Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Barry,It sounded like you were doing so well when you were increasing very slowly. When things start to go haywire for me, I go back to what worked. If that means creepingly slow increases that is what it means. Do you use the Salt Loading at all when you are in bad detox?From Page 6/7 of The Guide to Supplementing with Iodine by Buist What is the Salt Loading Protocol? Perform the salt loading protocol when you are experiencing detoxification symptoms with iodine supplementation. **Note that you should not need to do this for more than 3days. If you do then you need to reduce your dosing of iodine. 1/2 tsp celtic (or other unrefined) salt in 1/2 cup of warm waterFollow the above with a glass of 12 oz filtered water. ** Repeat every 30-45 minutes as needed until urination begins. Why does this help?Salt - containing chloride - binds to the bromide in the blood stream and carries it out through the kidneys. in Alaska On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:02 PM, viajero8 <viajero8@...> wrote: so, here is the latest on my iodine journey. so sensitive and sick, i had to start at 1/10th drop of lugols. worked my way up to 1 drop over the course of two and a half weeks. was really starting to feel much better, especially in the daytime. so much more energy, clearer thinking, mood so improved, less facial pain, etc. my basal temp in the mornings had gone from 96.8 to 97.5. amazing. i had never had a basal temp that high. over the course of the next week i tried to go to 1 and 1/2 drops and the bottom dropped out. i was feeling great this last sunday (day of the increase. i increased 1/4 drop on friday and 1/4 drop more on sunday). that night i did a coffee enema to help with the detox and wham, i felt like i was going to pass out. my head started swimming, felt really anxious, facial pain returned, very confused and miserable. lost all the progress i had made. horrible night trying to calm down and my sleep was not very good. the next morning my basal temp dropped back to 96.8 and has remained there since. began to feel a bit better over the course of the next day or so, but fatigue had set in, mood dropped, brain fog returned, terrible flatulance all the time. i cut back to 1 drop today and it helped. mood was better, felt happier, thinking clearer, etc. i have been taking all the companion nutrients religiously. (i only take 1/2 tsp celtic sea salt once a day in the a.m. wondering if i should increase that to two times a day.) i still feel much more miserable in the evenings. so, i guess i went too fast? a bit discouraged, but will never give up. so, thinking maybe i have to wait a week between increases and only increase i/8 or 1/4 drop at a time. any thoughts anyone? thanks for your input, barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 i forgot to do that. i will remember next time. thanks cynthia > > > ** > > > > > > so, here is the latest on my iodine journey. so sensitive and sick, i had > > to start at 1/10th drop of lugols. worked my way up to 1 drop over the > > course of two and a half weeks. was really starting to feel much better, > > especially in the daytime. so much more energy, clearer thinking, mood so > > improved, less facial pain, etc. my basal temp in the mornings had gone > > from 96.8 to 97.5. amazing. i had never had a basal temp that high. over > > the course of the next week i tried to go to 1 and 1/2 drops and the bottom > > dropped out. i was feeling great this last sunday (day of the increase. i > > increased 1/4 drop on friday and 1/4 drop more on sunday). that night i did > > a coffee enema to help with the detox and wham, i felt like i was going to > > pass out. my head started swimming, felt really anxious, facial pain > > returned, very confused and miserable. lost all the progress i had made. > > horrible night trying to calm down and my sleep was not very good. the next > > morning my basal temp dropped back to 96.8 and has remained there since. > > began to feel a bit better over the course of the next day or so, but > > fatigue had set in, mood dropped, brain fog returned, terrible flatulance > > all the time. i cut back to 1 drop today and it helped. mood was better, > > felt happier, thinking clearer, etc. i have been taking all the companion > > nutrients religiously. (i only take 1/2 tsp celtic sea salt once a day in > > the a.m. wondering if i should increase that to two times a day.) i still > > feel much more miserable in the evenings. so, i guess i went too fast? a > > bit discouraged, but will never give up. so, thinking maybe i have to wait > > a week between increases and only increase i/8 or 1/4 drop at a time. any > > thoughts anyone? thanks for your input, barry > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yes, your thinking is good on this, Barry-- wait at least a week between increases and only increase 1/8 or 1/4 drop at a time. Since you had to start so slowly, you will need to keep that slowness up as you move forward. -- moderator4 On 1 Mar 2012 at 1:02, viajero8 wrote: > so, here is the latest on my iodine journey. so sensitive and sick, i > had to start at 1/10th drop of lugols. worked my way up to 1 drop over > the course of two and a half weeks. was really starting to feel much > better, especially in the daytime. so much more energy, clearer > thinking, mood so improved, less facial pain, etc. my basal temp in > the mornings had gone from 96.8 to 97.5. amazing. i had never had a > basal temp that high. over the course of the next week i tried to go > to 1 and 1/2 drops and the bottom dropped out. i was feeling great > this last sunday (day of the increase. i increased 1/4 drop on friday > and 1/4 drop more on sunday). that night i did a coffee enema to help > with the detox and wham, i felt like i was going to pass out. my head > started swimming, felt really anxious, facial pain returned, very > confused and miserable. lost all the progress i had made. horrible > night trying to calm down and my sleep was not very good. the next > morning my basal temp dropped back to 96.8 and has remained there > since. began to feel a bit better over the course of the next day or > so, but fatigue had set in, mood dropped, brain fog returned, terrible > flatulance all the time. i cut back to 1 drop today and it helped. > mood was better, felt happier, thinking clearer, etc. i have been > taking all the companion nutrients religiously. (i only take 1/2 tsp > celtic sea salt once a day in the a.m. wondering if i should increase > that to two times a day.) i still feel much more miserable in the > evenings. so, i guess i went too fast? a bit discouraged, but will > never give up. so, thinking maybe i have to wait a week between > increases and only increase i/8 or 1/4 drop at a time. any thoughts > anyone? thanks for your input, barry > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > IodineOT/ > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Barry, Have you tried Bentonite clay? Linn Moderator > > so, here is the latest on my iodine journey. so sensitive and sick, i had to start at 1/10th drop of lugols. worked my way up to 1 drop over the course of two and a half weeks. was really starting to feel much better, especially in the daytime. so much more energy, clearer thinking, mood so improved, less facial pain, etc. my basal temp in the mornings had gone from 96.8 to 97.5. amazing. i had never had a basal temp that high. over the course of the next week i tried to go to 1 and 1/2 drops and the bottom dropped out. i was feeling great this last sunday (day of the increase. i increased 1/4 drop on friday and 1/4 drop more on sunday). that night i did a coffee enema to help with the detox and wham, i felt like i was going to pass out. my head started swimming, felt really anxious, facial pain returned, very confused and miserable. lost all the progress i had made. horrible night trying to calm down and my sleep was not very good. the next morning my basal temp dropped back to 96.8 and has remained there since. began to feel a bit better over the course of the next day or so, but fatigue had set in, mood dropped, brain fog returned, terrible flatulance all the time. i cut back to 1 drop today and it helped. mood was better, felt happier, thinking clearer, etc. i have been taking all the companion nutrients religiously. (i only take 1/2 tsp celtic sea salt once a day in the a.m. wondering if i should increase that to two times a day.) i still feel much more miserable in the evenings. so, i guess i went too fast? a bit discouraged, but will never give up. so, thinking maybe i have to wait a week between increases and only increase i/8 or 1/4 drop at a time. any thoughts anyone? thanks for your input, barry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Hi Barry,The ups and downs of true healing can be discouraging. You've done so good about taking things slow. Keep at it.Adrenals was what came to mind as I was reading your post even before you mentioned the cortisol. Are you able to do any adrenal support along side the iodine? It seems that working on things together is more profitable than individually. in AlaskaOn Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 2:59 PM, viajero8 <viajero8@...> wrote: i need a little help from the group to sort out what is going on here. any comments, experience, or suggestions are more than welcome. i began taking iodine feb. 2nd (was so sick, had to start out at a 1/10 drop of lugols). by the 15th of feb. i had gotten to 1/2 drop of lugols and was really beginning to feel good. my energy was up, my mood elevated, my brain fog clearing, my facial pain diminished, etc. by feb. 26th i had worked up to 1 and 1/2 drop of lugols and that evening crashed big time. i became disoriented, brain fog returned, felt anxious, fatigue, just miserable (i also did a coffee enema that night, but i'm not sure if that had anything to do with it). my basal temp in the mornings was also going up. by the time i reached 1 and 1/2 drops of lugols it had gone up from 96.8 to 97.4. however, the next morning, feb. 27th, the morning after the crash, it dropped back down to 96.8 i remained at a drop and a half for a few days more, but my basal temp remained low and i was not doing that well, so i dropped back to one drop. my basal temp started to rise again and reached 97.4, however, i crashed again one evening at one drop and my basal temp dropped once more to 96.5 the next morning. last night i felt miserable and when i tried to go to sleep at 10 pm (as i always do), i was so full of anxiety, tossing and turning, just manic. i have had that before and i recognized it as a sign of too high cortisol at bedtime (i could be wrong, but that is what it felt like). i know that if my cortisol level goes down in the am, the nighttime can go up. i am wondering if taking iodine is stressing my adrenals? i dropped back to 1/2 drop of lugols today and felt pretty decent throughout the day, but tonight i have stomach distress and my facial pain symptoms have increased. i was really starting to do well in the beginning and was feeling better every day until it all fell apart. i feel now that i must have gone too fast. i'm just not sure what to do anymore. i guess i'll try to just stay at 1/2 drop for a week or two unless anyone else has other suggestions. i take all the companion nutrients and do salt loading occasionally. i am so discouraged. i had felt so good and was so optimistic. what a terrible setback. how am i ever to get well? thanks, barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 initially, when i began trying to get well, i was following the protocols of the adrenal group. i never did well with the isocort, it would bring up pressure in my head, get me disoriented, and raise my blood pressure. i'm a bit afraid of playing around with my hormones, these days. my experiences with those have made me a bit hormonophobic. (did i just make up a new word? i have head about ashwaganda, but have never tried it. i also have heard and read that people have healed their adrenals with iodine, so i was hoping that would also be the case with me. i have a problem with being impatient sometimes and i think this may have been one of them. > > > ** > > > > > > i need a little help from the group to sort out what is going on here. any > > comments, experience, or suggestions are more than welcome. i began taking > > iodine feb. 2nd (was so sick, had to start out at a 1/10 drop of lugols). > > by the 15th of feb. i had gotten to 1/2 drop of lugols and was really > > beginning to feel good. my energy was up, my mood elevated, my brain fog > > clearing, my facial pain diminished, etc. by feb. 26th i had worked up to 1 > > and 1/2 drop of lugols and that evening crashed big time. i became > > disoriented, brain fog returned, felt anxious, fatigue, just miserable (i > > also did a coffee enema that night, but i'm not sure if that had anything > > to do with it). my basal temp in the mornings was also going up. by the > > time i reached 1 and 1/2 drops of lugols it had gone up from 96.8 to 97.4. > > however, the next morning, feb. 27th, the morning after the crash, it > > dropped back down to 96.8 i remained at a drop and a half for a few days > > more, but my basal temp remained low and i was not doing that well, so i > > dropped back to one drop. my basal temp started to rise again and reached > > 97.4, however, i crashed again one evening at one drop and my basal temp > > dropped once more to 96.5 the next morning. last night i felt miserable and > > when i tried to go to sleep at 10 pm (as i always do), i was so full of > > anxiety, tossing and turning, just manic. i have had that before and i > > recognized it as a sign of too high cortisol at bedtime (i could be wrong, > > but that is what it felt like). i know that if my cortisol level goes down > > in the am, the nighttime can go up. i am wondering if taking iodine is > > stressing my adrenals? i dropped back to 1/2 drop of lugols today and felt > > pretty decent throughout the day, but tonight i have stomach distress and > > my facial pain symptoms have increased. i was really starting to do well in > > the beginning and was feeling better every day until it all fell apart. i > > feel now that i must have gone too fast. i'm just not sure what to do > > anymore. i guess i'll try to just stay at 1/2 drop for a week or two unless > > anyone else has other suggestions. i take all the companion nutrients and > > do salt loading occasionally. i am so discouraged. i had felt so good and > > was so optimistic. what a terrible setback. how am i ever to get well? > > thanks, barry > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Hi Barry: A year ago, I was still having high Cortisol at night too and my doctor gave me Phosphatidylserine and I was able to fall asleep but this was only in the evening that the cortisol was a problem. If you’re not familiar with this supplement, Google it. Bonnie From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of viajero8 Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 7:56 PM iodine Subject: Re: barry update initially, when i began trying to get well, i was following the protocols of the adrenal group. i never did well with the isocort, it would bring up pressure in my head, get me disoriented, and raise my blood pressure. i'm a bit afraid of playing around with my hormones, these days. my experiences with those have made me a bit hormonophobic. (did i just make up a new word? i have head about ashwaganda, but have never tried it. i also have heard and read that people have healed their adrenals with iodine, so i was hoping that would also be the case with me. i have a problem with being impatient sometimes and i think this may have been one of them. > > > ** > > > > > > i need a little help from the group to sort out what is going on here. any > > comments, experience, or suggestions are more than welcome. i began taking > > iodine feb. 2nd (was so sick, had to start out at a 1/10 drop of lugols). > > by the 15th of feb. i had gotten to 1/2 drop of lugols and was really > > beginning to feel good. my energy was up, my mood elevated, my brain fog > > clearing, my facial pain diminished, etc. by feb. 26th i had worked up to 1 > > and 1/2 drop of lugols and that evening crashed big time. i became > > disoriented, brain fog returned, felt anxious, fatigue, just miserable (i > > also did a coffee enema that night, but i'm not sure if that had anything > > to do with it). my basal temp in the mornings was also going up. by the > > time i reached 1 and 1/2 drops of lugols it had gone up from 96.8 to 97.4. > > however, the next morning, feb. 27th, the morning after the crash, it > > dropped back down to 96.8 i remained at a drop and a half for a few days > > more, but my basal temp remained low and i was not doing that well, so i > > dropped back to one drop. my basal temp started to rise again and reached > > 97.4, however, i crashed again one evening at one drop and my basal temp > > dropped once more to 96.5 the next morning. last night i felt miserable and > > when i tried to go to sleep at 10 pm (as i always do), i was so full of > > anxiety, tossing and turning, just manic. i have had that before and i > > recognized it as a sign of too high cortisol at bedtime (i could be wrong, > > but that is what it felt like). i know that if my cortisol level goes down > > in the am, the nighttime can go up. i am wondering if taking iodine is > > stressing my adrenals? i dropped back to 1/2 drop of lugols today and felt > > pretty decent throughout the day, but tonight i have stomach distress and > > my facial pain symptoms have increased. i was really starting to do well in > > the beginning and was feeling better every day until it all fell apart. i > > feel now that i must have gone too fast. i'm just not sure what to do > > anymore. i guess i'll try to just stay at 1/2 drop for a week or two unless > > anyone else has other suggestions. i take all the companion nutrients and > > do salt loading occasionally. i am so discouraged. i had felt so good and > > was so optimistic. what a terrible setback. how am i ever to get well? > > thanks, barry > > > > > > > size=1 width="100%" noshade color="#aca899" align=center> No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4851 - Release Date: 03/04/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Bonnie,Did it make a difference what time of day your took it? I had heard you needed to take it at 1400 and 210. in Alaska On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote: Hi Barry: A year ago, I was still having high Cortisol at night too and my doctor gave me Phosphatidylserine and I was able to fall asleep but this was only in the evening that the cortisol was a problem. If you’re not familiar with this supplement, Google it. Bonnie From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of viajero8 Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 7:56 PM iodine Subject: Re: barry update initially, when i began trying to get well, i was following the protocols of the adrenal group. i never did well with the isocort, it would bring up pressure in my head, get me disoriented, and raise my blood pressure. i'm a bit afraid of playing around with my hormones, these days. my experiences with those have made me a bit hormonophobic. (did i just make up a new word? i have head about ashwaganda, but have never tried it. i also have heard and read that people have healed their adrenals with iodine, so i was hoping that would also be the case with me. i have a problem with being impatient sometimes and i think this may have been one of them. > > > ** > > > > > > i need a little help from the group to sort out what is going on here. any > > comments, experience, or suggestions are more than welcome. i began taking > > iodine feb. 2nd (was so sick, had to start out at a 1/10 drop of lugols). > > by the 15th of feb. i had gotten to 1/2 drop of lugols and was really > > beginning to feel good. my energy was up, my mood elevated, my brain fog > > clearing, my facial pain diminished, etc. by feb. 26th i had worked up to 1 > > and 1/2 drop of lugols and that evening crashed big time. i became > > disoriented, brain fog returned, felt anxious, fatigue, just miserable (i > > also did a coffee enema that night, but i'm not sure if that had anything > > to do with it). my basal temp in the mornings was also going up. by the > > time i reached 1 and 1/2 drops of lugols it had gone up from 96.8 to 97.4. > > however, the next morning, feb. 27th, the morning after the crash, it > > dropped back down to 96.8 i remained at a drop and a half for a few days > > more, but my basal temp remained low and i was not doing that well, so i > > dropped back to one drop. my basal temp started to rise again and reached > > 97.4, however, i crashed again one evening at one drop and my basal temp > > dropped once more to 96.5 the next morning. last night i felt miserable and > > when i tried to go to sleep at 10 pm (as i always do), i was so full of > > anxiety, tossing and turning, just manic. i have had that before and i > > recognized it as a sign of too high cortisol at bedtime (i could be wrong, > > but that is what it felt like). i know that if my cortisol level goes down > > in the am, the nighttime can go up. i am wondering if taking iodine is > > stressing my adrenals? i dropped back to 1/2 drop of lugols today and felt > > pretty decent throughout the day, but tonight i have stomach distress and > > my facial pain symptoms have increased. i was really starting to do well in > > the beginning and was feeling better every day until it all fell apart. i > > feel now that i must have gone too fast. i'm just not sure what to do > > anymore. i guess i'll try to just stay at 1/2 drop for a week or two unless > > anyone else has other suggestions. i take all the companion nutrients and > > do salt loading occasionally. i am so discouraged. i had felt so good and > > was so optimistic. what a terrible setback. how am i ever to get well? > > thanks, barry > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Barry-- Yes people are able to heal their adrenals with iodine but by also doing additional adrenal-support. Extra Vit C, extra salt, Vit E 1200IU mixed tocopherols are some things, plus adrenal glandulars or adrenal herbal support and there are other supplements to consider. You need deep support for the adrenals. You might need to just stay at the tiny dose of iodine and get some deep herbal adrenal support. What you are doing isn't working, and you need to change it. Also if your diet is poor, or you drink a lot of alcohol, that will continue to stress your adrenals and you won't be able to heal. You might want to consider getting some advice from an iodine-friendly ND to help you develop a useful program. -- moderator On 5 Mar 2012 at 0:56, viajero8 wrote: > initially, when i began trying to get well, i was following the > protocols of the adrenal group. i never did well with the isocort, it > would bring up pressure in my head, get me disoriented, and raise my > blood pressure. i'm a bit afraid of playing around with my hormones, > these days. my experiences with those have made me a bit > hormonophobic. (did i just make up a new word? i have head about > ashwaganda, but have never tried it. i also have heard and read that > people have healed their adrenals with iodine, so i was hoping that > would also be the case with me. i have a problem with being impatient > sometimes and i think this may have been one of them. > > > > > > ** > > > > > > i need a little help from the group to sort out > what is going on here. any > > comments, experience, or suggestions > are more than welcome. i began taking > > iodine feb. 2nd (was so > sick, had to start out at a 1/10 drop of lugols). > > by the 15th of > feb. i had gotten to 1/2 drop of lugols and was really > > beginning > to feel good. my energy was up, my mood elevated, my brain fog > > > clearing, my facial pain diminished, etc. by feb. 26th i had worked up > to 1 > > and 1/2 drop of lugols and that evening crashed big time. i > became > > disoriented, brain fog returned, felt anxious, fatigue, > just miserable (i > > also did a coffee enema that night, but i'm not > sure if that had anything > > to do with it). my basal temp in the > mornings was also going up. by the > > time i reached 1 and 1/2 drops > of lugols it had gone up from 96.8 to 97.4. > > however, the next > morning, feb. 27th, the morning after the crash, it > > dropped back > down to 96.8 i remained at a drop and a half for a few days > > more, > but my basal temp remained low and i was not doing that well, so i > > > dropped back to one drop. my basal temp started to rise again and > reached > > 97.4, however, i crashed again one evening at one drop and > my basal temp > > dropped once more to 96.5 the next morning. last > night i felt miserable and > > when i tried to go to sleep at 10 pm > (as i always do), i was so full of > > anxiety, tossing and turning, > just manic. i have had that before and i > > recognized it as a sign > of too high cortisol at bedtime (i could be wrong, > > but that is > what it felt like). i know that if my cortisol level goes down > > in > the am, the nighttime can go up. i am wondering if taking iodine is > > > stressing my adrenals? i dropped back to 1/2 drop of lugols today > and felt > > pretty decent throughout the day, but tonight i have > stomach distress and > > my facial pain symptoms have increased. i was > really starting to do well in > > the beginning and was feeling better > every day until it all fell apart. i > > feel now that i must have > gone too fast. i'm just not sure what to do > > anymore. i guess i'll > try to just stay at 1/2 drop for a week or two unless > > anyone else > has other suggestions. i take all the companion nutrients and > > do > salt loading occasionally. i am so discouraged. i had felt so good and > > > was so optimistic. what a terrible setback. how am i ever to get > well? > > thanks, barry > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > IodineOT/ > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 thanks victoria. i appreciate the suggestions. i do not drink alcohol and my diet is wonderful. i think it's the adrenal glandulars or adrenal herbal support that i need help with. how would one figure out what to take and how much to take? thanks, barry > > > > > ** > > > > > > i need a little help from the group to sort out > > what is going on here. any > > comments, experience, or suggestions > > are more than welcome. i began taking > > iodine feb. 2nd (was so > > sick, had to start out at a 1/10 drop of lugols). > > by the 15th of > > feb. i had gotten to 1/2 drop of lugols and was really > > beginning > > to feel good. my energy was up, my mood elevated, my brain fog > > > > clearing, my facial pain diminished, etc. by feb. 26th i had worked up > > to 1 > > and 1/2 drop of lugols and that evening crashed big time. i > > became > > disoriented, brain fog returned, felt anxious, fatigue, > > just miserable (i > > also did a coffee enema that night, but i'm not > > sure if that had anything > > to do with it). my basal temp in the > > mornings was also going up. by the > > time i reached 1 and 1/2 drops > > of lugols it had gone up from 96.8 to 97.4. > > however, the next > > morning, feb. 27th, the morning after the crash, it > > dropped back > > down to 96.8 i remained at a drop and a half for a few days > > more, > > but my basal temp remained low and i was not doing that well, so i > > > > dropped back to one drop. my basal temp started to rise again and > > reached > > 97.4, however, i crashed again one evening at one drop and > > my basal temp > > dropped once more to 96.5 the next morning. last > > night i felt miserable and > > when i tried to go to sleep at 10 pm > > (as i always do), i was so full of > > anxiety, tossing and turning, > > just manic. i have had that before and i > > recognized it as a sign > > of too high cortisol at bedtime (i could be wrong, > > but that is > > what it felt like). i know that if my cortisol level goes down > > in > > the am, the nighttime can go up. i am wondering if taking iodine is > > > > stressing my adrenals? i dropped back to 1/2 drop of lugols today > > and felt > > pretty decent throughout the day, but tonight i have > > stomach distress and > > my facial pain symptoms have increased. i was > > really starting to do well in > > the beginning and was feeling better > > every day until it all fell apart. i > > feel now that i must have > > gone too fast. i'm just not sure what to do > > anymore. i guess i'll > > try to just stay at 1/2 drop for a week or two unless > > anyone else > > has other suggestions. i take all the companion nutrients and > > do > > salt loading occasionally. i am so discouraged. i had felt so good and > > > > was so optimistic. what a terrible setback. how am i ever to get > > well? > > thanks, barry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 read this book and you will find the answer Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 1:23 PM, viajero8 <viajero8@...> wrote: thanks victoria. i appreciate the suggestions. i do not drink alcohol and my diet is wonderful. i think it's the adrenal glandulars or adrenal herbal support that i need help with. how would one figure out what to take and how much to take? thanks, barry > > > > > ** > > > > > > i need a little help from the group to sort out> > what is going on here. any > > comments, experience, or suggestions > > are more than welcome. i began taking > > iodine feb. 2nd (was so> > sick, had to start out at a 1/10 drop of lugols). > > by the 15th of> > feb. i had gotten to 1/2 drop of lugols and was really > > beginning > > to feel good. my energy was up, my mood elevated, my brain fog > >> > clearing, my facial pain diminished, etc. by feb. 26th i had worked up> > to 1 > > and 1/2 drop of lugols and that evening crashed big time. i > > became > > disoriented, brain fog returned, felt anxious, fatigue,> > just miserable (i > > also did a coffee enema that night, but i'm not> > sure if that had anything > > to do with it). my basal temp in the > > mornings was also going up. by the > > time i reached 1 and 1/2 drops> > of lugols it had gone up from 96.8 to 97.4. > > however, the next> > morning, feb. 27th, the morning after the crash, it > > dropped back > > down to 96.8 i remained at a drop and a half for a few days > > more,> > but my basal temp remained low and i was not doing that well, so i > >> > dropped back to one drop. my basal temp started to rise again and > > reached > > 97.4, however, i crashed again one evening at one drop and> > my basal temp > > dropped once more to 96.5 the next morning. last> > night i felt miserable and > > when i tried to go to sleep at 10 pm > > (as i always do), i was so full of > > anxiety, tossing and turning,> > just manic. i have had that before and i > > recognized it as a sign> > of too high cortisol at bedtime (i could be wrong, > > but that is > > what it felt like). i know that if my cortisol level goes down > > in> > the am, the nighttime can go up. i am wondering if taking iodine is >> > > stressing my adrenals? i dropped back to 1/2 drop of lugols today > > and felt > > pretty decent throughout the day, but tonight i have> > stomach distress and > > my facial pain symptoms have increased. i was> > really starting to do well in > > the beginning and was feeling better > > every day until it all fell apart. i > > feel now that i must have> > gone too fast. i'm just not sure what to do > > anymore. i guess i'll> > try to just stay at 1/2 drop for a week or two unless > > anyone else > > has other suggestions. i take all the companion nutrients and > > do> > salt loading occasionally. i am so discouraged. i had felt so good and> > > > was so optimistic. what a terrible setback. how am i ever to get > > well? > > thanks, barry > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list)> > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 I don't really know the answer to that, perhaps others have some feedback for you. -- moderator On 5 Mar 2012 at 12:23, viajero8 wrote: > thanks victoria. i appreciate the suggestions. i do not drink alcohol > and my diet is wonderful. i think it's the adrenal glandulars or > adrenal herbal support that i need help with. how would one figure out > what to take and how much to take? thanks, barry > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > i need a little help from the group to sort out > > what > is going on here. any > > comments, experience, or suggestions > > are > more than welcome. i began taking > > iodine feb. 2nd (was so > > > sick, had to start out at a 1/10 drop of lugols). > > by the 15th of > > > feb. i had gotten to 1/2 drop of lugols and was really > > beginning > > > to feel good. my energy was up, my mood elevated, my brain fog > > > > > clearing, my facial pain diminished, etc. by feb. 26th i had > worked up > > to 1 > > and 1/2 drop of lugols and that evening crashed > big time. i > > became > > disoriented, brain fog returned, felt > anxious, fatigue, > > just miserable (i > > also did a coffee enema > that night, but i'm not > > sure if that had anything > > to do with > it). my basal temp in the > > mornings was also going up. by the > > > time i reached 1 and 1/2 drops > > of lugols it had gone up from 96.8 > to 97.4. > > however, the next > > morning, feb. 27th, the morning > after the crash, it > > dropped back > > down to 96.8 i remained at a > drop and a half for a few days > > more, > > but my basal temp > remained low and i was not doing that well, so i > > > > dropped back > to one drop. my basal temp started to rise again and > > reached > > > 97.4, however, i crashed again one evening at one drop and > > my > basal temp > > dropped once more to 96.5 the next morning. last > > > night i felt miserable and > > when i tried to go to sleep at 10 pm > > > (as i always do), i was so full of > > anxiety, tossing and turning, > > > just manic. i have had that before and i > > recognized it as a > sign > > of too high cortisol at bedtime (i could be wrong, > > but > that is > > what it felt like). i know that if my cortisol level goes > down > > in > > the am, the nighttime can go up. i am wondering if > taking iodine is > > > > stressing my adrenals? i dropped back to 1/2 > drop of lugols today > > and felt > > pretty decent throughout the > day, but tonight i have > > stomach distress and > > my facial pain > symptoms have increased. i was > > really starting to do well in > > > the beginning and was feeling better > > every day until it all fell > apart. i > > feel now that i must have > > gone too fast. i'm just not > sure what to do > > anymore. i guess i'll > > try to just stay at 1/2 > drop for a week or two unless > > anyone else > > has other > suggestions. i take all the companion nutrients and > > do > > salt > loading occasionally. i am so discouraged. i had felt so good and > > > > > was so optimistic. what a terrible setback. how am i ever to get > > > well? > > thanks, barry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Owner: Buist, > ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, > Linn > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > group > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Barry, How are you addressing detoxing? What type of diet? Linn Moderator > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > i need a little help from the group to sort out > > what > > is going on here. any > > comments, experience, or suggestions > > are > > more than welcome. i began taking > > iodine feb. 2nd (was so > > > > sick, had to start out at a 1/10 drop of lugols). > > by the 15th of > > > > feb. i had gotten to 1/2 drop of lugols and was really > > beginning > > > > to feel good. my energy was up, my mood elevated, my brain fog > > > > > > clearing, my facial pain diminished, etc. by feb. 26th i had > > worked up > > to 1 > > and 1/2 drop of lugols and that evening crashed > > big time. i > > became > > disoriented, brain fog returned, felt > > anxious, fatigue, > > just miserable (i > > also did a coffee enema > > that night, but i'm not > > sure if that had anything > > to do with > > it). my basal temp in the > > mornings was also going up. by the > > > > time i reached 1 and 1/2 drops > > of lugols it had gone up from 96.8 > > to 97.4. > > however, the next > > morning, feb. 27th, the morning > > after the crash, it > > dropped back > > down to 96.8 i remained at a > > drop and a half for a few days > > more, > > but my basal temp > > remained low and i was not doing that well, so i > > > > dropped back > > to one drop. my basal temp started to rise again and > > reached > > > > 97.4, however, i crashed again one evening at one drop and > > my > > basal temp > > dropped once more to 96.5 the next morning. last > > > > night i felt miserable and > > when i tried to go to sleep at 10 pm > > > > (as i always do), i was so full of > > anxiety, tossing and turning, > > > > just manic. i have had that before and i > > recognized it as a > > sign > > of too high cortisol at bedtime (i could be wrong, > > but > > that is > > what it felt like). i know that if my cortisol level goes > > down > > in > > the am, the nighttime can go up. i am wondering if > > taking iodine is > > > > stressing my adrenals? i dropped back to 1/2 > > drop of lugols today > > and felt > > pretty decent throughout the > > day, but tonight i have > > stomach distress and > > my facial pain > > symptoms have increased. i was > > really starting to do well in > > > > the beginning and was feeling better > > every day until it all fell > > apart. i > > feel now that i must have > > gone too fast. i'm just not > > sure what to do > > anymore. i guess i'll > > try to just stay at 1/2 > > drop for a week or two unless > > anyone else > > has other > > suggestions. i take all the companion nutrients and > > do > > salt > > loading occasionally. i am so discouraged. i had felt so good and > > > > > > was so optimistic. what a terrible setback. how am i ever to get > > > > well? > > thanks, barry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Owner: Buist, > > ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, > > Linn > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > > group > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Linn, the only thing i knew to do was the salt loading. was there something more i should have been doing? i take all the companion nutrients and drink plenty of water. I eat really well. Mostly organic produce, i juice when i can, eat fish, chicken, and beef (no steroids or antibiotics, grass fed beef). i take no medications and do not drink. i am back to one half drop of lugols and doing pretty well today. when i ramped up to a drop and a half all heck broke lose. i bought some ashwaghanda today and will try taking that to support my adrenals. i was told to start out at one capsule a day in the am, see how i do, and then increase to one in amm and on at noon. does that sound right? my new plan is to increase 1/4 drop every week or every two weeks. have not decided yet, unless someone knows of something better to do. thanks, barry > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > i need a little help from the group to sort out > > what > > > is going on here. any > > comments, experience, or suggestions > > are > > > more than welcome. i began taking > > iodine feb. 2nd (was so > > > > > sick, had to start out at a 1/10 drop of lugols). > > by the 15th of > > > > > feb. i had gotten to 1/2 drop of lugols and was really > > beginning > > > > > to feel good. my energy was up, my mood elevated, my brain fog > > > > > > > clearing, my facial pain diminished, etc. by feb. 26th i had > > > worked up > > to 1 > > and 1/2 drop of lugols and that evening crashed > > > big time. i > > became > > disoriented, brain fog returned, felt > > > anxious, fatigue, > > just miserable (i > > also did a coffee enema > > > that night, but i'm not > > sure if that had anything > > to do with > > > it). my basal temp in the > > mornings was also going up. by the > > > > > time i reached 1 and 1/2 drops > > of lugols it had gone up from 96.8 > > > to 97.4. > > however, the next > > morning, feb. 27th, the morning > > > after the crash, it > > dropped back > > down to 96.8 i remained at a > > > drop and a half for a few days > > more, > > but my basal temp > > > remained low and i was not doing that well, so i > > > > dropped back > > > to one drop. my basal temp started to rise again and > > reached > > > > > 97.4, however, i crashed again one evening at one drop and > > my > > > basal temp > > dropped once more to 96.5 the next morning. last > > > > > night i felt miserable and > > when i tried to go to sleep at 10 pm > > > > > (as i always do), i was so full of > > anxiety, tossing and turning, > > > > > just manic. i have had that before and i > > recognized it as a > > > sign > > of too high cortisol at bedtime (i could be wrong, > > but > > > that is > > what it felt like). i know that if my cortisol level goes > > > down > > in > > the am, the nighttime can go up. i am wondering if > > > taking iodine is > > > > stressing my adrenals? i dropped back to 1/2 > > > drop of lugols today > > and felt > > pretty decent throughout the > > > day, but tonight i have > > stomach distress and > > my facial pain > > > symptoms have increased. i was > > really starting to do well in > > > > > the beginning and was feeling better > > every day until it all fell > > > apart. i > > feel now that i must have > > gone too fast. i'm just not > > > sure what to do > > anymore. i guess i'll > > try to just stay at 1/2 > > > drop for a week or two unless > > anyone else > > has other > > > suggestions. i take all the companion nutrients and > > do > > salt > > > loading occasionally. i am so discouraged. i had felt so good and > > > > > > > was so optimistic. what a terrible setback. how am i ever to get > > > > > well? > > thanks, barry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Owner: Buist, > > > ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, > > > Linn > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > > > group > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Ashwagandha is good. I would add in some kind of liver support also. TLC or Metagenics or maybe Livatone Plus, but with each of those I would suggest starting out at 1/4 of the recommended dose to see how you respond. Detoxing too hard can make you feel bad. One other question, do you have any mercury fillings? Linn Moderator > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > i need a little help from the group to sort out > > what > > > > is going on here. any > > comments, experience, or suggestions > > are > > > > more than welcome. i began taking > > iodine feb. 2nd (was so > > > > > > sick, had to start out at a 1/10 drop of lugols). > > by the 15th of > > > > > > feb. i had gotten to 1/2 drop of lugols and was really > > beginning > > > > > > to feel good. my energy was up, my mood elevated, my brain fog > > > > > > > > clearing, my facial pain diminished, etc. by feb. 26th i had > > > > worked up > > to 1 > > and 1/2 drop of lugols and that evening crashed > > > > big time. i > > became > > disoriented, brain fog returned, felt > > > > anxious, fatigue, > > just miserable (i > > also did a coffee enema > > > > that night, but i'm not > > sure if that had anything > > to do with > > > > it). my basal temp in the > > mornings was also going up. by the > > > > > > time i reached 1 and 1/2 drops > > of lugols it had gone up from 96.8 > > > > to 97.4. > > however, the next > > morning, feb. 27th, the morning > > > > after the crash, it > > dropped back > > down to 96.8 i remained at a > > > > drop and a half for a few days > > more, > > but my basal temp > > > > remained low and i was not doing that well, so i > > > > dropped back > > > > to one drop. my basal temp started to rise again and > > reached > > > > > > 97.4, however, i crashed again one evening at one drop and > > my > > > > basal temp > > dropped once more to 96.5 the next morning. last > > > > > > night i felt miserable and > > when i tried to go to sleep at 10 pm > > > > > > (as i always do), i was so full of > > anxiety, tossing and turning, > > > > > > just manic. i have had that before and i > > recognized it as a > > > > sign > > of too high cortisol at bedtime (i could be wrong, > > but > > > > that is > > what it felt like). i know that if my cortisol level goes > > > > down > > in > > the am, the nighttime can go up. i am wondering if > > > > taking iodine is > > > > stressing my adrenals? i dropped back to 1/2 > > > > drop of lugols today > > and felt > > pretty decent throughout the > > > > day, but tonight i have > > stomach distress and > > my facial pain > > > > symptoms have increased. i was > > really starting to do well in > > > > > > the beginning and was feeling better > > every day until it all fell > > > > apart. i > > feel now that i must have > > gone too fast. i'm just not > > > > sure what to do > > anymore. i guess i'll > > try to just stay at 1/2 > > > > drop for a week or two unless > > anyone else > > has other > > > > suggestions. i take all the companion nutrients and > > do > > salt > > > > loading occasionally. i am so discouraged. i had felt so good and > > > > > > > > was so optimistic. what a terrible setback. how am i ever to get > > > > > > well? > > thanks, barry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Owner: Buist, > > > > ND HC > > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, > > > > Linn > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > > > > group > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Hi Barry, I would suggest Biotics Cytozyme AD. Dr. Steph used it and it helped her. I used other things, about 5, and only Dr. 's Adrenal Rebuilder helped, but it stopped working. It stopped raising my temp after two months. With Biotics, it is still going up. Hope that helps!Glowing,grace~"It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before morning."- Henry Ford "When the government gets involved in the private sector and picks out winners and losers, it screws up the whole market," "The freedom and happiness of man...[are] the sole objects of all legitimate government." -- Jefferson Re: barry update Posted by: "viajero8" viajero8@... viajero8 Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:23 am (PST) thanks victoria. i appreciate the suggestions. i do not drink alcohol and my diet is wonderful. i think it's the adrenal glandulars or adrenal herbal support that i need help with. how would one figure out what to take and how much to take? thanks, barry> > > > > ** > > > > > > i need a little help from the group to sort out> > what is going on here. any > > comments, experience, or suggestions> > are more than welcome. i began taking > > iodine feb. 2nd (was so> > sick, had to start out at a 1/10 drop of lugols). > > by the 15th of> > feb. i had gotten to 1/2 drop of lugols and was really > > beginning> > to feel good. my energy was up, my mood elevated, my brain fog > >> > clearing, my facial pain diminished, etc. by feb. 26th i had worked up> > to 1 > > and 1/2 drop of lugols and that evening crashed big time. i> > became > > disoriented, brain fog returned, felt anxious, fatigue,> > just miserable (i > > also did a coffee enema that night, but i'm not> > sure if that had anything > > to do with it). my basal temp in the> > mornings was also going up. by the > > time i reached 1 and 1/2 drops> > of lugols it had gone up from 96.8 to 97.4. > > however, the next> > morning, feb. 27th, the morning after the crash, it > > dropped back> > down to 96.8 i remained at a drop and a half for a few days > > more,> > but my basal temp remained low and i was not doing that well, so i > >> > dropped back to one drop. my basal temp started to rise again and> > reached > > 97.4, however, i crashed again one evening at one drop and> > my basal temp > > dropped once more to 96.5 the next morning. last> > night i felt miserable and > > when i tried to go to sleep at 10 pm> > (as i always do), i was so full of > > anxiety, tossing and turning,> > just manic. i have had that before and i > > recognized it as a sign> > of too high cortisol at bedtime (i could be wrong, > > but that is> > what it felt like). i know that if my cortisol level goes down > > in> > the am, the nighttime can go up. i am wondering if taking iodine is >> > > stressing my adrenals? i dropped back to 1/2 drop of lugols today> > and felt > > pretty decent throughout the day, but tonight i have> > stomach distress and > > my facial pain symptoms have increased. i was> > really starting to do well in > > the beginning and was feeling better> > every day until it all fell apart. i > > feel now that i must have> > gone too fast. i'm just not sure what to do > > anymore. i guess i'll> > try to just stay at 1/2 drop for a week or two unless > > anyone else> > has other suggestions. i take all the companion nutrients and > > do> > salt loading occasionally. i am so discouraged. i had felt so good and> > > > was so optimistic. what a terrible setback. how am i ever to get> > well? > > thanks, barry > > > > > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Low-carb diets can cause adrenal issues for some. Many people are finding that when the first switch to a low-carb diet they feel good, but months or years down the road, they start getting symptoms of low adrenal function. Are you getting moderate healthy carbs with each meal? I find that I need adequate protein AND carbohydrates to function on a daily basis. The absence of either has disastrous consequences. ShaunaOn Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 4:53 PM, viajero8 <viajero8@...> wrote: Linn, the only thing i knew to do was the salt loading. was there something more i should have been doing? i take all the companion nutrients and drink plenty of water. I eat really well. Mostly organic produce, i juice when i can, eat fish, chicken, and beef (no steroids or antibiotics, grass fed beef). i take no medications and do not drink. i am back to one half drop of lugols and doing pretty well today. when i ramped up to a drop and a half all heck broke lose. i bought some ashwaghanda today and will try taking that to support my adrenals. i was told to start out at one capsule a day in the am, see how i do, and then increase to one in amm and on at noon. does that sound right? my new plan is to increase 1/4 drop every week or every two weeks. have not decided yet, unless someone knows of something better to do. thanks, barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 How would I obtain Biotics Cytozyme and what does it contain? I have just received an order of a stress and energy support supplement, but may need more help than it can give. Re: barry update Hi Barry, I would suggest Biotics Cytozyme AD. Dr. Steph used it and it helped her. I used other things, about 5, and only Dr. 's Adrenal Rebuilder helped, but it stopped working. It stopped raising my temp after two months. With Biotics, it is still going up. Hope that helps!Glowing,grace~"It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before morning."- Henry Ford "When the government gets involved in the private sector and picks out winners and losers, it screws up the whole market," "The freedom and happiness of man...[are] the sole objects of all legitimate government." -- Jefferson Re: barry update Posted by: "viajero8" viajero8@... viajero8 Mon Mar 5, 2012 4:23 am (PST) thanks victoria. i appreciate the suggestions. i do not drink alcohol and my diet is wonderful. i think it's the adrenal glandulars or adrenal herbal support that i need help with. how would one figure out what to take and how much to take? thanks, barry> > > > > ** > > > > > > i need a little help from the group to sort out> > what is going on here. any > > comments, experience, or suggestions> > are more than welcome. i began taking > > iodine feb. 2nd (was so> > sick, had to start out at a 1/10 drop of lugols). > > by the 15th of> > feb. i had gotten to 1/2 drop of lugols and was really > > beginning> > to feel good. my energy was up, my mood elevated, my brain fog > >> > clearing, my facial pain diminished, etc. by feb. 26th i had worked up> > to 1 > > and 1/2 drop of lugols and that evening crashed big time. i> > became > > disoriented, brain fog returned, felt anxious, fatigue,> > just miserable (i > > also did a coffee enema that night, but i'm not> > sure if that had anything > > to do with it). my basal temp in the> > mornings was also going up. by the > > time i reached 1 and 1/2 drops> > of lugols it had gone up from 96.8 to 97.4. > > however, the next> > morning, feb. 27th, the morning after the crash, it > > dropped back> > down to 96.8 i remained at a drop and a half for a few days > > more,> > but my basal temp remained low and i was not doing that well, so i > >> > dropped back to one drop. my basal temp started to rise again and> > reached > > 97.4, however, i crashed again one evening at one drop and> > my basal temp > > dropped once more to 96.5 the next morning. last> > night i felt miserable and > > when i tried to go to sleep at 10 pm> > (as i always do), i was so full of > > anxiety, tossing and turning,> > just manic. i have had that before and i > > recognized it as a sign> > of too high cortisol at bedtime (i could be wrong, > > but that is> > what it felt like). i know that if my cortisol level goes down > > in> > the am, the nighttime can go up. i am wondering if taking iodine is >> > > stressing my adrenals? i dropped back to 1/2 drop of lugols today> > and felt > > pretty decent throughout the day, but tonight i have> > stomach distress and > > my facial pain symptoms have increased. i was> > really starting to do well in > > the beginning and was feeling better> > every day until it all fell apart. i > > feel now that i must have> > gone too fast. i'm just not sure what to do > > anymore. i guess i'll> > try to just stay at 1/2 drop for a week or two unless > > anyone else> > has other suggestions. i take all the companion nutrients and > > do> > salt loading occasionally. i am so discouraged. i had felt so good and> > > > was so optimistic. what a terrible setback. how am i ever to get> > well? > > thanks, barry > > > > > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Shauna, wow, i had never heard that before. that is really interesting. can you give me a list of carbohydrates that i should consider including? barry > > > ** > > > > > > Linn, the only thing i knew to do was the salt loading. was there > > something more i should have been doing? i take all the companion nutrients > > and drink plenty of water. I eat really well. Mostly organic produce, i > > juice when i can, eat fish, chicken, and beef (no steroids or antibiotics, > > grass fed beef). i take no medications and do not drink. i am back to one > > half drop of lugols and doing pretty well today. when i ramped up to a drop > > and a half all heck broke lose. i bought some ashwaghanda today and will > > try taking that to support my adrenals. i was told to start out at one > > capsule a day in the am, see how i do, and then increase to one in amm and > > on at noon. does that sound right? my new plan is to increase 1/4 drop > > every week or every two weeks. have not decided yet, unless someone knows > > of something better to do. thanks, barry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Hi, I am sorry to interject, but I am also curious about this as I am on a very low carb diet. I am doing GAPs. (Has anyone heard of this and have any experience with it good or bad??) I am just starting out on the iodine protocol. My husband has started, but I am still working on it... responded poorly to the first trial dose and quit to regroup! (I am also exclusively nursing, so...) Anyway, I am curious too about good carbs to include... I just do veggies and some fruits (they don't sit to well with me), but no grains.... I suspect I have adrenal issues, but am so new to this, don't really know anything for sure yet... don't want to make things harder with a diet that is damaging. Want to learn more! Michele > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Linn, the only thing i knew to do was the salt loading. was there > > > something more i should have been doing? i take all the companion nutrients > > > and drink plenty of water. I eat really well. Mostly organic produce, i > > > juice when i can, eat fish, chicken, and beef (no steroids or antibiotics, > > > grass fed beef). i take no medications and do not drink. i am back to one > > > half drop of lugols and doing pretty well today. when i ramped up to a drop > > > and a half all heck broke lose. i bought some ashwaghanda today and will > > > try taking that to support my adrenals. i was told to start out at one > > > capsule a day in the am, see how i do, and then increase to one in amm and > > > on at noon. does that sound right? my new plan is to increase 1/4 drop > > > every week or every two weeks. have not decided yet, unless someone knows > > > of something better to do. thanks, barry > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Michele,GAPS can be very helpful for rebuilding the gut which is essential to good health.My guess is that the low carb issue is when you restrict them for too long. Hopefully someone else will be able to give you further information. in AlaskaOn Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:25 PM, mrpeniston <bpeniston@...> wrote: Hi, I am sorry to interject, but I am also curious about this as I am on a very low carb diet. I am doing GAPs. (Has anyone heard of this and have any experience with it good or bad??) I am just starting out on the iodine protocol. My husband has started, but I am still working on it... responded poorly to the first trial dose and quit to regroup! (I am also exclusively nursing, so...) Anyway, I am curious too about good carbs to include... I just do veggies and some fruits (they don't sit to well with me), but no grains.... I suspect I have adrenal issues, but am so new to this, don't really know anything for sure yet... don't want to make things harder with a diet that is damaging. Want to learn more! Michele > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Linn, the only thing i knew to do was the salt loading. was there > > > something more i should have been doing? i take all the companion nutrients > > > and drink plenty of water. I eat really well. Mostly organic produce, i > > > juice when i can, eat fish, chicken, and beef (no steroids or antibiotics, > > > grass fed beef). i take no medications and do not drink. i am back to one > > > half drop of lugols and doing pretty well today. when i ramped up to a drop > > > and a half all heck broke lose. i bought some ashwaghanda today and will > > > try taking that to support my adrenals. i was told to start out at one > > > capsule a day in the am, see how i do, and then increase to one in amm and > > > on at noon. does that sound right? my new plan is to increase 1/4 drop > > > every week or every two weeks. have not decided yet, unless someone knows > > > of something better to do. thanks, barry > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Michele, Did you try starting iodine with just a single drop or less of Lugol's? Your child will definitely benefit, but you wouldn't want to take more than 12.5mg/day until after weaning. -- moderator On 5 Mar 2012 at 18:00, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > Michele, > > GAPS can be very helpful for rebuilding the gut which is essential to > good health. > > My guess is that the low carb issue is when you restrict them for too > long. Hopefully someone else will be able to give you further > information. > > in Alaska > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:25 PM, mrpeniston <bpeniston@... > > wrote: > > Hi, I am sorry to interject, but I am also curious about this as I am > on a very low carb diet. I am doing GAPs. (Has anyone heard of this > and have any experience with it good or bad??) I am just starting out > on the iodine protocol. My husband has started, but I am still working > on it... responded poorly to the first trial dose and quit to regroup! > (I am also exclusively nursing, so...) Anyway, I am curious too about > good carbs to include... I just do veggies and some fruits (they don't > sit to well with me), but no grains.... I suspect I have adrenal > issues, but am so new to this, don't really know anything for sure > yet... don't want to make things harder with a diet that is damaging. > Want to learn more! Michele > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > Linn, the only thing i knew to do was the salt loading. was > > > > there something more i should have been doing? i take all the > > > > companion nutrients and drink plenty of water. I eat really > > > > well. Mostly organic produce, i juice when i can, eat fish, > > > > chicken, and beef (no steroids or antibiotics, grass fed beef). > > > > i take no medications and do not drink. i am back to one half > > > > drop of lugols and doing pretty well today. when i ramped up to > > > > a drop and a half all heck broke lose. i bought some ashwaghanda > > > > today and will try taking that to support my adrenals. i was > > > > told to start out at one capsule a day in the am, see how i do, > > > > and then increase to one in amm and on at noon. does that sound > > > > right? my new plan is to increase 1/4 drop every week or every > > > > two weeks. have not decided yet, unless someone knows of > > > > something better to do. thanks, barry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 I think people need to be specific about what they by by 'low carb' and 'very low carb " . I had a quick look at the GAPS diet and it looks pretty good to me. It doesn't have to be that low carb if you follow the approved eating list. Fruit and veg have lots of carbs and fibre. You don't need to get them from grains, which many people struggle with. I agree that very low carb (i.e. below 50mg a day) is not good long term, but 100mg (still low carb for many) provides plenty of carbs for the body's needs. In the Standard American Diet (SAD) many people eat 300g or more which can lead to insulin resistance and diabetes. An eating plan that looks moderate to me is " The Perfect Health Diet " by Jaminet. He has a very informative website. Google his name and see what you get. I hope that helps. Jo > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > Linn, the only thing i knew to do was the salt loading. was there > > > > something more i should have been doing? i take all the companion nutrients > > > > and drink plenty of water. I eat really well. Mostly organic produce, i > > > > juice when i can, eat fish, chicken, and beef (no steroids or antibiotics, > > > > grass fed beef). i take no medications and do not drink. i am back to one > > > > half drop of lugols and doing pretty well today. when i ramped up to a drop > > > > and a half all heck broke lose. i bought some ashwaghanda today and will > > > > try taking that to support my adrenals. i was told to start out at one > > > > capsule a day in the am, see how i do, and then increase to one in amm and > > > > on at noon. does that sound right? my new plan is to increase 1/4 drop > > > > every week or every two weeks. have not decided yet, unless someone knows > > > > of something better to do. thanks, barry > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Barry, I'm not Shauna, but here is an interesting blog post about adding carbs (note: she uses sprouted flour or prepared grains, not just white flour products or waffles from the freezer aisle): http://www.cheeseslave.com/how-i-raised-my-body-temperature-with-carbs/ If I remember right she just started magnesium and will also be starting iodine (not sure) Beth ______________ Shauna, wow, i had never heard that before. that is really interesting. can you give me a list of carbohydrates that i should consider including? barry>> Low-carb diets can cause adrenal issues for some. Many people are finding> that when the first switch to a low-carb diet they feel good, but months or> years down the road, they start getting symptoms of low adrenal function.> Are you getting moderate healthy carbs with each meal? I find that I need> adequate protein AND carbohydrates to function on a daily basis. The> absence of either has disastrous consequences.> > Shauna> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Michele, I am into my 4th week of Specific Carbs Diet (similar to GAPS). I've been taking iodine for over a year. I can never tell the difference between feeling bad because of adrenal fatigue or because of too much detoxing or something else. I'm resigned to stabbing in the dark, being altogether too right-brained to analyze these chemistry problems! But anyway, back to carbs: we're eating carbs, right? Unless GAPS is way different from SCD, it isn't cutting out carbs -- only the ones that are di- or polysaccarides. Even before going totally grain-free & sugar-free, I have been a low-carb eater for a few years. I do suspect that my adrenals are better; I used to have this strange & terrible reaction to caffeine even in green tea, and now I can have three cups a day with pleasure. I am in awe of those who can tell what their bodies are responding to & why -- I can't ever tell what's up. BUT I suspect that my adrenals were fatigued before -- leading to the deathly caffeine response. I like to think it's because of the iodine. McGuirk > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > Linn, the only thing i knew to do was the salt loading. was there > > > > something more i should have been doing? i take all the companion nutrients > > > > and drink plenty of water. I eat really well. Mostly organic produce, i > > > > juice when i can, eat fish, chicken, and beef (no steroids or antibiotics, > > > > grass fed beef). i take no medications and do not drink. i am back to one > > > > half drop of lugols and doing pretty well today. when i ramped up to a drop > > > > and a half all heck broke lose. i bought some ashwaghanda today and will > > > > try taking that to support my adrenals. i was told to start out at one > > > > capsule a day in the am, see how i do, and then increase to one in amm and > > > > on at noon. does that sound right? my new plan is to increase 1/4 drop > > > > every week or every two weeks. have not decided yet, unless someone knows > > > > of something better to do. thanks, barry > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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