Re: How long does iodine generally stay in the body?

[Guest guest]

Lori,

were you taking the required supplements with your iodine?

• Selenium (200mcg) or Brazil Nut

• 400 mg magnesium glycinate (or citrate) (not magnesium oxide )

• Vitamin C - 3,000 mg

• vitamins – 100mg B2, 500mg B3 (niacin NOT niacinamide)

• Unrefined Celtic Sea Salt ½ tsp (NOT table salt !)

• Ref) http://breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html

•

http://home.comcast.net/~jocy1/junk/The%20Guide%20to%20Supplementing%20with%20Io\

dine.pdf

Also, 4 drops of 2% is about 10mg. Why did you start at such a high dosage? I

think it is advisable to start with 1 drop and sloowly titrate up, then

pulse-dose or titrate down if detox symptoms appear. How many days after you

started iodine did your swelling begin?

At this point, I don't have any advice, maybe someone else can offer some ideas.

Are you allergic to iodine? Try doing a skin patch test to see if you get a skin

reaction.

Grizz

>

> I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was suffering severe detox

symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per day for about two months) and

swelling/weight gain (all in my upper body and stomach, that's it). I gained 16

pounds in two months, and in the two months following NOT taking a drop of

iodine, I have yet to lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the

worst swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever had.

>

> I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for over two hours

a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this much weight in just my upper body

(breasts and stomach) and not be able to lose it, is incredibly distressing.

I've been concentrating on just healing my liver by taking magnesium, vit c,

apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly all sugar from my diet

and have been generally eating very lightly throughout the day. Any attempts at

a stronger liver detox have given me horrendous headaches and major swelling, so

a mild and slow liver healing is all I can handle at the moment.

>

> How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now

still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there anything I

can do to help this?

>

> After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with the

lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine

for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all

while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways

are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).

>

> Thanks,

> Lori

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lori

I can't answer your iodine question but I just wanted to comment on your

exercise. Most trainers would advice at least one day of rest between exercise

routines. Most of the benefit actually appears on the days off. Sounds to me

like you have inflammation from the stress you are putting your body under. If

you are also reducing your food intake the situation is worse. Google 'cardio

makes you fat' for details. There are some recent studies showing the downsides

of exercise. I would have a week off to recover (eat plenty of nutritious food)

and work with your trainer to design a more moderate programme. Even pro

athletes have a day off!!

Best wishes

Jo

>

> I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was suffering severe detox

symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per day for about two months) and

swelling/weight gain (all in my upper body and stomach, that's it). I gained 16

pounds in two months, and in the two months following NOT taking a drop of

iodine, I have yet to lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the

worst swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever had.

>

> I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for over two hours

a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this much weight in just my upper body

(breasts and stomach) and not be able to lose it, is incredibly distressing.

I've been concentrating on just healing my liver by taking magnesium, vit c,

apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly all sugar from my diet

and have been generally eating very lightly throughout the day. Any attempts at

a stronger liver detox have given me horrendous headaches and major swelling, so

a mild and slow liver healing is all I can handle at the moment.

>

> How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now

still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there anything I

can do to help this?

>

> After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with the

lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine

for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all

while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways

are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).

>

> Thanks,

> Lori

>

[Guest guest]

Can I just ask, why not magensium Oxide? I was told thats the best magensium and

I now use magensium oxide oil, from ancient minerals?

> >

> > I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was suffering severe

detox symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per day for about two months)

and swelling/weight gain (all in my upper body and stomach, that's it). I gained

16 pounds in two months, and in the two months following NOT taking a drop of

iodine, I have yet to lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the

worst swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever had.

> >

> > I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for over two

hours a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this much weight in just my

upper body (breasts and stomach) and not be able to lose it, is incredibly

distressing. I've been concentrating on just healing my liver by taking

magnesium, vit c, apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly all

sugar from my diet and have been generally eating very lightly throughout the

day. Any attempts at a stronger liver detox have given me horrendous headaches

and major swelling, so a mild and slow liver healing is all I can handle at the

moment.

> >

> > How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now

still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there anything I

can do to help this?

> >

> > After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with the

lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine

for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all

while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways

are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Lori

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I certainly hope that Niacinamide is OK as I have 250 x 500mg tablets here!

Re: How long does iodine generally stay in the body?

Lori,were you taking the required supplements with your iodine?• Selenium (200mcg) or Brazil Nut• 400 mg magnesium glycinate (or citrate) (not magnesium oxide )• Vitamin C - 3,000 mg • vitamins – 100mg B2, 500mg B3 (niacin NOT niacinamide)• Unrefined Celtic Sea Salt ½ tsp (NOT table salt !)• Ref) http://breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html• http://home.comcast.net/~jocy1/junk/The%20Guide%20to%20Supplementing%20with%20Iodine.pdfAlso, 4 drops of 2% is about 10mg. Why did you start at such a high dosage? I think it is advisable to start with 1 drop and sloowly titrate up, then pulse-dose or titrate down if detox symptoms appear. How many days after you started iodine did your swelling begin? At this point, I don't have any advice, maybe someone else can offer some ideas. Are you allergic to iodine? Try doing a skin patch test to see if you get a skin reaction. Grizz >> I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was suffering severe detox symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per day for about two months) and swelling/weight gain (all in my upper body and stomach, that's it). I gained 16 pounds in two months, and in the two months following NOT taking a drop of iodine, I have yet to lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the worst swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever had.> > I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for over two hours a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this much weight in just my upper body (breasts and stomach) and not be able to lose it, is incredibly distressing. I've been concentrating on just healing my liver by taking magnesium, vit c, apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly all sugar from my diet and have been generally eating very lightly throughout the day. Any attempts at a stronger liver detox have given me horrendous headaches and major swelling, so a mild and slow liver healing is all I can handle at the moment. > > How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there anything I can do to help this? > > After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with the lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).> > Thanks,> Lori>

[Guest guest]

hello lori

according to the endocrinologist that i see, it takes 3 months for the body to de-tox from the iodine [lugol's or iodoral].

but according to what i've seen on the web, plus my email from dr. abraham, it doesn't take more than a week for all the iodine to leave one's body.

i see that you are taking vitamin c -- so that's good. dr. abraham recommends 6000 mg of vitamin c a day for de-toxing.

good luck to you. please keep us all posted.

annie!

How long does iodine generally stay in the body?

Posted by: "smileawhile74" smileawhile74@... smileawhile74

Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:38 am (PST)

[i only posted the part of lori's message that i am responding to]

........ How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there anything I can do to help this? .......

After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with the lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).Thanks,Lori

[Guest guest]

Hey Grizz,

Yes, I was doing the companion supps. Also, I did not start out at 4 drops, only

barely a drop. The immense weight gain and swelling came on after two months,

where I reached 4 drops a day. I only suffered massive headaches after I

attempted to do the salt loading protocol to help relieve the swelling.

I did many patch tests, and I never had a skin reaction. They usually

disappeared w/in hours.

Thanks for your reply.

Take care,

Lori

> >

> > I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was suffering severe

detox symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per day for about two months)

and swelling/weight gain (all in my upper body and stomach, that's it). I gained

16 pounds in two months, and in the two months following NOT taking a drop of

iodine, I have yet to lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the

worst swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever had.

> >

> > I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for over two

hours a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this much weight in just my

upper body (breasts and stomach) and not be able to lose it, is incredibly

distressing. I've been concentrating on just healing my liver by taking

magnesium, vit c, apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly all

sugar from my diet and have been generally eating very lightly throughout the

day. Any attempts at a stronger liver detox have given me horrendous headaches

and major swelling, so a mild and slow liver healing is all I can handle at the

moment.

> >

> > How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now

still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there anything I

can do to help this?

> >

> > After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with the

lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine

for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all

while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways

are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Lori

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Actually it's incorrect to specify niacin and not niacinimide. The product

called

ATP Co-Factors, by Optimox.com, has niacinimide. This has been the subject

of much confusion so I'm not surprised to see it arise again.

--

moderator

On 28 Feb 2012 at 10:22, Marsh wrote:

>

>

>

> I certainly hope that Niacinamide is OK as I have 250 x 500mg tablets

> here!

>

>

>

>

> Re: How long does iodine generally stay in the

> body?

>

>

>

> Lori,

> were you taking the required supplements with your iodine?

> o Selenium (200mcg) or Brazil Nut

> o 400 mg magnesium glycinate (or citrate) (not magnesium oxide ) o

> Vitamin C - 3,000 mg o vitamins - 100mg B2, 500mg B3 (niacin NOT

> niacinamide) o Unrefined Celtic Sea Salt ½ tsp (NOT table salt !)

> o Ref) http://breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html o

> http://home.comcast.net/~jocy1/junk/The%20Guide%20to%20Supplementing%2

> 0with%20Iodine. pdf Also, 4 drops of 2% is about 10mg. Why did you

> start at such a high dosage? I think it is advisable to start with 1

> drop and sloowly titrate up, then pulse-dose or titrate down if detox

> symptoms appear. How many days after you started iodine did your

> swelling begin?

>

> At this point, I don't have any advice, maybe someone else can offer

> some ideas. Are you allergic to iodine? Try doing a skin patch test to

> see if you get a skin reaction. Grizz

>

> > > I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was

> suffering severe detox symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per

> day for about two months) and swelling/weight gain (all in my upper

> body and stomach, that's it). I gained 16 pounds in two months, and in

> the two months following NOT taking a drop of iodine, I have yet to

> lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the worst swelling

> in my breasts and stomach I've ever had. > > I am a personal trainer

> and I workout at an advanced level for over two hours a day, usually

> seven days a week. To gain this much weight in just my upper body

> (breasts and stomach) and not be able to lose it, is incredibly

> distressing. I've been concentrating on just healing my liver by

> taking magnesium, vit c, apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've

> removed nearly all sugar from my diet and have been generally eating

> very lightly throughout the day. Any attempts at a stronger liver

> detox have given me horrendous headaches and major swelling, so a mild

> and slow liver healing is all I can handle at the moment. > > How long

> does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now

> still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there

> anything I can do to help this? > > After I feel confident in my liver

> healing, my plan is start back with the lugol's (and the companion

> nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine for scalp hair loss

> and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all while on the

> iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways are

> so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine). > > Thanks, > Lori >

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jo,

It's my job; I am a professional personal trainer and fitness class instructor.

Also, I rarely do just cardio -- with my clients and my classes I instruct

people to do interval training.

I've been in the fitness industry since 1994, with a MA in physical education.

Also, I eat lightly through the day, but I do not reduce food intake; I know

from many years of experience that restriction does many horrible things to the

body in the long run. I eat 40/30/30 every two hours, stopping completely by 7

pm.

My main concern is with the upper body and stomach swelling that have yet to go

away since stopping iodine and continue to plague me.

Thanks for your reply.

Take care,

Lori

> >

> > I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was suffering severe

detox symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per day for about two months)

and swelling/weight gain (all in my upper body and stomach, that's it). I gained

16 pounds in two months, and in the two months following NOT taking a drop of

iodine, I have yet to lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the

worst swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever had.

> >

> > I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for over two

hours a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this much weight in just my

upper body (breasts and stomach) and not be able to lose it, is incredibly

distressing. I've been concentrating on just healing my liver by taking

magnesium, vit c, apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly all

sugar from my diet and have been generally eating very lightly throughout the

day. Any attempts at a stronger liver detox have given me horrendous headaches

and major swelling, so a mild and slow liver healing is all I can handle at the

moment.

> >

> > How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now

still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there anything I

can do to help this?

> >

> > After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with the

lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine

for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all

while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways

are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Lori

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Removal of iodine for 48 hours is enough to prepare for the loading test. So it is not very long that the iodine remains as it is something used up by the body quickly.

Buist, ND HC

Re: How long does iodine generally stay in the body?

hello lori

according to the endocrinologist that i see, it takes 3 months for the body to de-tox from the iodine [lugol's or iodoral].

but according to what i've seen on the web, plus my email from dr. abraham, it doesn't take more than a week for all the iodine to leave one's body.

i see that you are taking vitamin c -- so that's good. dr. abraham recommends 6000 mg of vitamin c a day for de-toxing.

good luck to you. please keep us all posted.

annie!

How long does iodine generally stay in the body?

Posted by: "smileawhile74" smileawhile74@... smileawhile74

Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:38 am (PST)

[i only posted the part of lori's message that i am responding to]

........ How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there anything I can do to help this? .......

After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with the lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).Thanks,Lori

[Guest guest]

Having taken magnesium oxide, magnesium citrate, magnesium glycinate, and magnesium malate, I can say that mag oxide was the worst form of all the forms, the most poorly absorbed. Shauna

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:22 PM, natalie <fairystar32@...> wrote:

 

Can I just ask, why not magensium Oxide? I was told thats the best magensium and I now use magensium oxide oil, from ancient minerals?

> >

> > I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was suffering severe detox symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per day for about two months) and swelling/weight gain (all in my upper body and stomach, that's it). I gained 16 pounds in two months, and in the two months following NOT taking a drop of iodine, I have yet to lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the worst swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever had.

> >

> > I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for over two hours a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this much weight in just my upper body (breasts and stomach) and not be able to lose it, is incredibly distressing. I've been concentrating on just healing my liver by taking magnesium, vit c, apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly all sugar from my diet and have been generally eating very lightly throughout the day. Any attempts at a stronger liver detox have given me horrendous headaches and major swelling, so a mild and slow liver healing is all I can handle at the moment.

> >

> > How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there anything I can do to help this?

> >

> > After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with the lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Lori

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Annie. This is very helpful!

I appreciate you taking the time to write reply.

Take care,

Lori

>

>

> hello lori

>

> according to the endocrinologist that i see, it takes 3 months for the

> body to de-tox from the iodine [lugol's or iodoral].

>

> but according to what i've seen on the web, plus my email from dr.

> abraham, it doesn't take more than a week for all the iodine to leave one's

body.

>

> i see that you are taking vitamin c -- so that's good. dr. abraham

> recommends 6000 mg of vitamin c a day for de-toxing.

>

> good luck to you. please keep us all posted.

>

>

> annie!

>

>

>

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> Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:38 am (PST)

>

> [i only posted the part of lori's message that i am responding to]

>

> ....... How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm

> experiencing now still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago?

Is

> there anything I can do to help this? .......

>

> After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with the

> lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started

> iodine for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved

> at all while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my

> detox pathways are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).

>

> Thanks,

> Lori

>

[Guest guest]

Here's the thing. Lori, you describe attempts to do liver detox as making you

very ill. This is evidence that what we are saying is completely true: weight

gain

after starting iodine is the result of the body not being able to detox the

bromides that are released, and thus storing them in fat cells. If people get

ill

trying to detox the liver, that is evidence the liver really needs the detox.

The list of things you're doing for your liver don't sound like any list I've

seen that

has resulted in detox. So, I'm not sure that what you're doing is adequate,

gentle

or not.

But there are many things to do besides the oil/lemon liver/gallbladder flush.

Far infrared saunas. Herb teas (Flor-essence and Traditional Medicinals Daily

Detox are two). Lymph massage. Coffee enemas. TLC. Other people can list

more items on the list.

So at this point it's not about the iodine. It's about a strong need for

detoxing

the liver and a need to find a combination of things that is both tolerable and

effective. The iodine is long gone and, let's be clear, replaced by bromides

and

other halides on the cell receptors.

I understand that being in the fitness business and gaining weight is very

worrisome. But I think the only way out is to really get serious about the

liver

detox and general detox issue. If you have a stoppage in the detox pathways,

diet change is not going to be enough. You need some good, personalized

advice about what to do, because what you're doing isn't working.

with all best wishes,

--

moderator

On 28 Feb 2012 at 0:57, smileawhile74 wrote:

> Hi, Jo,

>

> It's my job; I am a professional personal trainer and fitness class

> instructor. Also, I rarely do just cardio -- with my clients and my

> classes I instruct people to do interval training.

>

> I've been in the fitness industry since 1994, with a MA in physical

> education. Also, I eat lightly through the day, but I do not reduce

> food intake; I know from many years of experience that restriction

> does many horrible things to the body in the long run. I eat 40/30/30

> every two hours, stopping completely by 7 pm.

>

> My main concern is with the upper body and stomach swelling that have

> yet to go away since stopping iodine and continue to plague me.

>

> Thanks for your reply.

>

> Take care,

> Lori

>

> > >

> > > I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was suffering

> > > severe detox symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per day for

> > > about two months) and swelling/weight gain (all in my upper body

> > > and stomach, that's it). I gained 16 pounds in two months, and in

> > > the two months following NOT taking a drop of iodine, I have yet

> > > to lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the worst

> > > swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever had.

> > >

> > > I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for

> > > over two hours a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this much

> > > weight in just my upper body (breasts and stomach) and not be able

> > > to lose it, is incredibly distressing. I've been concentrating on

> > > just healing my liver by taking magnesium, vit c, apple cider

> > > vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly all sugar from my

> > > diet and have been generally eating very lightly throughout the

> > > day. Any attempts at a stronger liver detox have given me

> > > horrendous headaches and major swelling, so a mild and slow liver

> > > healing is all I can handle at the moment.

> > >

> > > How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm

> > > experiencing now still from the iodine that I stopped taking two

> > > months ago? Is there anything I can do to help this?

> > >

> > > After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back

> > > with the lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more

> > > slowly. I started iodine for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic

> > > breasts, neither of which improved at all while on the iodine and

> > > companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways are so

> > > clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Lori

> > >

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey Lori,Just a thought ... it is away from topic but I have a friend who started experiencing upper body swelling, weight gain and fatigue, etc and it was because she started using a new makeup containing nano particles of titanium dioxide. It is really bad stuff. After a few months of feeling tired and unwell she ended up in hospital with severe tremors and not being able to speak and only when she traced it to the new make up, stopped using it and started detoxing did she start to get better. But again it is detoxing the liver and body that will get any rubbish out whatever it is. It may take time though.I just bring that up because some

makeup companies have started using titanium dioxide in small enough particles to pass though the skin and it affects some people really badly. From: smileawhile74 <smileawhile74@...> iodine Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:57 AM Subject: Re: How long does iodine generally stay in the body?

Hi, Jo,

It's my job; I am a professional personal trainer and fitness class instructor. Also, I rarely do just cardio -- with my clients and my classes I instruct people to do interval training.

I've been in the fitness industry since 1994, with a MA in physical education. Also, I eat lightly through the day, but I do not reduce food intake; I know from many years of experience that restriction does many horrible things to the body in the long run. I eat 40/30/30 every two hours, stopping completely by 7 pm.

My main concern is with the upper body and stomach swelling that have yet to go away since stopping iodine and continue to plague me.

Thanks for your reply.

Take care,

Lori

> >

> > I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was suffering severe detox symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per day for about two months) and swelling/weight gain (all in my upper body and stomach, that's it). I gained 16 pounds in two months, and in the two months following NOT taking a drop of iodine, I have yet to lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the worst swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever had.

> >

> > I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for over two hours a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this much weight in just my upper body (breasts and stomach) and not be able to lose it, is incredibly distressing. I've been concentrating on just healing my liver by taking magnesium, vit c, apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly all sugar from my diet and have been generally eating very lightly throughout the day. Any attempts at a stronger liver detox have given me horrendous headaches and major swelling, so a mild and slow liver healing is all I can handle at the moment.

> >

> > How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there anything I can do to help this?

> >

> > After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with the lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Lori

> >

>

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I didn’t see that your question had been answered; forgive the repetition if it has.  Ancient Minerals Magnesium Oil is magnesium chloride. Magnesium Oxide (MgO) is not really designed to be a source of bio-available (available for the body to use) dietary magnesium. Only about 4% of its elemental magnesium is absorbed or about 12 mg out of a 500 mg tablet.  In my opinion this would be a very poor choice for magnesium.  Ancient Minerals provides approximately 560 mg of elemental magnesium per teaspoon.Be WellDr.L -----Original Message-----From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of natalieSent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:23 PMiodine Subject: Re: How long does iodine generally stay in the body? Can I just ask, why not magensium Oxide? I was told thats the best magensium and I now use magensium oxide oil, from ancient minerals? > >> > I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was suffering severe detox symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per day for about two months) and swelling/weight gain (all in my upper body and stomach, that's it). I gained 16 pounds in two months, and in the two months following NOT taking a drop of iodine, I have yet to lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the worst swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever had.> > > > I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for over two hours a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this much weight in just my upper body (breasts and stomach) and not be able to lose it, is incredibly distressing. I've been concentrating on just healing my liver by taking magnesium, vit c, apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly all sugar from my diet and have been generally eating very lightly throughout the day. Any attempts at a stronger liver detox have given me horrendous headaches and major swelling, so a mild and slow liver healing is all I can handle at the moment. > > > > How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there anything I can do to help this? > > > > After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with the lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).> > > > Thanks,> > Lori> >>

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I could be wrong, but I suspect some of my pudginess is due to yeast overgrowth, and I am hoping that in time the iodine will help clear that!

And it is not just bromides that the body quarantines in fat. There are all sorts of environmental nasties. I am told that over 70,000 new chemicals are produced every year!

Re: Re: How long does iodine generally stay in the body?

Here's the thing. Lori, you describe attempts to do liver detox as making you very ill. This is evidence that what we are saying is completely true: weight gain after starting iodine is the result of the body not being able to detox the bromides that are released, and thus storing them in fat cells. If people get ill trying to detox the liver, that is evidence the liver really needs the detox.The list of things you're doing for your liver don't sound like any list I've seen that has resulted in detox. So, I'm not sure that what you're doing is adequate, gentle or not.But there are many things to do besides the oil/lemon liver/gallbladder flush. Far infrared saunas. Herb teas (Flor-essence and Traditional Medicinals Daily Detox are two). Lymph massage. Coffee enemas. TLC. Other people can list more items on the list.So at this point it's not about the iodine. It's about a strong need for detoxing the liver and a need to find a combination of things that is both tolerable and effective. The iodine is long gone and, let's be clear, replaced by bromides and other halides on the cell receptors.I understand that being in the fitness business and gaining weight is very worrisome. But I think the only way out is to really get serious about the liver detox and general detox issue. If you have a stoppage in the detox pathways, diet change is not going to be enough. You need some good, personalized advice about what to do, because what you're doing isn't working.with all best wishes,--moderatorOn 28 Feb 2012 at 0:57, smileawhile74 wrote:> Hi, Jo,> > It's my job; I am a professional personal trainer and fitness class> instructor. Also, I rarely do just cardio -- with my clients and my> classes I instruct people to do interval training. > > I've been in the fitness industry since 1994, with a MA in physical> education. Also, I eat lightly through the day, but I do not reduce> food intake; I know from many years of experience that restriction> does many horrible things to the body in the long run. I eat 40/30/30> every two hours, stopping completely by 7 pm.> > My main concern is with the upper body and stomach swelling that have> yet to go away since stopping iodine and continue to plague me. > > Thanks for your reply.> > Take care,> Lori > > > >> > > I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was suffering> > > severe detox symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per day for> > > about two months) and swelling/weight gain (all in my upper body> > > and stomach, that's it). I gained 16 pounds in two months, and in> > > the two months following NOT taking a drop of iodine, I have yet> > > to lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the worst> > > swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever had.> > > > > > I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for> > > over two hours a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this much> > > weight in just my upper body (breasts and stomach) and not be able> > > to lose it, is incredibly distressing. I've been concentrating on> > > just healing my liver by taking magnesium, vit c, apple cider> > > vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly all sugar from my> > > diet and have been generally eating very lightly throughout the> > > day. Any attempts at a stronger liver detox have given me> > > horrendous headaches and major swelling, so a mild and slow liver> > > healing is all I can handle at the moment. > > > > > > How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm> > > experiencing now still from the iodine that I stopped taking two> > > months ago? Is there anything I can do to help this? > > > > > > After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back> > > with the lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more> > > slowly. I started iodine for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic> > > breasts, neither of which improved at all while on the iodine and> > > companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways are so> > > clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).> > > > > > Thanks,> > > Lori> > >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > Owner: Buist, ND HC> Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > IodineOT/> > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list)> iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2> 0-%20READ%20FIRST/

[Guest guest]

Yes, that's right, . We are swimming in a chemical bath now, and our

toxic burden is very high.

You've reminded me of something. A lot of times people stop the iodine

because of the weight gain they experienced, but meanwhile without adding

iodine to the system, more and more bromides and other halides are locked

onto cell receptors. Those bromides will only have to be knocked off again at

some point. Plus iodine actually assists the body in detoxification. So I'm

not at

all sure that quitting iodine in response to unwanted detox symptoms is the most

efficient course.

--

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On 28 Feb 2012 at 14:41, Marsh wrote:

>

>

>

> I could be wrong, but I suspect some ofmy pudginess is due to yeast

> overgrowth, and I am hoping that in time the iodine will help clear

> that!

>

> And it is not just bromides that the body quarantines in fat. There

> are all sorts of environmental nasties. I am told that over 70,000 new

> chemicals are produced every year!

>

>

>

> Re: Re: How long does iodine generally stay in

> the body?

>

>

> Here's the thing. Lori, you describe attempts to do liver detox as

> making you very ill. This is evidence that what we are saying is

> completely true: weight gain after starting iodine is the result of

> the body not being able to detox the bromides that are released, and

> thus storing them in fat cells. If people get ill trying to detox the

> liver, that is evidence the liver really needs the detox.

>

> The list of things you're doing for your liver don't sound like any

> list I've seen that has resulted in detox. So, I'm not sure that what

> you're doing is adequate, gentle or not.

>

> But there are many things to do besides the oil/lemon

> liver/gallbladder flush. Far infrared saunas. Herb teas (Flor-essence

> and Traditional Medicinals Daily Detox are two). Lymph massage. Coffee

> enemas. TLC. Other people can list more items on the list.

>

> So at this point it's not about the iodine. It's about a strong need

> for detoxing the liver and a need to find a combination of things that

> is both tolerable and effective. The iodine is long gone and, let's be

> clear, replaced by bromides and other halides on the cell receptors.

>

> I understand that being in the fitness business and gaining weight is

> very worrisome. But I think the only way out is to really get serious

> about the liver detox and general detox issue. If you have a stoppage

> in the detox pathways, diet change is not going to be enough. You need

> some good, personalized advice about what to do, because what you're

> doing isn't working.

>

> with all best wishes,

> --

> moderator

>

> On 28 Feb 2012 at 0:57, smileawhile74 wrote:

>

> > Hi, Jo,

> >

> > It's my job; I am a professional personal trainer and fitness class

> > instructor. Also, I rarely do just cardio -- with my clients and my

> > classes I instruct people to do interval training.

> >

> > I've been in the fitness industry since 1994, with a MA in physical

> > education. Also, I eat lightly through the day, but I do not reduce

> > food intake; I know from many years of experience that restriction

> > does many horrible things to the body in the long run. I eat

> > 40/30/30 every two hours, stopping completely by 7 pm.

> >

> > My main concern is with the upper body and stomach swelling that

> > have yet to go away since stopping iodine and continue to plague me.

> >

> >

> > Thanks for your reply.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Lori

> >

> > > >

> > > > I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was

> > > > suffering severe detox symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's

> > > > per day for about two months) and swelling/weight gain (all in

> > > > my upper body and stomach, that's it). I gained 16 pounds in two

> > > > months, and in the two months following NOT taking a drop of

> > > > iodine, I have yet to lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm

> > > > suffering the worst swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever

> > > > had.

> > > >

> > > > I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for

> > > > over two hours a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this

> > > > much weight in just my upper body (breasts and stomach) and not

> > > > be able to lose it, is incredibly distressing. I've been

> > > > concentrating on just healing my liver by taking magnesium, vit

> > > > c, apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly all

> > > > sugar from my diet and have been generally eating very lightly

> > > > throughout the day. Any attempts at a stronger liver detox have

> > > > given me horrendous headaches and major swelling, so a mild and

> > > > slow liver healing is all I can handle at the moment.

> > > >

> > > > How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm

> > > > experiencing now still from the iodine that I stopped taking two

> > > > months ago? Is there anything I can do to help this?

> > > >

> > > > After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start

> > > > back with the lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much

> > > > more slowly. I started iodine for scalp hair loss and

> > > > fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all while on

> > > > the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox

> > > > pathways are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Lori

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

,

You're confusing two different things. The Ancient MInerals is not magnesium

oxide. It is magnesium chloride. That's good stuff.

--

moderator

>

>

> Can I just ask, why not magensium Oxide? I was told thats the best

> magensium and I now use magensium oxide oil, from ancient minerals?

>

[Guest guest]

Whoops so it is !! thanks for letting me know...

>

> ,

>

> You're confusing two different things. The Ancient MInerals is not magnesium

> oxide. It is magnesium chloride. That's good stuff.

>

> --

> moderator

>

>

> >

> >

> > Can I just ask, why not magensium Oxide? I was told thats the best

> > magensium and I now use magensium oxide oil, from ancient minerals?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

hello, dr. l! i understand that magnesium oxide in pill form is not absorbed

adequately (ok, barely), but what about in liquid form? i've been making this

magnesium water http://www.afibbers.org/Wallerwater.pdf and understand that this

ionized form of magnesium is highly absorbable? what say you? thanks! anja

> > >

> > > I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was suffering severe

> detox symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per day for about two

> months) and swelling/weight gain (all in my upper body and stomach, that's

> it). I gained 16 pounds in two months, and in the two months following NOT

> taking a drop of iodine, I have yet to lose any of it and, premenstrually,

> I'm suffering the worst swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever had.

> > >

> > > I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for over two

> hours a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this much weight in just my

> upper body (breasts and stomach) and not be able to lose it, is incredibly

> distressing. I've been concentrating on just healing my liver by taking

> magnesium, vit c, apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly

> all sugar from my diet and have been generally eating very lightly

> throughout the day. Any attempts at a stronger liver detox have given me

> horrendous headaches and major swelling, so a mild and slow liver healing is

> all I can handle at the moment.

> > >

> > > How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing

> now still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there

> anything I can do to help this?

> > >

> > > After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with

> the lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started

> iodine for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which

> improved at all while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably

> because my detox pathways are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Lori

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Anja,I don't know technically if it is better absorbed, but I have friends who use the MOM/Soda water combination with good results. in Alaska

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:57 AM, catdeveer <catdeveer@...> wrote:

 

hello, dr. l! i understand that magnesium oxide in pill form is not absorbed adequately (ok, barely), but what about in liquid form? i've been making this magnesium water http://www.afibbers.org/Wallerwater.pdf and understand that this ionized form of magnesium is highly absorbable? what say you? thanks! anja

[Guest guest]

The best way to determine if you're absorbing a form of magnesium well is just to try it, and try other forms, and see what you get results from. Your body will tell you whether you're getting sufficient magnesium. (My body screams at me, making it very clear whether I'm getting enough.) If I were you I'd simply take tablets of magnesium citrate, glycinate, or malate. I have good experience with all three of those forms, and they're all affordable. 

ShaunaOn Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Hidden Jewel <hiddenjewelalaska@...> wrote:

 

Anja,I don't know technically if it is better absorbed, but I have friends who use the MOM/Soda water combination with good results. in Alaska

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:57 AM, catdeveer <catdeveer@...> wrote:

 

hello, dr. l! i understand that magnesium oxide in pill form is not absorbed adequately (ok, barely), but what about in liquid form? i've been making this magnesium water http://www.afibbers.org/Wallerwater.pdf and understand that this ionized form of magnesium is highly absorbable? what say you? thanks! anja

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Lori,

Are you taking any kind of adrenal supplements?

Linn

>

> I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was suffering severe detox

symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per day for about two months) and

swelling/weight gain (all in my upper body and stomach, that's it). I gained 16

pounds in two months, and in the two months following NOT taking a drop of

iodine, I have yet to lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the

worst swelling in my breasts and stomach I've ever had.

>

> I am a personal trainer and I workout at an advanced level for over two hours

a day, usually seven days a week. To gain this much weight in just my upper body

(breasts and stomach) and not be able to lose it, is incredibly distressing.

I've been concentrating on just healing my liver by taking magnesium, vit c,

apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've removed nearly all sugar from my diet

and have been generally eating very lightly throughout the day. Any attempts at

a stronger liver detox have given me horrendous headaches and major swelling, so

a mild and slow liver healing is all I can handle at the moment.

>

> How long does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now

still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there anything I

can do to help this?

>

> After I feel confident in my liver healing, my plan is start back with the

lugol's (and the companion nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine

for scalp hair loss and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all

while on the iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways

are so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine).

>

> Thanks,

> Lori

>

[Guest guest]

Although we do have folks here who swear by niacin.

Linn

> > I haven't taken any iodine for nearly two months. I was

> > suffering severe detox symptoms (only from 4 drops of 2% Lugol's per

> > day for about two months) and swelling/weight gain (all in my upper

> > body and stomach, that's it). I gained 16 pounds in two months, and in

> > the two months following NOT taking a drop of iodine, I have yet to

> > lose any of it and, premenstrually, I'm suffering the worst swelling

> > in my breasts and stomach I've ever had. > > I am a personal trainer

> > and I workout at an advanced level for over two hours a day, usually

> > seven days a week. To gain this much weight in just my upper body

> > (breasts and stomach) and not be able to lose it, is incredibly

> > distressing. I've been concentrating on just healing my liver by

> > taking magnesium, vit c, apple cider vinegar, and chlorophyll. I've

> > removed nearly all sugar from my diet and have been generally eating

> > very lightly throughout the day. Any attempts at a stronger liver

> > detox have given me horrendous headaches and major swelling, so a mild

> > and slow liver healing is all I can handle at the moment. > > How long

> > does iodine stay in the body? Is the swelling I'm experiencing now

> > still from the iodine that I stopped taking two months ago? Is there

> > anything I can do to help this? > > After I feel confident in my liver

> > healing, my plan is start back with the lugol's (and the companion

> > nutrients), but much more slowly. I started iodine for scalp hair loss

> > and fibrocystic breasts, neither of which improved at all while on the

> > iodine and companion nutrients (probably because my detox pathways are

> > so clogged and too low of a dose of iodine). > > Thanks, > Lori >

>

[Guest guest]

yay, ! then i'll just have to keep drinking it. that and magnesium oil

are now i supplement that part of the protocol. anja

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > hello, dr. l! i understand that magnesium oxide in pill form is not

> > absorbed adequately (ok, barely), but what about in liquid form? i've been

> > making this magnesium water http://www.afibbers.org/Wallerwater.pdf and

> > understand that this ionized form of magnesium is highly absorbable? what

> > say you? thanks! anja

> >

> >

>

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Hello, Shauna,

I do the mom/soda water and mag oil because i cannot tolerate magnesium in pill

form. i have ibs and they all trigger a response. plus, even though for many

the forms you take are affordable, for me, not so much. yet.

how does your body " scream " at you that you need more magnesium? do tell!

please and thank you. anja

> >

> >> **

> >>

> >>

> >> hello, dr. l! i understand that magnesium oxide in pill form is not

> >> absorbed adequately (ok, barely), but what about in liquid form? i've been

> >> making this magnesium water http://www.afibbers.org/Wallerwater.pdf and

> >> understand that this ionized form of magnesium is highly absorbable? what

> >> say you? thanks! anja

> >>

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