Re: Salt and Leg Edema revisited+Dody

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Hi Dody:

Thanks so much

for this information. I too eat Bananas everyday but didn’t think that

would be a problem when I have Malabsorption and never know what is being

absorbed. I was just going to buy some Potassium.

My question is –

aren’t we getting a fair bit of Potassium with the Potassium Iodide in

the Lugol’s?

Please let me

know.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Dorothy VerSluis

Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012

2:12 PM

iodine

Subject: RE: Re: Salt and

Leg Edema revisited

I was recently having leg edema again, and found that part of my

problem was too much Potassium!

I have been having more and more trouble with shortness of

breath lately, even though I am on oxygen 24/7. I was thinking I needed

more potassium and was eating more and more bananas. Finally I realized I

was getting too much Potassium!

If Potassium is too high or too low, it can be dangerous for the

heart.

Also, you might want to read about Chromium. Online info

reveals that while we don’t need much Chromium, it is crucial.

We certainly are a complex puzzle! Finding the right

recipe for each of us is a real challenge. It’s a good thing we

have one another on this forum. Docs are just about useless.

Dody

Colorado

From: iodine

[mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of baxrox

Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012

10:58 AM

iodine

Subject: Re: Salt and Leg

Edema revisited

Bonnie,

When I read your first inquiry awhile back my thoughts went to a question of

electrolyte balance. People low on potassium (or significantly out of balance

in comparison to the other electrolytes) may have edema.

If I recall your earlier post mentioned also struggling with high blood

pressure ... when I think of high blood pressure I do not think of unrefined

sea salt being the cause, I think of either a lack of potassium or magnesium -

or both. Low magnesium is somewhat easier to narrow down symptomatically.

To get a true lab result obtain either an intracellular test by IntraCellular

Diagnostics or a Red Blood Cell because serum levels are not accurate for

measurement. Generally if the serum levels of magnesium are out of whack things

have progressed to a critical place.

Because each person has individual challenges one could not say for example

" I " m taking 400 mg of magnesium per day " and think that would be

enough. For some that is enough but for others up to 1200 mg per day may be

their best dose. The type of magnesium being used also needs to be taken into

consideration. You have been a long time list member and have most likely

absorbed a lot of information about magnesium.

Potassium is not discussed as much because it is not officially part of the

iodine protocol as an additional supplement, but it is present in potassium

iodide which is in both Lugol's and Iodoral.

Cortisol has a big influence on potassium. I have read " low cortisol

retains potassium & wastes sodium, high cortisol wastes potassium &

retains sodium " . So adrenals are playing a role in this scenario but there

are other things that affect potassium such as kidney function, and there are

other things such as chronic venous disease that cause edema in the lower legs.

There is also a connection between progesterone and potassium.

In regards to potassium supplementation I am keen on potassium bicarbonate as a

source if supplementation is needed, though others find potassium chloride

beneficial. Again, it depends on the individuals situation.

If it were me I would be looking at electrolyte balance and other causes of low

leg edema and high blood pressure and not be as concerned about the consumption

of unrefined sea salt, unless it is out of proportion to the other

electrolytes.

Here are articles that may be of interest to you: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/water3.php

and http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1998/articles/1998-v13n04-p215.shtml

>

> Hello:

> I'm writing again because I didn't receive any clear-cut answer to my

lower

> leg Edema. I received a few questions but no real advice, so here I am

> again.

> This time I wanted to add what the doctor said as he pressed his thumb on

my

> swollen SHIN. " This is from Salt in your diet " .

> I wonder now if I should CONTINUE USING SALT?

> Any advise out there?

> Thanks,

>

> Bonnie

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The RDA for potassium is 4,700mg. The amount of potassium in one drop of

Lugol's 5% is about 1.25mg. So no, you aren't getting much potassium at

all from the Lugol's.

You do have to be careful supplementing with potassium. The OTC

supplements only contain about 90mg which is not much at all. In Canada,

there is K-Dur which is OTC and that's 20 meq (782mg), but potassium is

NOT one to play around with in high doses. If you think your potassium

is too low or too high, this is one that you should use lab tests for,

IMHO.

in NS, Canada

At 01:46 PM 22/02/12, you wrote:

Hi

Dody:

Thanks so much for this information. I too eat Bananas everyday but

didn’t think that would be a problem when I have Malabsorption and never

know what is being absorbed. I was just going to buy some

Potassium.

My question is – aren’t we getting a fair bit of Potassium with the

Potassium Iodide in the Lugol’s?

Please let me know.

Bonnie

From: iodine

[mailto:iodine ]

On Behalf Of Dorothy VerSluis

Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:12 PM

iodine

Subject: RE: Re: Salt and Leg Edema revisited

I was

recently having leg edema again, and found that part of my problem was

too much Potassium!

I have been having more and more trouble with shortness of breath lately,

even though I am on oxygen 24/7. I was thinking I needed more

potassium and was eating more and more bananas. Finally I realized

I was getting too much Potassium!

If Potassium is too high or too low, it can be dangerous for the

heart.

Also, you might want to read about Chromium. Online info reveals

that while we don’t need much Chromium, it is crucial.

We certainly are a complex puzzle! Finding the right recipe for

each of us is a real challenge. It’s a good thing we have one

another on this forum. Docs are just about useless.

Dody

Colorado

From:

iodine

[mailto:iodine ]

On Behalf Of baxrox

Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:58 AM

iodine

Subject: Re: Salt and Leg Edema revisited

Bonnie,

When I read your first inquiry awhile back my thoughts went to a question

of electrolyte balance. People low on potassium (or significantly out of

balance in comparison to the other electrolytes) may have edema.

If I recall your earlier post mentioned also struggling with high blood

pressure ... when I think of high blood pressure I do not think of

unrefined sea salt being the cause, I think of either a lack of potassium

or magnesium - or both. Low magnesium is somewhat easier to narrow down

symptomatically.

To get a true lab result obtain either an intracellular test by

IntraCellular Diagnostics or a Red Blood Cell because serum levels are

not accurate for measurement. Generally if the serum levels of magnesium

are out of whack things have progressed to a critical place.

Because each person has individual challenges one could not say for

example " I " m taking 400 mg of magnesium per day " and think

that would be enough. For some that is enough but for others up to 1200

mg per day may be their best dose. The type of magnesium being used also

needs to be taken into consideration. You have been a long time list

member and have most likely absorbed a lot of information about

magnesium.

Potassium is not discussed as much because it is not officially part of

the iodine protocol as an additional supplement, but it is present in

potassium iodide which is in both Lugol's and Iodoral.

Cortisol has a big influence on potassium. I have read " low cortisol

retains potassium & wastes sodium, high cortisol wastes potassium

& retains sodium " . So adrenals are playing a role in this

scenario but there are other things that affect potassium such as kidney

function, and there are other things such as chronic venous disease that

cause edema in the lower legs. There is also a connection between

progesterone and potassium.

In regards to potassium supplementation I am keen on potassium

bicarbonate as a source if supplementation is needed, though others find

potassium chloride beneficial. Again, it depends on the individuals

situation.

If it were me I would be looking at electrolyte balance and other causes

of low leg edema and high blood pressure and not be as concerned about

the consumption of unrefined sea salt, unless it is out of proportion to

the other electrolytes.

Here are articles that may be of interest to you:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/water3.php

and http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1998/articles/1998-v13n04-p215.shtml

>

> Hello:

> I'm writing again because I didn't receive any clear-cut answer to my lower

> leg Edema. I received a few questions but no real advice, so here I am

> again.

> This time I wanted to add what the doctor said as he pressed his thumb on my

> swollen SHIN. " This is from Salt in your diet " .

> I wonder now if I should CONTINUE USING SALT?

> Any advise out there?

> Thanks,

>

> Bonnie

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The Potassium in KI is 23.5528%

From my xls file I have recorded 1.2mg K per drop of Lugo's 5%.

It actually will depend on your drop size, I measured mine.

Very little Potassium considering the RDA for those over 50 is 4700mg/day.

I target Potassium rich foods in my diet.

My average intake is about 6.24 grams per day.

6 oz Sweet Potato is one of my best suppliers @ 807.96mg

6 oz of Brocccoli @ 498.75mg

4 oz Bananna @ 405.96mg

etc.

I can go on and on as I have broken down all my foods to obtain their Nutrient

content. But I still have to add Potassium Bicarb to my drinking water to obtain

6 grams per day.

I found it very hard to almost impossible to obtain the K needed until I changed

and modified my entire diet plan. (no junk food)

Hope this helps.

> >

> > Hello:

>

> > I'm writing again because I didn't receive any clear-cut answer to my

> lower

> > leg Edema. I received a few questions but no real advice, so here I am

> > again.

>

> > This time I wanted to add what the doctor said as he pressed his thumb on

> my

> > swollen SHIN. " This is from Salt in your diet " .

>

> > I wonder now if I should CONTINUE USING SALT?

>

> > Any advise out there?

>

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Bonnie

>

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Thank you so much for this info. I do love a lot of the good potassium foods, like sweet potatoes and broccoli, etc. But I was just getting carried away. I'm going to keep this info. Thanks again, DodyColorado From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of securtekmanSent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:35 PMiodine Subject: Re: Salt and Leg Edema revisited+Dody The Potassium in KI is 23.5528%From my xls file I have recorded 1.2mg K per drop of Lugo's 5%.It actually will depend on your drop size, I measured mine.Very little Potassium considering the RDA for those over 50 is 4700mg/day.I target Potassium rich foods in my diet.My average intake is about 6.24 grams per day.6 oz Sweet Potato is one of my best suppliers @ 807.96mg6 oz of Brocccoli @ 498.75mg4 oz Bananna @ 405.96mgetc.I can go on and on as I have broken down all my foods to obtain their Nutrient content. But I still have to add Potassium Bicarb to my drinking water to obtain 6 grams per day.I found it very hard to almost impossible to obtain the K needed until I changed and modified my entire diet plan. (no junk food)Hope this helps.> >> > Hello:> > > I'm writing again because I didn't receive any clear-cut answer to my> lower> > leg Edema. I received a few questions but no real advice, so here I am> > again.> > > This time I wanted to add what the doctor said as he pressed his thumb on> my> > swollen SHIN. " This is from Salt in your diet " .> > > I wonder now if I should CONTINUE USING SALT?> > > Any advise out there?> > > Thanks,> > > > Bonnie> > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #aca899 " align=center> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4823 - Release Date: 02/21/12> > > > <hr size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #aca899 " align=center> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4826 - Release Date: 02/22/12>