RE: supporting nutrients: supplements or food?

March 8, 2012

Hi Eva:

You can depend

on your diet for good health in general but when you’re doing the Iodine

Protocol you need ALL the supporting nutrients plus the Sea Salt to help with

detoxing.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Turi Nagy Éva

Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012

4:42 AM

iodine

Subject: supporting

nutrients: supplements or food?

Dear all!

My next

question is about the supporting nutrients:

We shop

weekly at our organic market and buy sea buckthorn sirup made from raw berries

and honey, have several drinks daily with mineral water. (Vitamin C)

We eat raw

garlic daily added to all sorts of food, also cook with it (Selenium)

We use

unrefined salt from the carpatian mountains

Eat bone

broth daily (not sure about its magnesium content?), and I will add chard now

spring comes…

Do you think

I shoul add the supporting nutrients in tablet form, or is a balanced

traditional diet good enough so support the iodine protocol??

Thanks for

any thoughts!

Eva in Budapest

Turi Nagy Éva

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March 8, 2012

Bonnie,

When is it safe to stop taking the supporting nutrients? Are we safe when the

Iodine Loading Test is > 90% and the Bromide test is good? Then at that point it

we can drop down to 24mg daily and no more supporting nutrients? I looked for

the answer in your " Guide to supplementing with iodine, " to no avail.

many thanks,

Grizz

>

> Hi Eva:

>

> You can depend on your diet for good health in general but when you're doing

> the Iodine Protocol you need ALL the supporting nutrients plus the Sea Salt

> to help with detoxing.

>

> Bonnie

>

> _____

>

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

> Turi Nagy Éva

> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:42 AM

> iodine

> Subject: supporting nutrients: supplements or food?

>

> Dear all!

>

> My next question is about the supporting nutrients:

>

> We shop weekly at our organic market and buy sea buckthorn sirup made from

> raw berries and honey, have several drinks daily with mineral water.

> (Vitamin C)

>

> We eat raw garlic daily added to all sorts of food, also cook with it

> (Selenium)

>

> We use unrefined salt from the carpatian mountains

>

> Eat bone broth daily (not sure about its magnesium content?), and I will add

> chard now spring comes…

>

> Do you think I shoul add the supporting nutrients in tablet form, or is a

> balanced traditional diet good enough so support the iodine protocol??

>

> Thanks for any thoughts!

>

> Eva in Budapest

>

> Turi Nagy Éva

>

> _____

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March 8, 2012

Are you familiar with Fitday.com, you can input foods and it will calculate

vitamins and minerals for you. Vit C would probably be the hardest to get

enough of, but you'd really need to calculate it out to know how much you're

getting. Also you'd have to have great gut health. Although we may have a good

diet, the key is the absorption. One could be consuming an excellent diet, but

with gut issues may not be absorbing it properly. Depending on foods for

selenium can be tricky, as the content may not necessarily be constant.

Linn

Moderator

>

> Dear all!

>

> My next question is about the supporting nutrients:

>

> We shop weekly at our organic market and buy sea buckthorn sirup made from

> raw berries and honey, have several drinks daily with mineral water.

> (Vitamin C)at

>

> We eat raw garlic daily added to all sorts of food, also cook with it

> (Selenium)

>

> We use unrefined salt from the carpatian mountains

>

> Eat bone broth daily (not sure about its magnesium content?), and I will add

> chard now spring comes.

>

> Do you think I shoul add the supporting nutrients in tablet form, or is a

> balanced traditional diet good enough so support the iodine protocol??

>

> Thanks for any thoughts!

>

> Eva in Budapest

>

> Turi Nagy Éva

>

March 8, 2012

Hi Eva,While you are doing lots to get good nutrients from your food, it still is hard to get the levels needed from food. Taking it in supplement form guarentees you are getting the necessary amounts for the protocol. Donna in IL, moderator Hi Eva: You can depend on your diet for good health in general but when you’re doing the Iodine Protocol you need ALL the supporting nutrients plus the Sea Salt to help with detoxing. Bonnie From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Turi Nagy ÉvaSent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:42 AMiodine Subject: supporting nutrients: supplements or food? Dear all! My next question is about the supporting nutrients: We shop weekly at our organic market and buy sea buckthorn sirup made from raw berries and honey, have several drinks daily with mineral water. (Vitamin C)We eat raw garlic daily added to all sorts of food, also cook with it (Selenium)We use unrefined salt from the carpatian mountainsEat bone broth daily (not sure about its magnesium content?), and I will add chard now spring comes… Do you think I shoul add the supporting nutrients in tablet form, or is a balanced traditional diet good enough so support the iodine protocol?? Thanks for any thoughts! Eva in Budapest Turi Nagy Éva size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #aca899 " align=center> No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4857 - Release Date: 03/07/12

March 8, 2012

Yes but not all supplements are equal; something to be aware of. Remember that study that concluded that vitamin E increase the chances of getting prostate cancer? Well the study was flawed, because they were using a synthetic form.Â Synthetics, the darlings of bigPharma, are all over the place and heavily advertised on TV.Â

You can't go wrong with food grade supplements or superfoods (high nutrient density) as powdered fruits and vegetables. Personally I prefer to get my supplements from the lowest part of the food chain. As the body goes through it synthesis process (1000's of chain reactions) so many other things are produced, that are not produced by just taking the vitamin.

OlusholaOn Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Donna Iler <Donna@...> wrote:

Â

Â Hi Eva,

While you are doing lots to get good nutrients from your food, it still is hard to get the levels needed from food. Taking it in supplement form guarentees you are getting the necessary amounts for the protocol.

Â Donna in IL, moderator

Â Hi Eva:

Â You can depend on your diet for good health in general but when youâ€™re doing the Iodine Protocol you need ALL the supporting nutrients plus the Sea Salt to help with detoxing.

Â Bonnie

Â

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Turi Nagy Ã‰va

Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:42 AMiodine Subject: supporting nutrients: supplements or food?

Â Â Dear all!Â

My next question is about the supporting nutrients: Â

We shop weekly at our organic market and buy sea buckthorn sirup made from raw berries and honey, have several drinks daily with mineral water. Â (Vitamin C)

We eat raw garlic daily added to all sorts of food, also cook with it (Selenium)We use unrefined salt from the carpatian mountains

Eat bone broth daily (not sure about its magnesium content?), and I will add chard now spring comesâ€¦Â

Do you think I shoul add the supporting nutrients in tablet form, or is a balanced traditional diet good enough so support the iodine protocol??

Â Thanks for any thoughts!Â

Eva in BudapestÂ Turi Nagy Ã‰va

Â

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March 9, 2012

Grizz - I think you are confused. I wrote the guide to supplementing with Iodine. You can find it on my website as well at www.steppingstonesliving.com/resources/iodine/ Bonnie did not write it. I am a Naturopathic Practitioner and have been working with Dr. Brownstein and the other Iodine doctors since 2006 to develop that guide. I am also the owner of this group and have been assisting members with the protocol since 2007.

That being said:

Iodine supplementation is for life. It is something that we all must do to maintain balance against the bombarding of toxic halides from our environment. These are Fluoride, Bromide, Chloride and Mercury. They come from many sources - most of which I believe you can determine. Bromide is a flame retardant and is found in mattresses, carpet, vehicles and electronics (mainly) although it is also found in sports drinks, sodas and breads / flour. It is disguised as BVO or Brominated Vegetable oil. Your exposure will be something that is hard to control.

It used to be thought that 25 mgs was the maintenance dosage after reaching a saturation level of 90% on the Iodine Loading test. But the increase in usage of halides has necessitated an increase to what we believe to be 50 mgs. This was discussed at the Iodine conference I attended with Dr. Abraham, Dr. Brownstein, Dr. Flechas and others. The companion nutrients are nutrients that are needed to maintain optimal usage of iodine as well as continued detoxification. Magnesium is needed in over 300 enzyme reactions in the body - not just iodine. Selenium is a key nutrient in thyroid hormone creation as well as glutathione creation which is needed for detoxification. Salt is needed by the body for iodine, adrenals, thyroid and more. Vit C is a powerful antioxidant that also assists in detoxification, adrenals, immune function, etc.

So the short answer to your question is yes - you will need iodine and the companion nutrients for life. Our food is very low in nutrients - even organic is struggling to maintain good levels. To obtain and assured amount of the needed nutrients you would have a difficult time.

Buist, ND HC

Owner / Iodine Group

supporting nutrients: supplements or food?> > > > > > Dear all!> > > > My next question is about the supporting nutrients: > > > > We shop weekly at our organic market and buy sea buckthorn sirup made from> raw berries and honey, have several drinks daily with mineral water.> (Vitamin C)> > We eat raw garlic daily added to all sorts of food, also cook with it> (Selenium)> > We use unrefined salt from the carpatian mountains> > Eat bone broth daily (not sure about its magnesium content?), and I will add> chard now spring comes…> > > > Do you think I shoul add the supporting nutrients in tablet form, or is a> balanced traditional diet good enough so support the iodine protocol??> > > > Thanks for any thoughts!> > > > Eva in Budapest> > > > Turi Nagy Éva> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > size=1 width="100%" noshade color="#aca899" align=center> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4857 - Release Date: 03/07/12>

March 9, 2012

Steph,

Many thanks - THAT was a terrific answer !

Grizz

> >

> > Hi Eva:

> >

> > You can depend on your diet for good health in general but when you're

doing

> > the Iodine Protocol you need ALL the supporting nutrients plus the Sea

Salt

> > to help with detoxing.

> >

> > Bonnie

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

> > Turi Nagy Éva

> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:42 AM

> > iodine

> > Subject: supporting nutrients: supplements or food?

> >

> > Dear all!

> >

> > My next question is about the supporting nutrients:

> >

> > We shop weekly at our organic market and buy sea buckthorn sirup made from

> > raw berries and honey, have several drinks daily with mineral water.

> > (Vitamin C)

> >

> > We eat raw garlic daily added to all sorts of food, also cook with it

> > (Selenium)

> >

> > We use unrefined salt from the carpatian mountains

> >

> > Eat bone broth daily (not sure about its magnesium content?), and I will

add

> > chard now spring comes.

> >

> > Do you think I shoul add the supporting nutrients in tablet form, or is a

> > balanced traditional diet good enough so support the iodine protocol??

> >

> > Thanks for any thoughts!

> >

> > Eva in Budapest

> >

> > Turi Nagy Éva

> >

> > _____

> >

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March 9, 2012

It’s not

MY guide Grizz, it was put out there by our Naturopath that owns this list and

I don’t think you should EVER stop taking the nutrients as long as you’re

taking the Iodine.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of grizz003

Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012

2:33 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: supporting

nutrients: supplements or food?

Bonnie,

When is it safe to stop taking the supporting nutrients? Are we safe when the

Iodine Loading Test is > 90% and the Bromide test is good? Then at that

point it we can drop down to 24mg daily and no more supporting nutrients? I

looked for the answer in your " Guide to supplementing with iodine, "

to no avail.

many thanks,

Grizz

>

> Hi Eva:

>

> You can depend on your diet for good health in general but when you're

doing

> the Iodine Protocol you need ALL the supporting nutrients plus the Sea

Salt

> to help with detoxing.

>

> Bonnie

>

> _____

>

> From: iodine

[mailto:iodine ]

On Behalf Of

> Turi Nagy Éva

> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:42 AM

> iodine

> Subject: supporting nutrients: supplements or food?

>

> Dear all!

>

> My next question is about the supporting nutrients:

>

> We shop weekly at our organic market and buy sea buckthorn sirup made from

> raw berries and honey, have several drinks daily with mineral water.

> (Vitamin C)

>

> We eat raw garlic daily added to all sorts of food, also cook with it

> (Selenium)

>

> We use unrefined salt from the carpatian mountains

>

> Eat bone broth daily (not sure about its magnesium content?), and I will

add

> chard now spring comes…

>

> Do you think I shoul add the supporting nutrients in tablet form, or is a

> balanced traditional diet good enough so support the iodine protocol??

>

> Thanks for any thoughts!

>

> Eva in Budapest

>

> Turi Nagy Éva

>

> _____

>

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March 9, 2012

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Buist, ND HC <stephaniebnd@...> wrote:

Â

So the short answer to your question is yes - you will need iodine and the companion nutrients for life.Â Our food is very low in nutrients - even organic is struggling to maintain good levels.Â To obtain and assured amount of the needed nutrients you would have a difficult time.As I am an advocate of real food, would it be beneficial to also include food rich in the companion nutrients along with the nutrients? The reason why I ask this is because is because food has factors which nutrients lack. After all it's impossible to duplicate what mother nature does?

Olushola

March 9, 2012

Olushola:

None of us

KNOWS exactly what our bodies can EXTRACT from our diet. Everyone’s rate absorption

is different and even different on different days and days of the month. We

just don’t know what stresses our body is dealing with at any given moment.

AND using

supplements takes the stress from the body of having to manufacture everything

you need.

They assist the

Iodine to do it’s job. In my case, I research the supplements and make sure I’m

getting the very best ones I can find.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of olushola camara

Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 6:44

PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Re:

supporting nutrients: supplements or food?

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Buist, ND HC <stephaniebnd@...> wrote:

So the short answer to your question is yes - you will need iodine

and the companion nutrients for life. Our food is very low in nutrients -

even organic is struggling to maintain good levels. To obtain and assured

amount of the needed nutrients you would have a difficult time.

As I am an advocate of real food, would it be beneficial to also include food

rich in the companion nutrients along with the nutrients? The reason why I ask

this is because is because food has factors which nutrients lack. After all

it's impossible to duplicate what mother nature does?

Olushola

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March 9, 2012

I too love the idea of getting my nutrients from food and I try to eat a nutrient dense diet. Where there are items that are needed for supportive nature like selenium and magnesium I am going to supplement. But I also want to ensure that my food is high in them. You are correct - there are enzymes and components of food that we will never understand that are able to do more in the body than a supplement will. So it is a balance.

Buist, ND HC

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of olushola camaraSent: Friday, March 09, 2012 6:44 PMiodine Subject: Re: Re: supporting nutrients: supplements or food?

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Buist, ND HC <stephaniebnd@...> wrote:

So the short answer to your question is yes - you will need iodine and the companion nutrients for life. Our food is very low in nutrients - even organic is struggling to maintain good levels. To obtain and assured amount of the needed nutrients you would have a difficult time.

As I am an advocate of real food, would it be beneficial to also include food rich in the companion nutrients along with the nutrients? The reason why I ask this is because is because food has factors which nutrients lack. After all it's impossible to duplicate what mother nature does?Olushola

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March 9, 2012

And in the case of iodine, the supplements help keep things in balance. in AlaskaOn Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote: