a few questions

[Guest guest]

I need to answer Saul's nice letter about antioxidants, but the brain is

not that far into gear yet.

A couple of things I have been thinking about--

1. Would alum from crystal deodorant be harmful? Does it work for

chemically sensitives?

2. I imagine it would be a good idea for humans to homeopathically detox

from vaccines? Debbie's post on dogs made me think of that. I have a

question about homeopathy from something I read on the Quackwatch list,

but I'll ask it later when I figure it out! That NCAHF site is pretty

lame.

3. Would saw palmetto be useful as a kidney tonic (unisex) and do

anything to help alleviate dehydration? J.

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

1) Alum is a coy way of saying aluminum (or aluminium if you're British). IT

IS TOXIC.

Used in deodorant IT IS A MAJOR CAUSE OF BREAST CANCER. Don't use it !

Deodorant crystals are available without the alum(inum).

2) Vaccines are toxic, containing formaldehyde, mercury, monkey fetus

tissue, etc.

DON'T TAKE THEM ! They have been proven, in the few studies that have ever

been done, to offer zero protection, and actually cause the diseases they

were

supposed to prevent.

3) For kidneys, your #1 supplement is flax oil and lots of it. I haven't

heard of saw palmetto

being used for what you describe. Anybody?

Drink 6 - 8 glasses of water per day with 2 drops of Concentrace liquid

trace minerals in it.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

email: saul@...

" The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created

them " . - Einstein

Re: A Few Questions

> I need to answer Saul's nice letter about antioxidants, but the brain is

> not that far into gear yet.

> A couple of things I have been thinking about--

>

> 1. Would alum from crystal deodorant be harmful? Does it work for

> chemically sensitives?

>

> 2. I imagine it would be a good idea for humans to homeopathically detox

> from vaccines? Debbie's post on dogs made me think of that. I have a

> question about homeopathy from something I read on the Quackwatch list,

> but I'll ask it later when I figure it out! That NCAHF site is pretty

> lame.

>

> 3. Would saw palmetto be useful as a kidney tonic (unisex) and do

> anything to help alleviate dehydration? J.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Alan welcome to the group.

> Is there anyway to limit the emails or do all of you endure the

same?

You can either:

1) limit the amount of incoming emails by changing the amount of

incoming message recvd in your mail account. You will get them all,

they just won't all show up on the same page at once.

2) Change to digetst form. You will get all the emails but you will

get them in several digests throughout the day.

3) Change your subscription to 'Web-Only' and read all the mail on the

site.

> I also have a question about the Myoplex. I bought the powdered

kind

> and I think there is 20 packets in a box. I have been using 1

packet

> for a serving and it seems like a lot. Can anyone tell me if I am

> making a mistake.

I am guessing you are taking the Regular Myoplex (us girls usually use

the Lite) and I know that the Regular Myoplex is bigger (2.5 oz in 16

oz water) If I'm not mistaken. As far as I know, if you are a male,

you will need the extra calories. The Lite is 2oz in 12 oz water and I

take the whole bag. I do have some Myoplex Deluxe and with that I only

take 3/4 the bag, the whole bag is WAY too many calories for me as a

woman.

I wanted to figure out what weight I would need to use and

get a

> feel for the food routine. Anyhow I am looking forward to Monday

> morning.

This is going to be a trial an error thing for you. Only you know your

own strength. I'm sure you are able to lift more than me. But if you

start out with a weight and you seem to breeze thru the first rep, up

it. If you feel you can't finish the rep, go down a few pounds. No

one can tell you where to start. Just start and you will figure out

your own needs. It is really not that hard.

Good Luck.

Liz

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Hi Alan,

Well I find that the pre-mixed leaves a metal taste in my mouth

the packaged ones are on the thick side and I drink the

Myoplex Lite...so try blending it for only a VERY short period of time

(less air) or let it sit for a few minutes to thin out. For the best results I

use a shaker thing..you know..the cup with the special spout-like thing

as if you were making a martini.

Good luck,

V

[Guest guest]

martbradley wrote:

> The Low Carb RTD

> does not equal a portion so does that mean that I eat an additional

> carb with the RTD Low Carb? It's a bit confusing. I'd appreciate

> any advice - thanks!!

I don't know anything about supplements since I don't use any but yes, if the

carbs are below what you should be getting in a meal, eat a piece of fruit

Serenity

[Guest guest]

Thanks - I'll have to start eating a carb with the RTD shake.

kuranes <kuranes@...> wrote:

martbradley wrote:

> The Low Carb RTD

> does not equal a portion so does that mean that I eat an additional

> carb with the RTD Low Carb? It's a bit confusing. I'd appreciate

> any advice - thanks!!

I don't know anything about supplements since I don't use any but yes, if the

carbs are below what you should be getting in a meal, eat a piece of fruit

Serenity

[Guest guest]

I have a few questions- would the HGH procedure apply to someone who's

deteriation/poor tracking is behind the kneecap, not necessarily where the

knee joint meets the bone? Also, does anyone have trouble with just

standing- that seems to be the most aggravating thing for my knee. We have

tile kitchen floors and I am wanting to look into a padded rug for the places

I stand the most. Does anyone have info. where to get something like that?

Thanks! Jen

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much Doug! Actually, I have an appointment with a muscularsketatal

dr. in a couple weeks. He deals with pain management and nonsurgical

approaches to orth. problems. I am very curious to hear what he has to say!

I am wondering what your opinion is on orthodics? My PT recommended them and

am going to inquire about them with this dr. I am going to try sneakers in

our kitchen- I wear my running shoes all of the time outside of the house so

I will try them in the house. Jen

[Guest guest]

I believe you can get any padded rug from Walmart. If not I think you can buy

some carpet foam padding from a carpet store and put a rug on top of it

jkraus5@... wrote: I have a few questions- would the HGH procedure apply

to someone who's

deteriation/poor tracking is behind the kneecap, not necessarily where the

knee joint meets the bone? Also, does anyone have trouble with just

standing- that seems to be the most aggravating thing for my knee. We have

tile kitchen floors and I am wanting to look into a padded rug for the places

I stand the most. Does anyone have info. where to get something like that?

Thanks! Jen

[Guest guest]

Jen:

The HGH injections apparently grow cartilage wherever it has been

worn away, including behind the kneecap.

What you (and everyone) has to remember is that any alignment or

imbalance problem(s) you have should be fixed first. Back to

the " rusty hinge " post I put up a few weeks ago, you've got to fix

the leaky roof, not just scrape the rust off the hinge. If your knee

is still disfuctional, repairing the cartilage will only fix the

problem temporarily. Remember, something caused your cartilage to

wear away.

As far as the standing goes, maybe a nice, new pair of running shoes

would help.

- Doug

dougfromct2002@...

> I have a few questions- would the HGH procedure apply to someone

who's

> deteriation/poor tracking is behind the kneecap, not necessarily

where the

> knee joint meets the bone? Also, does anyone have trouble with

just

> standing- that seems to be the most aggravating thing for my knee.

We have

> tile kitchen floors and I am wanting to look into a padded rug for

the places

> I stand the most. Does anyone have info. where to get something

like that?

> Thanks! Jen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jen:

I don't know much about orthotics, but I will tell you my experience

with them because I think it's helpful.

My hips were out of alignment making one leg longer than the other.

One PT said I could have a custom orthotic made to even out the

legs. Turns out my hips were out of alignment and that is what

caused the leg-length discrepancy. A second PT found the hip

problem, fixed it, and now my legs are the same length. She told me

that if I had gotten an orthotic for the shorter leg, it would have

made the problem even worse.

I don't know if that helps, but you get the point. Make sure you've

got a good doctor who can really figure out what your problem is

before you do anything.

Good luck with the new doc and let us know how it goes,

Doug

> Thanks so much Doug! Actually, I have an appointment with a

muscularsketatal

> dr. in a couple weeks. He deals with pain management and

nonsurgical

> approaches to orth. problems. I am very curious to hear what he

has to say!

> I am wondering what your opinion is on orthodics? My PT

recommended them and

> am going to inquire about them with this dr. I am going to try

sneakers in

> our kitchen- I wear my running shoes all of the time outside of the

house so

> I will try them in the house. Jen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

After 15 or so years wearing them I'd recommend orthotics.

As Doug says they have to used and fitted correctly & they are

not a cure all.

However, they kept my knee problems at bay for many years and my brother

still has no problems.

Another thing to stress is your shoes/sneakers. Make sure they are properly

supporting you, that they are not overly worn (take them to be repaired).

Sneakers (trainers over here) are a funny thing, it's hard to tell just

by looking at them that they're worn out, the foamy sole losses its strength

without looking worn. Basically if in doubt repair or replace them. YOU CAN

DO SO MUCH DAMAGE TO YOUR JOINTS WITH BAD FOOTWEAR!!!! Orthotics will do no

good at all with bad footwear. One thing to look out for with running shoes

is to find a pair that are " anti-pronation " (check with your Musculo Doc that

pronation is your problem), you can get them from specialist running shops,

(runners often suffer from this problem) who will know exacly what you are

talking about. (A good set of shops in the UK is Run & Become in London &

Cardiff, they REALLY know what they are talking about). I can't run, but a

recent new set of proper running shoes really helped my walking!

Cheers

Steve

>===== Original Message From jkraus5@... =====

>Thanks so much Doug! Actually, I have an appointment with a muscularsketatal

>dr. in a couple weeks. He deals with pain management and nonsurgical

>approaches to orth. problems. I am very curious to hear what he has to say!

>I am wondering what your opinion is on orthodics? My PT recommended them and

>am going to inquire about them with this dr. I am going to try sneakers in

>our kitchen- I wear my running shoes all of the time outside of the house so

>I will try them in the house. Jen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/17/02 8:13:27 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

hudecz@... writes:

> I would like a doctor who knows more than I do or as much as I do & comes

> to me with things for me to try....the current doctor I have is nice &

> understanding but not the type who is aggressively trying to help me! Any

> suggestions out there?

,

Wouldn't we all like that? Sometimes, from what I have heard here, I am

thankful I couldn't afford medical care. (My basic stuff-broken bones

pneumonia, bladder infection etc is covered.) I could have gotten the b12

years earlier, but then...all those failed experiments that people report?

Shudder. Doctors are very definitely a mixed blessing.

Adrienne

[Guest guest]

From: FlowerMommi@...

Subject: A few questions

First off...for those of you whose child has DS and good head

control,

did any of you use a Baby Bjorn? I'm thinking about getting one for

Hana. She loves to be held facing out and is able to keep her head

up

and stable for long periods. Second, my mom mentioned last night

that

maybe we should check and see about taking Hana's bouncey seat to the

hospital. The paperwork talked of bringing favorite toys, pacifiers,

etc. for the childs comfort. She loves her little seat. It's one of

those Kick & Play where it lights up. Third, dang it. I can't

remember

Christie,

Hi - I think the bouncy seat is a good idea - maybe Hana can't use it right

away, but post-op I'll bet she could, I know the Children's Hosp. here in

Columbus OH would not mind. Lots of times the hospital has baby equipment, i.e.

swing, seat, but you can't count on it being available all the time.

Olivia did not develop head good head control up until a few months ago, I

haven't considered using an outward-facing baby carrier. Actually, I am

borrowing my sis-in-law's stroller/buggy, because Livi loves to look at whoever

has her, even if it means cranking her neck and head waaay back to see! So this

stroller faces the baby toward the person pushing.

Hope all goes well with the surgery - Olivia had her VSD fixed in January, at 6

months. If I can help with anyhting else, let me know -

Patty in Ohio -

mom of 4, including Olivia Rose, who is almost one (July 14)!

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Thanks Patty! I didn't want to run into one not being available. I

mean, how do I walk up to another parent using a hospital bouncy seat and

let them know that HANA needs it? LOL. How was Olivia's recovery?

Christie

*Momi* of Sara 9, Sabaa 6, Alia 5, Hana 3 mos (DS/AV Canal Defect

scheduled to be repaired July 31st) and Lily the cat!!!

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Patty Derdzinski

<pderdzinski@...> writes:Hi

Lots of times the hospital has baby equipment, i.e. swing, seat, but you

can't count on it being available all the time.

Hope all goes well with the surgery - Olivia had her VSD fixed in

January, at 6 months. If I can help with anyhting else, let me know -

[Guest guest]

Olivia has had 4 surgeries, and lots of (I forget how many) hosppital stays,

but for the heart surgery, she did extremely well. She came home after only 7

days - that was the minimum stay predicted by dr.s, and in early May the

cardiologists examining her could not hear even a murmur from her heart. She is

still small, but she is finally growing.

How old will Hana be on 7/31, when the surgery is scheduled?

I saw the pics of your kids, they are adorable! Hana looks great - does she have

any other issues besides the AV canal?

Patty in OH -

mom of , 18; , 5; , 3; and Olivia - 1 whole year old on

July 14!

flowermommi@... wrote: Thanks Patty! I didn't want to run into one not

being available. I mean, how do I walk up to another parent using a hospital

bouncy seat and let them know that HANA needs it? LOL. How was Olivia's

recovery?

Christie

*Momi* of Sara 9, Sabaa 6, Alia 5, Hana 3 mos (DS/AV Canal Defect scheduled to

be repaired July 31st) and Lily the cat!!! On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:37:09 -0700

(PDT) Patty Derdzinski <pderdzinski@...> writes:Hi Lots of times the

hospital has baby equipment, i.e. swing, seat, but you can't count on it being

available all the time. Hope all goes well with the surgery - Olivia had her VSD

fixed in January, at 6 months. If I can help with anyhting else, let me know -

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty...Hana will be 4 1/2 months old when she has her surgery. Man,

4 surgeries in less than a year? How do these sweet babies do it? At

this point AV Canal is all we are dealing with with Hana. Thanks be to

God. Of course you never know when something is going to " pop " up.

Here's hoping nothing ever does. What all has Olivia been battling?

Thanks for the compliment on the girls. They're a group of knuckleheads

I tell ya.

Christie

*Momi* of Sara 9, Sabaa 6, Alia 5, Hana 3 mos (DS/AV Canal Defect

scheduled to be repaired July 31st) and Lily the cat!!!

On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Patty Derdzinski

<pderdzinski@...> writes:

Olivia has had 4 surgeries, and lots of (I forget how many) hosppital

stays, but for the heart surgery, she did extremely well. She came home

after only 7 days - that was the minimum stay predicted by dr.s, and in

early May the cardiologists examining her could not hear even a murmur

from her heart. She is still small, but she is finally growing.

How old will Hana be on 7/31, when the surgery is scheduled?

I saw the pics of your kids, they are adorable! Hana looks great - does

she have any other issues besides the AV canal?

Patty in OH -

[Guest guest]

Hi Christie!

Olivia was born with duodenal atresia, which required surgery soon after birth.

The docs held off until she was 3 days old, cause they saw some suspicious

seizure-like activity, they put her on phenobarbitol, later she was weaned from

it.

We took her home at around 4 weeks - 2 days later she was back in the hosp

because a section of her duodenum had constricted, a complication of that

initial surgery. Although, at the time I was convinced it was because we had her

home and had done something wrong! She spent another week in the hospital.

She seemed to be in the hospital every other week, with respiratory infections,

high fevers, labored breathing - this was fall/winter too, her first flu season

- when finally (in desperation) I posted to this list, this is what others who

had been through it before reassured me.

Then, she had her heart repair on January 8. She got sick again in Feb., and

though she recovered she couldn't come off of oxygen - it got complicated, but

the dr.s eventually decided to do a nissen (wrap the top part of the stomach so

she couldn't reflux anymore), and remove tonsils and adenoids. This has really

seemed to make a huge difference for her, in terms of feeding, and she has

slowly started to gain weight. I forgot to mention, she has a gtube as a result

of the duodenal atresia. She eats by mouth a little bit of baby food each day,

but mostly receives Similac w/iron thru the gtube. In spite of all these

setbacks, Olivia has a sweet disposition, smiles frequently, hardly ever

cries...our babies are so brave, and resilient, I am amazed at times. But I

suppose we better save our energy for the school years - IEPs, puberty,

driving...!!

flowermommi@... wrote:Hi Patty...Hana will be 4 1/2 months old when she

has her surgery. Man, 4 surgeries in less than a year? How do these sweet

babies do it? At this point AV Canal is all we are dealing with with Hana.

Thanks be to God. Of course you never know when something is going to " pop " up.

Here's hoping nothing ever does. What all has Olivia been battling? Thanks for

the compliment on the girls. They're a group of knuckleheads I tell ya.

Christie

*Momi* of Sara 9, Sabaa 6, Alia 5, Hana 3 mos (DS/AV Canal Defect scheduled to

be repaired July 31st) and Lily the cat!!!

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the message, - so your daughter is fine now? Olivia's hole

was quite big, the surgeon likened it to the size of a nickel, in a heart the

size of a plum. Plus there was a smaller one as well. I am so thankful for

advances in medicine - Olivia would not have made it to her first bday without

some of the surgeries she had...and she is such a joy to us :-)

Patty in OH-

mom of 4 - including Olivia, a big ONE on July 14!

or Micklo wrote:I must have missed the first messages about

Hanna.

When is the surgery? Our daughter (who is now 8) had VSD repaired at 5

months old at Riley in Indianapolis. I'm sure they would have welcomed the

bouncy seat (I'm not sure they even made them then--at least we didn't have

one!).

She spent 10 days in the hospital. We were scared to death to bring such a

fragile baby home. The doctors assured us that she would recooperate at

home better than in the hospital. We walked in the door of our apartment

and her eyes lit up and she perked right up! She was SO glad to be home.

Good luck!!

mom to Brytani who will attend her first summer camp at Riley next week. 5

whole days!!!!!

A few questions

>

>

> First off...for those of you whose child has DS and good head

> control,

> did any of you use a Baby Bjorn? I'm thinking about getting one for

> Hana. She loves to be held facing out and is able to keep her head

> up

> and stable for long periods. Second, my mom mentioned last night

> that

> maybe we should check and see about taking Hana's bouncey seat to the

> hospital. The paperwork talked of bringing favorite toys, pacifiers,

> etc. for the childs comfort. She loves her little seat. It's one of

> those Kick & Play where it lights up. Third, dang it. I can't

> remember

>

>

> Christie,

>

> Hi - I think the bouncy seat is a good idea - maybe Hana can't use it

right away, but post-op I'll bet she could, I know the Children's Hosp. here

in Columbus OH would not mind. Lots of times the hospital has baby

equipment, i.e. swing, seat, but you can't count on it being available all

the time.

>

> Olivia did not develop head good head control up until a few months ago, I

haven't considered using an outward-facing baby carrier. Actually, I am

borrowing my sis-in-law's stroller/buggy, because Livi loves to look at

whoever has her, even if it means cranking her neck and head waaay back to

see! So this stroller faces the baby toward the person pushing.

>

> Hope all goes well with the surgery - Olivia had her VSD fixed in January,

at 6 months. If I can help with anyhting else, let me know -

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Patty in Ohio -

>

> mom of 4, including Olivia Rose, who is almost one (July 14)!

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, this has me afraid, very afraid! I have 4 girls!!! LOL! It's

heartbreaking to know what Olivia and so many other children have been

through. We are so fortunate to live when there are answers and

treatments for alot of what we are facing.

Christie

*Momi* of Sara 9, Sabaa 6, Alia 5, Hana 3 mos (DS/AV Canal Defect

scheduled to be repaired July 31st) and Lily the cat!!!

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Patty Derdzinski

<pderdzinski@...> writes:

But I suppose we better save our energy for the school years - IEPs,

puberty, driving...!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/3/02 12:32:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

pderdzinski@... writes:

> Olivia was born with duodenal atresia, which required surgery soon after

> birth. The docs held off until she was 3 days old, cause they saw some

> suspicious seizure-like activity, they put her on phenobarbitol, later she

> was weaned from it.

> We took her home at around 4 weeks - 2 days later she was back in the hosp

> because a section of her duodenum had constricted, a complication of that

> initial surgery. Although, at the time I was convinced it was because we

> had her home and had done something wrong! She spent another week in the

> hospital.

>

Vickie's was duodenal stenosis..... which is just a constriction of that

area.... in fact the doc's told me that there was only a 2-3 mm hole through

which her food was getting into her lower intestine.... and that since breast

milk was thinner then formula it is why it went so long until discovery....

this was not diagnosed until she was 7 weeks old.... and it was just because

the gi doc we took her too said she had an upper gi done for every baby that

was throwing up and rarely was there anything wrong though there was more of

a chance since she had Down syndrome.... I still remember that day... going

into the city with vickie in a sling... we took the train and walked a couple

of blocks to the children's hospital.... when we finally got into the

radiologist, she let me stay and then showed me the xray as it was

happening.... said here is her swallowing and we see good action down the

throat... she is her stomach... and here is the ........ " do you happen to

have your doctor's number with you?? " " that was the start of 25 days

straight at the hospital, with 3 surgeries in 11 days.... I remember being

so confused and scared during that time but children's hospital in

philadelphia has a library with internet access for the use of the

families... I remember posting to the list from there and getting all kinds

of support.... stopped by and visited vickie and someone from

another state called up and just talked to me.... I would have been so lost

without this support....

Ann

Wife to Webb since 4/84

Mom to Webb since 1/91 (nda) and since 6/00 (d/s)

[Guest guest]

I'm glad you found the group and such wonderful people to help you

through this. The seven days Hana spent in the hospital were horrible.

I can't imagine a stay of 25 days. :*(

Christie

*Momi* of Sara 9, Sabaa 6, Alia 5, Hana 3 mos (DS/AV Canal Defect

scheduled to be repaired July 31st) and Lily the cat!!!

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:15:53 EDT Ann@... writes:

> that was the start of 25

> days

> straight at the hospital, with 3 surgeries in 11 days.... I

> remember being

> so confused and scared during that time but children's hospital in

> philadelphia has a library with internet access for the use of the

> families... I remember posting to the list from there and getting

> all kinds

> of support.... stopped by and visited vickie and someone

> from

> another state called up and just talked to me.... I would have been

> so lost

> without this support....

>

> Ann

> Wife to Webb since 4/84

> Mom to Webb since 1/91 (nda) and since 6/00 (d/s)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/25/02 8:56:37 AM Central Daylight Time,

klrobinson18@... writes:

> i havent told them about the stills

> for the reason that i know there will be other people applying and they

> might

> use this to discriminate.

Dear Kate -

I think you are right to be concerned and right to not say anything. Unless

the Still's is going to keep you from being able to do the work and you are

asking for some protection under the Americans With Disabilities Act, it is

really none of their business. Just be sure in looking for jobs that you

don't take one that is going to be physically too stressful.

Good luck on the hunt.

Marcia

[Guest guest]

Hi Kate,

I took Methotrexate (pill form) about 10 years ago or so and I too did not

find any difference while being on it. Not sure how long I was on this drug

for, could have been a year, but not sure. So don't worry, if this is the

case then you are not the only one it hasn't worked for but I do hope that

it will work for you in time. Perhaps you need to take another drug with it

to feel it's full potential?

Take care,

Marilyn

mhogg69@...

----Original Message Follows----

From: klrobinson18@...

Reply-Stillsdisease

stillsdisease

Subject: a few questions

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:55:52 EDT

Hi everyone - its question time again, if thats ok!

- Does anyone know if its possible to just not react to MTX? Ive been on

it

nearly 3 months now and my pred dose has been the same for nearly 2 months

and im not seeing any improvement with the added MTX. Ive been eager to see

a difference, or am i just being impatient? lol.

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Marisa,

I used to recommend patients take a B Complex as well, but I couldn't find anything to support the need for it. They seem to be getting enough with the multivitamin, especially if they stay on chewables.

Based on a study out of Obesity Surgery, I recommend 1.5 g/kg IBW once patients consume most of their protein through food since all the protein in food is no longer absorbed due to incomplete gastric juice secretion.

Kate Alie, M.S., R.D., L.D. Director of Nutrition Services Medabolix 400 Court Street Suite 203 ton, WV 25301 (304) 347-4317 (304) 347-4316 (fax)>From: moore_marisa@... >Reply- > >Subject: A few questions >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:01:30 -0500 > >I'm sure some of these things have been addressed before but I am just >wondering: > >We recommend supplementation of iron for menstruating women, a complete >multivitamin and B complex, 1000-1200mg calcium, B12 and protein >supplementation from .8(maintenance) - 1.2g/kg (immediately post-op). > >What are you all recommending? > >Marisa , RD.LD. > >Dekalb Medical Center Outpatient Diabetes Education >2701 North Decatur Road >Decatur, GA 30033 >PHONE (404) 501-5398 FAX (404) 501-1773 >moore_marisa@... > >************************************************************************************ >This communication, including any attachments, is confidential and may be >legally privileged. Access to this e-mail or its content, in whole or in >part via any method or medium, by anyone other than the intended recipient >is unauthorized. If you received this message in error, please contact the >sender and permanently delete the original from any computer and destroy >any printout thereof. > >DeKalb Regional Healthcare System, 2701 North Decatur Rd., Decatur, >Georgia, 30033, USA, http://www.drhs.org >************************************************************************************ High-speed users—be more efficient online with the new MSN Premium Internet Software.