Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 5% simply meand that you have 5 grams of iodine crystals per 100 ml of solution. So for a liter (1000ml) you would have ten times as much or 50 grams of iodine crystals in a liter of 5% lugols. doug did I really get 5% Lugol's?? Hi all! I am really excited! After 2 weeks of asking here and getting help and looking for where to order on the internet, I suddenly thought I phone the wife of a friend working at the local drug store. I asked whether I could buy half a liter of Lugol’s 5%, and she said not that many, because she has not that much kalium iodide in the store at the moment. She asked what 5% meant, I guessed it meant 5% of iodide and iodine measured to the distilled water. She said that’s the double they usually do, but she can do it… So I got it here already, it says: 10’000 gr Iodum (iodine) 20’000 gr kalii idodidum (kalium iodide) 170’000 gr aqua purificata (distilled water) I am really bad at arithmetics, but is that not 7, 5%??? Or does the 5% mean sth else? Can anybody help??? Thanks a lot! Eva in Budapest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I understand, so I really got 5%, and 10’000 g is really 10.000! Got it! Thank you! Eva in Budapest From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of polo Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:31 PM iodine Subject: Re: did I really get 5% Lugol's?? 5% simply meand that you have 5 grams of iodine crystals per 100 ml of solution. So for a liter (1000ml) you would have ten times as much or 50 grams of iodine crystals in a liter of 5% lugols. doug did I really get 5% Lugol's?? Hi all! I am really excited! After 2 weeks of asking here and getting help and looking for where to order on the internet, I suddenly thought I phone the wife of a friend working at the local drug store. I asked whether I could buy half a liter of Lugol’s 5%, and she said not that many, because she has not that much kalium iodide in the store at the moment. She asked what 5% meant, I guessed it meant 5% of iodide and iodine measured to the distilled water. She said that’s the double they usually do, but she can do it… So I got it here already, it says: 10’000 gr Iodum (iodine) 20’000 gr kalii idodidum (kalium iodide) 170’000 gr aqua purificata (distilled water) I am really bad at arithmetics, but is that not 7, 5%??? Or does the 5% mean sth else? Can anybody help??? Thanks a lot! Eva in Budapest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Hi The math to figure your % with Lugol's solution is to add the grams of all the ingredients, then calculate the fraction of the iodine over the total grams. So here, you would add 10,000 gr Iodine 20,000 gr Potassium Iodide 170,000 gr water The total is 200,000 grams. 10,000 divided by 200,000 = .05. So it is 5%. Karyn > > Hi all! > > I am really excited! > > > > After 2 weeks of asking here and getting help and looking for where to order > on the internet, I suddenly thought I phone the wife of a friend working at > the local drug store. > > I asked whether I could buy half a liter of Lugol's 5%, and she said not > that many, because she has not that much kalium iodide in the store at the > moment. > > She asked what 5% meant, I guessed it meant 5% of iodide and iodine measured > to the distilled water. She said that's the double they usually do, but she > can do it. > > > > So I got it here already, it says: > > > > 10'000 gr Iodum (iodine) > > 20'000 gr kalii idodidum (kalium iodide) > > 170'000 gr aqua purificata (distilled water) > > > > I am really bad at arithmetics, but is that not 7, 5%??? > > Or does the 5% mean sth else? > > > > Can anybody help??? > > > > Thanks a lot! > > > > Eva in Budapest > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 No, don't think that is right. The Potassium Iodide is not really considered in a 5% solution of lugols, only the iodine crystals. A percentage solution is figured by grams added per 100 ml, so to make a 5% solution, one would add 5 grams of solute to a 100ml beaker, then add only enough water to bring the water level to 100 ml with the dry chemicals in place. You would be using less than 100ml of water to get the 5%. To analyze your formula of 10,000 gr of iodine to 170,000 grams of water. Lets do some conversions. 1 gram of water = 1 ml of water. Thus we are talking about 170,000 ml of water. 100 ml goes into 170,000 ml at approx 1700 times. Thus you would need to multiply 1700 x 5 grams = 8500 grams of iodine crystals to make a 5% solution. NOT 10,000 grams! Also, it is important to consider that one would first add the 8500 grams of iodine and the 17,000 grams of KI to a container, than only enough water to come up to a 170,000 ml mark, if such a mark existed in such a large beaker. So, actually, it would take less than 170,000ml of water as the dry chemicals take up space in the solution, reducing the amount of water needed. Lastly, from a 1905 edition of THE PHARMACOPEIA OF THE UNITED STATES, the following formula for 5% Lugols is given: Iodine..............5 gm Potassium Iodide.................10 gm distilled water.....................add a sufficent quantity to make 100 ml. (or grams) doug Re: did I really get 5% Lugol's?? > Hi > > The math to figure your % with Lugol's solution is to add the grams of all > the ingredients, then calculate the fraction of the iodine over the total > grams. > > So here, you would add > > 10,000 gr Iodine > 20,000 gr Potassium Iodide > 170,000 gr water > > The total is 200,000 grams. 10,000 divided by 200,000 = .05. > > So it is 5%. > > Karyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Dear Doug, I think the confusion is about the , and . signs. People, nations use those differently I realised, that they had meant originally: 10g iodine 20g potassium iodide 170g=ml distilled water So we are right with 5%, aren’t we? Eva in Budapest From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of polo Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:57 PM iodine Subject: Re: Re: did I really get 5% Lugol's?? No, don't think that is right. The Potassium Iodide is not really considered in a 5% solution of lugols, only the iodine crystals. A percentage solution is figured by grams added per 100 ml, so to make a 5% solution, one would add 5 grams of solute to a 100ml beaker, then add only enough water to bring the water level to 100 ml with the dry chemicals in place. You would be using less than 100ml of water to get the 5%. To analyze your formula of 10,000 gr of iodine to 170,000 grams of water. Lets do some conversions. 1 gram of water = 1 ml of water. Thus we are talking about 170,000 ml of water. 100 ml goes into 170,000 ml at approx 1700 times. Thus you would need to multiply 1700 x 5 grams = 8500 grams of iodine crystals to make a 5% solution. NOT 10,000 grams! Also, it is important to consider that one would first add the 8500 grams of iodine and the 17,000 grams of KI to a container, than only enough water to come up to a 170,000 ml mark, if such a mark existed in such a large beaker. So, actually, it would take less than 170,000ml of water as the dry chemicals take up space in the solution, reducing the amount of water needed. Lastly, from a 1905 edition of THE PHARMACOPEIA OF THE UNITED STATES, the following formula for 5% Lugols is given: Iodine..............5 gm Potassium Iodide.................10 gm distilled water.....................add a sufficent quantity to make 100 ml. (or grams) doug Re: did I really get 5% Lugol's?? > Hi > > The math to figure your % with Lugol's solution is to add the grams of all > the ingredients, then calculate the fraction of the iodine over the total > grams. > > So here, you would add > > 10,000 gr Iodine > 20,000 gr Potassium Iodide > 170,000 gr water > > The total is 200,000 grams. 10,000 divided by 200,000 = .05. > > So it is 5%. > > Karyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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