Guest guest Posted October 17, 2000 Report Share Posted October 17, 2000 Dear , My inclination is to getting nutrition from food, because that is the way the plumbing is designed. Anything that is swallowed without being chewed thoroughly is not mixed with ptyalin. Without ptyalin, the process of digestion is hampered from the word go. Concentrated products are not 'natural', even if they are from natural sources. Take olive oil. A great product. But if you eat 3 oz of olive oil at a sitting, how many olives is that? A lot. And you probably couldn't eat that many raw, non-preserved olives at a sitting. Same goes for orange juice, apple juice, etc. You couldn't, or wouldn't, eat the amount of oranges or apples that make up a glass of juice. So you are isolating one large element of fruit (or of the olive) and consuming a relatively large amount of it. Meanwhile, you chuck the pulp, yet it has half the nutrients that nature designed to be in there so it was wholesome for you. (Remember wholesome? Whole...wholistic...I don't like the spelling 'holistic'.) An orange has bioflavinoids under the peel that go hand in hand with the Vitamin C in the juicy fruit, which make the Vitamin C more available and more potent. A damn fine design. Which we screw up by isolating. This is a problem of the empirical method, which is woefully inadequate to study the world, since it can only deal with one variable. Actually, I can't think of a single part of the world that can be studied in isolation from everything else. This scientific reductionist way of looking at things in separateness has permeated food production and commercialization. Breaking down foods and concentrating them is about 75% of what the food industry does. And the food suffers for it. The more processing, the less vitamins, minerals, enzymes, etc. in our food. There is much said about depletion of minerals in our soils, the loss of humus, and the extinction of the earthworm. Not nearly enough is said, however, about the mad overprocessing our foods are subjected to, which steals from them (and us) the nutrients that they do have. And all because of the buck to be made. So we have food grown on depleted soil, and over processing removing the remaining nutrients. What to do? To the rescue come our friends in the supplement industry ($44 billion last year, thank you very much). The problem is, this is many times more expensive than eating nutritious food (and you have to eat anyway), and you are not eating actual food. Remember the ptyalin above? The only solution I can see is to grow your own food. That turns the clock back 100 years. And most people don't have the time. However, being sick takes up ALL of your time, so in the LONG RUN, it is better to spend some time growing decent food (maybe in a greenhouse, maybe hydroponically). I am fortunate to live in an area that has an enormous number of greenhouses growing food without chemicals. They are taking over the market, but have been slowed this fall by the high price of natural gas. This burns me up, because since NAFTA, natural gas prices have been hooked to oil prices, even though there is enough natural gas for 500 years. I am seeking to develop a hydrogen generator to market to the greenhouses, so they can continue to grow good food at a reasonable cost. I have rambled on and not answered all of your question. I will close by saying that Vitamins are not anti-oxidants (see my previous post) and I am in favor of taking Vitamins as follows: Vitamin A + D : halibut liver oil capsules, eggs, butter Vitamin B : brewer's yeast; blackstrap molasses; IP6; sublingual B12 Vitamin C : guava, red peppers, cantaloupe, strawberries Vitamin E : sunflower seeds, walnuts, tomatoes Vitamin K : blackstrap molasses; eggs; kelp Vitamin P : lemon juice, grapefruit quercitin : black tea I am not in favor of taking other antioxidants (see my previous post on why). Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them " . - Einstein Re: Anti-oxidants > Thanks to the list for Koch and anti-oxidant info. I have been > researching " maharishi amrit kalash " > (http://www.ayurveda.nl/english/infomak_e.html) and it says that it is > 1000 times more effective than C or E as an anti-oxidant and is > full-spectrum. It contains dozens of herbs. Saul, do you suppose > food-derived antioxidants such as this and things like pycnogenol are > not good to use or that they would not be good long-term? J. > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2000 Report Share Posted October 17, 2000 Deb, Have you tried Dr. BAtman's water protocol for dehydration? jim Debbie Mc wrote: > > Yea:), I have this dehydration thing going, with resultant(there I > go borrowing from the allopaths again) no normal tear, saliva, > etc, and so on .... I pray that ozone does some miracle for this > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Okay, I've started looking at the food I am eating. If I am going to do away with the foods containing bromide, what does that leave? I eat bread or waffle for breakfast. I cook a good bit. I just would like some ideas of how to go about eliminating bromide when possible, and still enjoy eating good tasting food. ThanksBetty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Hi Betty, It is very easy to avoid bromide in foods.The main sources are brominated flour in baked goods as well as brominated vegetable oil in citrus soft drinks, such as Mountain Dew. Citrus Gatorade also contains brominated vegetable oil. Methyl bromide is used as a pesticide for strawberries and other fruits. It's most important to try and eat as organic as possible, thereby avoiding toxic chemicals. Some breads are bromide free but one has to read labels very carefully to find them. Best, Kathleen moderator What to eat? Okay, I've started looking at the food I am eating. If I am going to do away with the foods containing bromide, what does that leave? I eat bread or waffle for breakfast. I cook a good bit. I just would like some ideas of how to go about eliminating bromide when possible, and still enjoy eating good tasting food. Thanks Betty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Is it just the bread that has bromide or is it also the flour you buy in the supermarket?len From: Kathleen Blake <kathleenblake@...> iodine Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:24 PM Subject: Re: What to eat? Hi Betty, It is very easy to avoid bromide in foods.The main sources are brominated flour in baked goods as well as brominated vegetable oil in citrus soft drinks, such as Mountain Dew. Citrus Gatorade also contains brominated vegetable oil. Methyl bromide is used as a pesticide for strawberries and other fruits. It's most important to try and eat as organic as possible, thereby avoiding toxic chemicals. Some breads are bromide free but one has to read labels very carefully to find them. Best, Kathleen moderator What to eat? Okay, I've started looking at the food I am eating. If I am going to do away with the foods containing bromide, what does that leave? I eat bread or waffle for breakfast. I cook a good bit. I just would like some ideas of how to go about eliminating bromide when possible, and still enjoy eating good tasting food. Thanks Betty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I looked on my bread sack and it said no bromate. I contacted the Gold Medal flour company. They said there is no bromine in the flour but the sack does not verify this info. Thank you for replying. Betty > > Unless the flour you buy says 'unbromated', it probably is bromated. King Arthur flour is labeled " Never Bromated " , for example. > Kathleen > moderator > What to eat? > > > > Okay, I've started looking at the food I am eating. If I am going to do away with the foods containing bromide, what does that leave? I eat bread or waffle for breakfast. I cook a good bit. I just would like some ideas of how to go about eliminating bromide when possible, and still enjoy eating good tasting food. Thanks > Betty > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Most of Gold Medal flours contain potassium bromate. Linn Moderator > > > > Unless the flour you buy says 'unbromated', it probably is bromated. King Arthur flour is labeled " Never Bromated " , for example. > > Kathleen > > moderator > > What to eat? > > > > > > > > Okay, I've started looking at the food I am eating. If I am going to do away with the foods containing bromide, what does that leave? I eat bread or waffle for breakfast. I cook a good bit. I just would like some ideas of how to go about eliminating bromide when possible, and still enjoy eating good tasting food. Thanks > > Betty > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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