Sleep Apnea

[Guest guest]

Hi. I'm just butting in here to talk about sleep apnea. I've got it. Went

through a sleep study that showed " malignant v-tach episodes " during sleep

when I stop breathing for short periods. The solution was a continuous

positive airway pressure (CPAP) mask. It fits over the nose and is attached

to an air pump. The sleep study will determine if you need one and what is

the optimum air pressure to stop the apnea. If you do go the CPAP route, be

sure to insist on a heated humidifier also. Otherwise, the CPAP will dry

out your air passages and sinuses and cause some pain and even an allergic

symptom during the day.

Mike

At 06:45 PM 6/8/01 -0500, you wrote:

>Janet ..

>

> >

> > me. I quit breathing for 30 second at a time during the night and

> > then gasp

> > for breath, I snore, toss and turn

>

> Yep, that's it, all right. Husband also has it. Weird.... his loud

>snoring doesn't bother me a

>bit. What wakes me up is the apnea. He exhales, then silence for about

>30 seconds like you

>said, then a gasp and a snort and resumes breathing/snoring again.

>Sometimes i poke or rub

>him to get him to breathe again. Scary.

> Pls. let us know what your sleep studies say, and what treatment if

>any is available, okay?

>Good luck to you.

> Sue

>

>--

> " She was not quite what you would call refined.

>She was not quite what you would call unrefined.

>She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. "

>-- Mark Twain

>

>Rich and Sue Owens

>http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/7457/index3.html

>

>

>

>Please visit the Zapper homepage at

>http://www.ZapLife.org

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi guys;

I have sleep apnea as well, should that be something I should worry about? I catch myself snorting and waking up is it a dangerous condition let me know cause I haven't been reading the responses recently.Good Luck and Good Heart. TURK

Re: Sleep apnea

Hi. I'm just butting in here to talk about sleep apnea. I've got it. Went through a sleep study that showed "malignant v-tach episodes" during sleep when I stop breathing for short periods. The solution was a continuous positive airway pressure (CPAP) mask. It fits over the nose and is attached to an air pump. The sleep study will determine if you need one and what is the optimum air pressure to stop the apnea. If you do go the CPAP route, be sure to insist on a heated humidifier also. Otherwise, the CPAP will dry out your air passages and sinuses and cause some pain and even an allergic symptom during the day.MikeAt 06:45 PM 6/8/01 -0500, you wrote:>Janet ..>> >> > me. I quit breathing for 30 second at a time during the night and> > then gasp> > for breath, I snore, toss and turn>> Yep, that's it, all right. Husband also has it. Weird.... his loud>snoring doesn't bother me a>bit. What wakes me up is the apnea. He exhales, then silence for about>30 seconds like you>said, then a gasp and a snort and resumes breathing/snoring again.>Sometimes i poke or rub>him to get him to breathe again. Scary.> Pls. let us know what your sleep studies say, and what treatment if>any is available, okay?>Good luck to you.> Sue>>-->"She was not quite what you would call refined.>She was not quite what you would call unrefined.>She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot.">-- Mark Twain>>Rich and Sue Owens>http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/7457/index3.html>>>>Please visit the Zapper homepage at>http://www.ZapLife.org>>

[Guest guest]

Turk,

Yes, sleep apnea can be dangerous. It also contributes to

arrhythmias. If you're experiencing sleep apnea, ask your primary

care physician for a referral to a sleep disorders clinic where they can

do a real-time evaluation of your condition. You'll spend the night at

the clinic hooked up to various monitoring machines and the techs will

record apneas and what it they are doing to your heart rate.

Mike

At 07:18 AM 6/9/01 -0400, you wrote:

Hi guys;

I have sleep apnea as well, should that be

something I should worry about? I catch myself snorting and waking up is

it a dangerous condition let me know cause I haven't been reading the

responses recently.Good Luck and Good Heart.

TURK

[Guest guest]

Hi Guys;

I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnea in December - it took 3 months to fight the

insurance for the CPAP machine.... My oxygen saturation level would drop to

91% - meaning " minimal " sleep apnea. But my Doctors were concerned because

of the heart condition! They fought with the insurance and I got the CPAP

machine. Sleep Apnea is hard on the heart because of the gasping and

sputtering, and not breathing... My study showed that I stopped breathing 3

times per minute, sometimes at 19 seconds each time.... Glad I have my

backup! Sleep Apnea is very common in heart patients. I now sleep with a

forced air machine which makes it impossible to snore. The forced air is

wonderful and I sleep well and feel refreshed all day - no need for naps or

feeling tired during the day. I love it - it is the masks that need help!

They are hard to get use to, I use two different ones and change off.

Well good luck with your Sleep Apnea problems, and if you suspect sleep apnea

- ge it checked out! I had the study done in my home - I think it was better

for me.

~guin

Sue Owens wrote:

> Janet ..

>

> >

> > me. I quit breathing for 30 second at a time during the night and

> > then gasp

> > for breath, I snore, toss and turn

>

> Yep, that's it, all right. Husband also has it. Weird.... his loud

> snoring doesn't bother me a

> bit. What wakes me up is the apnea. He exhales, then silence for about

> 30 seconds like you

> said, then a gasp and a snort and resumes breathing/snoring again.

> Sometimes i poke or rub

> him to get him to breathe again. Scary.

> Pls. let us know what your sleep studies say, and what treatment if

> any is available, okay?

> Good luck to you.

> Sue

>

> --

> " She was not quite what you would call refined.

> She was not quite what you would call unrefined.

> She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. "

> -- Mark Twain

>

> Rich and Sue Owens

> http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/7457/index3.html

>

> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> http://www.ZapLife.org

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am moving to Long Beach in two days. Have been living in Fullerton, in

Orange County. I hear that Long Beach has many more fog and marine

overcast days than cities more inland. Must be somewhat like the East Bay.

I'll be moving close to the Veterans Administration Hospital where I can,

hopefully, get my cardiac meds cheaper.

Mike

At 03:31 PM 6/12/01 -0700, you wrote:

>Hey Mike;

>

>I am in " sunny California " as well.... The East Bay Area - where are you?

>~guin

[Guest guest]

Hey Mike;

I am in " sunny California " as well.... The East Bay Area - where are you?

~guin

Hiranuma wrote:

> Guin,

>

> Yes, I agree about the mask. Very uncomfortable. The latest mask I got was

> a Gold Seal with a gel seal. It is far and away more comfortable than the

> silicone mask I had previously. I had a continuous allergy problem until a

> new otolaryngologist looked at my records and said that he never prescribes

> a CPAP without a humidifier. Maybe it's the climate here in sunny

> California. Anyway, the humdifier did the trick and I've been sleeping well

> and waking with no nasal passage pain.

>

> Mike

>

> At 10:08 PM 6/10/01 -0700, you wrote:

> >Mike;

> >

> >I just wanted to clarify that not everyone has the allergic problems you

> >are talking about with the CPAP machine. I have used my mask for 3

> >months now and I do not need a humidifier. I do not get any drying

> >out.... I do however use a nasal spray (rx by my Doctor) when I am

> >stuffed up -- Sometimes I am so stuffed up that I cannot use the CPAP

> >machine. I sure do miss it when I cannot use it. (If you are stuffed

> >up - you cannot breathe through the mask!) The only pain I have ever

> >had was from the way the mask fit!

> >

> >Yes, Sleep Apnea is a serious condition - especially if you have heart

> >disease.

> >~guin

>

> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> http://www.ZapLife.org

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/8/01 1:29:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,

charlyne1121@... writes:

> Gareth use to sleep sitting up....actually it was more bent over

> > in half. We found out a yr. ago that he has GERD...gastric esophageal

> >

Both my children sometime sleep this way occassionally. I thought they were

just cold or playing when they fell asleep. I know it is not a good position

for sleep but what to do?

Diane

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/9/01 9:32:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,

writes:

>

> :

>

> If is not sleeping well it will *most definitely* play a role in his

> behavior and is worth the study to find out if he's reaching a deep sleep

> ever. Even with out apnea, you will get a feel for his quality of sleep. It

> is possible that many of the behaviors you worry about are attributable to

> this--and then what needs to be treated is his sleep.

>

> I often wondered about this, although when 's asleep, a bomb could go

off.....usually, he falls asleep right in the middle of the living room, TV

is blasting, people are talking.......how can he NOT be sleeping soundly

though? It is very confusing to me. He also sleeps later than usual in the

a.m., believe it or not....and we're having a hard time getting him up in

time for the bus at 7:15!! This coming from a kid who USED to wake up at the

crack of dawn each day no matter what time he fell asleep the night before!

The stopped breathing is what bothers me most, even though it's just a few

seconds, but it stops none the less. A friend of ours has been hounding me

to have checked for celiac. I' ve asked three doctors who haven't

tested for it, and they've all said the likelihood is no, because he

would have big belly, have constant diarrhea, stomach upset, etc., etc. Who

knows?

That sleep study sounds interesting though. If he does have apnea, what do

they do after that? I mean, do they find prob's with adenoids, ears or do th

ey give med's again????

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/9/01 4:19:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ltb3105@...

writes:

<<

The stopped breathing is what bothers me most, even though it's just a few

seconds, but it stops none the less. >>

Maddie used to do this too . Actually, once I counted up to 18

seconds!!!!!!! I was So SURE they'd find apnea during her sleep study, but

nope. She also sleeps folded over like a napkin (not every night).

Donna

[Guest guest]

I am so surprised they didn't find sleep apnea in your daughter. I am

starting to wonder if this sleep study Noelle is up for in late Dec. is

going to be catastrophic. Your description of her looking like a mummy w/

all the wires is making me very nervous. Do you think they didn't have a

finding of apnea because Maddie didn't sleep well w/ all the wires attached?

,

mom to Noelle age 5 next month, DS, many sensory probs.

> Maddie used to do this too . Actually, once I counted up to 18

> seconds!!!!!!! I was So SURE they'd find apnea during her sleep study,

but

> nope. She also sleeps folded over like a napkin (not every night).

[Guest guest]

on some of nathan's early reports from when he was

3yrs or soo, they kept saying he was fine didnt detect

any apnea, but if you read the report, they did, but

it wasnt enough to worry about i guess, they must go

by guidelines, cause theyre would be times we could

count 30-60sec before he would all of a sudden take a

breath. But when they did say he had significant

periods of apnea, whe he was older he got put on cpap,

i remember his dr's letter stating 15.9 periods of

this blah blah apnea per hour and 9.6 periods of this

kind of apnea per hour etc, so they have different

kinds too. And luckily his O2 levels havent gone below

90% . If the person is having horrible time even

during testing they will NOT hesitate to put

appropriate devices on during sleep study. Untreated

sleep apnea leads to many problems, lack of sleep,

worsened health, behavior problems, lack of energy

during day, or hyper if child, high blood pressure,

and even cardiac arrest. shawna.

=====

shawna

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[Guest guest]

>

> I have Sleep Apnea too. Is it dangerous would you recommend going to

> the

> sleep center, never even discussed it with anyone. Let me know please

> thanks.

wow, this is getting REAL interesting. I've read over and over, over

the yrs., about how sleep apnea can

lead to major heart problems. Rich has it too. He alternates between

extremely loud snoring, and the apnea.

Oddly, i sleep soundly when he's snoring loudly. But when he stops

breathing, i wake up and become alert.

Last yr. when he was in the hospital(s) for a week, i kept bringing up

the apnea thing. No one listened.

Sue

[Guest guest]

I have a question, suppose apnea is causing the heart problem and when you

cure apnea does the heart problem go away?(you cant stop hoping you

know!....) . TURK

>From: Sue Owens <susie77@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Sleep Apnea

>Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 22:03:23 -0500

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I have Sleep Apnea too. Is it dangerous would you recommend going to

> > the

> > sleep center, never even discussed it with anyone. Let me know please

> > thanks.

>

> wow, this is getting REAL interesting. I've read over and over, over

>the yrs., about how sleep apnea can

>lead to major heart problems. Rich has it too. He alternates between

>extremely loud snoring, and the apnea.

>Oddly, i sleep soundly when he's snoring loudly. But when he stops

>breathing, i wake up and become alert.

>Last yr. when he was in the hospital(s) for a week, i kept bringing up

>the apnea thing. No one listened.

> Sue

>

>

>

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Yes, I agree with . I have been on CPAP for a year now and I

won't leave home without it! I am headed to Washington DC with 24

7/8th graders and chaperones and I have my CPAP packed in my checked luggage!

The masks were very hard to get use to. Yes I had to learn to breath

through my nose because it was always stopped up and couln't before.

But the CPAP took my breath away when I would sleep with my mouth opened,

so I learned very quickly to sleep with it closed. Now I sometimes

even nap with it!!!

It will be your best friend if you just keep trying to get use to it!

~guin

P.S. The only disadvantage is that I feel like I am "locking"

my husband out each time I put on the mask and turn on the machine....

But even that would not stop me from using it!

wrote:

Sue, Don't

let it just drop there........keep trying to get someone to take you seriously.

I'm sure that you've read all of the emails around this and I want to stress

again that he will feel a difference if he gets treated.

Re: Sleep Apnea

>

> I have Sleep Apnea too. Is it dangerous would you recommend going

to

> the

> sleep center, never even discussed it with anyone. Let me know

please

> thanks.

wow, this is getting REAL interesting. I've read over and

over, over

the yrs., about how sleep apnea can

lead to major heart problems. Rich has it too. He alternates between

extremely loud snoring, and the apnea.

Oddly, i sleep soundly when he's snoring loudly. But when he stops

breathing, i wake up and become alert.

Last yr. when he was in the hospital(s) for a week, i kept bringing

up

the apnea thing. No one listened.

Sue

Please visit the Zapper homepage at

http://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

I am sorry but can someone explain what CPAP is??? Thx. TURK

>From: Guin Van Dyke <guin@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Sleep Apnea

>Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 22:28:21 -0700

>

>Yes, I agree with . I have been on CPAP for a year now and I won't

>leave home without it! I am headed to Washington DC with 24 7/8th

>graders and chaperones and I have my CPAP packed in my checked luggage!

>The masks were very hard to get use to. Yes I had to learn to breath

>through my nose because it was always stopped up and couln't before.

>But the CPAP took my breath away when I would sleep with my mouth

>opened, so I learned very quickly to sleep with it closed. Now I

>sometimes even nap with it!!!

>

>It will be your best friend if you just keep trying to get use to it!

>~guin

>

>P.S. The only disadvantage is that I feel like I am " locking " my

>husband out each time I put on the mask and turn on the machine.... But

>even that would not stop me from using it!

>

> wrote:

>

> > Sue, Don't let it just drop there........keep trying to get someone to

> > take you seriously. I'm sure that you've read all of the emails

> > around this and I want to stress again that he will feel a difference

> > if he gets treated.

> >

> > Re: Sleep Apnea

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > I have Sleep Apnea too. Is it dangerous would you

> > recommend going to

> > > the

> > > sleep center, never even discussed it with anyone. Let me

> > know please

> > > thanks.

> >

> > wow, this is getting REAL interesting. I've read over and

> > over, over

> > the yrs., about how sleep apnea can

> > lead to major heart problems. Rich has it too. He alternates

> > between

> > extremely loud snoring, and the apnea.

> > Oddly, i sleep soundly when he's snoring loudly. But when he

> > stops

> > breathing, i wake up and become alert.

> > Last yr. when he was in the hospital(s) for a week, i kept

> > bringing up

> > the apnea thing. No one listened.

> > Sue

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> > http://www.ZapLife.org

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

hey turk,,,

id have to cut off both legs and maybe and arm to see 209 again,.......at

5'9 1/2 " im a whopping 3-5-0.

i keep trying,,,,,,summer comes i lose a few pounds.....winter comes i put

it right back on......

maybe i need a good woman to kick my tail now and then......hahahahaaaa

and bill,,,,,,that brought back a lot of memories but also some wishful

thinking......we going to start calling you the good humor man.........you

should start sending your quips into a newspaper.....i bet after a couple

weeks they offer you a column......you and andy rooney,,,right??

bob in pa

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hey turk,,,,

did you do away with that group you started on pal talk......

i cant find it,........i used to see stacie there once in a while but it

seems to be gone....

bob in pa

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Nice try Turk.............the odds are that it won't......you'll be lucky if it didn't do some kind of permanent damage to the heart. (minor) On the other hand weight loss might help cure them both if that is an issue for you.

Re: Sleep Apnea>Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 22:03:23 -0500>>>>> >> > I have Sleep Apnea too. Is it dangerous would you recommend going to> > the> > sleep center, never even discussed it with anyone. Let me know please> > thanks.>> wow, this is getting REAL interesting. I've read over and over, over>the yrs., about how sleep apnea can>lead to major heart problems. Rich has it too. He alternates between>extremely loud snoring, and the apnea.>Oddly, i sleep soundly when he's snoring loudly. But when he stops>breathing, i wake up and become alert.>Last yr. when he was in the hospital(s) for a week, i kept bringing up>the apnea thing. No one listened.> Sue>>>_________________________________________________________________Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

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Talk about not leaving home without it............In the days when we still tent camped I used to take mine with us and would request the site nearest the bathroom.....looked pretty funny with a 2-300ft extension cord running along the dirt and the sound of white noise coming from in the tent. I'm sure it kept the bears and racoons away!!!

Re: Sleep Apnea > > I have Sleep Apnea too. Is it dangerous would you recommend going to > the > sleep center, never even discussed it with anyone. Let me know please > thanks. wow, this is getting REAL interesting. I've read over and over, over the yrs., about how sleep apnea can lead to major heart problems. Rich has it too. He alternates between extremely loud snoring, and the apnea. Oddly, i sleep soundly when he's snoring loudly. But when he stops breathing, i wake up and become alert. Last yr. when he was in the hospital(s) for a week, i kept bringing up the apnea thing. No one listened. Sue Please visit the Zapper homepage at http://www.ZapLife.org

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Hi Turk,

I am responding to two emails at once....

Regarding the CPAP: It is a machine with a headpiece that fits over your nose. It uses a constant flow of air pressure to keep your breathing passages open.....since them closing is what is cutting off your airflow.

Yes, next time you are in SF let me know and we'd love to meet you.

Hello ;Yes I am in San Fransisco, you're right yesterday was a wonderful day so is today. I'll be here until monday the 15th then i am planning to fly back. Thanks again for the info and next time i come i would love to see you and your family. Regards TURK

Re: Sleep Apnea> >> >> >> > >> > > I have Sleep Apnea too. Is it dangerous would you> > recommend going to> > > the> > > sleep center, never even discussed it with anyone. Let me> > know please> > > thanks.> >> > wow, this is getting REAL interesting. I've read over and> > over, over> > the yrs., about how sleep apnea can> > lead to major heart problems. Rich has it too. He alternates> > between> > extremely loud snoring, and the apnea.> > Oddly, i sleep soundly when he's snoring loudly. But when he> > stops> > breathing, i wake up and become alert.> > Last yr. when he was in the hospital(s) for a week, i kept> > bringing up> > the apnea thing. No one listened.> > Sue> >> >> >> >> >> > Please visit the Zapper homepage at> > http://www.ZapLife.org> >> >

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Hi ;

Yes weight loss was a problem for me i was 209 with a small frame at 5 10''

now im a lean mean .... machine at 160 so maybe that why i havent been

zapped for the past year (almost) plus im sure med cocktails being different

helped. Thanks anyway. Regards TURK

>From: " " <Scrapnfriend@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: Sleep Apnea

>Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:04:44 -0700

>

>Nice try Turk.............the odds are that it won't......you'll be lucky

>if it didn't do some kind of permanent damage to the heart. (minor) On the

>other hand weight loss might help cure them both if that is an issue for

>you.

>

>

> Re: Sleep Apnea

> >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 22:03:23 -0500

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > I have Sleep Apnea too. Is it dangerous would you recommend going to

> > > the

> > > sleep center, never even discussed it with anyone. Let me know

>please

> > > thanks.

> >

> > wow, this is getting REAL interesting. I've read over and over, over

> >the yrs., about how sleep apnea can

> >lead to major heart problems. Rich has it too. He alternates between

> >extremely loud snoring, and the apnea.

> >Oddly, i sleep soundly when he's snoring loudly. But when he stops

> >breathing, i wake up and become alert.

> >Last yr. when he was in the hospital(s) for a week, i kept bringing up

> >the apnea thing. No one listened.

> > Sue

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Hi ;

Thanks for the info. Question since it gives you constant airflow doesnt

that dry your air passages because in the hospital when they put that oxygen

thing i remember having my nostrils and mouth dry allthe time. I promise

when i come to san fran next time you'll be the first people i look for and

well meet. in a short time i got to like you very much. Regards to the

family. TURK

>From: " " <Scrapnfriend@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: Sleep Apnea

>Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:47:25 -0700

>

>Hi Turk,

>

>I am responding to two emails at once....

>

>Regarding the CPAP: It is a machine with a headpiece that fits over your

>nose. It uses a constant flow of air pressure to keep your breathing

>passages open.....since them closing is what is cutting off your airflow.

>

>Yes, next time you are in SF let me know and we'd love to meet you.

>

>

>Hello ;

>Yes I am in San Fransisco, you're right yesterday was a wonderful day so is

>today. I'll be here until monday the 15th then i am planning to fly back.

>Thanks again for the info and next time i come i would love to see you and

>your family. Regards TURK

>

>

> Re: Sleep Apnea

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I have Sleep Apnea too. Is it dangerous would you

> > > recommend going to

> > > > the

> > > > sleep center, never even discussed it with anyone. Let me

> > > know please

> > > > thanks.

> > >

> > > wow, this is getting REAL interesting. I've read over and

> > > over, over

> > > the yrs., about how sleep apnea can

> > > lead to major heart problems. Rich has it too. He alternates

> > > between

> > > extremely loud snoring, and the apnea.

> > > Oddly, i sleep soundly when he's snoring loudly. But when he

> > > stops

> > > breathing, i wake up and become alert.

> > > Last yr. when he was in the hospital(s) for a week, i kept

> > > bringing up

> > > the apnea thing. No one listened.

> > > Sue

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> > > http://www.ZapLife.org

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hey Bob;

I told you as soon as I get back I am coming there with a couple of cuties

to clean your house and that day you might lose 100 LBS what do you say to

that. LOOOOLLLLLLL. TURK

>From: J <robertj@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Sleep Apnea

>Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:39:22 +0000

>

>hey turk,,,

>

>id have to cut off both legs and maybe and arm to see 209 again,.......at

>5'9 1/2 " im a whopping 3-5-0.

>

>i keep trying,,,,,,summer comes i lose a few pounds.....winter comes i put

>it right back on......

>

>maybe i need a good woman to kick my tail now and then......hahahahaaaa

>

>and bill,,,,,,that brought back a lot of memories but also some wishful

>thinking......we going to start calling you the good humor man.........you

>should start sending your quips into a newspaper.....i bet after a couple

>weeks they offer you a column......you and andy rooney,,,right??

>

>bob in pa

>

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No Bob;

I still go on paltalk whenever i can, but for the past couple of months

since i have had alot of things going on i didnt get on to paltalk. As soon

as i get back I am going to get heavily involved with it again. Right

COLINNNNNNNNNN i haven't heard from you in a long time bud wher in the

heaven have you been??????????? Regards TURK.

>From: J <robertj@...>

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>Subject: Re: Sleep Apnea

>Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:51:13 +0000

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>hey turk,,,,

>

>did you do away with that group you started on pal talk......

>

>i cant find it,........i used to see stacie there once in a while but it

>seems to be gone....

>

> bob in pa

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Bob,

I'll kick yours if you'll kick mine......lol Wouldn't we look funny!!!

Re: Sleep Apnea

hey turk,,,id have to cut off both legs and maybe and arm to see 209 again,.......at 5'9 1/2" im a whopping 3-5-0.i keep trying,,,,,,summer comes i lose a few pounds.....winter comes i put it right back on......maybe i need a good woman to kick my tail now and then......hahahahaaaaand bill,,,,,,that brought back a lot of memories but also some wishful thinking......we going to start calling you the good humor man.........you should start sending your quips into a newspaper.....i bet after a couple weeks they offer you a column......you and andy rooney,,,right??bob in pa---[This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company]Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org