Sleep Apnea

March 16, 2006

i have sleep apnea and i use a Cplus [improved version of Cpap]

machine which works fine. it's a prescription item and usually

requires going thru a sleep lab first. my apnea is weight

related...another 20 pounds for me to lose and it's gone. is it

possible the new mom is over her normal weight? my other idea is from

saul pressman , as follows:

" Sleep apnea is caused by:

1) soft tissue obstruction of the airway, or

2) some failure of respiratory control by the central nervous system

In the first case, there are several approaches, such as CPAP

(constant positive airway pressure) which prevents the tongue from

falling back into the throat; preventing the person from lying on

their back during sleep; and even surgery.

In the second case, ozone therapy (delivered by ear insufflation) has

helped some people by normalizing respiratory control. The exact

mechanism is not understood yet, but ozone therapy almost invariably

results in improved sleep. Probably it has to do with melatonin

production and resulting serotonin levels. Even in diseases which are

not traditionally treated with ozone, we have seen improvement in

sleep, if nothing else.

Best of Health

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh "

hope something here helps,

dick

>

> Anyone have any great ideas on how to help someone

> with sleep apnea? She is 35, petite, and has a new born.

> She has had this problem for several years but her Mom

> told me today she is much worse than before since having

> the baby.

>

> In the past she used a Chi machine for help but now she

> either doesn't have enough time with the 3 children or it's

> not helping like before.

>

> Edith

>

March 16, 2006

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ERROR ERROR....MY MACHINE IS A C-FLEX NOT CPLUS...SORRY

DICK

-- In oxyplus , " rkanak99 " <rkanak99@...> wrote:

>

> i have sleep apnea and i use a Cplus [improved version of Cpap]

> machine which works fine. it's a prescription item and usually

> requires going thru a sleep lab first. my apnea is weight

> related...another 20 pounds for me to lose and it's gone. is it

> possible the new mom is over her normal weight? my other idea is from

> saul pressman , as follows:

>

> " Sleep apnea is caused by:

>

> 1) soft tissue obstruction of the airway, or

> 2) some failure of respiratory control by the central nervous system

>

> In the first case, there are several approaches, such as CPAP

> (constant positive airway pressure) which prevents the tongue from

> falling back into the throat; preventing the person from lying on

> their back during sleep; and even surgery.

>

> In the second case, ozone therapy (delivered by ear insufflation) has

> helped some people by normalizing respiratory control. The exact

> mechanism is not understood yet, but ozone therapy almost invariably

> results in improved sleep. Probably it has to do with melatonin

> production and resulting serotonin levels. Even in diseases which are

> not traditionally treated with ozone, we have seen improvement in

> sleep, if nothing else.

>

> Best of Health

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh "

>

> hope something here helps,

>

> dick

>

> >

> > Anyone have any great ideas on how to help someone

> > with sleep apnea? She is 35, petite, and has a new born.

> > She has had this problem for several years but her Mom

> > told me today she is much worse than before since having

> > the baby.

> >

> > In the past she used a Chi machine for help but now she

> > either doesn't have enough time with the 3 children or it's

> > not helping like before.

> >

> > Edith

> >

March 17, 2006

Well, that would be a good distinction to make. If she is not using it, then

the solution is to find the time to use it. There is nothing that is less

invasive or more health promoting.

I would also wonder about needing a chiropractic adjustment to make sure nothing

is pinching nerves to lungs, etc. carrying kids around can compress and distort

the spine.

Apnea is often a low oxygen issue. Yes I know apnea causes low oxygen, but

being low in oxygen apnea. Chicken or the egg. Well, either way the chi

machine is a super oxygenator. I know I'm preaching to the choir here Edith.

Deep breathing helps with apnea, but most people don't like to deep breath.

Exercise helps. Most don't like to exercise. And on and on it goes. Losing

weight helps when weight is an issue. If she is petit, I'm thinking that is not

it.

On an apnea side note. A friend of a friend just died because he had apnea and

went to his doc for some help with an injury and the doc, knowing he had apnea,

put him on muscle relaxants. He went home, took the pill, went to bed and never

woke up. How is it humanly possible for a doctor to do such a thing. It is

just beyond my comprehension.

Anyway. http://www.sleepwizard.com/?OVRAW=apnea & OVKEY=apnea & OVMTC=standard

This product has an unconditional money back guarantee. ???

Blessings

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sleep apnea

Anyone have any great ideas on how to help someone

with sleep apnea?

March 17, 2006

Below is an article that my naturopath told me about for a device that treats

sleep apnea. I am checking into it. I had to wait 6 months for someone in my

area to be trained to make this device. I was interested to read that it is

related to getting enough oxygen. If you would like I can also send the next

one of Dr. Rowen's newsletters which descibes the process further and gives Dr.

Robson's phone number. Ruth

Latest Issue: January 2004 / Volume XIV , No. 1 Miracles of Medicine

Cure Sleep Apnea and Other Diseases Instantly

Mac is my best friend in California. Don’t laugh, that is his real

name. Ron is 53 and has essentially lived in a prison for the last 30 years

because of a serious health problem.

Ron’s medical problem is a virtually lethal obstructive sleep

apnea. He’s been chained to a positive pressure air machine

(CPAP) for 30 years. Even with it, he awakened 30 times at

night, breathless and choking, and in indescribable fear. He had no dreams

(which occur during the restorative sleep state), never awakened rested, was

exhausted all day, and often functioned like a walking zombie from no sleep.

Ron couldn’t even go camping outdoors, and travel was limited. Should the power

go out in a winter Pacific storm, as it did for days last year, the situation

becomes catastrophic. He installed an emergency generator just to power his CPAP

machine. To function during the day, he had to take up to nine Ritalin tablets

to control his anxiety.

Several weeks ago, I heard about a Tacoma, Washington dentist, Dr. Farrand

Robson, doing miracles with mouth splints. The list of conditions his splint

treats is incredible — everything from sleep apnea, like ’s, to

fibromyalgia and more.

My wife and I were planning to attend a seminar in Seattle

anyway, so I decided to contact Dr. Robson. He peaked my

interest even more when he told me he has not yet seen a case of sleep apnea

that did not resolve with his method.

I called immediately and “ordered” him to come with us. joined us

and brought his life-sustaining CPAP machine along.

We saw Dr. Robson on a Tuesday. A splint was molded for Ron, which lifted his

tongue out of his throat. Instantly, he became more relaxed, his blood-oxygen

saturation jumped five points to normal, and he exclaimed, “I can breathe!”

now is sleeping through the night, dreaming for the first time in memory.

He is off his daytime Ritalin and feels relaxed. His wife was startled to find

him peacefully sleeping on the sofa — untethered. He was finally catching up on

years of lost sleep.

Ron’s sleep apnea isn’t the only condition that Dr. Robson’s

splint has treated instantly.

In fact, many patients walk in with a problem and walk out of

his office symptom free — and they don’t take one single drug. And most of them

are able to walk away from their prescription drugs.

Next month, I’ll give you all the details on this fantastic

discovery of Dr. Robson and how his methods may also help far-reaching

conditions from fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, and cardiovascular disease to

multiple sclerosis, ADD, and more.

This is a story you will not want to miss.

-------------- Original message --------------

From: ejohns9525@...

>

> Anyone have any great ideas on how to help someone with sleep apnea? She is

35, petite, and has a new born. She has had this problem for several years but

her Mom told me today she is much worse than before since having the baby.

>

> In the past she used a Chi machine for help but now she either doesn't have

enough time with the 3 children or it's not helping like before.

>

> Edith

March 17, 2006

In a message dated 3/17/06 4:26:41 PM Central Standard Time,

ruthanew@... writes:

>

> Below is an article that my naturopath told me about for a device that

> treats sleep apnea. I am checking into it. I had to wait 6 months for

someone in

> my area to be trained to make this device. I was interested to read that it

> is related to getting enough oxygen. If you would like I can also send the

> next one of Dr. Rowen's newsletters which descibes the process further and

> gives Dr. Robson's phone number. Ruth

>

> Latest Issue: January 2004 / Volume XIV , No. 1 Miracles of Medicine

> Cure Sleep Apnea and Other Diseases Instantly

>

Ruth,

Yes I would love to read the rest of the story, so to speak and pass it on to

my friend.

And thank you to all who have given such good advice. I'll certainly pass

all on

to her. And Donna, I hear you about the Chi machine...my thoughts exactly.

Edith

March 17, 2006

Carol, Thanks for all your research. It's good to see info from different

sources. Below is the second article that has Dr. Robson's phone number. I

called in August and they were very friendly and informative. They invited me

to come to their office but I said it was too far. They told me to call back in

six months and they would have some names to give me. I did this montho names,

one DDS north of me and one sourth of me. I haven't called yet. I had a sleep

study years ago and have a cpap machine. They don't require a prescription for

this device. All this info about sleep apnea being related to a lack of oxygen

makes me wonder if some type of ozone therapy can help. Ruth

atest Issue: February 2004 / Volume XIV , No. 2 New Discovery Relieves

Sleep Apnea — and Back Pain — Instantly! What if I were to tell you that all

kinds of illnesses, from sleep apnea to hypertension to back pain, could be

treated simply by fixing an obstruction in your throat?

And what if I also told you that you may not realize you have the obstruction?

You’ve read my repeated mentions of the problems injuries, scars, and root

canals can cause throughout the entire body. Now a doctor has found that a

blockage in your throat could be responsible for more illnesses than you can

imagine.

I told you last month how Farrand Robson, DDS of Tacoma, Washington, provided a

miracle to my friend Mac in one day. Ron suffered from severe sleep

apnea and couldn’t breathe while sleeping without the help of a machine. But Dr.

Robson fixed his problem with one treatment. Ron now sleeps like a baby without

any help from a machine.

What did Dr. Robson do that was so miraculous?

He simply put a specially made splint into Ron’s mouth and, presto, Ron was

breathing without help.

Ron says, “Immediately, when Dr. Robson put the splint in my mouth, I felt a

release in my throat. A wave of relaxation

engulfed my body. Instantly, breathing took no effort. Living in the fog of

breathlessness for years, I mistook even daytime

breathing effort for ‘normal’ and now realize that I was struggling for air even

while awake. At 53, I have been reborn thanks to Dr. Robson’s work!”

While Ron’s ordeal and successful treatment were stunning, Dr. Robson showed me

that it isn’t unique.

Take the wife of Dr. Sprinkle, a Fort Worth dentist, for example. He was

training under Dr. Robson because his wife was treated successfully with this

therapy. She had to sleep sitting up with her head forward because of thoracic

outlet syndrome, which is due to compression of the nerves in the throat area.

The abnormal head position is what kept her airway open while sleeping.

No other doctor was able to help her at all, but she was pain-free in weeks

simply by inserting one of Dr. Robson’s splints.

Amazing!

But sleep apnea is only one of the illnesses these splints can help. Dr. Robson

has used them to treat dozens of illnesses that are seemingly unrelated.

And while the healing abilities of this treatment are truly astounding, the real

intriguing story is that it gets to a primary cause of why people get sick.

Through the years, Dr. Robson has noticed parallels in a variety of conditions —

they all seemed to have TMJ dysfunction in common. So he went into treating TMJ,

but soon found that TMJ itself was secondary to an even deeper condition, which

when treated, resolved the TMJ.

You’ve read many times in these pages about oxygen medicine and balancing the

autonomic nervous system (ANS). Dr. Robson showed how his splint brings both of

these fields together. When your throat has an obstruction, it not only cuts off

your oxygen supply, it also causes the rest of the body to respond negatively.

Dr. Robson maintains that the throat can be the largest disturbance to your ANS.

This part of the airway is held open by the constant contraction of muscles,

keeping the tongue from falling back and closing it. The muscles require

adrenaline for this function.

When an obstruction occurs, either through genetics, injury, or stress, your

body must produce extra adrenaline to help your jaw and neck muscles keep the

airway open. Even the slightest closure of the airway will ring stress alarms.

Adrenaline is a hormone secreted by the adrenal gland in response to stress. It

stimulates autonomic nerve action, and the “fight or flight” response. Your body

needs adrenaline to survive, but too much is damaging. Muscle cells can go into

hyperdrive, causing them to waste magnesium. Feelings of stress, anger, and

panic will arise.

Magnesium is critical for energy production in every cell in your body. Deplete

it, and you lose your energy. This is a root cause of almost any chronic or

debilitating condition, such as fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue (CFIDS). Both of

these are known for decreased energy production.

When the oxygen flow is fully restored, your body stops producing the excess

adrenaline. Magnesium levels are quickly restored. The result is a relatively

quick and significant boost in your energy level.

Just ask Jody Finn, now 25, about fibromyalgia. Jody says, “My fibromyalgia pain

started at age 12 after a car accident. The pain quickly became horrible — 10 on

a scale of 10 — and I literally became disabled. I had irritable bowel symptoms,

terrible stomach acid reflux, and regurgitation. I had two surgeries, one on my

knee and one on my tonsils. I was always exhausted and never felt rested. I even

saw a psychiatrist and had hypnosis. Surgeons, having struck out twice, tried

and failed to get me to do a thoracic outlet surgery. I tried every drug in the

book (Prilosec, NSAIDs, muscle relaxants, etc.).”

Robson explains that Jody’s fibromyalgia was nothing more than her body’s normal

response to maximize its oxygen supply. Adrenaline poured out to open her airway

by tightening her throat muscles. But the excess adrenaline wreaked havoc on the

rest of her body.

“Immediately with the placement of Dr. Robson’s appliance, I felt dramatically

better and relaxed,” said Jody. “My cold sensitivity decreased. My need for

thyroid replacement dropped, the reflux stopped, and within months, all the

fibromyalgia pain cleared!” Jody was previously disabled, but she’s now

gainfully employed as an office assistant for Dr. Robson.

(By the way, adrenaline is also a key component in high blood pressure. Reduce

your body’s production of adrenaline, and your hypertension might disappear!)

So far, you’ve seen how Dr. Robson’s device can instantly relieve sleep apnea

and quickly restore energy to the weakest

and most rundown people. But what about neck and back pain? Or spinal

degeneration?

Well, your back pain could be more than just a lack of chiropractic adjustments.

Take my case for example, as I was fortunate enough to be one of Dr. Robson’s

patients.

You already know I take great care of my body. Not only do I tell you how to

live a healthy life, but I also follow my own

advice. What I didn’t realize was that I was already beginning to lose some of

my height due to cervical spine degeneration.

I’ve had long-term upper back muscle tightness and knots. I thought it was due

to my older and bigger brother beating on me in childhood. I can’t blame him

anymore. Dr. Robson showed me, on X-ray, how degeneration and an abnormal

reversal in my neck curve was actually protecting my airway size.

He also showed me that my “postnasal drip” and frequent throat clearing could be

due, not to an unknown allergy, but to the change in my anatomy. The X-ray even

showed a totally obliterated disc at C6-7. (I enjoyed blaming my brother for

that one.)

After Dr. Robson inserted my new splint, my height immediately increased

one-half inch! How could this happen?

A subsequent X-ray gave me the answer. The C6-7 disc was now visible and the

reverse curve had corrected in the lower two-thirds of my neck. This partial

correction of my vertebral column increased my height to what it was in high

school. The splint actually restored a collapsed disc on the spot!

Not only did I grow one-half inch, and my petite wife showed the same

amazing results. Once they were no longer required to protect the airway, the

throat and neck muscles could relax, restoring normal function, anatomy, and

full height.

Dr. Robson’s term for this phenomenon is “adaptive remodeling.” He said, “Your

pain and degeneration are actually your friends, your body’s way of protecting

its most important requirement — its oxygen supply.”

This next case caught me totally by surprise. Gregg Welch, 46, a contractor,

over several years developed a perplexing array of symptoms. He suffered from

visual field loss, leg numbness, intractable leg pain, and more. By 1993,

tipping his head forward caused lightning bolts to fire down his arms.

Orthopedists could not find a cause, and he was sent to a neurologist who found

MS lesions in the white matter of his

brain. (He previously had a negative spinal MRI.)

“I was walking like a drunk,” he said. “I saw the most esteemed MS specialist in

the Puget Sound area. After heavy doses of steroids, my retina blew out. I could

not read fine print, even with glasses. I could not crush a potato chip in my

left hand. Totally physically disabled, I considered suicide. I went for prayer.

The only thing that kept me going was my projects and my adrenaline rushes. My

wife, who saw and was helped by Dr. Robson for her neck pain, referred me to

him.”

On the second visit, Gregg’s appliance was placed in his mouth and immediately

he was able to reach a stunning 170 pounds pressure with a grip meter. Gregg’s

vision improved immediately (although he needed laser surgery because of the

steroid “poisoning”). His gait returned. His house-shaking snoring is gone, and

he began dreaming again.

Gregg’s “MS” is gone, thanks to an astute dentist who recognized the havoc

Gregg’s airway obstruction was wreaking on his body. Could MS be more than white

matter lesions physically short-circuiting the brain, as dogma now holds? Why is

it that brain lesions in MS patients are poorly correlated with symptoms, and

how is it that these lesions can come and go so suddenly?

What I found absolutely astounding was that the moment Gregg’s splint was

removed, his shocking grip of 170 pounds disappeared and the paralysis returned!

Honestly folks, if I had not been at Dr. Robson’s office to interview Gregg and

witness my immediate X-ray changes, I would have never believed such a story!

I’ve spoken with Dr. Robson’s students who are employing the technique. They are

ecstatic at what they’re seeing, and confirmed everything I’ve reported here.

Dr. Pecenka, who practices in Strongsville, Ohio even told me of a woman

with terminal ovarian cancer, given up for dead by the Cleveland Mayo Clinic.

After airway correction, her tumor marker dropped from 268 to 32 in just weeks,

and she had a corresponding dramatic clinical improvement!

So how do you know if you’re a candidate for Dr. Robson’s therapy? Obviously, if

you snore, I recommend seeing Dr. Robson or a dentist trained in his practice as

soon as possible. I also suggest you receive treatment if you’re significantly

overweight, as the splint may help you breathe easier.

What can you expect from Dr. Robson? First, he takes your detailed history.

Amazingly, people with the airway problems fit into predictable patterns,

regardless of the presenting complaints. He pointed out things happening to Ron

that only Ron could know, unless those effects were expected.

Impressions of your teeth are taken along with cervical X-rays, which reveal the

anatomy of your spine and throat structures. A splint or appliance is fashioned,

which pulls the lower jaw forward. This is the key to relief of the airway.

Robson then employs painstaking and labor-intensive maneuvers with a white paste

on the appliance to see where the tongue has drifted. By tongue impressions on

the paste, he adjusts the splint. This finely tunes the splint to treat nerve

endings in the mouth.

Very few health professionals, except those adept at neural therapy, are aware

or understand the meridian/nervous-system pathways to the teeth and mouth. Your

peripheral symptoms may just melt away in the chair with the proper regulation

of the ANS and ability to breathe normally.

The great news is that there’s an instant cure for your snoring or more severe

conditions like those above. The bad news is that few professionals are trained

in this work. Dr. Robson is conducting seminars for interested dentists. His

mission now is to educate professionals who can bring this work to you.

You can find out if there’s a dentist in your area by calling Dr. Robson at

253-272-8651. If there’s not, I urge you to take this article to your dentist

and implore him to contact Dr. Robson for information and training. These

methods could likely change your life, as it did for Ron, Gregg, and the others.

If your dentist is willing to listen, it will likely forever change his or her

practice habits. It did for Dr. Robson.

-------------- Original message --------------

From: Carol <carol@...>

> I was interested in the message that mentioned the sleep apnea problem, and

> wondered about finding other dentists who make the device. I am not sure

> whether or not I have found what Dr. Farrand Robson, DDS, is using, but

> here is some possible information that might be the device he is using with

> his patients that snore and/or have sleep apnea.

>

> I think if you tell a dentist that you have sleep apnea, they might require

> a prescription from an MD (who has done a sleep study for this dental

> device. I wonder if you just told the dentist that all you do is snore if

> you would be able to get such a device without the prescription and without

> the sleep study? Don't know, but it might be worth a try.

>

> This is what was mentioned in a previous oxyplus email message:

>

> >Several weeks ago, I heard about a Tacoma, Washington dentist, Dr. Farrand

> >Robson, doing miracles with mouth splints. The list of conditions his

> >splint treats is incredible everything from sleep apnea, like ’s,

> >to fibromyalgia and more.

> >

> >My wife and I were planning to attend a seminar in Seattle

> >anyway, so I decided to contact Dr. Robson. He peaked my

> >interest even more when he told me he has not yet seen a case of sleep

> >apnea that did not resolve with his method.

>

> I checked Google for the name " Farrand Robson " , and found this:

>

> http://www.acam.org/luncheonspeakers.html

>

> >Systemic Implications of Oral Functions (Friday, Nov 19, 2004)

> >

> >Farrand Robson is active in the development of diagnostic and treatment

> >approaches for jaw related muscle contraction disorders and has elucidated

> >the role of oral functions in these conditions. His work has also

> >provided new understandings of the relationship of oral factors to many

> >systemic concerns. The therapy he developed has direct impact on a broad

> >range of local and systemic symptoms. As a founding member of TMJ

> >Diagnostics and Oral Systemic Balance, Inc. he resides in Tacoma,

> >Washington where he is involved in training, development and clinical

> >practice. His primary focus has been to provide a systematic therapeutic

> >system that can be broadly used by other practitioners and in the

> >re-integration of medicine and dentistry.

>

March 17, 2006

Here is a description of the OSB device from the patent office:

Apparatus for relieving upper airway disorders and related problems

Document:United States Patent 5752822

Abstract:An apparatus for relieving upper airway disorders and related problems

is shown and described. A tongue positioning extension is provided on a dental

orthotic, the extension being positioned under a user's tongue on either side of

the user's mouth. The extension is configured to elevate a tongue of the user,

the tongue resting on an upper surface of the extension. The extension has a

sufficient depth to prevent the tongue from moving below the extension, but is

sufficiently narrow to prevent the extension from impinging on the tissues of

the floor of the mouth. An upper surface of the extension is convex and

polished, and edges of the extension are rounded, to allow the tongue to move

easily and comfortably to the upper surface. By elevating the tongue in this

manner, restriction of the upper respiratory passages is relieved, resulting in

a variety of benefits to the user.

March 19, 2006

Bill, Thanks for all the info. I expecially liked the patent with drawings.

The OSB device is only available from Dr. Robson and dentists who have been

trained by him. It is custom made for each person after taking impressions and

x-rays. I'm just learning aboput this and it's something I'd like to do. When

I first called Dr. Robson's office for information they sent me some informative

materials. When I called back this month they gave me 2 names, one was the

dentist in Fremont, CA and one in Eureka who may travel to my area. I think

that the training involves a significant amount of time and money. So, I'm

wondering how much it will cost to get one of these devices. I don't think it's

something my insurance will cover. Though maybe my dental will cover a portion

of the x-rays and impressions. I have a cpap machine which I don't really like.

And when I move around at night the mask shifts and the machine shuts off and

starts beeping and wakes everyone up. I think the device will help me with more

than the apnea. I'm going to call the 2 dentists this week. I hope this info

has been helpful for the new mom whose friend orignally bought up the problem.

Before I do the OSB I have to clean up and stabilize my well water which is

acidic and eating my copper pipes. Ater doing some research on water softeners,

I'm going with the Savastat HS38. It's $530 including tax and installation and

no maintenance. And the other thing that I really want to do (which is why I

joined this list) is to figure how to use the ozonator that I bought used. It's

in a little suitcase in my closet. I bought it because of tinnitus. I know I

need a tank and some hoses. I'm a bit intimidated by machines. So, I'm reading

a book and trying to take in as much info as I can from this site. Ruth

> Hi Ruth,

>

> Interesting... but I'm confused.

>

> Is the above, patented 'OSB device' available anywhere ?

>

> The above says:

>

> " A tongue positioning extension ... being positioned under

> a user's tongue on either side of the user's mouth.....

> By elevating the tongue in this manner, restriction of the

> upper respiratory passages is relieved, "

>

> This device seems very different than the one I found here:

> ( which " pulls the jaw forward " )

>

> Google: " sleep apnea " Rowen Robson splint >>

>

> Which leads to:

>

> http://www.dfwcfids.org/archive/cfsjul04.pdf

>

> This is the same as the one in your previous message, Ruth.

> ( It also includes Dr. Robson's phone number. )

>

> Here's part of this PDF file:

>

> DFW LIGHTHOUSE Online

> Volume 6, No. 3, July 2004

> http://www.dfwcfids.org/news/

>

> NEW DENTAL APPLIANCE MAY RELIEVE PAIN AND

> RESTORE AUTONOMIC BALANCE

>

> All kinds of illnesses, from sleep apnea to back pain, may be

> treated by fixing an obstruction in your throat -- and you may

> not even realize you have the obstruction. Farrand Robson,

> D.D.S. of Tacoma, WA has found that a throat blockage may be

> responsible for many illnesses.

>

> Dr. Robson provided a miracle to my friend Ron in one day.

> Ron had severe sleep apnea and couldn't breathe while sleeping

> without the help of a machine. Dr. Robson fixed his problem

> with one treatment. Ron now sleeps like a baby without any

> machine!

>

> What did Dr. Robson do? He crafted a special appliance and

> put it into Ron's mouth. Ron was then able to breath without

> help. Ron says, " Immediately, when he put the appliance into

> my mouth, I felt a release in my throat. A wave of relaxation

> engulfed my body. Instantly, breathing took no effort. Living

> in the fog of breathlessness for years, I mistook even daytime

> breathing effort for 'normal.' Now I realize I was struggling

> for air even while awake. At 53, I have been reborn thanks to

> Dr. Robson's work! "

>

> - snip -

>

> Impressions of your teeth are taken along with cervical

> X-rays, which reveal the anatomy of your spine and throat

> structures. A splint or appliance is fashioned, which pulls

> the lower jaw forward. This is the key to relief of the

> airway. Robson then employs painstaking and labor-intensive

> maneuvers with a white paste on the appliance to see where the

> tongue has drifted. By tongue impressions on the paste, he

> adjusts the splint. This finely tunes the splint to treat

> nerve endings in the mouth.

>

> - snip -

>

> Find out if there is a trained dentist in your area by calling

> Dr. Robson at 253.272.8651. If there's not, take this article

> to your dentist and have him contact Dr. Robson. These methods

> could likely change your life, as it did for many others.

> If your dentist is willing to listen, it will likely forever

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March 23, 2006

Has anyone on this list been treated for sleep apnea? My rummie says this is my

problem and wants a sleep study.

March 23, 2006

Hi, .

I don't have CFS, but I do have obstructive sleep apnea, and I use a

CPAP machine nightly, which has worked wonders for me.

Rich

>

> Has anyone on this list been treated for sleep apnea? My rummie says

this is my problem and wants a sleep study.

>

March 23, 2006

Hi Rich, did you have fibro? My dx says my lupus blood work looks good but I

can't sleep and I am having tens of symptoms...enlarged saliva glands, chills,

chronic diarrhea., fatigue, pins and needles, anxiety, tremors...and he claims

it is all sleep apnea. Seems like alot of symptoms for not sleeping.

Pat

Re: sleep apnea

Hi, .

I don't have CFS, but I do have obstructive sleep apnea, and I use a

CPAP machine nightly, which has worked wonders for me.

Rich

>

> Has anyone on this list been treated for sleep apnea? My rummie says

this is my problem and wants a sleep study.

>

March 23, 2006

Hi, Pat.

With all due respect to your doctor, those don't sound like symptoms

of sleep apnea to me. Here are my questions for diagnosing sleep

apnea. " Yes " answers suggest apnea.

1. Do you wake up from sleeping feeling unrefreshed?

2. Do you frequently wake up with a headache?

3. Do you frequently wake up with your ears ringing?

4. Do you frequently wake up during your sleeping period with a

gasp?

5. Do other people tell you that you snore?

6. If you have a sleeping partner, do they tell you that you seem

to stop breathing sometimes when you are sleeping?

7. Are you groggy during the part of the day when you are awake?

8. If you sleep at night and are awake during the day, do you feel

the need for a nap in the afternoon?

9. If you drive, do you " blank out " with your eyes open during

driving? (very dangerous!)

10. Do you have poor recollection for details of things that

occurred yesterday?

Rich

>

> Hi Rich, did you have fibro? My dx says my lupus blood work looks

good but I can't sleep and I am having tens of symptoms...enlarged

saliva glands, chills, chronic diarrhea., fatigue, pins and needles,

anxiety, tremors...and he claims it is all sleep apnea. Seems like

alot of symptoms for not sleeping.

> Pat

March 23, 2006

Thanks Rich.

I do have several of those symptoms, but I suspect it's alot more than sleep

apnea. I just moved to Washington State, and I wish I could find a Dx to work

with. There are so many protocols it's hard to know were to start. I am now

taking a aspirin with each meal and have seen a difference with IBS and energy

levels.

Pat

Re: sleep apnea

Hi, Pat.

With all due respect to your doctor, those don't sound like symptoms

of sleep apnea to me. Here are my questions for diagnosing sleep

apnea. " Yes " answers suggest apnea.

1. Do you wake up from sleeping feeling unrefreshed?

2. Do you frequently wake up with a headache?

3. Do you frequently wake up with your ears ringing?

4. Do you frequently wake up during your sleeping period with a

gasp?

5. Do other people tell you that you snore?

6. If you have a sleeping partner, do they tell you that you seem

to stop breathing sometimes when you are sleeping?

7. Are you groggy during the part of the day when you are awake?

8. If you sleep at night and are awake during the day, do you feel

the need for a nap in the afternoon?

9. If you drive, do you " blank out " with your eyes open during

driving? (very dangerous!)

10. Do you have poor recollection for details of things that

occurred yesterday?

Rich

>

> Hi Rich, did you have fibro? My dx says my lupus blood work looks

good but I can't sleep and I am having tens of symptoms...enlarged

saliva glands, chills, chronic diarrhea., fatigue, pins and needles,

anxiety, tremors...and he claims it is all sleep apnea. Seems like

alot of symptoms for not sleeping.

> Pat

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

March 23, 2006

The simple solution is to get a sleep study done. Sleep apnea can

sometimes not reveal itself in the person feeling tired, falling

asleep etc during the day. It can cause other symptoms that you might

not connect to sleep apnea. For instance, having to get up and

urinate a couple of times a night is a symptom. Untreated sleep apnea

can lead to high blood pressure and early death from heart trouble.

Just get the test done and you will know. I am writing this because I

had no clue that I had sleep apnea other than snoring. I was wide

awake during the day, and thought I was fine. Turns out my sleep

study revealed I was one of the worst cases my doc has seen.

a Carnes

>

> Hi, Pat.

>

> With all due respect to your doctor, those don't sound like

symptoms

> of sleep apnea to me. Here are my questions for diagnosing sleep

> apnea. " Yes " answers suggest apnea.

>

> 1. Do you wake up from sleeping feeling unrefreshed?

> 2. Do you frequently wake up with a headache?

> 3. Do you frequently wake up with your ears ringing?

> 4. Do you frequently wake up during your sleeping period with a

> gasp?

> 5. Do other people tell you that you snore?

> 6. If you have a sleeping partner, do they tell you that you seem

> to stop breathing sometimes when you are sleeping?

> 7. Are you groggy during the part of the day when you are awake?

> 8. If you sleep at night and are awake during the day, do you feel

> the need for a nap in the afternoon?

> 9. If you drive, do you " blank out " with your eyes open during

> driving? (very dangerous!)

> 10. Do you have poor recollection for details of things that

> occurred yesterday?

>

> Rich

>

> >

> > Hi Rich, did you have fibro? My dx says my lupus blood work looks

> good but I can't sleep and I am having tens of symptoms...enlarged

> saliva glands, chills, chronic diarrhea., fatigue, pins and

needles,

> anxiety, tremors...and he claims it is all sleep apnea. Seems like

> alot of symptoms for not sleeping.

> > Pat

>

March 23, 2006

Dr. Shlifer, Poulsbo, WA just up from the ferry to Bainbridge

Island - about 5 miles give or take.

a Carnes

>

> Thanks Rich.

> I do have several of those symptoms, but I suspect it's alot more

than sleep apnea. I just moved to Washington State, and I wish I

could find a Dx to work with. There are so many protocols it's hard

to know were to start. I am now taking a aspirin with each meal and

have seen a difference with IBS and energy levels.

> Pat

> Re: sleep apnea

>

> Hi, Pat.

>

> With all due respect to your doctor, those don't sound like

symptoms

> of sleep apnea to me. Here are my questions for diagnosing sleep

> apnea. " Yes " answers suggest apnea.

>

> 1. Do you wake up from sleeping feeling unrefreshed?

> 2. Do you frequently wake up with a headache?

> 3. Do you frequently wake up with your ears ringing?

> 4. Do you frequently wake up during your sleeping period with a

> gasp?

> 5. Do other people tell you that you snore?

> 6. If you have a sleeping partner, do they tell you that you seem

> to stop breathing sometimes when you are sleeping?

> 7. Are you groggy during the part of the day when you are awake?

> 8. If you sleep at night and are awake during the day, do you

feel

> the need for a nap in the afternoon?

> 9. If you drive, do you " blank out " with your eyes open during

> driving? (very dangerous!)

> 10. Do you have poor recollection for details of things that

> occurred yesterday?

>

> Rich

>

> >

> > Hi Rich, did you have fibro? My dx says my lupus blood work

looks

> good but I can't sleep and I am having tens of

symptoms...enlarged

> saliva glands, chills, chronic diarrhea., fatigue, pins and

needles,

> anxiety, tremors...and he claims it is all sleep apnea. Seems

like

> alot of symptoms for not sleeping.

> > Pat

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences

with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested

in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

March 24, 2006

Hi a, I have just her of her. Some told me she uses the Marshal Protocol,

has anyone here had success with it?

Pat

Re: sleep apnea

>

> Hi, Pat.

>

> With all due respect to your doctor, those don't sound like

symptoms

> of sleep apnea to me. Here are my questions for diagnosing sleep

> apnea. " Yes " answers suggest apnea.

>

> 1. Do you wake up from sleeping feeling unrefreshed?

> 2. Do you frequently wake up with a headache?

> 3. Do you frequently wake up with your ears ringing?

> 4. Do you frequently wake up during your sleeping period with a

> gasp?

> 5. Do other people tell you that you snore?

> 6. If you have a sleeping partner, do they tell you that you seem

> to stop breathing sometimes when you are sleeping?

> 7. Are you groggy during the part of the day when you are awake?

> 8. If you sleep at night and are awake during the day, do you

feel

> the need for a nap in the afternoon?

> 9. If you drive, do you " blank out " with your eyes open during

> driving? (very dangerous!)

> 10. Do you have poor recollection for details of things that

> occurred yesterday?

>

> Rich

>

> >

> > Hi Rich, did you have fibro? My dx says my lupus blood work

looks

> good but I can't sleep and I am having tens of

symptoms...enlarged

> saliva glands, chills, chronic diarrhea., fatigue, pins and

needles,

> anxiety, tremors...and he claims it is all sleep apnea. Seems

like

> alot of symptoms for not sleeping.

> > Pat

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences

with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested

in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

March 24, 2006

I am waiting for an appointment. Maybe there is more than one thing going on.