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[Guest guest]

amira sorry i do this all the time...its

http://www.naturesgift.com....do visit it they have wonderful eo's and

the amount of info given on them is an education in itself sorry

again dolores

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amira once again sorry i amvery dumb with computers lets try this

again. http://wwwnaturesgift.com let me know if you make it o the

site and how you like it dolores

[Guest guest]

shoot amira just type in naturesgift.com i dont know what i am doing

wrong doores

[Guest guest]

yes,

Transfer factor plus is highly effective against this. If the person has

mercury fillings or other autoimmune disorder, I then recommend the regular

transfer factor (not hte plus which raises NK activity a bit too high for

autoimmune disorders) . Please contact me if you would like to know how to

get it. I have used it with about 50 clients so far with excellent results.

I still also recommend oxidative techniques as a compliment to almost any

protocol for people who have access to it, but not everyone does, at least

til saul comes out with his pocket ozone generator (:

Thanks

Matt

If your blood tests are all negative, why are you still sick?

M. Curtin

Integral Partners, Inc.

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shingles

a friend of mine just got diagnosed with shingles. it was preceded by

stress,

not sleeping well, and some fumes at a carpentry site. i will recommend to

him monolaurin, cat's claw, and microhydrin. if anyone else has ideas let

me

know. i've heard this can be really bad. i had chicken pox in high school

and

it was really really bad.

[Guest guest]

When my mom got shingles she took a couple of homeopathic remedies for

viruses and they worked great!

luckower@... wrote:

> a friend of mine just got diagnosed with shingles. it was preceded by stress,

> not sleeping well, and some fumes at a carpentry site. i will recommend to

> him monolaurin, cat's claw, and microhydrin. if anyone else has ideas let me

> know. i've heard this can be really bad. i had chicken pox in high school and

> it was really really bad.

>

>

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My mom took mega doses of lysine and it made them go away really quickly.

Sorry, I don't know what the dose was.

Donna

shingles

a friend of mine just got diagnosed with shingles. it was preceded by

stress,

not sleeping well, and some fumes at a carpentry site. i will recommend to

him monolaurin, cat's claw, and microhydrin. if anyone else has ideas let me

know. i've heard this can be really bad. i had chicken pox in high school

and

it was really really bad.

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

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Dear Donna,

2 lysine capsules every hour for 8 hours will usually work.

That will also prevent a herpe sore from coming on the lip, if you

catch it right at the beginning before the first blister has formed.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

shingles

>

>

> a friend of mine just got diagnosed with shingles. it was preceded by

stress,

> not sleeping well, and some fumes at a carpentry site. i will

recommend to

> him monolaurin, cat's claw, and microhydrin. if anyone else has ideas

let me

> know. i've heard this can be really bad. i had chicken pox in high

school and

> it was really really bad.

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

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Dear Saul,

What is the best source for quality lysine capsules?

>Dear Donna,

>

>2 lysine capsules every hour for 8 hours will usually work.

>

>That will also prevent a herpe sore from coming on the lip, if you

>catch it right at the beginning before the first blister has formed.

>

>Best of Health!

>Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

>

> shingles

> >

> >

> > a friend of mine just got diagnosed with shingles. it was preceded

>by

>stress,

> > not sleeping well, and some fumes at a carpentry site. i will

>recommend to

> > him monolaurin, cat's claw, and microhydrin. if anyone else has

>ideas

>let me

> > know. i've heard this can be really bad. i had chicken pox in high

>school and

> > it was really really bad.

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies,

>and

>other alternative self-help subjects.

> >

> > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> >

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>your

>own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability

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Dear ,

I would trust any brand recommended by the local health food store.

It is an easy amino to bring to market, so it is cheap.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

shingles

> > >

> > >

> > > a friend of mine just got diagnosed with shingles. it was preceded

> >by

> >stress,

> > > not sleeping well, and some fumes at a carpentry site. i will

> >recommend to

> > > him monolaurin, cat's claw, and microhydrin. if anyone else has

> >ideas

> >let me

> > > know. i've heard this can be really bad. i had chicken pox in high

> >school and

> > > it was really really bad.

> > >

> > >

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> >and

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Gracias!

>

>Dear ,

>

>I would trust any brand recommended by the local health food store.

>It is an easy amino to bring to market, so it is cheap.

>

>Best of Health!

>Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

>

> shingles

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > a friend of mine just got diagnosed with shingles. it was

>preceded

> > >by

> > >stress,

> > > > not sleeping well, and some fumes at a carpentry site. i will

> > >recommend to

> > > > him monolaurin, cat's claw, and microhydrin. if anyone else has

> > >ideas

> > >let me

> > > > know. i've heard this can be really bad. i had chicken pox in

>high

> > >school and

> > > > it was really really bad.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative

>therapies,

> > >and

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----- Original Message -----

" Patty " @ Wrote:

> What is recommended as natural treatments for shingles? I can't seem to

find anything about it in my books.

> Patty

> =======

Hi Patty,

L-Lysine 500 mg. twice daily.

Vitamin C 2,000 mg twice daily

Cayenne capsules Use as directed on label ( You could also just make a tea

out of it)

B Complex 100 mg 3 times daily

plus extra vitamin B 12 If you could do the injections, that's preferred.

Zinc chelate 80 mg. for 1 week then reduce to quicker absorbing 50 mg.

zinc lozenges

Other helpful supplements are;

Calcium chelate (knowing what I know now, I'd use the coral calcium) 1,500

daily

plus

magnesium 750 mg. daily

Vitamin A 75,000 IU for 2 weeks, then drop to 50,000 IU or take 25,000

IU in

emulsion capsule form

Vitamin D 1,000 IU twice daily for 1 week, then drop to 400 IU.

Vitamin E 400-800 IU daily

Coenzyme Q10 is also helpful alone with germanium

And I'd really hit the CS most of all.

The above I got out of my book " Perscription for Nutritional Healing " . My

husband had shingles years ago, and that is what we used. Didn't get the

perscription drug the doctor gave him. Decided to go this route. However,

that was before I knew about the CS. As usual, wished I'd known then what I

know now.

Gail

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Gail. Unfortunately, my mother in law took the whole antiobiotic

routine for her shingles. She says she is in good health, but having

suffered from cataracts, colon cancer, problems with her tear ducts, and now

some sciatic nerve pain, I don't think she really knows what good health is

yet. Obviously she has some immune system issues. She trusts fully in the

medical doctors, did the whole chemo route and all. I will forward this

info on to her and maybe she will listen to me one day yet!

By the way, how long did it take for your husbands shingles to heal?

Patty

Re: Shingles

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> " Patty " @ Wrote:

>

> > What is recommended as natural treatments for shingles? I can't seem to

> find anything about it in my books.

> > Patty

> > =======

>

> Hi Patty,

>

> L-Lysine 500 mg. twice daily.

> Vitamin C 2,000 mg twice daily

> Cayenne capsules Use as directed on label ( You could also just make a

tea

> out of it)

> B Complex 100 mg 3 times daily

> plus extra vitamin B 12 If you could do the injections, that's

preferred.

> Zinc chelate 80 mg. for 1 week then reduce to quicker absorbing 50 mg.

> zinc lozenges

>

> Other helpful supplements are;

> Calcium chelate (knowing what I know now, I'd use the coral calcium)

1,500

> daily

> plus

> magnesium 750 mg. daily

> Vitamin A 75,000 IU for 2 weeks, then drop to 50,000 IU or take 25,000

> IU in

> emulsion capsule form

> Vitamin D 1,000 IU twice daily for 1 week, then drop to 400 IU.

> Vitamin E 400-800 IU daily

>

> Coenzyme Q10 is also helpful alone with germanium

>

> And I'd really hit the CS most of all.

>

> The above I got out of my book " Perscription for Nutritional Healing " . My

> husband had shingles years ago, and that is what we used. Didn't get the

> perscription drug the doctor gave him. Decided to go this route.

However,

> that was before I knew about the CS. As usual, wished I'd known then what

I

> know now.

>

> Gail

[Guest guest]

Noelene,

What is the doctor going to do for your daughter? It's interesting

about shingles/chickenpox. We should do a poll and see how many of us

say that. My doctors have never asked me about shingles, I forgot to

tell them, and it wasn't on the HUGE questionnaire that I had to fill

out prior to diagnosis.

[Guest guest]

th

it is so funny you are talking about shingles, 2 yrs ago I was rushed in the

ambulance for wicked pain in the left arm up to shoulder and chest and could

not breath, the er said i had shingels, I did not have no rash or anything

it just came on sudden,I was in the shower and before i knew it I was in

agony and could not breath

Diane

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Noelene,

What is the doctor going to do for your daughter? It's interesting

about shingles/chickenpox. We should do a poll and see how many of us

say that. My doctors have never asked me about shingles, I forgot to

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At 01:53 PM 05/02/2002 -0000, you wrote:

>Sheri,

>

>Correct me if I'm not thinking straight.

>

>But shingles also occur in older adults who have had the smallpox vax

>and for one reason or another their immune systems have faltered.

>

>This is why you see so many of the elderly with shingles.

No, it has to do with chicken pox virus.

It remains latent in the body after chix pox supposedly and then if there

is immune weakness or stress, it can reappear as shingles. From a

homeopathic perspecitve its another story, but not smallpox vax, chix pox.

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Hi All

My RN says to take the same precautions you would with the pox if there

are vesicles present.

There is a very effective Rx if given within 12 to 24 hrs of onset.

Have seen many in the early stage on the rib heads showing an erathema

and subluxated ribs ( 2 or 3 ). ADJUST and refer to MD immediately.

The MD is usually surprised at the referral!

DrBob

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Re: Shingles

Steve,

The infective agent is the varicella-zoster virus, the little beast that

causes chickenpox, and lays dormant in a nerve only to go active again

by

some trigger that I don't know. It maybe stress or trauma, or? But it

seems reasonable that when the " pox " develop over the nerve root, viable

virus' would be present. So caution is warranted.

Steve Lumsden

Shingles

> Does anyone have any info on if shingles are contagious or not. I

have

> heard both stories. I have a patient who came down with a cranial

distr.

> down into the left eye and is on drops for the eyes and meds. for the

> shingles and can't seem to get a commitment one way or the other from

the

> MD's however was put into a limited access room in the hospital while

> admitted for a night due to the pain.

>

> Take care and thank-you

>

> Steve Kinne

>

>

>

> OregonDCs rules:

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or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

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>

[Guest guest]

re:

Shingles

I've had 3 patients in a row with small area vesicles respond immediately to

application of Melalucca/Tea tree Oil.......

comments?

J Pedersen, DC

Sweet Home

Shingles

>

>

> > Does anyone have any info on if shingles are contagious or not. I

> have

> > heard both stories. I have a patient who came down with a cranial

> distr.

> > down into the left eye and is on drops for the eyes and meds. for the

> > shingles and can't seem to get a commitment one way or the other from

> the

> > MD's however was put into a limited access room in the hospital while

> > admitted for a night due to the pain.

> >

> > Take care and thank-you

> >

> > Steve Kinne

> >

> >

> >

> > OregonDCs rules:

> > 1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is

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> >

[Guest guest]

yea,

unscented roll-on deodorant applied to the lesions in the vesicle stage

helps keep them dry. Once they crust and dry, you're in good shape--except

for the pain and discomfort. But that helps reduce problems: oozing, 2ndry

infections, comfort.

Steve Lumsden

Shingles

> >

> >

> > > Does anyone have any info on if shingles are contagious or not. I

> > have

> > > heard both stories. I have a patient who came down with a cranial

> > distr.

> > > down into the left eye and is on drops for the eyes and meds. for the

> > > shingles and can't seem to get a commitment one way or the other from

> > the

> > > MD's however was put into a limited access room in the hospital while

> > > admitted for a night due to the pain.

> > >

> > > Take care and thank-you

> > >

> > > Steve Kinne

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > OregonDCs rules:

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[Guest guest]

Acetone, (nail polish remover), in the vesicle stage will clear up the

lesions. Many times it will also kill the virus. Apply until dry and

crusted. Realize that there are potential side effects. You will, however,

be utilizing a very small dosage/ absorbtion.

Dr B

Shingles

> > >

> > >

> > > > Does anyone have any info on if shingles are contagious or not. I

> > > have

> > > > heard both stories. I have a patient who came down with a cranial

> > > distr.

> > > > down into the left eye and is on drops for the eyes and meds. for

the

> > > > shingles and can't seem to get a commitment one way or the other

from

> > > the

> > > > MD's however was put into a limited access room in the hospital

while

> > > > admitted for a night due to the pain.

> > > >

> > > > Take care and thank-you

> > > >

> > > > Steve Kinne

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > OregonDCs rules:

> > > > 1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is

> > > to

> > > foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on

listserve

> > > members will be tolerated.

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> > > forward,

> > > or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member

without

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> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Listers,

I forward this from the Measure 27 group for your consideration.

Terry Petty

*************************

From: " Don McCanne " <don@...>

Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:46:56 -0700

Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured

July 2002

Underinsured in America: Is Health Coverage Adequate?

Though health insurance is one of the most important factors in assuring

access to health care, gaps in coverage can create access problems even

among the insured. Thirty-eight percent of insured individuals report that

they or their families experienced at least one problem accessing medical

services in the past year. Nearly one-fifth (18%) report that they postponed

seeking medical care, 15% had a problem paying medical bills, 10% did not

get a prescription drug they felt they needed, 8% were contacted by a

collection agency about a medical bill, and 6% didn't get care they felt

they needed.

Many of these problems arise because some individuals' health plans do not

cover all the services they need. In other cases, individuals cannot afford

the cost sharing associated with covered benefits.

While the uninsured are most at risk, researchers estimate that about a

fifth of insured individuals are underinsured and face limits on coverage or

substantial financial costs if faced with an illness. Given the recent

increase in health care costs, it is likely that this problem will escalate

in coming years.

http://www.kaisernetwork.org/health_cast/uploaded_files/4060.pdf

Comment: Current trends in health insurance include defined contributions,

greater price sensitivity through cost sharing, splitting risk pools into

individual accounts, introduction of Spartan " basic " benefit plans, greater

tiering of insurance options, and other measures that are moving away from

the traditional role of assuring financial security through risk pooling.

Why this shift? These policies are designed to protect employers against

increased costs. Yet employers pay only about 19% of the nation's health

care bill. These policies are designed to reduce risk for the insurance

companies, assuring the financial security of this industry, at the cost of

the financial security of patients. They are designed to support the views

of those that are ideologically opposed to a government role in issues of

social justice.

Do we really want to expand policies that protect an insurance industry

noted for egregiously wasting our health care resources? Do we really want

to continue to rely on employer " good will " to struggle to provide 19% of

the funding of our health care system, when we have the capability of

relieving them of this burden? Do we really want to cater to ideological

elements that believe that funding through a tax system is more evil than

funding through the private sector, even when it has been demonstrated that

public funding provides greater value for health care dollars?

We already have more than enough resources to provide comprehensive health

care benefits for everyone. Isn't it time to establish policies that would

enable us to utilize our resources much more effectively? We can continue

with our existing private and public health care delivery system, but we

desperately need a single risk pool that is publicly funded and publicly

administered.

[Guest guest]

Gee, Folks whatever happened to the aspect of individual responsibility. Why

is it my responsibility to see that Jake has his health care needs met? Why

is it not Jake's responsibility? The last time I checked you could make

enough money working a saturday at Mc's and earn enough to buy health

insurance.

Dr B

Re: Shingles

> Listers,

>

> I forward this from the Measure 27 group for your consideration.

>

> Terry Petty

>

> *************************

>

> From: " Don McCanne " <don@...>

> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:46:56 -0700

> Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured

> July 2002

> Underinsured in America: Is Health Coverage Adequate?

> Though health insurance is one of the most important factors in assuring

> access to health care, gaps in coverage can create access problems even

> among the insured. Thirty-eight percent of insured individuals report that

> they or their families experienced at least one problem accessing medical

> services in the past year. Nearly one-fifth (18%) report that they

postponed

> seeking medical care, 15% had a problem paying medical bills, 10% did not

> get a prescription drug they felt they needed, 8% were contacted by a

> collection agency about a medical bill, and 6% didn't get care they felt

> they needed.

> Many of these problems arise because some individuals' health plans do not

> cover all the services they need. In other cases, individuals cannot

afford

> the cost sharing associated with covered benefits.

> While the uninsured are most at risk, researchers estimate that about a

> fifth of insured individuals are underinsured and face limits on coverage

or

> substantial financial costs if faced with an illness. Given the recent

> increase in health care costs, it is likely that this problem will

escalate

> in coming years.

> http://www.kaisernetwork.org/health_cast/uploaded_files/4060.pdf

>

> Comment: Current trends in health insurance include defined

contributions,

> greater price sensitivity through cost sharing, splitting risk pools into

> individual accounts, introduction of Spartan " basic " benefit plans,

greater

> tiering of insurance options, and other measures that are moving away from

> the traditional role of assuring financial security through risk pooling.

> Why this shift? These policies are designed to protect employers against

> increased costs. Yet employers pay only about 19% of the nation's health

> care bill. These policies are designed to reduce risk for the insurance

> companies, assuring the financial security of this industry, at the cost

of

> the financial security of patients. They are designed to support the views

> of those that are ideologically opposed to a government role in issues of

> social justice.

> Do we really want to expand policies that protect an insurance industry

> noted for egregiously wasting our health care resources? Do we really want

> to continue to rely on employer " good will " to struggle to provide 19% of

> the funding of our health care system, when we have the capability of

> relieving them of this burden? Do we really want to cater to ideological

> elements that believe that funding through a tax system is more evil than

> funding through the private sector, even when it has been demonstrated

that

> public funding provides greater value for health care dollars?

> We already have more than enough resources to provide comprehensive health

> care benefits for everyone. Isn't it time to establish policies that would

> enable us to utilize our resources much more effectively? We can continue

> with our existing private and public health care delivery system, but we

> desperately need a single risk pool that is publicly funded and publicly

> administered.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Are they drinking it, using it topically, or both>

Shingles

> Becky,

>

> Colloidal Silver has worked well for a friends mother who had a terrible

> case for years. She has had much relief.

>

> gypsyrose

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[Guest guest]

Sounds Horrible. I have had many skin lesions and sores and rashes since

becoming sick nearly 5 years ago. I have been misdiagnosed with shingles

twice, scabies once, ....oh yeah...and chicken pox a couple of times. I

don't think I ever really had shingles though. Thank God. Now I have moved

on to foliculitis, which is supposedly due to having a suppressed immune

system and anything that gets into my pores causes infection (staph). Pretty

nasty lesions. Some get as big as a golf ball before the cyst will rupture

on its own...otherwise it is off to be lanced and drained. Yuck....

But that is a whole other topic. And one I don't want to think about before

breakfast. Sorry if I grossed you out. Hope your shingles get better.

Stay healthy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 03/21/2003 5:06:55 AM Pacific Standard Time,

txav8r@... writes:

> At the worst part, the horrible headaches and itching, I asked my husband to

> find a gun and just shoot me. I meant every word. Do you know what he

> said, " I love you honey and I'd do most anything to help you, but I'm not

> going to jail " . Well the crazy woman that I was because furious that he

> would put himself first.

>

Kathi, I am glad to hear you are finally feeling better from this!

One time, years ago I had a sinus thing and was sitting in the GP's office

and the walls are paper thin of course and I could that this woman and her

husband were there and she had shingles and was just in a terrible state of

pain, finally the Dr. became quite concerned and hospitalized her, basically

he became so concerned that the pain would overwhelm her and she would hurt

herself......... So I know how overwhelming the pain can be!

Beth

[Guest guest]

At 06:54 PM 01/06/2004 -0800, you wrote:

>

>Hi Guys,

>

>I haven't written in a while and was looking for some advice for my

sister. She has a one week old baby and was just diagnosed with shingles.

She had a really stressful delivery that lasted three days and ended up

with a C-section.

>

>She is unvaxed as is her baby girl and her husband is a Chiro. They are

very nervous for the baby. She is breastfeeding and is waiting to hear

from the ped about antibiotics. They don't want to take any but they are

concerned the baby could get chicken pox and being only 1 week is scary.

Any advice would be extremely helpful. Personal emails would be great-so

as to not clog up our list.

>

>Also- I know you will say see a homeopath- they are in La and nearest

would be in New Orleans and not really able to travel yet. Thanks again.

>

>

>

Don't EVER allow antibiotics for shingles

Is there a good acupuncturist near? My father was cured 20 years ago of

shingles with acupuncture

Otherwise, I do phone sessions now, email me privately if interested

Sheri

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