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Dentist told me several years ago I had a pre-cancer condition on my gums. I had

noticed for a year or two what I thought dead skin cells, white, under bright

white light he showed me it was a network of white threads patchy over the gums,

he said it shows what is going on in the female organs. Interesting that oral

cancer can be an indicator of uterine or ovarian cancer, which I'm statistically

at risk for because of not having borne children. He told me to take the horse

hormones that alt med people were telling us not to.

I knew it was a slow cancer because I had noticed it so long before he did, so I

had time to experiment. I adopted the Budwig protocol, or part of it; but what

made it go away was a 3 week hiking trip, so I'm convinced lots of sunshine

vitamin D and lots of exercise -- getting the lymph moving - was the key more

than Dr. Budwig's omega 3s.

A month after the trip it came back, but I was no longer getting any Vit D or

exercise. Since then -- we're taking close to ten years now, it comes and goes,

when it comes back I take it as a sign of neglecting my body and resume D (LOTS

of D) and exercise, and it diminishes or goes away again.

I CANNOT yell you my symptom or experience has anything to do with yours. I CAN

tell you if you think you may be dealing with a cancer, study cancer.

Personally, I am convinced cancer is just a failure of the immune system. D and

exercise are both important for the immune system. Iodine is important, both as

a topical and as part of bodily health. Getting rid of sugar (and starches,

they are just sugar) is important because sugar is what cancer eats.

What I'm suggesting is, yes use the iodine, but don't stop there, work on all

aspects of your immune system. This spot may be the impetus to get you

healthier habits of many kinds that give you better health in many ways.

>

> I went to my dentist today and he told me I have a spot behind my

> front teeth that is an abnormal cell growth. He said it is probably

> nothing, but if it doesn't go away or get considerably smaller in two

> weeks, he says he need to remove it and have it biopsied.

> He wants me to rinse with chorhexidine gluconate.

>

> Can I just put iodine topically on it? I know iodine is supposed to

> help with skin cancer, but would it help with this? I know " the

> answer " is " Of course. Iodine helps heal everything, " but does anyone

> really KNOW if it will help this?

>

> I'm already taking Lugol's orally and have been for about 6 months

> now, but it probably never touches the area behind my front teeth as I

> just kind of slug it down as fast as possible so as not to taste it.

>

> Is it possible for iodine to CAUSE a spot like this in my mouth? My

> friend who is taking Lugol's also says she thinks it is causing a sore

> in her mouth.

>

> I have never smoked or drank in my life and can't imagine why I would

> be at risk for oral cancer. I know it's probably nothing, but it's

> hard not to be a bit alarmed.

> Sincerely,

> Debbie

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Oh my goodness, I have this all over my gums, the roof of my mouth and bottom

teeth. It is spider webby and whitish looking. I also have little polyps all

over the roof of my mouth and nowsongs on the inside of my bottom gums. They

don't really do anything, but they do get a little irritated if I eat rough

foods like chips. I do not take any kind of iodine yet, so for me it has nothing

to do with it. It's been getting worse for over a year. My dentist didn't even

really notice, and suggested I had sjogrens since I have dry mouth. I thought he

was going to take one look and immediately notice it was very odd looking.

Actually turns out I have Lyme and other possible co-infections for the past 6

years. I dont know if that has anything to do with besides that my immune system

is completely dysfunctional. I'm concerned now that cancer was mentioned...it's

been in the back of my mind. I do have thyroid issues, and general lady issues

that havent been sorted out yet. A lot to think about. You're not alone there.

Whatever it is I have it too. I've researched everything from fungus, to yeast,

and allergies. Haven't been able to find anything similar. I'm thinking I'll see

another dentist now. Great info.

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> >> I went to my dentist today and he told me I have a spot behind my

> >> front teeth that is an abnormal cell growth. He said it is probably

> >> nothing, but if it doesn't go away or get considerably smaller in two

> >> weeks, he says he need to remove it and have it biopsied.

> >> He wants me to rinse with chorhexidine gluconate.

> >>

> >> Can I just put iodine topically on it? I know iodine is supposed to

> >> help with skin cancer, but would it help with this? I know " the

> >> answer " is " Of course. Iodine helps heal everything, " but does anyone

> >> really KNOW if it will help this?

> >>

> >> I'm already taking Lugol's orally and have been for about 6 months

> >> now, but it probably never touches the area behind my front teeth as I

> >> just kind of slug it down as fast as possible so as not to taste it.

> >>

> >> Is it possible for iodine to CAUSE a spot like this in my mouth? My

> >> friend who is taking Lugol's also says she thinks it is causing a sore

> >> in her mouth.

> >>

> >> I have never smoked or drank in my life and can't imagine why I would

> >> be at risk for oral cancer. I know it's probably nothing, but it's

> >> hard not to be a bit alarmed.

> >> Sincerely,

> >> Debbie

> >>

> >

> >

> >

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Debbie,Research DIM for reducing your estrogen levels. Black Cohosh is supposed to help balance hormones but DIM is used specifically to reduce estrogen. Lora Price248-399-9014Berkley, MI I'm not quite sure who is not taking iodine yet, but I AM! :)Does anyone have an opinion about whether the Lugols is as good orbetter for rinsing my mouth in this situation as the chorhexidinegluconate?I usually take my iodine all at once in the morning. I've startedtrying to let it slosh on the spot behind my teeth and then not rinsemy mouth. (Yuck.)I've tried to put some full strength on the spot topically, but it'sa hard spot to reach. A q-tip works, but soaks up so much precious,expensive iodine :( My finger doesn't work very well. I have to turnit upside down to get to the spot, and the drop of iodine runs off.I agree that fibroids are fed by estrogen. I started the iodine hopingit would be one more thing to help me get my estrogen levels down. Sofar no success with that.I've been trying lots of other things too. If anyone has some greatestrogen reducing tips, please email me or let me know in the offtopic group.Thanks,Debbie

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I wouldn't take black cohosh if I was trying to reduce estrogen.

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> Debbie,

>

> Research DIM for reducing your estrogen levels. Black Cohosh is supposed to

> help balance hormones but DIM is used specifically to reduce estrogen.

>

>

>

> Lora Price

>

> 248-399-9014

>

> Berkley, MI

>

>

>

>

>

> I'm not quite sure who is not taking iodine yet, but I AM! :)

>

> Does anyone have an opinion about whether the Lugols is as good or

> better for rinsing my mouth in this situation as the chorhexidine

> gluconate?

> I usually take my iodine all at once in the morning. I've started

> trying to let it slosh on the spot behind my teeth and then not rinse

> my mouth. (Yuck.)

>

> I've tried to put some full strength on the spot topically, but it's

> a hard spot to reach. A q-tip works, but soaks up so much precious,

> expensive iodine :( My finger doesn't work very well. I have to turn

> it upside down to get to the spot, and the drop of iodine runs off.

>

> I agree that fibroids are fed by estrogen. I started the iodine hoping

> it would be one more thing to help me get my estrogen levels down. So

> far no success with that.

> I've been trying lots of other things too. If anyone has some great

> estrogen reducing tips, please email me or let me know in the off

> topic group.

> Thanks,

> Debbie

>

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Hi Kathleen. I am not taking iodine yet because I just joined the group and

choose to educate myself a bit more before starting anything new. I have major

toxicity issues, so I have to tread lightly. I have learned that the tortoise

wins the race. That's where I'm at. I was simply stating that I have the same

issue and am not on iodine so it is probably not iodine related.

> > > >>

> > > >> I went to my dentist today and he told me I have a spot behind my

> > > >> front teeth that is an abnormal cell growth. He said it is probably

> > > >> nothing, but if it doesn't go away or get considerably smaller in two

> > > >> weeks, he says he need to remove it and have it biopsied.

> > > >> He wants me to rinse with chorhexidine gluconate.

> > > >>

> > > >> Can I just put iodine topically on it? I know iodine is supposed to

> > > >> help with skin cancer, but would it help with this? I know " the

> > > >> answer " is " Of course. Iodine helps heal everything, " but does anyone

> > > >> really KNOW if it will help this?

> > > >>

> > > >> I'm already taking Lugol's orally and have been for about 6 months

> > > >> now, but it probably never touches the area behind my front teeth as

> > I

> > > >> just kind of slug it down as fast as possible so as not to taste it.

> > > >>

> > > >> Is it possible for iodine to CAUSE a spot like this in my mouth? My

> > > >> friend who is taking Lugol's also says she thinks it is causing a

> > sore

> > > >> in her mouth.

> > > >>

> > > >> I have never smoked or drank in my life and can't imagine why I would

> > > >> be at risk for oral cancer. I know it's probably nothing, but it's

> > > >> hard not to be a bit alarmed.

> > > >> Sincerely,

> > > >> Debbie

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

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> > >

> > > No virus found in this message.

> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4899 - Release Date:

> > 03/28/12

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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