weight gain

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

I am so sorry you are this extremely sick. Probably weight loss is not

your first concern. I know the people I have known who are as sick as

you have had some success with having someone take them to a warm

swimming pool and help them in the water. Once in water up to your

neck you want to just stand there - don't overdo or stay to long.

Remember you have to get back out of the pool and get home.

The other thing that Dr. Cheney used to recommend was a swing, I think

called a rebounder. You sit in it and gently bounce up and down for a

bit. These chairs used to be quite expensive, but you may be able to

get one on ebay or custom made. They look like a giant baby's bouncer

that you hang from a beam, but they have their own metal frame that

holds the chair and adult weight.

These two activities may help you eventually be able to function out

of bed a bit longe each day.

Have you had a clear diagnosis of what might be the underlying cause

of your severe illness?

a Carnes

>

> Hi All,

>

> I lowered my metabolism when I was unable to eat for 4 months. I

have

> gained 30lbs on top of a gradual weight gain of 10lbs per yr. I am

in

> bed 24/7 so how is it possible to lose weight while in bed and

unable

> to exercise at all, including walking.

>

> Any ideas?

>

> L

[Guest guest]

Hi a,

Thank you for your ideas, I appreciate your tone of compassion. The

last exercise I did was in a therapy pool and I received Watsu and I

did some gentle walking. But for some reason I believe it was the Watsu

that began the intractable neurological pain episodes that have plagued

me. It could have been moving the mercury to my brain. Who knows... but

it is a drag. Watsu is where your are held in the arms of your physical

therapist and you are swished back and forth in the water. It is

extremely intoxicating, the therapist uses magic moves that allow her

to move me into many different postures while swishing through the

water.

I was thinking about the bounce back chair that Dr Cheney recommended

just recently. I think I will put the word out that I would like to buy

one used from past Cheney patients.

The thing that destroyed my health was an amalgam removal from a site

in my mouth that had a root canal surgically packed with mercury from

above the tooth-line in the gum in 1969 ( right after Woodstock : ) and

in late 2002 (it was a front tooth) the tooth snapped off and so my

dentist with his cavitat machine surmised it was filled with infection

so he had that area cleaned out with the tooth removed, the necrotic

bone, the mercury and infection was released into my body. I listened

to my dentist who convinced me it was urgent to move on this, I did and

I was unprotected by either an antibiotic or a dental dam.

I was a 30% functioning PWCFID before the mouth was opened up. After

that, I had chest pain and hyperventilation and I slid down hill. I

have cardiomyopathy and a very low cardiac output, supine, of 3.3. I

could write about lots of ways I am unwell, but I think the heart and

mercury are my primary underlying issues.

Thanks for your ideas, a,

Blessings -

L

On Apr 13, 2006, at 8:54 PM, pjeanneus wrote:

> Dear ,

> I am so sorry you are this extremely sick. Probably weight loss is not

> your first concern. I know the people I have known who are as sick as

> you have had some success with having someone take them to a warm

> swimming pool and help them in the water. Once in water up to your

> neck you want to just stand there - don't overdo or stay to long.

> Remember you have to get back out of the pool and get home.

>

> The other thing that Dr. Cheney used to recommend was a swing, I think

> called a rebounder. You sit in it and gently bounce up and down for a

> bit. These chairs used to be quite expensive, but you may be able to

> get one on ebay or custom made. They look like a giant baby's bouncer

> that you hang from a beam, but they have their own metal frame that

> holds the chair and adult weight.

>

> These two activities may help you eventually be able to function out

> of bed a bit longe each day.

>

> Have you had a clear diagnosis of what might be the underlying cause

> of your severe illness?

>

> a Carnes

>

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > I lowered my metabolism when I was unable to eat for 4 months. I

> have 

> > gained 30lbs on top of a gradual weight gain of 10lbs per yr. I am

> in 

> > bed 24/7 so how is it possible to lose weight while in bed and

> unable 

> > to exercise at all, including walking.

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> > L

>

>

>

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

> each other, not to give medical advice.  If you are interested in any

> treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

I don't think it is true that everyone with CFS is completely unable

to exercise all the time. Maybe some people never can, and some

people can at some times and not at other times.

>>Even if people were to just try 5 minutes a day of a very slow

walk, I think it could make a big difference in keeping that

metabolism from slowing down. And just because you are too sick to

clean the house or go shopping doesn't mean you can't walk on a

treadmill slow for 5 miniutes;

>>I'm sure there are some who truly can't do anything, but I think a

lot of people could benefit from a little, mild exercise.

>

***Hi Doris - I totally agree with you. On the days that I can I

either do a slow walk on the treadmill or head outside and do a bit

of gardening. On the days that I can't, then I don't. I feel that

this is why I sleep fairly well at night, and I don't suffer

from " Brain-fog " to the degree that others with CFS do.

I also find weight resistance exercises hard to do. I never seem to

be able to increase the resistance, or to go much beyond five

minutes. I believe it is Rich who says that we are better off doing

this type of exercise, as opposed to doing aerobic exercise.

When I was first diagnosed my doctor didn't want me getting any

exercise, and I was to have a two hour nap in the afternoon. After

four months I couldn't think and I was turning into a zombie. At this

point my doctor agreed that her advise probably wasn't the best and

changed her mind about me getting complete rest.

I know that this view isn't popular with a lot of CFSers, however, I

don't buy into a lot of what we have been told to believe over the

years. Who knows, maybe in the end I will be proven wrong, but until

then I try to live as " normally " as possible given my limitations.

Take care.

Bernie

[Guest guest]

Isn't that the worst? I've lost about 80 pounds with a very low-carb diet and

treating yeast. Still have 50 to go . . . and I've gained back some because the

past couple months have been weird with changing around my candida treatments

and my stomach being weird and trying to add Recup with sugar and everything.

Trina

patricia <pcmattes@...> wrote:

I think I am beginning to feel better, after a diagnosis of lupus and fibro

for about 15 years. My problem now is that I have gained over 100 pounds and am

having a difficult time getting it off. Has anyone been successful in losing

weight? I am still recovering from a broken ankle and damaged joint going on 9

months so walking is difficult. But my appetite is still over of control. I need

to eat less.

Pat

[Guest guest]

I am going to have to stop eating so many carbs. I just wish there was something

to curve the appetite.

Re: weight gain

Isn't that the worst? I've lost about 80 pounds with a very low-carb diet and

treating yeast. Still have 50 to go . . . and I've gained back some because the

past couple months have been weird with changing around my candida treatments

and my stomach being weird and trying to add Recup with sugar and everything.

Trina

patricia <pcmattes@...> wrote:

I think I am beginning to feel better, after a diagnosis of lupus and fibro

for about 15 years. My problem now is that I have gained over 100 pounds and am

having a difficult time getting it off. Has anyone been successful in losing

weight? I am still recovering from a broken ankle and damaged joint going on 9

months so walking is difficult. But my appetite is still over of control. I need

to eat less.

Pat

[Guest guest]

I find fiber is the best curb for appetite. Just stuff yourself on vegetables,

fruits, and whole grain wheat or rice. Apples work the best for me. Even

bananas. One has only 100 calories, but is filling. You can even use Citrucel

or Metamucil. There are also many high fiber cereals on the market.

Re: weight gain

Isn't that the worst? I've lost about 80 pounds with a very low-carb diet

and treating yeast. Still have 50 to go . . . and I've gained back some because

the past couple months have been weird with changing around my candida

treatments and my stomach being weird and trying to add Recup with sugar and

everything.

Trina

patricia <pcmattes@...> wrote:

I think I am beginning to feel better, after a diagnosis of lupus and

fibro for about 15 years. My problem now is that I have gained over 100 pounds

and am having a difficult time getting it off. Has anyone been successful in

losing weight? I am still recovering from a broken ankle and damaged joint going

on 9 months so walking is difficult. But my appetite is still over of control. I

need to eat less.

Pat

[Guest guest]

Trina

Can you work out?

That is a huge weight loss, good luck with the final 50

L

On Apr 16, 2006, at 5:26 PM, Katrina Tangen wrote:

> Isn't that the worst? I've lost about 80 pounds with a very low-carb

> diet and treating yeast. Still have 50 to go . . . and I've gained

> back some because the past couple months have been weird with changing

> around my candida treatments and my stomach being weird and trying to

> add Recup with sugar and everything.

>   

>   Trina

>

> patricia <pcmattes@...> wrote:

>  

>   I think I am beginning to feel better, after a diagnosis of lupus

> and fibro for about 15 years. My problem now is that I have gained

> over 100 pounds and am having a difficult time getting it off. Has

> anyone been successful in losing weight? I am still recovering from a

> broken ankle and damaged joint going on 9 months so walking is

> difficult. But my appetite is still over of control. I need to eat

> less.

>

>   Pat

>

>

[Guest guest]

--U might try this to help curb your apetite. right before eating

your main meal drink 2 T. of vinegar. I drink it in the the form of

pickle juice. I read a very small synopsis of a study where they

gave healthy males 2 T. of vinegar to drink right before giving them

a piece of white bread to eat. It increased feelings of fullness

after eating and decreased by 20% their insulin and blood sugar

levels . I have been doing this since i read this. it really helps.

zuzu

In , " patricia " <pcmattes@...> wrote:

>

> I am going to have to stop eating so many carbs. I just wish there

was something to curve the appetite.

> Re: weight gain

>

>

> Isn't that the worst? I've lost about 80 pounds with a very low-

carb diet and treating yeast. Still have 50 to go . . . and I've

gained back some because the past couple months have been weird with

changing around my candida treatments and my stomach being weird and

trying to add Recup with sugar and everything.

>

> Trina

>

> patricia <pcmattes@...> wrote:

>

> I think I am beginning to feel better, after a diagnosis of

lupus and fibro for about 15 years. My problem now is that I have

gained over 100 pounds and am having a difficult time getting it off.

Has anyone been successful in losing weight? I am still recovering

from a broken ankle and damaged joint going on 9 months so walking is

difficult. But my appetite is still over of control. I need to eat

less.

>

> Pat

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks...I will try this!

Re: weight gain

>

>

> Isn't that the worst? I've lost about 80 pounds with a very low-

carb diet and treating yeast. Still have 50 to go . . . and I've

gained back some because the past couple months have been weird with

changing around my candida treatments and my stomach being weird and

trying to add Recup with sugar and everything.

>

> Trina

>

> patricia <pcmattes@...> wrote:

>

> I think I am beginning to feel better, after a diagnosis of

lupus and fibro for about 15 years. My problem now is that I have

gained over 100 pounds and am having a difficult time getting it off.

Has anyone been successful in losing weight? I am still recovering

from a broken ankle and damaged joint going on 9 months so walking is

difficult. But my appetite is still over of control. I need to eat

less.

>

> Pat

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks! No, no exercise for me.

Lucey <susan.lucey@...> wrote: Trina

Can you work out?

That is a huge weight loss, good luck with the final 50

L

On Apr 16, 2006, at 5:26 PM, Katrina Tangen wrote:

> Isn't that the worst? I've lost about 80 pounds with a very low-carb

> diet and treating yeast. Still have 50 to go . . . and I've gained

> back some because the past couple months have been weird with changing

> around my candida treatments and my stomach being weird and trying to

> add Recup with sugar and everything.

> Â Â

> Â Trina

>

> patricia <pcmattes@...> wrote:

> Â

> Â I think I am beginning to feel better, after a diagnosis of lupus

> and fibro for about 15 years. My problem now is that I have gained

> over 100 pounds and am having a difficult time getting it off. Has

> anyone been successful in losing weight? I am still recovering from a

> broken ankle and damaged joint going on 9 months so walking is

> difficult. But my appetite is still over of control. I need to eat

> less.

>

> Â Pat

>

>

[Guest guest]

From: " patricia " pcmattes@...

Date: Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:02pm(PDT)

Subject: Re: weight gain

I am going to have to stop eating so many carbs. I just wish there was

something to curve the appetite.

>>>>>> Try virgin coconut oil and more protein.

mjh

" The Basil Book "

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

[Guest guest]

Tara -

I don't have the exact answer to your question, but I've been

pondering it while doing my HIIT, and I wanted to make a couple of

comments.

From reading your posts thru the weeks, I know how afraid you are

that you'll lose control and gain too much too fast. I'd like to

suggest that it isn't an EITHER/OR situation (either you are losing

or you are out-of-control, either you are eating as you are now or

you are eating junk).

There are easy transitions that you can make to bring up your

calories to maintenance level, and then above, to put on some muscle

& fat. Here are some examples:

- increase your use of whole eggs rather than just whites

- peanut butter in your shakes

- peanut butter in celery with some raisins

- add nuts

- add avocado

- add red meat

- add dark chicken/turkey

- salmon

- olive oil to your vegs and other cooking

This way, you are still eating whole, healthy foods, but you are

augmenting them with some fat and therefore calories.

HTH

n

>

> What would be a good rate to gain every week? I've finally

decided that I really should gain some muscle and fat. I'm down to

about 115 and my bodyfat is probably under 10, b/c tanita is saying

13%. I have been eating around 1600 calories a day, and my

metabolism has probably slowed down. I'm afraid that if I gain

weight too fast, I'll freak out and start restricting calories

again. Any recommendations for how many calories I should add every

week and how much I should be gaining a week? I'd like to get to 125

with 14 or 15% bodyfat.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Tara,

I don't know if this will help raise your fat, but Bill

recommends adding an extra porition of carbs to your first three

meals each day for adding mass. Check out:

http://www.bodyforlife.com/exercise/calcalc.asp

I would add extra fats too, like maybe having avacodos with your

salads and make sure to add some sort of fat to each meal. You also

mentioned in another post that you do cardio 4 x per week, maybe you

could cut back to 3 x.

>

> What would be a good rate to gain every week? I've finally

decided that I really should gain some muscle and fat. I'm down to

about 115 and my bodyfat is probably under 10, b/c tanita is saying

13%. I have been eating around 1600 calories a day, and my

metabolism has probably slowed down. I'm afraid that if I gain

weight too fast, I'll freak out and start restricting calories

again. Any recommendations for how many calories I should add every

week and how much I should be gaining a week? I'd like to get to 125

with 14 or 15% bodyfat.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I also wanted to comment on this issue. A friend of mine, professional dancer,

tried many

times to get pregnant, and wasnt able to until her doctor told her she needed to

increase

her body fat. On all counts, this woman is serious about the health of her

body! So she ate

more healthy fats like nuts.

She just delivered her healthy baby about 2 weeks ago!

> >

> > What would be a good rate to gain every week? I've finally

> decided that I really should gain some muscle and fat. I'm down to

> about 115 and my bodyfat is probably under 10, b/c tanita is saying

> 13%. I have been eating around 1600 calories a day, and my

> metabolism has probably slowed down. I'm afraid that if I gain

> weight too fast, I'll freak out and start restricting calories

> again. Any recommendations for how many calories I should add every

> week and how much I should be gaining a week? I'd like to get to 125

> with 14 or 15% bodyfat.

> >

> >

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> >

[Guest guest]

I have started adding natural PB to shakes and I've started taking a TBSP of

UDOs every day. We'll see how that goes.

n wrote: Tara -

I don't have the exact answer to your question, but I've been

pondering it while doing my HIIT, and I wanted to make a couple of

comments.

From reading your posts thru the weeks, I know how afraid you are

that you'll lose control and gain too much too fast. I'd like to

suggest that it isn't an EITHER/OR situation (either you are losing

or you are out-of-control, either you are eating as you are now or

you are eating junk).

There are easy transitions that you can make to bring up your

calories to maintenance level, and then above, to put on some muscle

& fat. Here are some examples:

- increase your use of whole eggs rather than just whites

- peanut butter in your shakes

- peanut butter in celery with some raisins

- add nuts

- add avocado

- add red meat

- add dark chicken/turkey

- salmon

- olive oil to your vegs and other cooking

This way, you are still eating whole, healthy foods, but you are

augmenting them with some fat and therefore calories.

HTH

n

>

> What would be a good rate to gain every week? I've finally

decided that I really should gain some muscle and fat. I'm down to

about 115 and my bodyfat is probably under 10, b/c tanita is saying

13%. I have been eating around 1600 calories a day, and my

metabolism has probably slowed down. I'm afraid that if I gain

weight too fast, I'll freak out and start restricting calories

again. Any recommendations for how many calories I should add every

week and how much I should be gaining a week? I'd like to get to 125

with 14 or 15% bodyfat.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

My doctor has also said the same thing about my body fat levels.

beijobear wrote: I also wanted to comment on this issue.

A friend of mine, professional dancer, tried many

times to get pregnant, and wasnt able to until her doctor told her she needed to

increase

her body fat. On all counts, this woman is serious about the health of her

body! So she ate

more healthy fats like nuts.

She just delivered her healthy baby about 2 weeks ago!

> >

> > What would be a good rate to gain every week? I've finally

> decided that I really should gain some muscle and fat. I'm down to

> about 115 and my bodyfat is probably under 10, b/c tanita is saying

> 13%. I have been eating around 1600 calories a day, and my

> metabolism has probably slowed down. I'm afraid that if I gain

> weight too fast, I'll freak out and start restricting calories

> again. Any recommendations for how many calories I should add every

> week and how much I should be gaining a week? I'd like to get to 125

> with 14 or 15% bodyfat.

> >

> >

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> >

[Guest guest]

Great choices, Tara.

Give it a few weeks.

I think that will get you where you want to go.

M.

>

> I have started adding natural PB to shakes and I've started taking a

TBSP of UDOs every day. We'll see how that goes.

[Guest guest]

If you track calories, start increasing your weekly average by 100 or

so calories each week. Like this week 1700, next week 1800, following

week 1900 until after 6 weeks or so you're in the 2100-2300 range.

Bring the portion sizes up gradually. Have some higher days at the new

level and some that are still at the lower levels. It's not like

you're going to accidentally gain 20 pounds in a week. If you start

feeling stuffed and bloated like you're gaining too fast, back the

calories down to the last level and hang out there for awhile before

increasing again. If you find yourself starving and maintaining or

losing weight, bump them up until you're feeling strong and something

is happening on the scale.

Assuming you're 115 pounds and 10% body fat now, in order to get up to

125 pounds and 15%, you're going to have to gain 7 pounds of fat and 3

pounds of lean mass. It's conceivable that you could pull that off in

a month by lifting heavy, by seriously and immediately increasing your

calories into the mid-2000 range, and by eliminating cardio.

However, it sounds like gaining that quickly might scare you silly.

Depending on your time frame and goals, you could maybe shoot for

adding a pound a week and turn it into a 10 week project. In your

case, there's certainly nothing wrong with reaching your goals early.

It's not like you should freak out if you gain 3 pounds in a week

instead of 1 pound. You should celebrate. Don't start second-guessing

and slashing your calories unless you quickly overshoot your goal of

125 pounds and 14-15%, which will probably read more like 18-22% on a

Tanita.

Check out Krista's tips on eating and training for healthy weight gain:

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displayarticle.php?aid=59

> What would be a good rate to gain every week? I've finally decided that I

really should gain some muscle and fat. I'm down to about 115 and my bodyfat is

probably under 10, b/c tanita is saying 13%. I have been eating around 1600

calories a day, and my metabolism has probably slowed down. I'm afraid that if I

gain weight too fast, I'll freak out and start restricting calories again. Any

recommendations for how many calories I should add every week and how much I

should be gaining a week? I'd like to get to 125 with 14 or 15% bodyfat.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the advice. I think slowly increasing the calories is the best bet

for me. I do track calories, but I shouldn't count the UDOs right? I should

probably only weigh myself once a week, instead of every day. Sometimes the day

to day fluctuations make me restrict calories when I know that I shouldn't.

ELIMINATING CARDIO?!? AHHH!!! :-) Also, by lifting heavy, should I be doing

something different than BFL? a 3 or 4 day split or something? Ok, so here's the

plan for next week

1 TBSP UDOs oil a day

weighing once a week

upping calories to 1800 next week

eliminate 1 day of cardio

Skwigg wrote:

If you track calories, start increasing your weekly average by 100 or

so calories each week. Like this week 1700, next week 1800, following

week 1900 until after 6 weeks or so you're in the 2100-2300 range.

Bring the portion sizes up gradually. Have some higher days at the new

level and some that are still at the lower levels. It's not like

you're going to accidentally gain 20 pounds in a week. If you start

feeling stuffed and bloated like you're gaining too fast, back the

calories down to the last level and hang out there for awhile before

increasing again. If you find yourself starving and maintaining or

losing weight, bump them up until you're feeling strong and something

is happening on the scale.

Assuming you're 115 pounds and 10% body fat now, in order to get up to

125 pounds and 15%, you're going to have to gain 7 pounds of fat and 3

pounds of lean mass. It's conceivable that you could pull that off in

a month by lifting heavy, by seriously and immediately increasing your

calories into the mid-2000 range, and by eliminating cardio.

However, it sounds like gaining that quickly might scare you silly.

Depending on your time frame and goals, you could maybe shoot for

adding a pound a week and turn it into a 10 week project. In your

case, there's certainly nothing wrong with reaching your goals early.

It's not like you should freak out if you gain 3 pounds in a week

instead of 1 pound. You should celebrate. Don't start second-guessing

and slashing your calories unless you quickly overshoot your goal of

125 pounds and 14-15%, which will probably read more like 18-22% on a

Tanita.

Check out Krista's tips on eating and training for healthy weight gain:

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displayarticle.php?aid=59

> What would be a good rate to gain every week? I've finally decided that I

really should gain some muscle and fat. I'm down to about 115 and my bodyfat is

probably under 10, b/c tanita is saying 13%. I have been eating around 1600

calories a day, and my metabolism has probably slowed down. I'm afraid that if I

gain weight too fast, I'll freak out and start restricting calories again. Any

recommendations for how many calories I should add every week and how much I

should be gaining a week? I'd like to get to 125 with 14 or 15% bodyfat.

[Guest guest]

Tara, is right. Just add a little at a time, so you don't

balk at a larger amount of food. 100 calories a day is only adding

fewer than 20 calories per meal. That is doable and should not set

off " freak-zone " mentality.

Barbara

> > What would be a good rate to gain every week? I've finally

decided that I really should gain some muscle and fat. I'm down to

about 115 and my bodyfat is probably under 10, b/c tanita is saying

13%. I have been eating around 1600 calories a day, and my

metabolism has probably slowed down. I'm afraid that if I gain

weight too fast, I'll freak out and start restricting calories

again. Any recommendations for how many calories I should add every

week and how much I should be gaining a week? I'd like to get to 125

with 14 or 15% bodyfat.

>

[Guest guest]

I just still have a hard time trusting myself. I'm such a black and white

thinker. My house is either spotless and super organized or just an absolute

mess. Same way with my eating. I'm either psycho calorie counter or I eat a

whole box of crackers. I need to find a middle ground

alysd38 <no_reply > wrote: Tara, is right. Just add a

little at a time, so you don't

balk at a larger amount of food. 100 calories a day is only adding

fewer than 20 calories per meal. That is doable and should not set

off " freak-zone " mentality.

Barbara

> > What would be a good rate to gain every week? I've finally

decided that I really should gain some muscle and fat. I'm down to

about 115 and my bodyfat is probably under 10, b/c tanita is saying

13%. I have been eating around 1600 calories a day, and my

metabolism has probably slowed down. I'm afraid that if I gain

weight too fast, I'll freak out and start restricting calories

again. Any recommendations for how many calories I should add every

week and how much I should be gaining a week? I'd like to get to 125

with 14 or 15% bodyfat.

>

[Guest guest]

Tara, look back on your life and make a list of the foods that

historically have sent you off on binges. Maybe it's a long list or

maybe it's a short list, but I think it will be revealing.

I doubt if green beans, UDO's, oatmeal, or cabbage are on the list

Maybe you are " sensitive " to products with flour or sugar or fried

foods? I know now that I am. I can now combine lots of tasty foods

that don't trigger me and enjoy eating. I don't do BIG mood swings or

big DIPS in my energy level as the months roll by.

It is something to investigate...

Your plan with the peanut butter and UDO's sounds great.

M.

>

> I just still have a hard time trusting myself. I'm such a black and

white thinker. My house is either spotless and super organized or just

an absolute mess. Same way with my eating. I'm either psycho calorie

counter or I eat a whole box of crackers. I need to find a middle ground

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe for the next few weeks you can think of this as trusting ¹s

advice, since you don¹t feel solid yet....gotta admit she¹s pretty smart

about this stuff Or you could think of it as a test. Either way, find a

new thought about this situation to replace ŒI don¹t trust myself¹ will

help a lot in reducing the anxiety you feel. I bet there are lots of things

in your life that you could list that you are great at and completely trust

yourself to make a good decision. You¹ve had to have made lots of good

decisions to become a teacher for instance.

I have no doubt you have what it takes achieve your goal. Your plan sounds

great too!

Hope that helps,

Laurie

> I just still have a hard time trusting myself. I'm such a black and white

> thinker. My house is either spotless and super organized or just an absolute

> mess. Same way with my eating. I'm either psycho calorie counter or I eat a

> whole box of crackers. I need to find a middle ground

>

> alysd38 <no_reply > wrote: Tara, is right. Just add a

> little at a time, so you don't

> balk at a larger amount of food. 100 calories a day is only adding

> fewer than 20 calories per meal. That is doable and should not set

> off " freak-zone " mentality.

>

[Guest guest]

Problem is, peanut butter is on that list,even the natural kind! I could eat

half the jar!

tjay1302000 wrote: Tara, look back on your life and

make a list of the foods that

historically have sent you off on binges. Maybe it's a long list or

maybe it's a short list, but I think it will be revealing.

I doubt if green beans, UDO's, oatmeal, or cabbage are on the list

Maybe you are " sensitive " to products with flour or sugar or fried

foods? I know now that I am. I can now combine lots of tasty foods

that don't trigger me and enjoy eating. I don't do BIG mood swings or

big DIPS in my energy level as the months roll by.

It is something to investigate...

Your plan with the peanut butter and UDO's sounds great.

M.

>

> I just still have a hard time trusting myself. I'm such a black and

white thinker. My house is either spotless and super organized or just

an absolute mess. Same way with my eating. I'm either psycho calorie

counter or I eat a whole box of crackers. I need to find a middle ground

>

[Guest guest]

Knowledge is power...

Just don't buy any peanut butter.

Try raw almonds, just plain from the bulk bin.

Stick with UDO's or flax oil. They are exactly what the human brain

is craving in a healthy way. Once it gets its daily supply alot of

the other " cravings " settle down to a managable level.

Rye crackers are crunchy, but don't trigger me.

Keep thinking and sharing the women on this group are great at coming

up with suggestions to think about.

Just take it one meal at a time

M.

>

> Problem is, peanut butter is on that list,even the natural kind! I

could eat half the jar!