Muscle twitching

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I get then in my legs as well as my legs sometimes going into spasms that

hurt like hell the doc gave me carbamazepine and it helps at least I think

that is the name of the drug I know it is for epilepsy to stop the firing of

nerves that do not kneed to fire anyway it has worked for me to ware it has

stopped about 1/3 which is better then it was before hope to be of some help

take care for now

Darkbeing

Muscle twitching

In a message dated 2/15/2001 2:27:13 AM Eastern

Standard Time,

handd1@... writes:

> For the fibromyalgia experts out there:

> Has anyone experienced muscle twitches? I mean,

this is really strange for

> me. I feel like my muscles are hooked up to a

strobe light, they just keep

> going and going. It is driving me NUTS!!!!! What

can I do for this? How

> does anyone cope with this?

>

>

#########I'm no expert, but yes I have the twitches

very bad. They are

enough to drive you crazing at times. The more I get

relaxed the worse they

seem to get. So I tell myself my bodys just telling

me to get off my butt

and get busy!!!!!! I take nothing for them

It's part of our lifes

now. I know of nothing they do give for them.

Sorry no help.

{{{Hugs}}}

Helen

I'm certainly no expert, not even sure I have it, but

my rheumy says it's muscle fatigue. I get them when I

have overdone, & am sore. Gee, you havent been

overdoing it, have you??????????? Hope you have gotten

some rest.

__

[Guest guest]

Frito

thanks for you post, though as you thought it would be, it was slightly

unnerving.

Our naturopath was treating us for lyme....and thinking back the muscle

twitching did stop when we were taking her various herbals and pills...

I dont know how I would do cleanses on my kids, or how else I could

help them detox, so I think I will go back to her.....she is just

rather expensive.

p.s. do you still use opaline? we ran out a couple of months

ago....sort of debating about ordering more or not.....doesnt opaline

help with detox also?

thanks for your insite frito

z

[Guest guest]

You asked me if I still used Opaline. No, I do not as I cannot afford everything. But when I used it, it helped me tremendously when I couldn't even function. I have so many other effective and/or cheaper methods of detoxing, that I don't need it for detox purposes. I also use the salt and c to transport the other things I am using. I mentioned earlier than Oxygen is able to penetrate any living thing, and this includes our cells. I was mainly using Opaline to transport the other things I was doing along with it. What I was taught was that during an inflammatory response, the cells become more rigid affecting the receptors and transmembrane potentials. Yikes...in other words, sometimes as with pharma drugs, they use the principal of a

carrier molecule of which in short is what I do with the salt and c instead of the oxygen.

About muscle twitching. Why is it twitching? Nerve conduction, mineral imbalance, immune response, toxin overload by whatever? In each of those then we come up with further questions. why, why, why? Yeah, it is un-nerving....lol a pun. But....if these things are small enough to penetrate our ears, nose, lungs, or go deep into tissues, something else is going on besides ectoparasitic infestation. Ectoparasites are just that. Oxygen breathers. How on earth can the oxygen breathing mite go that deep? Now we get into theory, of which there are many, but I am concerned with permanent relief. In staying on a more common sense approach, then wouldn't it make sense that the mites may transfer something? Why are so many of us suffering internally? Not all of us, but many of us?

Kids are so hard. The help and insight of a professional may just be worth a few consultations and the direction they can provide. Finances are such a huge issue with all of us, I can only say you must do what you feel is right. Not what anybody else thinks. I certainly don't want to inadvertantly influence that kind of decision in one direction or another.

I do want some of us to stop and really think about what may be going on with ourselves. It may or may not apply to anybody or everybody. Just consider.

With much respect for all.......Frito

From: zmooks <zuleikahwalker@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:50:30 PMSubject: Re: Muscle Twitching

Frito thanks for you post, though as you thought it would be, it was slightly unnerving.Our naturopath was treating us for lyme....and thinking back the muscle twitching did stop when we were taking her various herbals and pills...I dont know how I would do cleanses on my kids, or how else I could help them detox, so I think I will go back to her.....she is just rather expensive.p.s. do you still use opaline? we ran out a couple of months ago....sort of debating about ordering more or not.....doesnt opaline help with detox also?thanks for your insite fritoz

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Hi, Z! Are you using the 4-Herb generic Essiac tea? If so, perhaps

your kids would benefit from it, too. The instructions for children

from Herbal Healer Academy say " 1 teaspoon per 10 pounds of

bodyweight given 1-3 times a day depending on need. Best added to a

little broth or cream. "

http://www.herbalhealer.com/essiac.html

Herbal Healer Academy also has a homeopathic parasite detox for

children 1 year & up. Liquid drops - 2 ounces for $20.

" Safe for ages 1 year and up. I do not like to use any strong

herbals, especially wormwood, on children. They respond very well to

homeopathic formulations. Ages 1-3 - Use 3 drops under tongue or in a

little water twice daily. Ages 4 and above - Use 5 drops twice daily.

2 oz. bottle. "

http://www.herbalhealer.com/parasites.html

Marijah McCain was educated as a microbiologist & worked for a large

Canadian lab in the parasite & infection division before she became a

naturopath. She's been refining that for 30 years now. An interesting

& inspiring woman.

http://www.herbalhealer.com/marijah.html

Know how expensive a naturopath can be. Around here, it's $500 for

the initial consulation & that doesn't include labs or tests or any

supplements they may recommend. If my health insurance covered it,

I'd be there in a heartbeat. It doesn't, of course.

You can also " Ask the Naturopath " on Wednesday mornings from McCain's

website. http://www.herbalhealer.com/ask.php3

Trisha Springstead recommends pumpkin seed oil at the rate of 1 ounce

which equals 3 tablespoons a day. Can be taken as one dose in the

morning or broken into 3 doses of 1 tablespoon with a meal 3 times a

day. You can increase the dose to 2 tablespoons 3 times a day. She

says it tastes good & will clean the colon of any debris.

Haven't tried it yet as I've been taking the Colon Enhancer from

Herbal Healer Academy for the last 10 weeks. Think I'd sneak up on

the pumpkin seed oil dosages just in case it caused the runs.

Trisha says the Russians give the pumpkin seed oil to their children

as my mom gave me cod liver oil in the 50's.

Maybe that, along with the borscht beet soup keeps them healthy!

Best wishes, Sue

Frito thanks for you post, though as you thought it would be, it was

slightly unnerving.

Our naturopath was treating us for lyme....and thinking back the

muscle twitching did stop when we were taking her various herbals and

pills...

I dont know how I would do cleanses on my kids, or how else I could

help them detox, so I think I will go back to her.....she is just

rather expensive.

p.s. do you still use opaline? we ran out a couple of months

ago....sort of debating about ordering more or not.....doesnt opaline

help with detox also?

thanks for your insite frito

z

[Guest guest]

Sue,

That is an absolute keeper. Wonderful suggestions!!

Frito

From: Sue <sue@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:40:22 PMSubject: Re: Muscle Twitching

Hi, Z! Are you using the 4-Herb generic Essiac tea? If so, perhaps your kids would benefit from it, too. The instructions for children from Herbal Healer Academy say "1 teaspoon per 10 pounds of bodyweight given 1-3 times a day depending on need. Best added to a little broth or cream."http://www.herbalhe aler.com/ essiac.html Herbal Healer Academy also has a homeopathic parasite detox for children 1 year & up. Liquid drops - 2 ounces for $20."Safe for ages 1 year and up. I do not like to use any strong herbals, especially wormwood, on children. They respond very well to homeopathic formulations. Ages 1-3 - Use 3 drops under tongue or in a little water twice daily. Ages 4 and above - Use 5 drops twice daily. 2 oz. bottle."http://www.herbalhe aler.com/ parasites. htmlMarijah McCain was educated as a microbiologist & worked for a large Canadian lab in the parasite & infection division before she became a naturopath. She's been refining that for 30 years now. An interesting & inspiring woman.http://www.herbalhe aler.com/ marijah.htmlKnow how expensive a naturopath can be. Around here, it's $500 for the initial consulation & that doesn't include labs or tests or any supplements they may recommend. If my health insurance covered it, I'd be there in a heartbeat. It doesn't, of course.You can also "Ask the Naturopath" on Wednesday mornings from McCain's website. http://www.herbalhe aler.com/ ask.php3Trisha Springstead

recommends pumpkin seed oil at the rate of 1 ounce which equals 3 tablespoons a day. Can be taken as one dose in the morning or broken into 3 doses of 1 tablespoon with a meal 3 times a day. You can increase the dose to 2 tablespoons 3 times a day. She says it tastes good & will clean the colon of any debris.Haven't tried it yet as I've been taking the Colon Enhancer from Herbal Healer Academy for the last 10 weeks. Think I'd sneak up on the pumpkin seed oil dosages just in case it caused the runs.Trisha says the Russians give the pumpkin seed oil to their children as my mom gave me cod liver oil in the 50's.Maybe that, along with the borscht beet soup keeps them healthy!Best wishes, SueFrito thanks for you post, though as you thought it would be, it was slightly unnerving.Our naturopath was treating us for lyme....and thinking back the muscle twitching did stop when we were taking her various herbals and pills...I dont know how I would do cleanses on my kids, or how else I couldhelp them detox, so I think I will go back to her.....she is justrather expensive.p.s. do you still use opaline? we ran out a couple of monthsago....sort of debating about ordering more or not.....doesnt opalinehelp with detox also?thanks for your insite fritoz

[Guest guest]

Frito and sue

thank you both so very much for the indepth emails.

I saved all your links Sue.

I feel like I've got some direction again....

you guys are fabulous

z

[Guest guest]

That is some good feed back Frito. Hard to believe any of this is happening to any of us. It is scary that the unknowns are really unknowns.J.From: fritolay66 <fritolay66@...>Subject: Re: Re: Muscle Twitchingbird mites Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 12:06 PM

You asked me if I still used Opaline. No, I do not as I cannot afford everything. But when I used it, it helped me tremendously when I couldn't even function. I have so many other effective and/or cheaper methods of detoxing, that I don't need it for detox purposes. I also use the salt and c to transport the other things I am using. I mentioned earlier than Oxygen is able to penetrate any living thing, and this includes our cells. I was mainly using Opaline to transport the other things I was doing along with it. What I was taught was that during an inflammatory response, the cells become more rigid affecting the receptors and transmembrane potentials. Yikes...in other words, sometimes as with pharma drugs, they use the principal of a

carrier molecule of which in short is what I do with the salt and c instead of the oxygen.

About muscle twitching. Why is it twitching? Nerve conduction, mineral imbalance, immune response, toxin overload by whatever? In each of those then we come up with further questions. why, why, why? Yeah, it is un-nerving.. ..lol a pun. But....if these things are small enough to penetrate our ears, nose, lungs, or go deep into tissues, something else is going on besides ectoparasitic infestation. Ectoparasites are just that. Oxygen breathers. How on earth can the oxygen breathing mite go that deep? Now we get into theory, of which there are many, but I am concerned with permanent relief. In staying on a more common sense approach, then wouldn't it make sense that the mites may transfer something? Why are so many of us suffering internally? Not all of us, but many of us?

Kids are so hard. The help and insight of a professional may just be worth a few consultations and the direction they can provide. Finances are such a huge issue with all of us, I can only say you must do what you feel is right. Not what anybody else thinks. I certainly don't want to inadvertantly influence that kind of decision in one direction or another.

I do want some of us to stop and really think about what may be going on with ourselves. It may or may not apply to anybody or everybody. Just consider.

With much respect for all.......Frito

From: zmooks <zuleikahwalker>bird mitesSent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:50:30 PMSubject: Re: Muscle Twitching

Frito thanks for you post, though as you thought it would be, it was slightly unnerving.Our naturopath was treating us for lyme....and thinking back the muscle twitching did stop when we were taking her various herbals and pills...I dont know how I would do cleanses on my kids, or how else I could help them detox, so I think I will go back to her.....she is just rather expensive.p.s. do you still use opaline? we ran out a couple of months ago....sort of debating about ordering more or not.....doesnt opaline help with detox also?thanks for your insite fritoz

[Guest guest]

Is he on calcium? My son reacted like this to calcium. Taken him off it

and very slowly put him on K2. Our children have difficulty processing

calcium. They have an excess of it in their bodies and K2 will help to

channel it away from where it's causing damage, soft tissue, muscles and

brain to where it's needed - bones and teeth.

Sara

wozzothered wrote:

>

> Hi

> Hope you can help me, my son has been having muscle twitching since

> last august.

> I have tried upping his supps,nothing changed.I stopped all supps for

> 2 weeks no change.They seem to be stronger now as they are quite

> noticable.

> lynnexxx

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara

yes he is on calcium eap2,2 caps twice aday. I will stop and see how he

goes.

My son also eye pokes, hopefully that will go away too

cheers

lynne

Re: muscle twitching

Is he on calcium? My son reacted like this to calcium. Taken him off it

and very slowly put him on K2. Our children have difficulty processing

calcium. They have an excess of it in their bodies and K2 will help to

channel it away from where it's causing damage, soft tissue, muscles and

brain to where it's needed - bones and teeth.

Sara

wozzothered wrote:

>

> Hi

> Hope you can help me, my son has been having muscle twitching since

> last august.

> I have tried upping his supps,nothing changed.I stopped all supps for

> 2 weeks no change.They seem to be stronger now as they are quite

> noticable.

> lynnexxx

>

>

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DISCLAIMER

No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice.

If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified

practitioner.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 08/12/2009 15:51:03 GMT Standard Time, Moroza-@... writes:

The caps will be difficult to dose because you need to start with a very tiny amount. It can be very reactive particularly for those that need it most. I give drops. Does anyone else know how to dose the capsules?

>>I just opened the cap, squeezed a bit out and recapped it like I do when starting other supps.

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

I have just seen a couple of posts on another forum linking eye poking

to Movicol (Miralax, it was an American forum) and I know of a mum here

whose son eye pokes. I told her about it and she feels that Movicol may

be the cause in her son's case too. Is he on Movicol?

Sara

Wozzo wrote:

> Hi Sara

> yes he is on calcium eap2,2 caps twice aday. I will stop and see how he

> goes.

> My son also eye pokes, hopefully that will go away too

> cheers

> lynne

>

>

> Re: muscle twitching

>

>

> Is he on calcium? My son reacted like this to calcium. Taken him off it

> and very slowly put him on K2. Our children have difficulty processing

> calcium. They have an excess of it in their bodies and K2 will help to

> channel it away from where it's causing damage, soft tissue, muscles and

> brain to where it's needed - bones and teeth.

> Sara

>

> wozzothered wrote:

>

>> Hi

>> Hope you can help me, my son has been having muscle twitching since

>> last august.

>> I have tried upping his supps,nothing changed.I stopped all supps for

>> 2 weeks no change.They seem to be stronger now as they are quite

>> noticable.

>> lynnexxx

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice.

> If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified

> practitioner.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

my son is not on movicol, but has eye poke for years, even before biomed.

But thanks for your thoughts.

His eye poking went worst when I started gaps intro, and the twitching went

off the rails.

I have got back to scd, but will stop the calcium today and have ordered the

k2 see how it goes.

How long before i introduce the k2, and what dosage would you say, I have

ordered caps off mandimart,carlsons.

Sorry for all the questions.

bw

lynnexxx

Re: muscle twitching

>

>

> Is he on calcium? My son reacted like this to calcium. Taken him off it

> and very slowly put him on K2. Our children have difficulty processing

> calcium. They have an excess of it in their bodies and K2 will help to

> channel it away from where it's causing damage, soft tissue, muscles and

> brain to where it's needed - bones and teeth.

> Sara

>

> wozzothered wrote:

>

>> Hi

>> Hope you can help me, my son has been having muscle twitching since

>> last august.

>> I have tried upping his supps,nothing changed.I stopped all supps for

>> 2 weeks no change.They seem to be stronger now as they are quite

>> noticable.

>> lynnexxx

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical

advice.

> If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified

> practitioner.

>

[Guest guest]

The caps will be difficult to dose because you need to start with a very

tiny amount. It can be very reactive particularly for those that need it

most. I give drops. Does anyone else know how to dose the capsules?

Sara

Wozzo wrote:

> Hi

> my son is not on movicol, but has eye poke for years, even before biomed.

> But thanks for your thoughts.

> His eye poking went worst when I started gaps intro, and the twitching went

> off the rails.

> I have got back to scd, but will stop the calcium today and have ordered the

> k2 see how it goes.

> How long before i introduce the k2, and what dosage would you say, I have

> ordered caps off mandimart,carlsons.

> Sorry for all the questions.

> bw

> lynnexxx

>

> Re: muscle twitching

>>

>>

>> Is he on calcium? My son reacted like this to calcium. Taken him off it

>> and very slowly put him on K2. Our children have difficulty processing

>> calcium. They have an excess of it in their bodies and K2 will help to

>> channel it away from where it's causing damage, soft tissue, muscles and

>> brain to where it's needed - bones and teeth.

>> Sara

>>

>> wozzothered wrote:

>>

>>

>>> Hi

>>> Hope you can help me, my son has been having muscle twitching since

>>> last august.

>>> I have tried upping his supps,nothing changed.I stopped all supps for

>>> 2 weeks no change.They seem to be stronger now as they are quite

>>> noticable.

>>> lynnexxx

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>> DISCLAIMER

>> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical

>>

> advice.

>

>> If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified

>> practitioner.

>>

[Guest guest]

mandi , sara,

cheers for the info,

-----Original Message-----From: Autism Treatment [mailto:Autism Treatment ]On Behalf Of Mum231ASD@...Sent: 08 December 2009 16:06Autism Treatment Subject: Re: muscle twitching

In a message dated 08/12/2009 15:51:03 GMT Standard Time, Moroza-Tiscali (DOT) co.uk writes:

The caps will be difficult to dose because you need to start with a very tiny amount. It can be very reactive particularly for those that need it most. I give drops. Does anyone else know how to dose the capsules?

>>I just opened the cap, squeezed a bit out and recapped it like I do when starting other supps.

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

Just wondered if anyone else gets this? I have this throughout most of my body

now - used to be just my legs. My GP says its the thyroid most likely causing

the problem.

Lynne (Happy and Healthy New Year everyone!)

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynne,

Yes, I get this too - thankfully just in my legs at the moment. It's usually

when I relax, most notably when I'm just going off to sleep. Does that sound

similar to yours?

Happy and healthy new year to you too!

Becky

>

> Just wondered if anyone else gets this? I have this throughout most of my body

now - used to be just my legs. My GP says its the thyroid most likely causing

the problem.

>

> Lynne (Happy and Healthy New Year everyone!)

>

[Guest guest]

My legs twitched as a teenager (I was a competitive swimmer) and it was due to an electrolyte imbalance and mineral shortage.

Same thing started up a couple of years ago, and it goes away when I get enough potassium and magnesium in my system. I take both on a regular basis.

Fibrojay

[Guest guest]

Hi Becky - yes definitely most notable at night. It looks like I have little

creatures living under the skin!!

Lynne

> >

> > Just wondered if anyone else gets this? I have this throughout most of my

body now - used to be just my legs. My GP says its the thyroid most likely

causing the problem.

> >

> > Lynne (Happy and Healthy New Year everyone!)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

Finally got up the courage to ask about these tests (am I the only one

intimidated by GPs?) GP said they do not do transferrin saturation% as it is too

expensive, UNLESS the ferritin levels come back high.

Lynne

>

> Hi Lynne

>

> Instead of your GP putting the blame for this on your thyroid function, I

> would ask him instead to test the following nutrients and most particularly

> magnesium: iron, transferrin saturation%, ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3,

> folate, magnesium, copper and zinc levels.

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

> Just wondered if anyone else gets this? I have this throughout most of my body

now - used to be just my legs. My GP says its the thyroid most likely causing

the problem.

>

[Guest guest]

I get this too, almost exclusively in my legs but just occasionally in my arms

and torso too. I have found magnesium to be amazingly effective at stopping it.

I've also discovered that on occasion, eating certain foods will stop it -

cheese, cashews and sesame seeds have all worked for me. But not always -

possibly depending on what you've eaten already - I think it's the tryptophan

that does it!

> Same thing started up a couple of years ago, and it goes away when I get

> enough potassium and magnesium in my system. I take both on a regular

> basis.

>

> Fibrojay

>