Guest guest Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Emma, you need to find a doctor to look after you through your pregnancy who knows what s/he is doing and who knows that when their hypothyroid patients become pregnant, that their thyroid dosage must be increased. This is essential, and a free T4 is only 10.8 is screaming out for more thyroid hormone, either by way of an increase in your Armour Thyroid or the addition of 25mcgs levothyroxine. The Baby is using YOUR thyroxine and you need to replace this as a matter of urgency. How much Armour are you taking right now? If you did try increasing your Armour by half a grain, this might be the answer for you, and if you started to get symptoms of hyPERthyroidism, you could easily cut back on your dose again, but I very much doubt that in your circumstances you would. This would be the first route to try, and if that didn't work, then talk to your GP about a prescription for some T4. What other supplements are you taking? I would ask your GP (because of your level of fatigue) to test your levels of iron, transferrin saturation%, ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate (especially), copper and zinc and when you get these results, post them on the forum together with the ref. range for each of the tests done. Good luck Luv - Sheila x Free T4 10.8 (range 11-23) Free T3 5.4 (range 3.5-6.5) I have called the hopsital today to ask what he wants me to do and he has said that there is no action as I am taking enough Armour!! He seems terrified by the surpressed TSH. I just wondered if anyone had any thoughts as I know low T4 an be a risk in pregnancy and I am also feeling shattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 >thank you for replying Sheila. I am struggling with it all at the moment with the amount of Drs appts I am having and trying to work I am finding it so difficult to manage everything. I am taking pregnacare and the advice is as usual not to take anything else while pregnant. I am going to try another half a grain of Armour over the next few days and see how I get on. Will keep you posted. Thanks again Emma xx > Emma, you need to find a doctor to look after you through your pregnancy who > knows what s/he is doing and who knows that when their hypothyroid patients > become pregnant, that their thyroid dosage must be increased. This is > essential, [Ed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hi, I'm currently pregnant and I found that my FT3 went too high and my FT4 too low (I was on Erfa only) and so I dropped one of my grains of Erfa and got my GP to give me a prescription for 50mcg of levothyroxine. It worked for me Normally I don't convert T4 properly but during pregnancy I seem to manage to do that a bit better. I understand we should try to aim to keep our FT4 in the top half and preferably top third of the range. Good luck with the rest of your pregnancy, Cat. > > >thank you for replying Sheila. > I am struggling with it all at the moment with the amount of Drs appts I am having and trying to work I am finding it so difficult to manage everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Hi Emma, you need to read up on this problem, look in our files on the main page. we have some on pregnancy and the thyroid.also are you taking selenium,? this is very important you need this if hypo as it will help protect the baby also i suspect my pregnancy problemsstems from IgG antibodies while pregnant. apparently they can pass through to the placenta. small baby's and early baby's are a sign that their is hypoabout and learning problems are the auto-antibodies which can do damage to the foetus. hope this helps. the IgG is connected to allergy`s,!!! the both together is called the compliment system. as they are react together.all the best Angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 thank you for all your help Judith and Cat. I will try and read up some more about it all. I have been scared to take my Selenium as the docs advise that you only take pregnancy vits as some vits can be harmful. If anyone has anything they can add about vits they have taken during pregnancy I would be really grateful as it it can be so scary..... Thank you Emma xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Hi emma , have a look at marylin glenville website - she's has all the vits you should take and is a trustworthy source. My friend was advised to take vit d3, preg multi and a fish oil combination (but check which fish oils as some nt gd) I'd buy a multi from a good source thdn you cover most options. Think the marylin glenville one is good. My friend was advised by a fertility expert in complimentary field. Dr peatfield also told my sister to take as much thyroid as poss, altho not on too much but think more better than less. After 1st trimester don't think so much of a concern. Carly x Sent from my iPod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Hi Emma, the selenium may not be known to your doctor , so he can not say with certainty if it is OK . I would take this as it is very importantto someone who has hypothyroidism.selenium supplementation in the treatment of hashimoto`s thyroiditis a systematic review and meta-analysis.htm also-selenium supplementation in the treatment of hashimoto`s disease {thyroid.2010-pubmed-NCBI.htm.also you may wont to look at this-association between thyroid autoantibodies and miscarriage and preterm birth meta-analysis of evidence BMJ.htm.and at- http://www.crd.york.ac.uk/crdweb/showrecord.asp?accessionNumber=120110283. Angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 I have not heard that Selenium is dangerous for anybody who is pregnant. The usual recommended dose for those with hypothyroidism is 200mcgs daily, especially if your hypothyroidism has been caused through thyroid antibodies (Hashimoto's Disease). Are you seeing a Obs/Gynae specialist? If so, ask there, as more and more, we are finding that many GP's are learning little to nothing and their information cannot be relied on. Hopefully, somebody who has been very recently pregnant will come along and help with your question. Luv - Sheila thank you for all your help Judith and Cat. I will try and read up some more about it all. I have been scared to take my Selenium as the docs advise that you only take pregnancy vits as some vits can be harmful. If anyone has anything they can add about vits they have taken during pregnancy I would be really grateful as it it can be so scary..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Hi Emma I have just been reading your post I had a baby 9 weeks ago and I am on t4 and t3. I had major problems I. E an endo I was seeing at the time tried to get me to twice my meds as I would loose my baby if I didn't, I knew that was wrong a nd I had a perfectly healthy baby. Once I was in nhs and decided what hospital I was going to deliver to I was seen by the gyne make sure you get to seen ASAP wheb i seen the pregnancy endo specialist he said when you first find out you are pregnant you should increase your t4 by 25 mcg never decrease the first stage of pregnant he was disgusted and could not believe the other endo wanted to take me of my meds. Previous to getting pregnant my level were always in the upper ranges so when I did get pregnant I had a goo amount for my baby, my t3 dipped in the first 12 weeks but then went sky high but still ok. If you have any questions feel free to ask but I would get your t4 a little higher if you can. x > > I HAVE EDITED OUT THE DOCTORS NAME AS IT IS NOT PERMITTED TO PUT DOCTORS NAMES ON THE FORUM WITHOUT THEIR SPECIFIC PERMISSION. > Moderator > > > Dear all, > > you may recall I posted a while ago saying I was seeing a Dr B at Telford for my thyroid whilst pregnant and he was not keen on Armour and said he had no knowledge and would not be able to help me. > [Ed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Sorry also I never took selenium whilst pregnant I know it must be scary for you as I was afraid of my levels being too low. Your t4 def needs to be higher can I ask how far along you are ? > > I HAVE EDITED OUT THE DOCTORS NAME AS IT IS NOT PERMITTED TO PUT DOCTORS NAMES ON THE FORUM WITHOUT THEIR SPECIFIC PERMISSION. > Moderator > > > Dear all, > > you may recall I posted a while ago saying I was seeing a Dr B at Telford for my thyroid whilst pregnant and he was not keen on Armour and said he had no knowledge and would not be able to help me. [Ed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 HI ALL & EMMA, have sent information about Selenium------ yesterday!!!!!angel. what is the point of asking questions if no one in reading the answers. ummmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Hi Emma I also foud that my t3 worked better in pregnancy I was on 30 of t3 and reduced it to 25 in the third trimester now I'm on 20 after pregnancy. I don't know why but something must kick in x > > Hi, > I'm currently pregnant and I found that my FT3 went too high and my FT4 too low (I was on Erfa only) and so I dropped one of my grains of Erfa and got my GP to give me a prescription for 50mcg of levothyroxine. It worked for me Normally I don't convert T4 properly but [Ed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 ---Thank you all. I am 22 weeks now and yesterday wrote a long letter to my Endo at the hospital asking why he is saying no course of action needed. I have stated that I am suffering more Hypo symptoms again which I am and am worried for me and my baby so hopefully he will listen. I have also asked that all the tests Sheila recommends will be taken. Angel, I think I must have missed your post. can you redirect and also I am work 8 hours a day and at Uni in the evenings on a Monday so have not had time to catch up, but I do appreciate your help as I am sure we all do. thanks all Emma xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 You probably need to increase your T3 to what you were taking before . Could this be the reason you are feeling so bad? Luv - Sheila Hi Emma I also foud that my t3 worked better in pregnancy I was on 30 of t3 and reduced it to 25 in the third trimester now I'm on 20 after pregnancy. I don't know why but something must kick in x > > Hi, > I'm currently pregnant and I found that my FT3 went too high and my FT4 too low (I was on Erfa only) and so I dropped one of my grains of Erfa and got my GP to give me a prescription for 50mcg of levothyroxine. It worked for me Normally I don't convert T4 properly but [Ed] No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4733 - Release Date: 01/09/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Hi Emma, If you go to your message on the webgroup you can see all the responses with that heading laid out one below the other. That way you can be sure not to miss out on any part of a thread that interests you. Miriam > Angel, I think I must have missed your post. can you redirect and also I am work 8 hours a day and at Uni in the evenings on a Monday so have not had time to catch up, but I do appreciate your help as I am sure we all do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Hi Emma Did you have your levels checked in the first 12 weeks if so what were they. Your t4 could be low due to you convertibg all ibto t3 however i would increase your t4 I'd you can my levels were always middle of the range. x > > > > ---Thank you all. > > I am 22 weeks now and yesterday wrote a long letter to my Endo at the hospital asking why he is saying no course of action needed. > I have stated that I am suffering more Hypo symptoms again which I am and am worried for me and my baby so hopefully he will listen. > I have also asked that all the tests Sheila recommends will be taken. > > Angel, I think I must have missed your post. can you redirect and also I am work 8 hours a day and at Uni in the evenings on a Monday so have not had time to catch up, but I do appreciate your help as I am sure we all do. > > thanks all > > Emma xx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 HI yes I did have them checked and they were around 11/12 the twice I had blood tests done. To be honest they have never been much higher so I didn't think much of it but I am now starting to get symptoms back from before I was medicated and when I was on Thyroxine and it nearly finished me off. The worst part was the anxiety and mental health issues and I really can't cope with that and a new baby....:-( Here's hoping I get a sensible response from the specialist. Emma xx > > > > > > > > ---Thank you all. > > > > I am 22 weeks now and yesterday wrote a long letter to my Endo at the hospital asking why he is saying no course of action needed. > > I have stated that I am suffering more Hypo symptoms again which I am and am worried for me and my baby so hopefully he will listen. > > I have also asked that all the tests Sheila recommends will be taken. > > > > Angel, I think I must have missed your post. can you redirect and also I am work 8 hours a day and at Uni in the evenings on a Monday so have not had time to catch up, but I do appreciate your help as I am sure we all do. > > > > thanks all > > > > Emma xx > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 If they are refusing to increase your thyroid hormone replacement Emma, you really have no option but to do this yourself. It is essential that you have sufficient levels of thyroid hormone in your body because the baby uses yours, so you need enough for two. Let us know what your specialist has to say. Luv - Sheila yes I did have them checked and they were around 11/12 the twice I had blood tests done. To be honest they have never been much higher so I didn't think much of it but I am now starting to get symptoms back from before I was medicated and when I was on Thyroxine and it nearly finished me off. The worst part was the anxiety and mental health issues and I really can't cope with that and a new baby....:-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 hi Sheila he has asked me to go in two weeks today at an earlier appt so he can spend more time with me so we will see!! Thank you for your help Emma x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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