Re: Erfa - horrible feelings when leaving the system?

[Guest guest]

No problems like that for me.Lilian

Just wondered if anyone else experiences these sort of " withdrawl " symptoms when due another dose or completed dose for the day.

[Guest guest]

How much NDT are you taking and what time of day do you take it.

Are all your vitamins/minerals supplemented or are any of them low. How long

after your dose do these symptoms appear?

Luv - Sheila

Just wondered if anyone else experiences these

sort of " withdrawl " symptoms when due another dose or completed dose

for the day. I have been on Erfa for a while now (6mths +)and I have noticed

that sometimes these " strange " symptoms are difficult to handle. I

would describe it as a dragging feeling in the chest and a lowering of the

voice - it is difficult to describe. When I was first commenced on Erfa my Endo

did say that he was reluctant to use NDT because of these withdrawl symptoms,

although I must say it has helped me more that thyroxine. Would value any input

on this.

Thanks

Han

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[Guest guest]

Han,

I've not had this symptom but my depression and cold feet do return quite

quickly.

How are you taking your meds? sublingual or swallowing them? If the latter, you

need to crunch them up first (i was told this by dr hertoghe)

have you considered splitting your dose differently or perhaps even increasing?

chris

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> Just wondered if anyone else experiences these sort of " withdrawl " symptoms

when due another dose or completed dose for the day. I have been on Erfa for a

while now (6mths +)and I have noticed that sometimes these " strange " symptoms

are difficult to handle.

[Guest guest]

Hi Chris

Thanks for your reply. I usually swallow the dose I have never chewed or crushed

them will try that option.

Han

> --- In thyroid treatment , " ainne70 " <hannahleahy@> wrote

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> > Just wondered if anyone else experiences these sort of " withdrawl " symptoms

when due another dose or completed dose for the day. I have been on Erfa for a

while now (6mths +)and I have noticed that sometimes these " strange " symptoms

are difficult to handle.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply Sheila

My vits etc are all ok have had them checked recently. I take 60mgs NDT in

divided doses, I was on 90 but the endo Dr P asked me to reduce to 60mgs a month

ago as my T3 was slightly raised.

I felt hypoi on the lower dose but tried to stick it out for a few weeks but now

I feel I need the 90mgs again.

Ican get the symptoms usually about two hrs after taking my meds.Although the

symptoms are not constant these last few days have been particulary troublesome.

Han

>

> How much NDT are you taking and what time of day do you take it. Are all

> your vitamins/minerals supplemented or are any of them low. How long after

>

[Guest guest]

yeah you can either put them under your tongue and let them dissolve, or, i was

told by Dr Hertoghe to crush the Erfa then swallow it. (I was told either option

is fine)

C

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> Hi Chris

> Thanks for your reply. I usually swallow the dose I have never chewed or

crushed them will try that option.

> Han

[Guest guest]

Raised by how much? and was the ndt taken before the test, or after?

is it possible to take 75, not 90? (you can get 30mg tablets)

Chris

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I was on 90 but the endo Dr P asked me to reduce to 60mgs a month ago as my T3

was slightly raised.

[Guest guest]

With Erfa - they are designed to be taken sublingually, meaning

you place the tablet under your tongue where the sublingual gland is and it is

gradually absorbed through the tiny capillaries directly into the blood stream.

This way, it bypasses the stomach where some of the potency gets lost.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Chris

Thanks for your reply. I usually swallow the dose I have never chewed or

crushed them will try that option.

Han

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[Guest guest]

Han, had you taken your Erfa on the morning you had your blood

tested? If so, ask Dr P if you can be retested after stopping your thyroid meds

for 24 hours. He was shocked to see one of my results for free T3 was 10

something, and I told him I had forgotten and taken my thyroid that morning, so

I went back in a couple of days and got retested after not taking any meds.

that morning, and the result had dropped down to around 4.3. If you raise your

dose back to 90mgs he will not mind. He leaves me to use whatever dose I feel

is best and just makes a note of this in my medical notes.

Luv - Sheila

Thanks for your reply Sheila

My vits etc are all ok have had them checked recently. I take 60mgs NDT in

divided doses, I was on 90 but the endo Dr P asked me to reduce to 60mgs a

month ago as my T3 was slightly raised.

I felt hypoi on the lower dose but tried to stick it out for a few weeks but

now I feel I need the 90mgs again.

Ican get the symptoms usually about two hrs after taking my meds.Although the

symptoms are not constant these last few days have been particulary

troublesome.

Han

>

> How much NDT are you taking and what time of day do you take it. Are all

> your vitamins/minerals supplemented or are any of them low. How long after

>

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Sheila, I hadnt taken my meds on the day of the test and I felt ok on the 90mgs.

I cant remember by how much my T3 was raised exactly but I knw it was just

slightly elevated. My T4 was low in the range (I know it usually is when taking

NDT) but Dr P suggested I take Thyroxine 25mcgs at night and it has helped.

I did stay on the lower dose of Erfa for aboput a month then went to 75mgs ( I

do take the 30mg tabs) but I had to go back to 90 mgs this last couple of weeks

as I did feel hypo (I think the cold weather plays its part as well!) I have

contacted Dr P to have a repeat blood test, he was supposed to see me before

Christmas and I was waiting on a call from him - but he does seem to have a lot

on, and has just got a new secretary as well. I agree he is very caring and pays

great attention and listens to his patient - I am lucky to be under his care,

and Im sure he will understand why I needed to go back to 90mgs

Han

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> Han, had you taken your Erfa on the morning you had your blood tested? If

> so, ask Dr P if you can be retested after stopping your thyroid meds for 24