Do I have a thyroid problem?

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Hello again! I wrote a message this morning but i didn´t get an answer... i don´t want to be too insistent, maybe you didn´t have time to answer... but just in case i send it again.Thank you again in advance for all the work you do helping others

Hello Sheila! And everybody else ;)First of all I wanted to wish you all a happy new year. Hoping this year will be a very good one!I wrote to you before christmas and you advised me to get some blood tests done.I now have my results and would like to ask you if you think i have a thyroid problem or if you think i should benefit from thyroid replacement therapy.It seems to me a big coincidence that most of the things you advised me to check are pretty low.I was diagnosed with cfs 12 years ago, but i´ve always felt that my cfs is very strange because i don´t have some of the main symptoms others do. I can do exercise and I don´t have post exertional fatigue. So I´ve always been kind of reluctant to admit that my

problem is cfs.

A friend advised me to look into this thyroid group after talking about my thyroid results that showed very high ab anti tiroglobulin.I´m so thankful to her and to all of you for opening a little door for me and giving me some hope :)I leave here the results of my blood tests.Could you please tell me what you think I should do? Thank you so so very much in advanceLove,

TSH____________ 1,10 mU/L

(0,35-5,5)

T4______________ 7,9 ug/dL

(4,5-11,5)

FT4_____________ 1,10 ng/dL (0,8-1,8)

T3_______________0,9 ug/L

(0,6-1,9)

FT3______________2,99 ng/L (2,3-4,2)

ANTIBODIES

AB Anti Tiroglobulin____________ 166,1

Ul/mL ( <60 )

TPO _______________________________ 43,7

Ul/mL (

<60 )

VITAMINS

Folic Acid__________________________ 6,44

ng/mL (>

5,38 )

Vit B12 ____________________________ 375

pg/mL

( 211- 911 )

Vitamin D 25OH __________________ 28,7

ng/mL

Deficiency: less than 10 ng/mL

Insuficiency: from 10 to 30 ng/mL

Suficiency: from 30 to 100 ng/mL

Toxicity: more than 100 ng/mL

METALS

Copper _____________________________ 82

ug/dL ( 80-155 )

Magnesium _________________________ 1,98

mg/dL (1,7- 2,6 )

Zinc _________________________________ 95

ug/dL (60 – 150 )

Iron

________________________________ 75 ug/dL ( 40 – 150 )

% Saturation of Transferrin ______ 20

%

( 20 – 55)

Transferrin _________________________ 302

mg /dL ( 200- 360 )

Ferritin _____________________________ 16

ng/mL ( 10 – 120 )

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Hi

First, I see that you

have just sent a second message wondering why you have not yet had a response

to this message which you only sent this morning at 12.42p.m.  I just need to

make it clear to all our members that we have over 2730 members on this forum,

and it can, at times, become extremely busy and sometimes, a lot of work has to

go into responding to just one member. This forum is run voluntarily, nobody

gets paid, and sometimes, we are not able to answer people's messages for quite

some time - as we have to wait to get information from elsewhere, i.e. medical

advisers etc. Today, for the first time this week, I had to go shopping, and as

yet, not everybody is back to working normally since the Christmas and new year

holidays, so please, everybody, be patient with us. We do our best to keep on top

of things.

If, after a decent

period of time, you find that nobody has responded to your questions (and it

happens!), then simply write BUMP at the top of your message, and send to the

forum again.

CFS is a symptom of

hypothyroidism, but doctors will give you this diagnosis if your thyroid

function test results are normal but you still complain of symptoms. CFS can be

treated with some form of T3, either synthetic or natural thyroid extract.

I have removed the

blood tests that we are either not interested in or are 'normal' and placed my

comments alongside the other results .

TSH____________

1,10 mU/L (0,35-5,5) - This looks fine, but TSH on its own is of

no use to man nor beast.

FT4_____________

1,10 ng/dL (0,8-1,8) -  This look too high. For somebody taking no

thyroid hormone replacement it should be just above the middle of the reference

range.

FT3______________2,99

ng/L (2,3-4,2) - This is too low. T3 is the active thyroid

hormone that every cell in the body and brain need to make them function. Thyroxine

(T4) is a mainly inactive thyroid hormone that must convert to T3 in the liver,

kidneys and other thyroid hormone receptors throughout the body. Because of the

high level in the blood of free T4 and the low level of free T3, it could be

that your thyroxine is NOT converting to T3, and this is why you have

continuing symptoms.

AB

Anti Tiroglobulin____________ 166,1

Ul/mL ( <60 ) - too high. Thyroid antibodies see your

thyroid gland as public enemy number one and sets about its total gradual

destruction. This is called Hashimoto's thyroiditis and is a cause of

hypothyroidism. All causes of hypothyroidism are treated in the same way. You

defiitely suffer with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis.

TPO

_______________________________ 43,7

Ul/mL (

<60 ) TPO antibodies are

also used to diagnosed Hashimoto's. Yours are not over the range on this test,

but could be on another. If you have your blood tested whilst you are having an

antibody attack, they would read high, but if they were not attacking at that

time, your reading would be lower. Do you have a goitre, or any pain in your

thyroid area at any time?

Folic

Acid__________________________ 6,44 ng/mL (>

5,38 ) Looks low.

Talk to your GP about this but you can add between 400mcgs and 800 mcgs of

folic acid

Vit

B12 ____________________________ 375 pg/mL

( 211- 911 ), Too low. B12 should

be right at the the top of the reference range. Again, talk to your GP about

possibly having a course of B12 injections, or you can take B12 sublingually (Solgar

1000mcgs daily). You could start with 1000mcgs twice daily to start to boost

your B12.

Vitamin

D 25OH __________________ 28,7 ng/mL Don't understand this result. Did this test

vitamin D3 or D2?

Copper

_____________________________ 82

ug/dL ( 80-155 ) Copper is very low.

Magnesium

_________________________ 1,98 mg/dL (1,7- 2,6 )

Zinc

_________________________________ 95

ug/dL (60 – 150 ) Zinc you can test your level by putting a

15mgs zinc tablet in your mouth and chewing on it. If you have an immediate

taste of copper, pretty nasty, your zinc levels are fine. If however, it tastes

of chalk, you should supplement with 15mgs zinc daily.

Iron

________________________________ 75 ug/dL ( 40 –

150 ) Too low

%

Saturation of Transferrin ______ 20

% ( 20

– 55) Too low

Ferritin

_____________________________ 16 ng/mL ( 10 – 120 ) TERRIBLE. Ferritin level should between 70

and 90 in that reference range.

Hope this helps.

Luv - Sheila

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Hi Sheila,I´m very very sorry to have insisted with my message. I totally understand everything you tell me and was aware of that.I´m sorry it looked as if I was impatient and demanding an answer in just a short period of time. I was just worried that my message hadn´t been read, but I realize now that it was wrong. You read all the messages and some can take some time to be answered.I´m sorry again, I really appreciate all the work you do to help others with no pay. I´ve been helped so many times by people like you I really don´t know where i would be if I hadn´t been helped in this way.Thank you for all your explanations of everything, it´s the first time in 12 years that I

feel that everything may have an answer. :)What do you think my next step should be? Do you think it´s possible to find an endocrine that will think i have a thyroid problem even if my test results are "normal"? Should I start taking natural thyroid extract?Thank you again for everything, you are helping me very very much!Love, Hi

If, after a decent

period of time, you find that nobody has responded to your questions (and it

happens!), then simply write BUMP at the top of your message, and send to the

forum again. CFS is a symptom of

hypothyroidism, but doctors will give you this diagnosis if your thyroid

function test results are normal but you still complain of symptoms. CFS can be

treated with some form of T3, either synthetic or natural thyroid extract.

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I too have 'normal' well nearly normal results for TSH, FT3, FT4. But my other

bloods were low B12, low Iron, etc. It is amazing how much better I am feeling

with HEAVY supplementation of the low vitamins.

Get started on B12 sub lingual, Iron and Vit C. I take 5000 (I forgot the dosage

squiggle) of Vit D3 and that has been heaven sent in its results. Plus a good

quality multi vit. I may rattle now, but that is a small price to pay for

feeling that I can now DO stuff and that I'm not a miserable old fat women

destined for ridicule all my life.

My thyroid has been trying to work, but years of low iron, low B12 etc have

meant I have been unable to use the hormones to a decent effect. I still have a

long way to go, but I am a changed woman, just with vitamins.

> What do you think my next step should be? Do you think it´s possible to find

an endocrine that will think i have a thyroid problem even if my test results

are " normal " ? Should I start taking natural thyroid extract?

> Thank you again for everything, you are helping me very very much!

> Love,

>

>

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Hi

The first thing you need to do is to get specific minerals and

vitamins tested i.e. iron, transferrin saturation, ferritin, vitamin B12,

vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc. Once you have the results for

these post them here, together with the reference range for each of the tests

done. We will then help with their interpretation and tell you what you should

do then, according to the results.

Is there any chance you could see either of our medical

advisers, i.e. Dr Gordon Skinner (birmingham) or Dr Barry Peatfield (Crawley -

and other clinics throughout the UK). Both of these doctors know much more

about the workings of the great thyroid system than the majority of

endocrinologists. Alternatively I will send you a copy of my list of recommended

doctors and you may choose to ask your GP to refer you to one of them. Be

prepared to travel though.

Luv - Sheila

Thank you

for all your explanations of everything, it´s the first time in 12 years that I

feel that everything may have an answer.

What do

you think my next step should be? Do you think it´s possible to find an

endocrine that will think i have a thyroid problem even if my test results are

" normal " ? Should I start taking natural thyroid extract?

Thank you again for everything, you are helping me very very much!

Love,