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thyroid treatment From: cemmaline@...Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:40:22 +0000Subject: What do you think of my test results?

the 1st number is my number the highlighted is the test ranges

Chloride 110 98-109calcium 8.4 8.5-10.5Protein, total 5.9 6.3-8.0Bun/CreatinineRatio 32 7-24Ferritin 6 6-250TSH+Reflex 1.660 .4-5.0hemoglobin 11.5 11.6-15.5thyroglobinautoantibodies <20 0.0-40.0thyroid peroxidaseantibodies <10 0.0-35

My Basal Body Temp is 96.1-96.4

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Ferritin only 6 - I cannot believe this. What is

your doctor doing about this. If this result is correct, you need a course of

iron injections as a matter of some urgency. Ferritin should be somewhere in

the region of 90 for a woman and 150 for a man.

Did they not test your free T4 and free T4? TSH

is absolutely no good on its own, and your doctor should be checking out your

symptoms and signs especially with a basal temperature of only 96.1 degrees F. You

need testing also to check your levels of iron, transferrin saturation, vitamin

B12, vitamin D3, folate, magnesium, copper and zinc.

Luv - Sheila

Ferritin 6 6-250

My Basal Body Temp is 96.1-96.4

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yes, but these antibodies are not high, but the low ferritin

could be because of some other infection going on in the body.

Sheila

high antibodies means infection!

the 1st number is my number the highlighted is

the test ranges

Chloride 110 98-109

calcium 8.4 8.5-10.5

Protein, total 5.9 6.3-8.0

Bun/Creatinine

Ratio 32 7-24

Ferritin 6 6-250

TSH+Reflex 1.660 .4-5.0

hemoglobin 11.5 11.6-15.5

thyroglobin

autoantibodies <20 0.0-40.0

thyroid peroxidase

antibodies <10 0.0-35

My Basal Body Temp is 96.1-96.4

No

virus found in this message.

Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4745 - Release Date: 01/15/12

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I take 250 mg ferrous sulfate for the ferritin.

As far infection Since my thyroid has been removed I have gotten numerous food

allergies. I am allergic to beef, shellfish, peanuts, dairy, gluten, Chicken

and turkey (because of the added things they inject into these foods), and eggs.

The last time I got T4 done was in '08 it was

Free T4 1.5 0.8 - 1.9

Free T3 3.7 1.4 - 4.7

TSH 1.5 0.4 - 4.7

>

> Ferritin only 6 - I cannot believe this. What is your doctor doing about

> this. If this result is correct, you need a course of iron injections as a

> matter of some urgency. Ferritin should be somewhere in the region of 90 for

> a woman and 150 for a man.

>

> Did they not test your free T4 and free T4? TSH is absolutely no good on its

> own, and your doctor should be checking out your symptoms and signs

> especially with a basal temperature of only 96.1 degrees F. You need testing

> also to check your levels of iron, transferrin saturation, vitamin B12,

> vitamin D3, folate, magnesium, copper and zinc.

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

> Ferritin 6 6-250

>

> My Basal Body Temp is 96.1-96.4

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> No virus found in this message.

> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4744 - Release Date: 01/15/12

>

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You need to take more Ferrous Sulphate, around 200mgs three

times daily, or better still you need a course of iron injections. Why have you

not had your thyroid function tested since 2008 - this is four years ago. Ask

for these to be tested again, and if your GP doesn't follow this up with the

laboratory carrying out the tests (or who might be refusing to do the tests)

then ask for a referral to an endocrinologist who will do these tests. With low

thyroid, you can be open to many intolerances. Check out the attached document

and go through all of these by way of a process of elimination to find out the

cause for your problems.'

Luv - Sheila

I take 250 mg ferrous sulfate for the ferritin.

As far infection Since my thyroid has been removed I have gotten numerous food

allergies. I am allergic to beef, shellfish, peanuts, dairy, gluten, Chicken

and turkey (because of the added things they inject into these foods), and

eggs.

The last time I got T4 done was in '08 it was

Free T4 1.5 0.8 - 1.9

Free T3 3.7 1.4 - 4.7

TSH 1.5 0.4 - 4.7

>

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I had my test done in June 2011, the T4 test was just last done in 08, thats

all. I take the meds 2x a day.

>

> You need to take more Ferrous Sulphate, around 200mgs three times daily, or

> better still you need a course of iron injections. Why have you not had your

> thyroid function tested since 2008 - this is four years ago. Ask for these

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one more thing I forgot to mention I am suppose to take something for low

adrenals and was taking DHEA 25mg but I went through some stuff and got out of

the habit so I will be starting up again. I will look through the adrenals

info. Thanks

>

>

> I take 250 mg ferrous sulfate for the ferritin.

> As far infection Since my thyroid has been removed I have gotten numerous food

allergies. I am allergic to beef, shellfish, peanuts, dairy, gluten, Chicken

and turkey (because of the added things they inject into these foods), and eggs.

> The last time I got T4 done was in '08 it was

> Free T4 1.5 0.8 - 1.9

> Free T3 3.7 1.4 - 4.7

> TSH 1.5 0.4 - 4.7

>

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I am sorry for all the messages but I also forgot to mention, I do not take

thyroid meds because I can't find a Dr to prescribe them to me despite the fact

I can only lose weight if I eat 500 cal or less a day and I live a gluten free,

sugar free, vegan lifestyle (because of allergies). I am obese and depressed

over this, I also exercise regularly.

> >

> > You need to take more Ferrous Sulphate, around 200mgs three times daily, or

> > better still you need a course of iron injections. Why have you not had your

> > thyroid function tested since 2008 - this is four years ago. Ask for these

>

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Have you asked your GP to refer you to an endocrinology ?

You might do better by writing a letter to him asking for the letter to be

placed into your medical notes.

Start by telling your doctor that you are determined to do

everything possible to find the cause of your symptoms (but don't go on about

weight loss, because that will only make the doctor believe you want thyroid

hormone to help you lose weight). Tell him that you hope he will work with you

to try to find an answer.

List all of your present symptoms and signs (check these against

those in our web site www.tpa-uk.porg.uk

)

List your basal temperatures for 4 or 5 mornings before you get

out of bed if yours are 97.8 degrees F(36.6 degrees C, or less)

List any members of your family who have a thyroid or autoimmune

disease as it can come down the family line.

List the full thyroid function tests you need, i.e. TSH, free

T4, free T3, TPO and Tg antibodies.

Ask also that the following specific minerals and vitamins be

tested because if any of these are low in the reference range, even your own

thyroid hormone cannot be fully utilised at the cellular level until whatever

is low has been diagnosed and treated with supplements. These are iron,

transferrin saturation%, ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, folate, magnesium,

copper and zinc. Ask that when the results have come back for a copy of these,

together with the reference range for each test done. (you can then post these

on the forum and we will help with their interpretation)

Ask for a referral to an endocrinologist if your GP will not do

these tests for you.

Send the letter to your GP and again, don't forget to ask for it

to be placed into your medical notes and keep a copy for yourself. Ask the

doctor to let you know when it would be convenient to go in for the blood tests

you require.

Hope this helps

Luv - Sheila

I am sorry for all the messages but I also

forgot to mention, I do not take thyroid meds because I can't find a Dr to

prescribe them to me despite the fact I can only lose weight if I eat 500 cal

or less a day and I live a gluten free, sugar free, vegan lifestyle (because of

allergies). I am obese and depressed over this, I also exercise regularly.

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I think you probably were taking Nutri Adrenal Extra that you

can buy through Nutri Ltd with a 33% discount for TPA members. Check our FILES

section accessible form the Home Page of this forum .

Luv - sheila

one more thing I forgot to mention I am suppose to take something for low

adrenals and was taking DHEA 25mg but I went through some stuff and got out of

the habit so I will be starting up again. I will look through the adrenals info.

Thanks

>

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I just found this post by you Sheila- Thanks I will do but right now I am

waiting to see a new dr and her wait list is a 3month long one and I had to

reschedule the last appt due to a family emergency and now I have to wait till

March to go see new dr. What is the saliva test I keep reading about?

>

> Have you asked your GP to refer you to an endocrinology ? You might do

> better by writing a letter to him asking for the letter to be placed into

> your medical notes.

>

> Start by telling your doctor that you are determined to do everything

> possible to find the cause of your symptoms (but don't go on about weight

> loss, because that will only make the doctor believe you want thyroid

> hormone to help you lose weight). Tell him that you hope he will work with

> you to try to find an answer.

>

> List all of your present symptoms and signs (check these against those in

> our web site www.tpa-uk.porg.uk )

>

> List your basal temperatures for 4 or 5 mornings before you get out of bed

> if yours are 97.8 degrees F(36.6 degrees C, or less)

>

> List any members of your family who have a thyroid or autoimmune disease as

> it can come down the family line.

>

> List the full thyroid function tests you need, i.e. TSH, free T4, free T3,

> TPO and Tg antibodies.

>

> Ask also that the following specific minerals and vitamins be tested because

> if any of these are low in the reference range, even your own thyroid

> hormone cannot be fully utilised at the cellular level until whatever is low

> has been diagnosed and treated with supplements. These are iron, transferrin

> saturation%, ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, folate, magnesium, copper

> and zinc. Ask that when the results have come back for a copy of these,

> together with the reference range for each test done. (you can then post

> these on the forum and we will help with their interpretation)

>

> Ask for a referral to an endocrinologist if your GP will not do these tests

> for you.

>

> Send the letter to your GP and again, don't forget to ask for it to be

> placed into your medical notes and keep a copy for yourself. Ask the doctor

> to let you know when it would be convenient to go in for the blood tests you

> require.

>

> Hope this helps

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I am sorry for all the messages but I also forgot to mention, I do not take

> thyroid meds because I can't find a Dr to prescribe them to me despite the

> fact I can only lose weight if I eat 500 cal or less a day and I live a

> gluten free, sugar free, vegan lifestyle (because of allergies). I am obese

> and depressed over this, I also exercise regularly.

>

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The saliva test you keep hearing about is the 24 h our saliva

adrenal profile. This measures the amount of cortisol and DHEA at four specific

times during the day, i.e. 8,00a.m. 12 noon, 4.00p.m. and again at midnight.

Check out the attached document to show the many associated conditions that can

go along with being hypothyroid. Low adrenal reserve is just one of these. Go

to our FILES thyroid treatment

and in the list that opens, click on 'Discounts on Tests and Supplements'. On

that page, click on 'Genova Diagnostics' and check out the tests they do. You

will see that if you want to get a discount on the cost, you need to quote

'Thyroid Patient Advocacy' as your medical practitioner. The results will be

sent direct to you, so you need to post the results on the forum with the

reference range for each time the test was done and we will help with the

interpretation.

Genova send you a test kit which comprises four little test

tubes and four straws. You place the straw in one test tube and the other end

in your mouth and you then spit down the straw until you have almost filled the

little test tube. You then send it back to them and the results should reach

you in about 10 days. Check out the other tests they do too.

Also, when you respond to a message, please would you remember

to delete most of the previous messages you are responding to and leave just a

few lines of what you are responding to, as it is very frustrating having to

scroll through so many messages that have already been read, for those who have

used the option to receive either a Daily Digest or who read direct from the

forum web site.

You will soon get used to it.

Three months is an awful long time to wait to see a doctor -

hope she is worth it!

Luv - Sheila

I just found this post by you Sheila- Thanks I

will do but right now I am waiting to see a new dr and her wait list is a

3month long one and I had to reschedule the last appt due to a family emergency

and now I have to wait till March to go see new dr. What is the saliva test I

keep reading about?

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WHY THYROID HORMONE REPLACEMENT MAY NOT BE WORKING FOR YOU.doc

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