Guest guest Posted January 26, 2001 Report Share Posted January 26, 2001 My friend has problem with high blood pressure. She hs been taking medication and is not comfortable about it. She is now taking Cardura...does anybody know anything about this drug? She said that one of the risk factors stated is heart failure! What can you do when you have high blood pressure? Below is her note to me. Any advice is appreciated! Since summer I've taken a series of 3 different meds for bp, because none has worked. At least the first two didn't. When the second one (Mavik) didn't work after many months, the doctor prescribed a new one (Cardura) but expected me to keep taking the first one too, to " protect the kidneys " . I said no to that. So I started the third Rx. I don't know if there's any connection but I have not been able to shake this cold. I was supposed to go back to the doctor this morning at 8:00 to see if this one is working, but he wasn't going to be in till 9:00 and I just decided to hell with it. I don't want to keep taking pills every day, I have no idea what they're doing to me, and I did read that Cardura seems to increase risk of heart failure, which I'm going to tell the doctor. I'm going to go back to the Chinese doc for bp. Anyway, I love avocados so will start eating more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2001 Report Share Posted August 13, 2001 Caffeine is the major cause of HBP. Get off coffee, tea, and carbonated beverages, and check for cadmium in the tap water. Cadmium comes from galvanized pipes. Blood pressure is controlled by the adrenals, and a kidney cleanse would benefit them and the kidneys. The cleanse makes one feel really good and you feel how the kidneys and heart work together while you're on it! http://www..net/info/kidney.htm You can do without the HCL, Black Cherry concentrate, B2, and Sweetening. Don't let all the ingredients overwhelm you. The Self Health Resource Center has the whole kit available for one price. It may not be listed here, but you can call the 1-800 # and ask. It's about $80.00 or so for 3+ weeks of taking the herbs. http://www.shrc.net/Products/Bulk_Products/bulk_products.html I think Donna was offering the herbs in capsules, but how that compares to the real cleanse, I don't know. --- Crook <gwc@...> wrote: > A good friend has high blood pressure and she's been > on b.p. drugs for about 5 years. Can anyone provide > insight into the causative factors for it and what > can be done? The drugs sure aren't getting at the > root causes. > > Greg > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2001 Report Share Posted August 13, 2001 Caffeine is the major cause of HBP. Get off coffee, tea, and carbonated beverages, and check for cadmium in the tap water. Cadmium comes from galvanized pipes. Blood pressure is controlled by the adrenals, and a kidney cleanse would benefit them and the kidneys. The cleanse makes one feel really good and you feel how the kidneys and heart work together while you're on it! http://www..net/info/kidney.htm You can do without the HCL, Black Cherry concentrate, B2, and Sweetening. Don't let all the ingredients overwhelm you. The Self Health Resource Center has the whole kit available for one price. It may not be listed here, but you can call the 1-800 # and ask. It's about $80.00 or so for 3+ weeks of taking the herbs. http://www.shrc.net/Products/Bulk_Products/bulk_products.html I think Donna was offering the herbs in capsules, but how that compares to the real cleanse, I don't know. --- Crook <gwc@...> wrote: > A good friend has high blood pressure and she's been > on b.p. drugs for about 5 years. Can anyone provide > insight into the causative factors for it and what > can be done? The drugs sure aren't getting at the > root causes. > > Greg > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2001 Report Share Posted August 14, 2001 May I ask your source or reference for this information? Wong In a message dated 08/13/2001 12:18:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, vkyama@... writes: > Caffeine is the major cause of HBP. Get off coffee, > tea, and carbonated beverages, and check for cadmium > in the tap water. Cadmium comes from galvanized > pipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2001 Report Share Posted August 14, 2001 In a message dated 08/14/2001 7:57:51 AM Central Daylight Time, wayne@... writes: > >Blood pressure is controlled by the adrenals, and a > >kidney cleanse would benefit them and the kidneys. > >The cleanse makes one feel really good and you feel > >how the kidneys and heart work together while you're > >on it! > ><http://www..net/info/kidney.htm> > http://www..net/info/kidney.htm > > This is an awesome recipe for sure. Considering the problems I have > with much simpler recipes, I would hate to tackle this one. > > I drink a ton of water and eat a better than average selection or raw > foods and nuts. > > Still..... my blood pressure is one thing that leaves something to be > desired. > > The only two times it has been down to normal in recent > ______________ I was having problems with mine. Did all of the above to no avail. I also take flaxseed oil daily. Took cayenne pepper, garlic etc.....nothing. I too eat better than most. Strange huh? Well then I started taking coral calcium and it went down to normal. I was taking it for menopause problems and it seened to have helped that too. Now Wayne, I'm sure this isn't your problem but it just might help. Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2001 Report Share Posted August 14, 2001 Morning , I looked at the link and read the recipe for the kidney cleanse. The best choice would appear to be to buy the kit. You speak as though you have used this, either on yourself or others. I have some comments below, and would appreciate any addition comments from you and others. At 12:16 PM 08/13/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Caffeine is the major cause of HBP. Get off coffee, >tea, and carbonated beverages, and check for cadmium >in the tap water. Cadmium comes from galvanized >pipes. I have done everything you suggest here except to check for cadmium in the water. I don't have any galvanized pipes. All pipes are copper and PVC. Possible these pipes present problems as well. >Blood pressure is controlled by the adrenals, and a >kidney cleanse would benefit them and the kidneys. >The cleanse makes one feel really good and you feel >how the kidneys and heart work together while you're >on it! ><http://www..net/info/kidney.htm>http://www..net/info/kidney.htm This is an awesome recipe for sure. Considering the problems I have with much simpler recipes, I would hate to tackle this one. I drink a ton of water and eat a better than average selection or raw foods and nuts. Still..... my blood pressure is one thing that leaves something to be desired. The only two times it has been down to normal in recent years, .......... one was the nosebleed. My nose bleed started at 2 am. It continued until 8am. Even though I was at the emergency room at the hospital, no one could make it stop bleeding. I sat up in the bed with it bleeding for 5 or 6 hours. Since I build a drop counter for computer interface from scratch, I know how many drops was in an ounce. I know this varies a little with viscosity and orifice size, but still, it gave me something to do. Counting the drops and converting them to ounces told me I lost a lot of blood. About 8 am, I began to feel dizzy and told them I was about to become unconscious. This was a bit spooky. Finally some genius doctor came and made the nosebleed stop. Yes, my blood pressure reached a very low point, seems it was about 85 over 50. What amazed me, was that my blood pressure stayed in a normal range for several weeks after that. This made me think I may need to give blood from time to time, but I have not done so. The other time was a few years ago when I found some very good and large watermelons. I ate one per day for 4 days. This reduced the blood pressure to normal ranges. Even though I do workouts with weighs, treadmill with oxygen, and walk on the earth a few times per week, my blood pressure refuses to go down. All my blood analysis looks decent. Homocysteine is 7.8 . However my c-reactive protein is out of the suggested range. My report shows..... low risk < .07 mg/dL moderate risk .07 to .17 mg/dL high risk > .17 mg/dL My reading was .18 It is interesting that the doctor stated that his test was so new, he did not put much emphasis on it. I felt he had not done his homework yet on this. I tried to research this a bit, and found that any infection would make this reading higher than normal. I have recently started a collection of blood analysis reports from friends who have had heart attacks and some who have not. These will range from age 34 to over 70. I don't really know what this will accomplish, but it is interesting to me. At the present, I have only two besides mine. Several others have promised these reports to me within the next few weeks. If anyone wants to look at these, the link is ....... www.fugitt.com/trailmix.htm . Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 Good evening all. I too have high blood pressure and am on Prinival 20mg once a day along with a diuretic. It helps me big time, keeps my pressure at a " high normal " or within the range as my doc says... It runs about 145/90 now, and had been up to 165/140 (don't understand how come I didn't just blow up!!) I also have MS, FS, arthritis, bursitis and a few other things I cant even pronounce! Thanks the Gods I have an awesome GP. Peace to you all Vampyra -------------------------------------- I have seen the truth and it makes absolutely no sense! -------------------------------------- Web: http://vampyra.com Web: http://spiritbytes.com Web: http://bytesbydesign.net Coming Soon: WolfenDreams.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2001 Report Share Posted October 3, 2001 Dear Mike, Try flax oil. Works great. Less filling. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH From: bbtristate@... Reply-To: oxyplus To: oxyplus Subject: High blood pressure Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:16:58 EDT Dear Group, Do you know of any nutrients or herbs that are very good at lowering moderately high blood pressure? I heard that some chinese herbs can be very effective but I can't locate them. Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2001 Report Share Posted October 3, 2001 DEar Saul How does the flax oil work? wong In a message dated 10/03/2001 12:30:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, spressman@... writes: > Dear Mike, > > Try flax oil. Works great. Less filling. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2001 Report Share Posted October 3, 2001 DEar Saul How does the flax oil work? wong In a message dated 10/03/2001 12:30:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, spressman@... writes: > Dear Mike, > > Try flax oil. Works great. Less filling. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2001 Report Share Posted October 3, 2001 DEar Saul How does the flax oil work? wong In a message dated 10/03/2001 12:30:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, spressman@... writes: > Dear Mike, > > Try flax oil. Works great. Less filling. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 How much flaxseed does a 200 lb adult have to take per today and how long does it usually take to lower the HBP with flax? Thanks, Mike In a message dated 10/04/2001 9:45:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jlambert@... writes: > Wong, > > I'm assuming you are asking how flax oil works to lower blood pressure? > It supplies the omega 3 EFA the kidney needs to suppress the production > of angiotensin. > > jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 How much flaxseed does a 200 lb adult have to take per today and how long does it usually take to lower the HBP with flax? Thanks, Mike In a message dated 10/04/2001 9:45:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jlambert@... writes: > Wong, > > I'm assuming you are asking how flax oil works to lower blood pressure? > It supplies the omega 3 EFA the kidney needs to suppress the production > of angiotensin. > > jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 How much flaxseed does a 200 lb adult have to take per today and how long does it usually take to lower the HBP with flax? Thanks, Mike In a message dated 10/04/2001 9:45:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jlambert@... writes: > Wong, > > I'm assuming you are asking how flax oil works to lower blood pressure? > It supplies the omega 3 EFA the kidney needs to suppress the production > of angiotensin. > > jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Wong, I'm assuming you are asking how flax oil works to lower blood pressure? It supplies the omega 3 EFA the kidney needs to suppress the production of angiotensin. jim Wong111@... wrote: > > DEar Saul > > How does the flax oil work? > > wong > -- Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people seem bright until you hear them speak. --Lou Rubinacci jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Wong, I'm assuming you are asking how flax oil works to lower blood pressure? It supplies the omega 3 EFA the kidney needs to suppress the production of angiotensin. jim Wong111@... wrote: > > DEar Saul > > How does the flax oil work? > > wong > -- Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people seem bright until you hear them speak. --Lou Rubinacci jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Wong, I'm assuming you are asking how flax oil works to lower blood pressure? It supplies the omega 3 EFA the kidney needs to suppress the production of angiotensin. jim Wong111@... wrote: > > DEar Saul > > How does the flax oil work? > > wong > -- Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people seem bright until you hear them speak. --Lou Rubinacci jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Dear Wong, There are many mechanisms in the body that control blood pressure, because it is such a vital function. One of these mechanisms is the production of angiotensin in the blood plasma. Angiotensin causes the blood vessels to narrow, raising the blood pressure. It is like constricting the output of a hose with your finger, to make the water shoot farther. The production of angiotensin is regulated by the amount of renin produced by the kidneys. More renin = more angiotensin = higher blood pressure. Angiotensin also causes the kidneys to retain more salt and water, which further elevates blood pressure. This feedback system can spiral upward into a heart attack. The solution is to take flax oil, or fish oils, both suppliers of linolenic acid, an Omega 3 EFA (essential fatty acid). With a good supply of the Omega 3 EFA, the kidneys reduce their output of renin. Less renin = less angiotensin = lower blood pressure. Simple, cheap, effective. Now you know why it is not widely promoted! Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH -------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wong111@... Reply-To: oxyplus To: oxyplus Subject: Re: High blood pressure Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 04:47:40 EDT DEar Saul How does the flax oil work? wong In a message dated 10/03/2001 12:30:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, spressman@... writes: > Dear Mike, > > Try flax oil. Works great. Less filling. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Dear Wong, There are many mechanisms in the body that control blood pressure, because it is such a vital function. One of these mechanisms is the production of angiotensin in the blood plasma. Angiotensin causes the blood vessels to narrow, raising the blood pressure. It is like constricting the output of a hose with your finger, to make the water shoot farther. The production of angiotensin is regulated by the amount of renin produced by the kidneys. More renin = more angiotensin = higher blood pressure. Angiotensin also causes the kidneys to retain more salt and water, which further elevates blood pressure. This feedback system can spiral upward into a heart attack. The solution is to take flax oil, or fish oils, both suppliers of linolenic acid, an Omega 3 EFA (essential fatty acid). With a good supply of the Omega 3 EFA, the kidneys reduce their output of renin. Less renin = less angiotensin = lower blood pressure. Simple, cheap, effective. Now you know why it is not widely promoted! Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH -------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wong111@... Reply-To: oxyplus To: oxyplus Subject: Re: High blood pressure Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 04:47:40 EDT DEar Saul How does the flax oil work? wong In a message dated 10/03/2001 12:30:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, spressman@... writes: > Dear Mike, > > Try flax oil. Works great. Less filling. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Dear calvin, It is better to take flax based on the body's response. Take one per meal, three times per day. (Total three) Then try 2 per meal three times per day.(Total six) Then try 3 per meal, three times per day. (Total nine) Monitor your bowel movements, and note at which level they most normally occur (not too loose and not too hard). That is the level for you to stay at. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH From: cajunkid01@... Reply-To: oxyplus To: oxyplus Subject: Re: High blood pressure Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 14:37:38 -0700 hi should one take flax based on body weight. Calvin On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:47:20 EDT bbtristate@... writes: How much flaxseed does a 200 lb adult have to take per today and how long does it usually take to lower the HBP with flax? Thanks, Mike In a message dated 10/04/2001 9:45:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jlambert@... writes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Dear calvin, It is better to take flax based on the body's response. Take one per meal, three times per day. (Total three) Then try 2 per meal three times per day.(Total six) Then try 3 per meal, three times per day. (Total nine) Monitor your bowel movements, and note at which level they most normally occur (not too loose and not too hard). That is the level for you to stay at. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH From: cajunkid01@... Reply-To: oxyplus To: oxyplus Subject: Re: High blood pressure Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 14:37:38 -0700 hi should one take flax based on body weight. Calvin On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:47:20 EDT bbtristate@... writes: How much flaxseed does a 200 lb adult have to take per today and how long does it usually take to lower the HBP with flax? Thanks, Mike In a message dated 10/04/2001 9:45:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jlambert@... writes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 hi should one take flax based on body weight. Calvin On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:47:20 EDT bbtristate@... writes: How much flaxseed does a 200 lb adult have to take per today and how long does it usually take to lower the HBP with flax? Thanks, Mike In a message dated 10/04/2001 9:45:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jlambert@... writes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Hi Saul, Start with one what per meal? Teaspoon, capsule ? I developed high blood pressure about a year ago and it settled to a normal level. Now, it hovers around the borderline high level. My doctor would love to put me on medication, but, it ain't gonna happen. Flax would do me just fine. -- In oxyplus@y..., " Saul Pressman " <spressman@h...> wrote: > Dear calvin, > > It is better to take flax based on the body's response. > Take one per meal, three times per day. (Total three) > Then try 2 per meal three times per day.(Total six) > Then try 3 per meal, three times per day. (Total nine) > Monitor your bowel movements, and note at which level > they most normally occur (not too loose and not too hard). > That is the level for you to stay at. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > > > > From: cajunkid01@j... > Reply-To: oxyplus@y... > To: oxyplus@y... > Subject: Re: High blood pressure > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 14:37:38 -0700 > > hi > should one take flax based on body weight. > Calvin > > > > On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:47:20 EDT bbtristate@a... writes: > How much flaxseed does a 200 lb adult have to take per today and how long > > does it usually take to lower the HBP with flax? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > In a message dated 10/04/2001 9:45:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > jlambert@p... writes: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Hi Saul, Start with one what per meal? Teaspoon, capsule ? I developed high blood pressure about a year ago and it settled to a normal level. Now, it hovers around the borderline high level. My doctor would love to put me on medication, but, it ain't gonna happen. Flax would do me just fine. -- In oxyplus@y..., " Saul Pressman " <spressman@h...> wrote: > Dear calvin, > > It is better to take flax based on the body's response. > Take one per meal, three times per day. (Total three) > Then try 2 per meal three times per day.(Total six) > Then try 3 per meal, three times per day. (Total nine) > Monitor your bowel movements, and note at which level > they most normally occur (not too loose and not too hard). > That is the level for you to stay at. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > > > > From: cajunkid01@j... > Reply-To: oxyplus@y... > To: oxyplus@y... > Subject: Re: High blood pressure > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 14:37:38 -0700 > > hi > should one take flax based on body weight. > Calvin > > > > On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:47:20 EDT bbtristate@a... writes: > How much flaxseed does a 200 lb adult have to take per today and how long > > does it usually take to lower the HBP with flax? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > In a message dated 10/04/2001 9:45:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > jlambert@p... writes: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2001 Report Share Posted October 4, 2001 Dear Sandy, Capsule. Generally people like those better than the taste of the oil. The capsule prevents the oil from going rancid, too. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH ----------------------------------------------------------------- From: moldovansandy@... Reply-To: oxyplus To: oxyplus Subject: Re: High blood pressure Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 22:05:38 -0000 Hi Saul, Start with one what per meal? Teaspoon, capsule ? I developed high blood pressure about a year ago and it settled to a normal level. Now, it hovers around the borderline high level. My doctor would love to put me on medication, but, it ain't gonna happen. Flax would do me just fine. -- In oxyplus@y..., " Saul Pressman " <spressman@h...> wrote: > Dear calvin, > > It is better to take flax based on the body's response. > Take one per meal, three times per day. (Total three) > Then try 2 per meal three times per day.(Total six) > Then try 3 per meal, three times per day. (Total nine) > Monitor your bowel movements, and note at which level > they most normally occur (not too loose and not too hard). > That is the level for you to stay at. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > > > > From: cajunkid01@j... > Reply-To: oxyplus@y... > To: oxyplus@y... > Subject: Re: High blood pressure > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 14:37:38 -0700 > > hi > should one take flax based on body weight. > Calvin > > > > On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:47:20 EDT bbtristate@a... writes: > How much flaxseed does a 200 lb adult have to take per today and how long > > does it usually take to lower the HBP with flax? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > In a message dated 10/04/2001 9:45:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > jlambert@p... writes: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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