Guest guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 You don't really say what results you are looking for after exercising. If you are looking to lose weight, then I wouldn't bother. You are suffering with slow metabolism and you need to concentrate in finding the dose of specific supplements your body requires and the thyroid hormone replacement you need, and only then you will naturally be able to take more exercise and lose weight. Low levels of thyroid can cause all manner of problems, but a TSH test result alone is insufficient for anybody to be able to tell whether the thyroxine you are taking is converting into the active T3 that every cell in your body and brain needs to make them function. Check out the response I have just sent to the group entitled " Are these tests normal " . There are two messages - you need to read the second one. I have already sent information about DHEA and asked you if you can get the 24 hour salivary adrenal profile done. It is absolutely no use going by what was diagnosed years ago, we need to know the actual state they are in today and then supplement according to those results. Taking any steroid when it is not called for can be dangerous, so this test result is very important. Debs. Luv - Sheila I'm also wondering whether the doctors should have addressed the fact that I have such low SHBG's and Testosterone undetectable, Androstenedione and DHEAS undetectable. I can trace these back to 1996 and I've been looking on line all evening for more info - certainly the very low DHEA is suggested as a possible cause for the hair loss. Also linked to adrenal issues. I'm wondering whether I should supplement? I'm doing the Saliva test first to re-check but any advise would be so very much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 HI ALL Has anyone noticed that their weight goes up when exercising, and could this be a good indicator for having Hypothyroidism. At the moment having stopped the T4 but still on same dose of T3 my weight has dropped a little and so has my BP, so what is it in T4 that causes weight gain and high BP,and is it possible that T4 causes fluid retention, hence the weight gain and high BP. Kathleen > > You don't really say what results you are looking for after exercising. If > you are looking to lose weight, then I wouldn't bother. You are suffering > with slow metabolism and you need to concentrate in finding the dose of > specific supplements your body requires and the thyroid hormone replacement > you need, and only then you will naturally be able to take more exercise and > lose weight. > Luv - Sheila > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Thanks Sheila I have exercised seriously for years and it has not helped regulate my weight and even years of working with heavy weights has not helped my muscles to either develope or maintain. I believe this is a thyroid thing. It's just that now - with my TSH so high - it's causing me real and significant pain. Thank you so much for the advice re the test, I have ordered this and it arrived this morning, a super service from the lab, I will do it tomorrow and post the results when I get them. I have started with a half grain of Nature-Throid and intend to up this to one grain if all is well after a week. I don't actually want to take any medication, I just want to be well so I certainly won't be taking any form of supplement without those test results and a lot more research. Although an Italian research project has shown some promising results with DHEA as an alternative to HRT - interesting. Thank you Sheila Debs > > Taking any steroid when it > is not called for can be dangerous, so this test result is very important. > Debs. > > Luv - Sheila > > > > Very low DHEA is suggested as > a possible cause for the hair loss. Also linked to adrenal issues. > > I'm wondering whether I should supplement? I'm doing the Saliva test first > to re-check but any advise would be so very much appreciated. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Debs, I fought the battle for years, with thyroid meds and a personal trainer three hours a week. I just got more and more exhausted and fatter and fatter. Eventually I decided that £120 a week to feel really bad wasn't worth it. Instead, I spent the money on testing and meds. It's taken a couple of years but I'm now ok with the adrenal glands, which were exhausted I treated them with HC and Nutri Adrnal extra (NAX). Instead of the 50 T4 and 20 T3 that the doc prescribes, I'm on 3 grains of Natural thyroid and 20 T3. I have most of my life back and am finally losing weight by eating no carbs and no gluten. All that now remains is a leaky heart valve which I've had to fight for diagnosis....... The hospital dismissed me as ok, my doctor sided with the hospital. I asked to see my test results and Hey Presto! re instated at the hospital and they admitted that the consultant who dismissed me had not actually seen my test results.... It's not only thyroid where they give a rubbish service. Be kind to yourself..... if exercising isn't helping you lose weight and makes you feel exhausted, then take some time out and get the other problems fixed. The weight will come off when you find the right combination of meds. x > > Thanks Sheila > I have exercised seriously for years and it has not helped regulate my weight and even years of working with heavy weights has not helped my muscles to either develope or maintain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Thank you so much for that, it's so good to know I'm not the only one - sometimes it all seems too hard, I'm a real fighter but every now and then I lose all my fight. I managed to loose a stone in weight last year by going no carbs and exercising for an hour and a half a day (one meal a day only) as my thyroid levels dropped so the ability to lose weight did too - even on lots of exercise and one rotten meal a day - nothing. Worse still the pain! I was doing okay on 3 grains before the Endo persuaded me that my thyroid couldn't possibly have anything to do with my symptoms - after a lifetime of thyroid problems I should have known better but my desire to come off all meds (largely because I convinced myself my hair would come back!) I went along with it, how dumb was I? There is hope, I am slowly starting back on the meds and thanks to this website am going to get my adrenals checked properly (I suspect they and the low DHEA MAY be at the bottom of my inability to get completely well) It's so hard when we live in a society that rams it down our throats that if you eat right and exercise lots you will lose wieght - yeah right. So good to hear you are doing well now, keep it up and don't let some silly Endo persuade you to do something daft like mine did! Debs x > > > > Thanks Sheila > > I have exercised seriously for years and it has not helped regulate my weight and even years of working with heavy weights has not helped my muscles to either develope or maintain. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 HI all, I used to suffer with this and it was due to the adrenals being exhausted and so I was blowing up with the cortisol being produced to keep the adrenals going as the body was recognising that exercise was a stressor. Adrenals are now being addressed and this doesn’t happen any more. Best wishes Mandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Hi Debs /all I've just started back exercising after a year of feeling rubbish, back on the bike on the indoor trainer, I use a product called Amino Load after I've finished exercising. It contains L-Phenylalanine, L-Leucine, L-Lysine, L-Valine, L-Threonine, L-Isoleucine, L--Methionine, L-Arginine, L-Histidine, L-Tyrosine, L-Cystenine, L-Tryptophane, Maltodextrin & Dextrose. Used to use it when I rode a lot and so far, riding every other day, things seem ok. You can get it from www.allsports-int.co.uk, might be worth a try. Geraint. > I'm wondering about the effect of exercise when thyroid levels are low, I've been doing various forms of exercise for years and not got the results I should have. > > I'm now finding that it's actually making me feel a lot worse than usual, I've done my usual couple of miles on the treadmill today and am not only exhausted but in lots of pain in my legs and lower back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 That's really good news, hope it continues to work for you. I've had to stop this week as I'm in so much pain but feel so guilty when I don't do any exercise, can't win either way! will look more into this - thank you. Deb > > Hi Debs /all > > I've just started back exercising after a year of feeling rubbish, back on the bike on the indoor trainer, I use a product called Amino Load after I've finished exercising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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