Re: Advice on my Adrenal Stress profile please

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

I had very similar results to these, especially the DHEA.

Before I start this protocol was O.K'd by Dr P.

You need to supplement with DHEA as this is converted to

cortisol, and to put it simply your DHEA levels cannot keep up

with the bodies request to make cortisol.(DHEA is converted to cortisol)

Some people need to start at fairly low levels,but some like me

not, you will have to 'suck it and see' so to speak. You

know you have insufficient levels so you relly need to build up to

25mgs plus, it could take a couple of months before you feel the

effect as it can take time to feel the difference.

You have to remember that your body did not get like this overnight

so it will not be an overnight fix.

With regard to the sleep problem perhaps you need Zinc.

On the STTM site members have had good results from high level doses of Zinc or

if that doesn't work then Seriphos (Phosphorylated Serine)

which is an Adaptogen and adrenal support. Have a look before you dip your toe

in.

Kind regards,

Tina.

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> Hello

> Can anyone help interpret the results of my Genova Diagnostics 24hr salivary

cortisol test please, see results below

>

> Cortisol

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

Sorry forgot to ask you, with regard to what you say about the Levo do you take

your basal temp? If so you should do this will tell

you if you are medicated sufficiently, and if it is working for you. It will

also indicate when the DHEA supplements are starting to work, as if you have

adrenal insuffiency your temps will be all over the place.

Info about how to take your temp and the levels are in the files section if you

need the info.

Kind regards,

Tina.

>

> Hello

> Can anyone help interpret the results of my Genova Diagnostics 24hr salivary

cortisol test please, see results below

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tina

Thanks for your replies. I do take my basal temp every morning, my Temp has

stabilised much more than it once was, and is now around 36.4 usually, should I

take it more often than once a day? What is the STTM site? I already take zinc

14mg twice a day, does it need to be a higher dose than this?

I am a little unsure of taking DHEA as have heard mixed reports on this. Can I

take DHEA whilst on Levothyroxine?

What is Seriphos (Phosphorylated Serine)and where would I buy it from?

Kind Regards

Sue

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> Before I start this protocol was O.K'd by Dr P.

> You need to supplement with DHEA as this is converted to

> cortisol, and to put it simply your DHEA levels cannot keep up

> with the bodies request to make cortisol.(DHEA is converted to cortisol)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your zinc supplement is a bit high, the recommended dose is 15mgs

daily. Did you have a very low zinc level when tested? Read Dr Rind's

information about temperature http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-temperature-graph

/

STTM stands for Stop the Thyroid Madness - another excellent web

site with much information, but this is American, and their doctors tend to

diagnose and treat differently to our doctors here in the UK.

Yes, you can take DHEA with levothyroxine.

Type 'Phosphorylated Serine suppliers UK' into your Search

engine to find where you can buy it from.

Luv - Sheila

I do take my basal temp every morning, my Temp has stabilised much more than

it once was, and is now around 36.4 usually, should I take it more often than

once a day? What is the STTM site? I already take zinc 14mg twice a day, does

it need to be a higher dose than this?

I am a little unsure of taking DHEA as have heard mixed reports on this. Can I

take DHEA whilst on Levothyroxine?

What is Seriphos (Phosphorylated Serine)and where would I buy it from?

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

You need to take your temp several times a day, prferably every for hours. You

do this for several consecutive days. Take the average

every day. If there is a .2 to .3 degree difference then it could indicate

adrenal insufficiency. Not only that you may see the temps

going all over the place. When my adrenals are playing up my temps will bounce

around from 36.4 to 35.2 in the space of 2 hrs even though

my environment etc was constant during that time.

I note what Shiela says about the Zinc,yes you seem to be taking a fair amount

of Zinc already,and if you have had a test that is useful. A tip I heard from

another member on this site was to taste a zinc tablet, if you cannot taste it

then you do not need

supplementation. I would like to know if anybody else knows if there is science

behind this. It is also said that

you can tell how low in iodine you are by wiping some on your skin,

the faster it disappears the more you are in need of supplementation.

Kind regards,

Tina

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> Hi Tina

> Thanks for your replies. I do take my basal temp every morning, my Temp has

stabilised much more than it once was, and is now around 36.4 usually, should I

take it more often than once a day? What is the STTM site? I already take zinc

14mg twice a day, does it need to be a>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tina

OK will look at Dr Rinds web site and follow his suggestions on temperature

taking.

No I haven't had a zinc test, GP said she couldn't test for that! but I will try

your suggestion of tasting it & reduce my zinc supplementing just in case I'm

overdosing on it.

Did you find that supplementing with DHEA helped you? Is there anything to be

aware of with taking DHEA?

I also have a big problem with my legs jerking at night time when I go to bed

and am relaxed, my legs jump right out of the bed and my whole body jerks, it's

as if I have one of those electric exercise machines attached to my hips, it

seems to stop when I get off to sleep and as soon as I wake again starts, does

anyone have any ideas on this?

I have been taking serotone 5HTP for the past couple of nights which has helped

slightly with my sleep, but there is still plenty of room for improvement!

Many thanks

Sue

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> Hi Sue,

>

> You need to take your temp several times a day, prferably every for hours. You

do this for several consecutive days. Take the average

> every day. If there is a .2 to .3 degree difference then it could indicate

adrenal insufficiency. Not only that you may see the temps

> going all over the place.

[Ed]

[Guest guest]

Hi Tina,

A tip I heard from another member on this site was to taste a zinI note what Shiela says about the Zinc,yes you seem to be taking a fair amount of Zinc already,and if you have had a test that is usefulc tablet, if you cannot taste it then you do not needsupplementation. I would like to know if anybody else knows if there is science behind this

Professor Bryce- was the author of this test.

The correct interpretation is that you need zinc if you can't taste the zinc tablet (only a very small part of the tablet is needed for this test; below a quarter)

It might be worth reducing the amount pf zinc taken during the day (to 1 tab ~14mg Zn), and try and get a source with some copper (ratio 15mg Zn : 1mg Cu) so that you don't deplete your copper level, by accident.

Bob (chemically trained, not medically qualified)

>> Hi Sue,> > You need to take your temp several times a day, prferably every for hours. You do this for several consecutive days. Take the average> every day. If there is a .2 to .3 degree difference then it could indicate adrenal insufficiency. Not only that you may see the temps> going all over the place. When my adrenals are playing up my temps will bounce around from 36.4 to 35.2 in the space of 2 hrs even though> my environment etc was constant during that time.

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

Thanks for that, yes I agree about the copper , because I automatically

get Zinc with copper I forgot to mention it.

Kind regards,

Tina

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>

> Hi Tina,

>

> A tip I heard from another member on this site was to taste a zinI note

> what Shiela says about the Zinc,yes you seem to be taking a fair amount

> of Zinc already,and if you have had a test that is usefulc tablet, if

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

Firstly please note Bobs reply inc comments on copper.

With regard to DHEA, my ratio was out and so I supplement

with DHEA ( I also chose to supplement with Pregnenolone

which is a prescursor to DHEA and other hormones, I discussed

this with Dr P and he said if it works for me then carry on)

At the moment I am alternating between 25mg sublingual and transdermal

DHEA/Pregnenolone . I did not have to gradually

increase doseage, but from what I hear from others some people

have to gradually increase there dose. Also if you get the side effect of facial

hair from DHEA then you may need 7 Keto DHEA

(more expensive)but Dr P says that DHEA is good for most people.

As stated previously DHEA can take 2 months before you feel a difference.

With regard to your legs, this could be due to a Magnesium deficiency.

Magnesium oil spray on your legs before you go to bed would be ideal.

A lot of people use oral supplements.

I personally use it for arthritic pain.

A company call Neem genie do a transdermal Magnesium with ADC which has an

additive(tree derived) which accelerates and accentuates the transfer of

Magnesium into the body. This company do a lot of transdermal products thathave

been developed with the help of Dr Myhill.

You can also get Magnesium oil spray from quite a few other companies

now, but they will not have the ADC in them.

Kind regards,

Tina.

Kind regards,

Tina

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> Hi Tina

>

> OK will look at Dr Rinds web site and follow his suggestions on temperature

taking.

>

> No I haven't had a zinc test, GP said she couldn't test for that! but I will

try your suggestion of tasting it & reduce my zinc supplementing just in case

I'm overdosing on it.

>

> Did you find that supplementing with DHEA helped you? Is there anything to be

aware of with taking DHEA?

>

>

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Hi Tina

Thanks for your advice. I have some transdermal magnesium, so will try that, but

I do already take magnesium before bedtime. I have ordered some 7 Keto & DHEA

as Dr Rind suggests using the 7 Keto first then going onto DHEA, I'll give it a

shot, as will try anything to get some better sleep and feel well again.

The Zinc supplement I have is gel coated so I can't try tasting it, next time I

buy will try to get uncoated & see whether I can taste. I do take copper too but

only every other day as was unsure if I needed it.

Kind Regards

Sue

> At the moment I am alternating between 25mg sublingual and transdermal

DHEA/Pregnenolone . I did not have to gradually

> increase doseage, but from what I hear from others some people

> have to gradually increase there dose. Also if you get the side effect of

facial hair from DHEA then you may need 7 Keto DHEA

> (more expensive)but Dr P says that DHEA is good for most people.

> As stated previously DHEA can take 2 months before you feel a difference.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I wonder what would happen if we asked our local pharmacist if

they would give us a zinc tablet to taste to see whether we need to supplement

with zinc. It might be worth asking. After all, they are supposed to be there

to help answer any questions we might have about supplements or drugs.

Luv - Sheila

Thanks for your advice. I have some transdermal magnesium, so will try that,

but I do already take magnesium before bedtime. I have ordered some 7 Keto

& DHEA as Dr Rind suggests using the 7 Keto first then going onto DHEA, I'll

give it a shot, as will try anything to get some better sleep and feel well

again.

The Zinc supplement I have is gel coated so I can't try tasting it, next time I

buy will try to get uncoated & see whether I can taste. I do take copper

too but only every other day as was unsure if I needed it.

Kind Regards

Sue

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