Thyroid Cancer

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--- wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Carol Ann,

Hi Gail, nice to hear from you.

> Ah, there are always two sides to the coin.

Yes, there usually is...

Its as they say...history for me. No pun intended..

there was clinically, no family history.

Diagnosis was stage 4, prognosis dismal at best. 2

week old Infant...it was a Huge wake up call

and an extraordinary lesson about life.

Generally, people who find themselves in a position

where serious health related decisions must be made,

more often than not defer to standard medical advice

and treatment protocols. After all, others, more

trained and therefore considered more qualified, must

know best, right? Factors of stress, shock, panic,

confusion, helplessness, and often depression become

meshed with medical considerations, obfuscating

balanced choices.

My point was that unnecessary surgery happens every

day and people are taken advantage of regularly.

Things are done that are not necessarily in the

patients best interests.

Medicine is business.

Folks like you, me and others who patronize these

types of health related lists, which deal with

alternative choices, are by and large, when

considering numbers, in the minority. What we choose

to do is claim greater degree of responsibility for

changing life styles, diet, emotional factors, social

reconditioning, which are all important components of

good health. Most importantly we choose to learn and

not leave fate in the hands of the great white coats.

And I do agree, it is as u say, never a simple matter.

My comment was to address the staid status quo of

allopathic medicine. Doctors/Surgeons usually opt to

do what they learned to do, best, which is operate. It

is a way of life thinking. Dosen't necessarily mean

that what they were trained to do to is the best thing

that can be done. And truly, their gifts and learning

can be blessings. As a result of a boating accident

my son would have lost the use of his fingers had not

their talents been called upon.

Medicine is big business. Yup, there is some change, a

small majority of the newer generation of MD's are

being more open minded about alternatives, we laymen

and women are not all idiots. Yet, CODEX is a fact,

RX's are going out the doors quicker than candy,

tests, tests, tests. Hosptitals are expanding. I've

noted a large national pharmacy is reconfiguring

their " drug " stores.

The main isle is wide and leads to the pharmacy, which

can be seen from the front of the store. Reminded me

of the yellow brick road. No looking around or asking

for directions.

Remember when tonsillectomies were in vogue.

Sore throats......out came the useless tonsils. Today

it is uterus and breasts. Common sense might soon be

out the window as well due to Rx overdosing.

As to my comment about self-full filling prophecy...I

can give you so many examples of things I have seen

but this list is not the place.

Medicine is very big business. Buyers need to

beware...and aware.

Warm regards Gail,

Carol Ann

> In keeping with the asked question; the woman

> already has thyroid

> cancer. I think that is quite a bit different than

> a woman wanting

> her breast removed to prevent getting breast cancer.

> Also, I'm not

> sure about your comment about cancer being a self

> fulling prophecy.

> Genetics do play a role in things, but how we choose

> to live also

> plays an important role. When my mom had bypass

> surgery, my sister

> asked the doctor, " what we the chances of us kids

> inheriting it? " He

> said, " You've already inherited it, but that doesn't

> mean you will

> have a heart attack. Don't smoke, exercies, & eat

> right and you will

> be ok. " I really believe diet is a major factor

> that is so often

> overlooked. But it's getting better. Whatever

> the reason, once

> they have it, I would do all that I could to win the

> battle. If it

> meant removing my tyroid, so be it. If I could cure

> it with ozone,

> so be it. If it takes both, so be it. I would look

> into my diet and

> personal life, but not get into a blame game. If

> there are things

> that need correcting, then correct it. Sometimes I

> don't think we

> will ever know the reason why. Personally, I just

> don't think it is

> as simplistic as we would like, and will often take

> a multiple of

> things to win the battle. I would not want to rule

> any one thing

> out. It does seem to me there are more and more

> physicians that are

> combinding both nutrititon, various alternative

> treatments, as well

> as allopathic. That's a good thing to me.

>

> Again, I'm just so happy for you. I'm tickled to

> death.

>

> Gail

>

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Guy,

> > > > >

> > > > > Cancer of the thyroid is not

> hyperthyroidism.

> > > > > Tell her to get ozone therapy and save her

> parts

> > > > > intact.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best of Health!

> > > > > Dr. Saul Pressman

> > > > >

>

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Best regards,

Carol

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>

> Its as they say...history for me. No pun intended..

> there was clinically, no family history.

> Diagnosis was stage 4, prognosis dismal at best. 2

> week old Infant...it was a Huge wake up call

> and an extraordinary lesson about life.

>

Hi again, Carol Ann.

Would you mind sharing what type of cancer you had and how you

recovered from it?

Thanks,

Gail

>

>

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>

> Its as they say...history for me. No pun intended..

> there was clinically, no family history.

> Diagnosis was stage 4, prognosis dismal at best. 2

> week old Infant...it was a Huge wake up call

> and an extraordinary lesson about life.

>

Hi again, Carol Ann.

Would you mind sharing what type of cancer you had and how you

recovered from it?

Thanks,

Gail

>

>

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Gail,

It is my preference to keep it simple. Cancer is

Cancer. A cell which has become abnormal, a renegade,

anaerobic. It becomes dysfunctional and does not know

when to stop replicating itself. That is all it is, a

cell which has lost its ability to remain healthy, in

turn it affects nearby cells and causes dis-ease. For

whatever reason.

I listened to what doctors had to say and went with

the chemo but knew they did not have all the

answers....because they didn't. Survival, recurrance

stats were horrible, hopeful at best.

I was enlisted in a study at the NIH and at the behest

of my family, followed their protocol. After one

year of being what they considered a " problematic " ,

patient, i.e. evading X-Ray appts, especially those

Radionuclide bone scans, stirring the pot by having

discussions with other patients, asking about various

treatment protocls and meds, I was literally thrown

out of the study. So, I stopped the protocol,

enlisted some doctors and created my own.

My observations over the years ~ Traditional medicine

is not designed to empower a person, in fact, if

anything it creates and encourages dependency. It

treats physical illness as a single component. Other

factors, spiritual, emotional, social, economic

(nutritional intake and supplementations) have been

considered ancillary, disregarded. Emphasis is placed

primarily upon medical intervention, notably drugs

and surgery.

There has been some progress.

I listened, did not discount and followed closely or

was guided by my intuition. Everyone, no exclusions,

has a very intelligent inner physician that

knows....if they care to listen. I read. Lots.

Assimilate information. Asked hundreds of questions.

Bernie Segals book, Love, Medicine and Miracles, which

I consider a work of art, somewhat innovative upon

publishing, suggested, contrary to standing medical

theory, that thoughts are very powerful things, mind

is not disconnected from the body, they function as a

whole.

I used Chinese Medicine as an adjunct. Massage.

Meditation. Revamped life style. Macrobiotic diet.

Most importantly, I asked myself why I got sick.

--- wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote:

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> >

> > Its as they say...history for me. No pun

> intended..

> > there was clinically, no family history.

> > Diagnosis was stage 4, prognosis dismal at best. 2

> > week old Infant...it was a Huge wake up call

> > and an extraordinary lesson about life.

> >

> Hi again, Carol Ann.

>

> Would you mind sharing what type of cancer you had

> and how you

> recovered from it?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Gail

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> I used Chinese Medicine as an adjunct. Massage.

> Meditation. Revamped life style. Macrobiotic diet.

> Most importantly, I asked myself why I got sick.

I would also mention that I began taking what would be

considered huge, daily doses of Vitamin C (25grams and

still I had not reached bowel tolerance) and

occassionally, thru IV. During that time, I had the

opportunity to talk to Dr. Ewan Cameron, who

co-authored a book with Linus ing. How I got his

telephone number I cannot remember, but I called his

home in England and believe it or not he answered the

phone.

It was recommeneded by him that the Average daily

dosage for a human being to maintain optimal health,

was 5 grams.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/Alternative_Health/17_02%20HS%20How%20Much%20Vi\

tamin%20C%20Is%20.htm

Best regards,

> --- wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > >

> > > Its as they say...history for me. No pun

> > intended..

> > > there was clinically, no family history.

> > > Diagnosis was stage 4, prognosis dismal at best.

> 2

> > > week old Infant...it was a Huge wake up call

> > > and an extraordinary lesson about life.

> > >

> > Hi again, Carol Ann.

> >

> > Would you mind sharing what type of cancer you had

> > and how you

> > recovered from it?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Gail

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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What kind of cancer did you have? Thanks for sharing. Gail

-- In oxyplus , Carol Ann <saffireskyes@y...> wrote:

>

> > I used Chinese Medicine as an adjunct. Massage.

> > Meditation. Revamped life style. Macrobiotic diet.

> > Most importantly, I asked myself why I got sick.

>

>

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Thanks, Ruth. That's a great story. I think everybody should

include parasite/liver/kidney cleanses in their life. Whether you

had cancer or not, you did have a tumor that responded to it. I also

noticed both you and Carol Ann didn't rule out allopathic medicine

altogether...rather combined both alternative and allopathic. I " m

glad you had success. Gail

>

> Gail,

> This isn't about ozone but I can tell you my experience with a

> thyroid tumor two years ago. I didn't even know what ozone was

then

> and I'm just learning now.

>

> I went to the doctor in October 2003 because I thought I had a

> bladder infection. (Down the line I found out it was a uterine

> fibroid). I also had a swollen gland in my neck for several

> months. The doctor was more concerned with that and referred me to

> an endocrinologist. Before I left he patted my knee and

> said, " Don't worry, we have very good success rates with thyroid

> cancer " . I had never even thought it could be cancer! On my way

> home I remembered that my father's brother had died of thyroid

> cancer and his sister had a thyroid tumor removed.

>

> My appointment with the endo was not until December, so I went on

> the internet looking for information. I read Dr. Hulda 's

book

> and ordered the parasite and kidney cleanses. I started the

parasite

> cleanse. My first appointment with the endocrinologist was

painful.

> The tumor was hard and difficult to biopsy. The results were

> inconclusive and I had to go for a second biopsy. By that time I

> had finished the parasite cleanse and started the kidney cleanse.

> The second endo, who was the head of the department wanted to do

> surgery. But, after examining me and doing the biopsy he was able

> to drain enough fluid to reduce the tumor from the size of an

orange

> to a golf ball. (I think the tumor had softened as a result of the

> cleanses). A few weeks later I did Dr. 's liver cleanse and

> expelled more than a hundred stones. That night the tumor

> disappeared and has not ever returned. I don't know if I had

cancer

> or not but I do know that the cleanses helped tremendously! Ruth

>

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Hi Ruth,

All I can say is....beautiful. It sounds as if in the

interim, you took responsibility for yourself, sought

alternative solutions, did research/homework, acted

and in the end......kept both your thyroid and uterus.

Best regards,

Carol Ann

--- Ruth <ruth-new@...> wrote:

> Gail,

> This isn't about ozone but I can tell you my

> experience with a

> thyroid tumor two years ago. I didn't even know

> what ozone was then

> and I'm just learning now.

>

> I went to the doctor in October 2003 because I

> thought I had a

> bladder infection. (Down the line I found out it

> was a uterine

> fibroid). I also had a swollen gland in my neck for

> several

> months. The doctor was more concerned with that and

> referred me to

> an endocrinologist. Before I left he patted my knee

> and

> said, " Don't worry, we have very good success rates

> with thyroid

> cancer " . I had never even thought it could be

> cancer! On my way

> home I remembered that my father's brother had died

> of thyroid

> cancer and his sister had a thyroid tumor removed.

>

> My appointment with the endo was not until December,

> so I went on

> the internet looking for information. I read Dr.

> Hulda 's book

> and ordered the parasite and kidney cleanses. I

> started the parasite

> cleanse. My first appointment with the

> endocrinologist was painful.

> The tumor was hard and difficult to biopsy. The

> results were

> inconclusive and I had to go for a second biopsy.

> By that time I

> had finished the parasite cleanse and started the

> kidney cleanse.

> The second endo, who was the head of the department

> wanted to do

> surgery. But, after examining me and doing the

> biopsy he was able

> to drain enough fluid to reduce the tumor from the

> size of an orange

> to a golf ball. (I think the tumor had softened as a

> result of the

> cleanses). A few weeks later I did Dr. 's liver

> cleanse and

> expelled more than a hundred stones. That night the

> tumor

> disappeared and has not ever returned. I don't know

> if I had cancer

> or not but I do know that the cleanses helped

> tremendously! Ruth

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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jes_dean_jo <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote:

I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer 30 years ago. I had a

thyroidectomy, and radio iodine treatments over the years. I had a

doctor that left a tumor for 20 years telling me it was scar tissue,

although he wanted me to have treatments periodically. Two years ago I

went to another doctor that said it needed to come out. I had it

surgically removed and another treatment. Now two years later they say

there is another tumor that has not changed. Why didnt they get it 2

years ago? I had a fine needle biopsy today and they say it has cancer

cells. I go to my doctor in a week and I know what he is going to say.

Surgery and treatment! I have been looking online for alternative

methods such as the Clinic in Nevada. There has to be a way to treat

the reason for the problem instead of all this cutting and radiation.

Any suggestions?

Thanks-

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I need some advice,

My 31 year old daughter has been told that her enlarged thyroid gland is

nothing to worry about. I believe she has 3 nodules that she has had for a few

years now.

Her doctor stated they 'don't need to take a biopsy unless they begin to

grow..'

Is that standard procedure for an enlarged thyroid glan?

Debbie

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Thank you

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If the diagnosis is based on a biopsy you must first get a copy of

the pathology report. Different kinds of thyroid cancer require very

different types of treatments. There is no need to learn information

that is not applicable.

At 05:23 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:

>31 year old daughter just diagnosed....So strange...Been helping mother in

>law with myeloma...

>

>Can anyone direct me so I can educate myself?

>

>deb

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Hello all

Just posting this email that a friend sent me, I presume it is true? & thought

I'd share it with you all as it's interseting reading.

Subj: Thyroid cancer

I didn't know this...I will ask next time. >>> On Wednesday, Dr. Oz had a show

on the fastest growing cancer in women,

>>> thyroid cancer. It was a very interesting program and he mentioned that

>>> the increase could possibly be related to the use of dental x-rays and

>>> mammograms. He demonstrated that on the apron the dentist puts on you for

>>> your dental x-rays there is a little flap that can be lifted up and wrapped

>>> around your neck. Many dentists don't bother to use it. Also, there is

>>> something called a " thyroid guard " for use during mammograms.

>>> By coincidence, I had my yearly mammogram yesterday. I felt a little

>>> silly, but I asked about the guard and sure enough, the technician had one

>>> in a drawer. I asked why it wasn't routinely used. Answer: " I don't know.

>>> You have to ask for it. " Well, if I hadn't seen the show, how would I have

>>> known to ask? We need to pass this on to our daughters, nieces,

mothers and all our

>>> female friends and husbands tell your wives !! I just did, now you send

>>> it on to your list.

>>>

>>> Someone was nice enough to forward this to me. I hope you pass this on

>>> to your friends and family.

From Sue