Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 although recommended after seeing dr p i found they didn't suit me...too much adrenaline perhaps or too much of some b vitamins. if your arenals are struggling, are you daily taking good amounts of vitamin c (in divided doses), some quality saturated fat and (preferably) unrefined sea salt? beause it is an adoptagen, siberian gineseng is also helpul and if you don't have high blood pressure (fairly unusual with low adrenals)then liquorice tincture can also be helpful. trish > > Actually, thinking about it, I think NAE must be ok as they are listed on the discount arrangement with the company who sell them, and DR. P has recommended them to me over the telephone. Any thoughts please? [Ed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Hi Trish Hope no one minds me butting in - can I ask please, what symptoms did you have that led you to think NAXs didn't suit you? Though I think they help me to an extent, I do wonder if they've made my tachycardia worse, or at least not helped it and I seem to be reacting to low blood sugar more and at higher levels. Thanks Susie > > > although recommended after seeing dr p i found they didn't suit me...too much adrenaline perhaps or too much of some b vitamins. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 hi susie it felt like i had a knot in my stomach all the time, horrible anxiety and a need to wee much much more than usual. (a naturopathic doctor told me that was probably to do with too many b vitamins). i had an horrendous personal life at the time (and still do unfortunately!) but the anxiety stopped when i stopped taking the nax and so too did the need to go to the loo such a lot. the max i ever took were two a day but that was for a very short time. have you tried chromium picolinate for your blood sugar? i've read it is very effective to keep blood sugar stable and enhances insulin sensitiviy. (the only downside i recall is that is can lower copper) best wishes trish > > Hi Trish > > Hope no one minds me butting in - can I ask please, what symptoms did you have that led you to think NAXs didn't suit you? Though I think they help me to an extent, I do wonder if they've made my tachycardia worse, or at least not helped it and I seem to be reacting to low blood sugar more and at higher levels. > > Thanks > > Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 It might not be " too many " B vitamins, but simply taking any B vitamins. I tend to find they cause bladder irritation, even the amount in my multivitamin tablet. But I find it wears off after a few hours. If you can't tolerate more than one Nutri Adrenal Extra you can always take lots of Nutri Adrenal instead. Two Nutri Adrenal tablets are roughly equivalent to one Nutri Adrenal Extra, but without the extra vitamins. Miriam > it felt like i had a knot in my stomach all the time, horrible anxiety and a need to wee much much more than usual. (a naturopathic doctor told me that was probably to do with too many b vitamins). > > the max i ever took were two a day but that was for a very short time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 thanks miriam ...i have been taking a higher nature true food b complex for the last decade without problems but i noticed the bladder irritation pretty much immediately when i started nax ...sorry, i should have said that i also tried nutri adrenal but experienced the same stomach knot/anxiety so for me, i would say the adrenaline in the tablets does not suit. i may have over sensitised myself to adrenaline due to some bad habits i had in the 1980's! trish > > It might not be " too many " B vitamins, but simply taking any B vitamins. I tend to find they cause bladder irritation, even the amount in my multivitamin tablet. But I find it wears off after a few hours. > > If you can't tolerate more than one Nutri Adrenal Extra you can always take lots of Nutri Adrenal instead. Two Nutri Adrenal tablets are roughly equivalent to one Nutri Adrenal Extra, but without the extra vitamins. > > Miriam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I have run out of suggestions, then, sorry. :-) Nutri Adrenal and Nutri Adrenal Extra are only an adrenal support and if they contained any significant amounts of any hormones they would have to be available by prescription only. So I don't believe the reaction you are experiencing can be down to adrenaline. What is the smallest amount of Nutri Adrenal you have tried? My brother had to start with half a tablet, and even that had quite a radical effect at first. Miriam > thanks miriam ...i have been taking a higher nature true food b complex for the last decade without problems but i noticed the bladder irritation pretty much immediately when i started nax ...sorry, i should have said that i also tried nutri adrenal but experienced the same stomach knot/anxiety so for me, i would say the adrenaline in the tablets does not suit. i may have over sensitised myself to adrenaline due to some bad habits i had in the 1980's! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I have the same symptoms as Trish (except needing the toilet) on any whole adrenal glandular (cortex only are fine). I don't think it's that uncommon a reaction - if i remember rightly, Rosss (author of the mood cure) doesn't recoommend whole adrenal extracts because of the adrenaline component. I do believe they have adrenaline in them. How much, I don't know. They actually gave me flashback memories. I am not the only person to experience this: I much much prefer the cortex only extracts such as those available form mandimart or iherb. thyroid treatment/message/39721 I did feel a difference after a day or two - but, this didn't really agree with me either. No allergies, but I felt too stimulated on it, like it made me feel too stressed. I was getting a lot of 'stressful memories' on it. Hard to explain but basically they were kind of like flashbacks, just random memories of random bad things, triggered by random objects, words etc. I've had this on other glandulars, and when I was on antidepressants (a couple other people i spoke to on the boards have said the same thing). So I think they certainly had something in them that did 'something', just didn't agree with me. thyroid treatment/message/39782 >Chis I cant believe what you said in your email.I was on the NAX and built up to 3 a day but felt they kept me awake.I stopped taking them for the last 5 or 6 weeks.I cant believe you mentioned flash backs because I had them too but not for one minute did I put that down to the NAX.When you think about it, it probably does heighten your senses.I had a really bad time for a few years really really bad with my only child's health he is 27 and my world.He is OK now but I am convinced I have adrenal fatigue because of this.Anyway around the time I was taking NAX I was having flashbacks about what he had been through . thyroid treatment/message/39795 Oh So Sorry I thought you were .Yes they did stop when I stopped NAX.When I say flashbacks it was more like involuntary thoughts.Stuff I want to forget if you like.And yes a small mention or reminder of something and it wold flash up instantly .I do truly believe 100% that it is an adrenalin thing.I also believe if bad things have happened that they can come back when you feel good.Its like you are scared of it happening again.Just my opinion.xxxxx Chris > > > Nutri Adrenal and Nutri Adrenal Extra are only an adrenal support and if they contained any significant amounts of any hormones they would have to be available by prescription only. So I don't believe the reaction you are experiencing can be down to adrenaline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Here is a list of ingredients of Nutri Adrenal Extra - you will see loads of B vitamins: Ingredients Each tablet typically provides: Vitamin C (as Ascorbic Acid) Vitamin B1 (Thiamin HCl) Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide) Vitamin B5 (d-calcium Pantothenate) Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine HCl) Magnesium (Citrate) Zinc (Ascorbate) Chromium Picotinate Bioflavonoids Choline Bitartrate Adrenal tissue concentrate Pituitary tissue concentrate All tissue concentrates are of bovine source from New Zealand. 150mg 20 mg 20 mg 20 mg 60 mg 20 mg 75 mg 3mg 40ug 40mg 20mg 200mg 15mg thanks miriam ...i have been taking a higher nature true food b complex for the last decade without problems but i noticed the bladder irritation pretty much immediately when i started nax ...sorry, i should have said that i also tried nutri adrenal but experienced the same stomach knot/anxiety so for me, i would say the adrenaline in the tablets does not suit. i may have over sensitised myself to adrenaline due to some bad habits i had in the 1980's! trish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 >Nutri Adrenal and Nutri Adrenal Extra are only an adrenal support and if they contained any significant amounts of any hormones they would have to be available by prescription only. So I don't believe the reaction you are experiencing can be down to adrenaline. i expect you will agree that each of us is unique in our bio-chemisitry...what may be insignificant to one person may be significant to another person. for my own case i suspect i have low endorphins...as far as i understand it, endorphins help mitigate the negative effect of adrenaline so you can see that if the endorphin resevoir is low then adrenaline will be more of a bother. the knot/anxiety disappeared very quickly when i stopped taking the nax. >What is the smallest amount of Nutri Adrenal you have tried? My brother had to start with half a tablet, and even that had quite a radical effect at first. one tablet at breakfast. i currently support my adrenals with vit c, b complex, additional b5, additional active form b6, occasional b12, good diet, organic red wine and early nights trish > > I have run out of suggestions, then, sorry. :-) > > Nutri Adrenal and Nutri Adrenal Extra are only an adrenal support and if they contained any significant amounts of any hormones they would have to be available by prescription only. So I don't believe the reaction you are experiencing can be down to adrenaline. > > What is the smallest amount of Nutri Adrenal you have tried? My brother had to start with half a tablet, and even that had quite a radical effect at first. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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