Guest guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 No.. No !!!! no wonder you feel rough... don't just shove all that stuff at your poor body in one big rush..... imagine, it's been starved for ages of all kinds of stuff and then suddenly, over the course of a couple of days it gets absolutely bombarded and overdosed.... you need to introduce things slowly, leaving a good few days between each one..... and stopping pills suddenly is a bad idea why not do it by slowing down, say taking half for a few nights, then a quarter then a quarter every other night,, Taking 3 vitamin C tablets together not a good idea, you can only absorb so much at a time and the rest gets thrown out.... you need to separate them, say 4 hours apart. The serentity cream instructions are on the website (http://www.progesterone.co.uk/use.htm) if there were none enclosed.... you need a tiny tiny amount, dip your little finger in the pot to half way up the nail, and apply twice a day for 3 weeks out of 4 generally. You know that it has taken you ages to feel ill, and it will take some time to get right again. But slowly does it. If you add a load a stuff and take away tablets, and get any adverse reactions, how will you know which tablet or cream has caused the reaction? You can do it, but not in a big rush, it simply doesn't work that way.... Go and get yourself a tissue and a nice hot drink. A few months down the line when you feel much better you'll be giving this sort of advice out to others!! . x > > i started on nutri adrenal extra tablets about a week ago. i take 1 in the morning, thou i took 3 by mistake this morning instead of taking 3 1000mg vit c tablets. about 3 days ago i started using serenity cream, it doesn't say how much u shd use thou. i started using vit D and calcium tabs 400mg X 2 today. i am also on 250mg erfa thyroid , 50mcg synthetic t4 stuff, 200mg sertraline, and i usually take 5mg diazepam and 7.5mg zopiclone (sleeping tablet) b4 bed thou this is my 3rd nite without them. my point is I have been crying for no reason for the past 1/2 hr without reason. I think my youngest son heard me cos he just got up 2 use the toilet! my point is would any of the above cause me 2 cry 4 no reason. i feel so low. i really hate feelin like this. sorry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 thanx amanda, i dont wont to go bak on the diazepam and zopiclone thou, and if i dont take all my meds in the morning i will 4get lata. i will get thru it, just feelin sorry 4 myself and it has been 4 weeks and 5 days since i cut myself which is a mjor record 4 me > > No.. No !!!! no wonder you feel rough... don't just shove all that stuff at your poor body in one big rush..... imagine, it's been starved for ages of all kinds of stuff and then suddenly, over the course of a couple of days it gets absolutely bombarded and overdosed.... > Moderated to remove old messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Hi, Anyone can understand you not wanting to take the diazepam and the zopiclone but if you've been taking zopiclone regularly the body gets used to working with it.... It's not exactly addictive, but your body will be used to it being there and kind of works round it..... If you've been taking diazepam for more than a couple of weeks, then you need to wean off it slowly, not stop suddenly as this can make you feel pretty awful. Very very well done on the 4 weeks 5 days, it must be a pretty dark place sometimes, but you seem to have plenty of determination to sort it out..... you just need to work in tiny tiny little steps, each one getting you a bit better. So long as each step is forwards, not backwards you will get there. Taking half a tablet is a step forwards, not taking any could be a step backwards for now....... but in a couple of weeks not taking any could be a forward step.... get it? Taking vit c, and NAX are steps forward, but taking 3 NAX by mistake is a step back..... whoops! To get yourself to space the meds, set alarms on your mobile. It drives you nuts for a few days, but you soon get the hang of it. Thinking of you.... x > > thanx amanda, i dont wont to go bak on the diazepam and zopiclone thou, and if i dont take all my meds in the morning i will 4get lata. > i will get thru it, just feelin sorry 4 myself and it has been 4 weeks and 5 days since i cut myself which is a mjor record 4 me > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 thank you , good advice re the mobile have been on the diazepam and zopiclone for about 5 years, i understand what your saying but it's been 3 days now so i will stick at it, i think last night was the lowest and hopefully behind me now. i think i am at start of menopause too so that wouldn't help. i was wondering if the nax and progesterone cream would affect the amount of erfa i need, thanks sian x > > Hi, > > Anyone can understand you not wanting to take the diazepam and the zopiclone moderated to remove old messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Hi there Sorry you feel so bad. It sounds like you have a lot of things going on here. Are you under the care of any doctors? or are you self treating? From my own experience, and researching, i think that low or high cortisol can be linked to self harm ideation. There's a theory that self harm such as cutting can be the body's way of getting cortisol up, or lowering it maybe. I have no definitive research for that, but i feel bad if i don't have enough cortisol. ( i don't feel good with too much, either). I am on hydrocortisone though. you mention not cutting for 5 days, could the Nutri adrenal be the reason do you think? I hope you can seek and find help with this problem, or alternative ways of coping when things get really bad (easier said than done, i know, delay, distract, anything). maybe the adrenal - cortisol/hydrocortisone - issue is something to look into further. has your doctor put you on 250mg and 50mcg t4, or is this what you find you need to feel better? Some people find they need less thyroid, or at least need to stop it temporarily , when taking adrenal support, because the thyroid may suddenly get used in the body, giving unpleasant symptoms. I would only change one thing at a time, and be careful coming off zopliclone and diazepam. I was on zopiclone and found it helpful short term but i gather it can be addictive and i wonder if it affects the brain chemistry. Melatonin can help with sleep, but do check that it's safe to check with all your other meds. I would be careful coming off diazepam too, if you are addicted to this i gather you should come off it very slowly. A former member of this site, Mo, was in a very bad way when coming off diazepam and she took it very slowly and stil suffered, so maybe that is part of your problem if you are withdrawing? Is it possilbe for you to seek support with your thyroid and adrenal issues, perhaps from Dr Peatfield? There is lots of information in the files too, on how to treat adrenals and thyroid: thyroid treatment/files/ I would change one thing at a time and go slowly and record everything, that way you can see what's working and what's not. i hope you feel better soon chris > > i started on nutri adrenal extra tablets about a week ago. i take 1 in the morning, thou i took 3 by mistake this morning instead of taking 3 1000mg vit c tablets. about 3 days ago i started using serenity cream, it doesn't say how much u shd use thou. i started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 hi chris thank you for replying it has been 4 weeks 5 days (6 today). i last saw dr skinner a few years ago, he put me on armour about 8 years ago. i changed to erfa about a year ago cos armour got too expensive. my doctor has been cutting my levothyroxine down cos my tsh less than 0.01 i can't remember who put me on that originally!!! my memory is appalling! interesting theory on the cutting, i haven't heard of that, but i am determined for my boys sake not to go bak to it, i have been doing it for 5 years, that why they put me on sertraline, diazepam and zopiclone. i haven't seen the psychiatrist for yeras thou, the social anxiety made it too stressful so i stopped going. that and the fact they changed from a woman to a man and i am worse around men i had abusive husband for 19 years, all came to a head 6 years ago and i ended up in mental home so divorced him, still in my life thou cos of the boys, they 13 and 15. my 13 yr old said when he is 16 he goin to stop goin to him every other weekend like he has to now cos he doesn't want to see him. i think that is so sad. anyway i am being boring now so thanks again chris sian x > > Hi there > > Sorry you feel so bad. It sounds like you have a lot of things going on here. Are you under the care of any doctors? or are you self treating? > > From my own experience, and researching, i think that low or high cortisol can be linked to self harm ideation. There's a theory that self harm such as cutting can be the body's way of getting cortisol up, or lowering it maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Sian, when using Progesterone Cream, you need a blob about the size of a peak and rub it into the soft part of your body. Keep changing this, i.e. boobs, bum, tum etc. once a day. Luv - Sheila i started on nutri adrenal extra tablets about a week ago. i take 1 in the morning, thou i took 3 by mistake this morning instead of taking 3 1000mg vit c tablets. about 3 days ago i started using serenity cream, it doesn't say how much u shd use thou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Sian I'm sorry to hear of your problems. > interesting theory on the cutting, i haven't heard of that, > but i am determined for my boys sake not to go bak to it, i have ok is it worht getting the cortisol thing investigated? if you have time could you google self harm and cortisol. i hope the nutri adrenal helps you but you may need hydrocortisone, too. it may be wroth researching. Also, ruminating (going over the same bad things that happened in the past, constantly) is linked to cortisol too - may be the bodies way of raising cortisol (though i'm sure there are people who say it's a sign of too high cortisol) > i had abusive husband for 19 years, all came to a head 6 years ago and i ended up in mental home so divorced him, still in my life thou cos of the boys, I'm sorry to hear all of this. Have you tried EMDR therapy for the trauma you suffered? sometimes it can help for people with trauma, there are other techniques,too. best wishes chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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