Guest guest Posted April 2, 2002 Report Share Posted April 2, 2002 Hello , welcome back. Two questions. Firstly, how much is the Thorne formula SF722 and how long do you need to take it to determine if it is helping? Secondly, without a lab test, how do you know that you might have candida, what are the symptoms? I have constant bowel problems that get worse when I eat refined sugar. TIA Mike > So I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the best > thing I've ever found for getting rid of Candida is > 10-undecenoic acid, which is made from castor beans. The > only source I know of is Thorne Products, Formula SF722. > Thorne Products are not sold direct to consumers, except > through two sources I know of: NEEDS, and www.DrZ.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2002 Report Share Posted April 6, 2002 yakcamp22 wrote: > Hello , welcome back. Two questions. Firstly, how much is > the Thorne formula SF722 and how long do you need to take it to > determine if it is helping? It runs about $19-20 a bottle, and you can usually tell about halfway through the bottle whether or not it's working. > Secondly, without a lab test, how do > you know that you might have candida, what are the symptoms? I have > constant bowel problems that get worse when I eat refined sugar. TIA > > Mike > Read a book like " The Yeast Connection " , or read the stuff about candida on www.DrZ.org. There is a long laundry list of symptoms, where the more you have the more likely you are to have systemic candidiasis. Dr. Zeischegg has also put together a " candida support " box of supplements that includes the SF722, lactobacillus sporogenes, Medipro, and homeopathic suppositories. The good thing is, none of these treatments is likely to harm you if you don't have candida, so it's a question of whether it's worth the time and money to you to do a trial treatment and see if anything changes. Remember, though, that things usually get worse before they get better when you're treating candida, due to the body having to deal with the toxins from the die-off of the yeastie beasties. -- el (andrea@...) - Nevada City, CA, USA " ...wake now! Discover that you are the song that the morning brings... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Hi , I have just started SF722. Today I got my first dose and I have disturbing head ache now? Did this happen to you? Can we take this as normal reaction or does it indicate that it is not good for me? Thanks..Nil > Hi! I just rejoined this group after being away for a while > (couldn't cope with the copious quantities of emails :@). > > So I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the best > thing I've ever found for getting rid of Candida is > 10-undecenoic acid, which is made from castor beans. The > only source I know of is Thorne Products, Formula SF722. > Thorne Products are not sold direct to consumers, except > through two sources I know of: NEEDS, and www.DrZ.org (my > chiropractor and NAET practitioner, who is now shipping > stuff all over the world). Of course, you still need to do > a low-carb, yeast-free diet, and take other things like > probiotics with it. But I found the SF722 more effective > than Rx Nystatin. > > -- > > el (andrea@o...) - Nevada City, CA, USA > " ...wake now! Discover that you are the song that the > morning brings... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Hi All, I am looking for something natural that will help get rid of " systemic candida " . I know that there are things that people take that will just get rid of candida in the digestive tract. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 yildiz2113 wrote: > Hi , > > I have just started SF722. Today I got my first dose and I have > disturbing head ache now? Did this happen to you? Can we take this as > normal reaction or does it indicate that it is not good for me? > Thanks..Nil > Yes, headaches are a normal response to an anti-candida program which is working. As the cells of the " yeastie beasties " burst open, they flood the bloodstream with all of their toxins, which your liver and kidneys have to filter out and either excrete or detoxify them. Try drinking LOTS of water, at least 4 glasses more than you usually do. Do some deep breathing exercises, soak in a tub of hot water and Epsom salts, eat lots of vegies and fruits, get a lymphatic drainage massage, or any other detox assist you know of. If the headaches are still intolerable after a week, try cutting back on the dosage and see if that helps. If after two weeks you haven't seen some lessening of the headaches, you'll probably want to give up on SF722 and try something milder. Good luck! -- el (andrea@...) Nevada City, CA, USA " ...wake now! Discover that you are the song that the morning brings... " " One is taught by experience to put a premium on those few people who can appreciate you for what you are. " - Gail Godwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 Thanks for the info!My head aches got less now. I have started increasing the dosage. Nil Re: Re: candida | | | yildiz2113 wrote: | | > Hi , | > | > I have just started SF722. Today I got my first dose and I have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 Nil, I just started the SF722 today also. What is your dosage schedule? I haven't noticed anything yet, but just took one with each meal. Also started Candex. The nutrition counselor at NEEDS told me to take one in the am 1 hour before b'fast for one week, then increase by one each week until up to 2 in am and 2 in pm. I sure hopes this helps. Donna in NC Re: Re: candida > > > | > | > | yildiz2113 wrote: > | > | > Hi , > | > > | > I have just started SF722. Today I got my first dose and I have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Hi Donna, I will actually take advise of Dr.Poesnecker on how to increase the dosage but there is pretty good info on SF722 at http://www.modernherbalist.com/products/sf-722.html He might follow similar protocol.The speed of my dosage increase will probably be in direct relation with my ability to detox.I think you may also use the protocol given at above link..I have started with 2 per day with or after meal and now I am on 3 per day. I will contact Dr. P soon. Glad that you have mentioned candex.Did NEEDS say that you can use Candex and SF722 at the same time? I also have product called `Candida complex' which was previously advised to me by NEEDS but I am not sure if it can be used together with SF722. May be I should check that. I also started using Molybdenum at the same time at about 100 mcg per meal. It is also very helpful.The most noticeable difference I observe is lessening of my brain fog. I am happy with it. Take care and good luck. Nil Re: Re: candida | > | > | > | | > | | > | yildiz2113 wrote: | > | | > | > Hi , | > | > | > | > I have just started SF722. Today I got my first dose and I have | | | | | This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Hi Nil, I increased the SF722 to 2 after b'fast, and have been hit with a migraine and internal tremors and a rapid heart rate. Guess the herx has begun. Glad I am moving more slowly on increasing the dosage. As far as taking the Candex and SF722 together, I think it is because the strain of candida that showed up in my CDSA is a mutant strain which is very resistant to treatment. The counselor at NEEDS said that this strain did respond to just the SF722 alone, but recently people have been reporting that used alone it is not that effective for this strain. Still great for candida albicans though. so they are now suggesting using Candex and SF722 together, but increasing each one very slowly as the die off is terrible. If the die off gets too difficult, he said to stop the SF722 for a few days (while continuing the candex), until I'm feeling better, then reintroduce the 722. I'm not sure what Candida Complex is. I take a lot of moly, but all at the same time. Perhaps I should take some with each meal. I need to take a lot of it to keep my copper levels down to semi-reasonable levels, although I can't seem to get them down to normal levels yet. My head hurts too much to notice any changes in my brain fog, but do hope this headache lets up soon. Glad yours is better though. Good luck to you too Donna in NC Ynt: Re: candida > Hi Donna, > > I will actually take advise of Dr.Poesnecker on how to increase the dosage but there is pretty good info on SF722 at http://www.modernherbalist.com/products/sf-722.html He might follow similar protocol.The speed of my dosage increase will probably be in direct relation with my ability to detox.I think you may also use the protocol given at above link..I have started with 2 per day with or after meal and now I am on 3 per day. I will contact Dr. P soon. Glad that you have mentioned candex.Did NEEDS say that you can use Candex and SF722 at the same time? I also have product called `Candida complex' which was previously advised to me by NEEDS but I am not sure if it can be used together with SF722. May be I should check that. I also started using Molybdenum at the same time at about 100 mcg per meal. It is also very helpful.The most noticeable difference I observe is lessening of my brain fog. I am happy with it. Take care and good luck. > Nil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 Hi Donna! Thanks for the info.I also had terrible headache when I first tried SF722 but the next day it was gone.If yours does not go away within a day time,may be you might want to reduce the dosage to the previous one.Flax seed oil is helping me with my brain fog. Molybdenum,too.I think these are good for Candida too..Just wanted to inform you. Do you consume sweet fruits,rice and patatos? I could not stop eating these.I have only stopped sugar,wheat products,fermented foods ands foods containing yeast. Thanks. Nil Ynt: Re: candida | | | > Hi Donna, | > | > I will actually take advise of Dr.Poesnecker on how to increase the dosage | but there is pretty good info on SF722 at | http://www.modernherbalist.com/products/sf-722.html He might follow similar | protocol.The speed of my dosage increase will probably be in direct relation | with my ability to detox.I think you may also use the protocol given at | above link..I have started with 2 per day with or after meal and now I am on | 3 per day. I will contact Dr. P soon. Glad that you have mentioned | candex.Did NEEDS say that you can use Candex and SF722 at the same time? I | also have product called `Candida complex' which was previously advised to | me by NEEDS but I am not sure if it can be used together with SF722. May be | I should check that. I also started using Molybdenum at the same time at | about 100 mcg per meal. It is also very helpful.The most noticeable | difference I observe is lessening of my brain fog. I am happy with it. Take | care and good luck. | > Nil | | | | This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2002 Report Share Posted October 28, 2002 > didn't someone on this list have concerns about this? no link- sorry. > > > > > Concerned About Candidiasis? > > Dr. Weil -thanks for the article...it is always good to read a different point of view...but, in my opinion this man is a buffoon!!! At least he does mention to stay away from sugars diary though.... > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 What's the name of this zapper..and where can I find it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Hi to all, I have something positive to share with you........ I've been using an electrical device that introduces a micro current into the bloodstream and electrocutes the little nasties. I have not done a viral load yet, but my health has improved beyond anything I had hoped for. this device is similar to the Beck, hulda clark zapper, but with a big difference. It kicks viral butt with a vengeance. I know this w/out a test, because for the first time in years I feel completely normal and my appearance is improving daily. I have suffered with hcv for thirty years, and I do mean suffer. Hope this helps http:// search for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 Dear all, just to mention as zappers are on the agenda at the moment, that I have been using the angel zapper for the past 4 months, and my viral load has gone from 1 million to 17,000, I also feel better for it. There are other zappers that claim to damage the virus cells also,which allows our own immune to destroy the virus. All theory I know, however it has worked for me. I do use colloidal slver with the zapper as the expansion of the cells caused by the colloidal silver, allows the zapper to be more effective. Kind regards, Mikhail -- On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:08:24 rriver1010 wrote: >What's the name of this zapper..and where can I find it? > _____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus & ref=lmtplus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 I have a friend, Donna, who used to suffer from chronic systemic candida. For years she treated it medically. Everything they tried worked, for a short time, but then the yeast would come back as bad as, or worse then ever. During those years, a mutual friend of hers, would try to get her on the Natural Hygiene (raw vegan) diet, but Donna balked at that because she was told by the doctors that fruit was not good for her condition. In desperation, when there was nothing else left to try, she turned to the raw diet, which " appeared " to make things worse, at first, but eventually solved her problem with candida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Thanks to everyone for feedback on Candida. Evidentally everyone is familiar with it!!! Barb __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 you can eat a few spoon fulls a day or put a few in a protien shake and blend it in. I think garden of life is the company that makes the best coconut oil. " ...things may be lovable that are not altogether handsome... " -- Eliot's Adam Bede __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 ...what did you use to get rid of your candida? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Mindy, Suggest you have her try a regular diet of Organic, biological active yogurt (Stoneyfied Farms no fat plain is what I eat), and real cranberry juice (no other juices, no sugar). And the most important thing is Zero sugar and sweeteners. This has worked for female friends of mine, but it has to be a regular long-term diet. Generally yeast grows worse in no sugar, acid situations. Regular vit C. morning and night help with acidity of urine too. That should at least help. To those who might wonder, one doesn't have to be a dr. to recommend foods..... Edgar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Hi Frances - I've never had it but I've seen people here post about it. It seems to occur from leftover food sitting in your E - causes the yeast build up and infection. I'm not aware of it being super dangerous or anything and all I remember (without looking any further into it) is that it is treatable with anti-fungal meds. I would certainly recommend following it closely with your GI hope that helps ~ in NC > > Someone got this, I have an endoscopy and biopsy and they said I have this fungus call candida, never heard this with people with A, > > Any information let me know > > Frances , WA > > Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Frances wrote: > ... I have an endoscopy and biopsy and they said I have this fungus call candida ... When food stays in the esophagus for long periods of time opportunistic microbes can grow in it. One of the more likely ones to grow there is Candida Albicans, which causes candida esophagitis. Though it isn't all that common in achalasia others in this support group have had it. You can probably find those messages by searching the site for " candida " or " yeast " or for more information see: Candida esophagitis in achalasia cardia: Case report and review of literature http://www.saudijgastro.com/article.asp?issn=1319-3767;year=2007;volume=13;issue\ =2;spage=88;epage=90;aulast=Kumar Many people that get candida esophagitis have weak immune systems. I don't think you need to have a weak system if you have achalasia. Achalasia is probably enough opportunity. Most sources of information on candida esophagitis will not discuss achalasia. The opportunities for candida that they discuss are going to be things like AIDS. Don't let that scare you but if you get more than your share of infections you may want to discuss your immune system with your doctor. For more on this see: Candida esophagitis http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001666/ Symptoms of Candida Esophagitis http://www.ehow.com/facts_4966391_symptoms-candida-esophagitis.html notan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Berberis Tincture and Milk Thistle tincture are both supposed to eliminate Candida safely and have the added benefit of clearing the liver which is often suspect in thyroid patients and of course those with gallstones Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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