Re: Armour/Erfa from Value Pharma

January 26, 2012

Series of questions here !!!!

Firstly - Have just purchased the above from Value and ticked the box 'no

prescription required' !! Is that correct?

Yes, that is the way we used to get our orders from

valuepharmaceuticals without a prescription, but I understood that from 10th

January, they are no longer giving thyroid tablets without the patient first

produces a doctors prescription.

Secondly - have a well woman appointment tomorrow with my

Dr. Last blood tests showed TSH 0.02 ( 0.4-5.0) and FT4 24.9 (12.0-23.0) So Dr

reduced my Thyroxine from 150 to 125!!! Suggestions from TPA members was that

possibly T4 was not being utilised. Kept on lower dose for a time until Hypo

constipation occurred - was not going back down that route ever again!!! So

went back to 150mcgs.

I would explain this to the Well Women's clinic. If the

thyroxine is not being converted to the active thyroid hormone T3 in the

thyroid hormone receptors, it cannot be properly utilised at the cellular level

and will lie in the blood with nowhere to go, and this is one reason why your free

T4 level is above the top of the reference range. You may need to be prescribed

T3 in combination with your T4. The T4 level should be lowered when introducing

T3.

I thought maybe I needed some T3 - so have been taking one

grain of Armour in the morning and 150mcg of Levo at night - and I feel good!!!

Three weeks now.

Oh - I should have read all the way through your message. OK,

but in that case, if this was me, I would lower my thyroxine by 50 mcgs, and

increase my Armour by another 30mgs (half a tablet) and see how you feel on

that. In another 3 weeks or so, I would lower my T4 by another 50mcgs and add

in the other 30mgs Armour. This is a trial and you need to titrate your dose

according to your symptoms and signs. TSH will become very suppressed for

anybody taking any form of T3, so be prepared for that if your doctor tries to

tell you that you are taking too much. Also, your free T4 will drop and your

free T3 will be quite high in the reference range, so remember not to take any

thyroid hormone, either T4 or Armour the morning that you have your blood

drawn, otherwise the results will be flawed.

At this stage, I am not sure whether it would be a good thing to

tell your GP or not, because you want to carry on with your new protocol and he

might do everything he can to stop you. I tend to play such things by ear, and

once you know that this is definitely working for you, and that you are not

going to go back on the 150 mcgs T4, then I would discuss what I had done with

my doctor.

Do I tell my Dr what I have done i.e. increasing the Thxroxine and adding

Armour? Or do I just keep quiet??????

Luv - Sheila

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January 26, 2012

Thank You Sheila x. Am not sure where you get your energy and patience from! I

will play it by ear and follow your suggestions re medicating. Not sure if I

will get the Armour I ordered from Value,they have taken my debit card details

and confirmed the transaction,so I assume they will let me know when I dont send

prescription thro.

Stay safe

Polly x

January 30, 2012

Ok - Value mailed back to say I needed a prescription. So now can anyone tell me

where I can get Armour without a prescription please. Really don't want to go

thro all the rigmarole of joining up, giving all my details again to sites I

don't know if I can trust or not....and I know many of you are successful in

getting it.Previous order many of you said it was very expensive - can't find

that thread!!!!

Sheila - went for my well woman check. Saw the practice nurse. Told her I was

self medicating. May as well be hung for a sheep etc! showed the letter I gave

to the Dr some months ago - did post it on here. She must have taken the letter

straight into the Dr as soon as I left.BP really high ( white coat syndrome I

think!!!), obese - well always struggling with weight!! surprise!

Anyway within 5 minutes of getting indoors my Dr phoned me. Said she would test

me for B12, Ferritin,Folate,Electrolytes,Liver Function,Bone/calcium,Fasting

lipids,C-Reactive Protein,Glucose,TFF2.and is also sending me for a bone scan.

Not sure if this is a result or not ???? As I only live round the corner she

acted very speedily - I was blown away???? Lord knows what TFFT2 is tho!!

Looking forward

Polly x

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> Series of questions here !!!!

> Firstly - Have just purchased the above from Value and ticked the box 'no

> prescription required' !! Is that correct?

January 30, 2012

Hi ine

if you go to the files you will find a document containg all the info about

internet pharmacies

thyroid treatment/files/INTERNET%20PHA\

RMACIES/

I don't think Armour is worth bothering with since the reformulation, but if you

wanted to try it, i believe international pharmacy stock it.

It may be worth ordering the Thai NDT - thiroyd and Thyroid-s i think they are

called. they are a lot cheaper than erfa

chris

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> Ok - Value mailed back to say I needed a prescription. So now can anyone tell

me where I can get Armour without a prescription please. Really don't want to go

thro all the rigmarole of joining up, giving all my details again to sites I

don't know if I can trust or not....and I know many of you are successful in

getting it.Previous order many of you said it was very expensive - can't find

that thread!!!!

>

January 30, 2012

A most definitely result - well done.

There is Armour Thyroid, Nature Throid, Westhroid, Thyroid-s,

'Thiroid' - all natural desiccated porcine thyroid extract, but with different

fillers that are all excellent. All these you can buy without a prescription

from those reputable Internet Pharmacies in our FILES SECTION.

As it is your money, you need to check what each of these

pharmacies are charging, especially check the number of tablets you are buying.

Most come in drums of 100, others in drums of 1000.

Luv -

Sheila