RE: Dr Says HYPER not HYPO - just on hearing 1 symptom?

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Find

another GP and FAST! This one will do no other than cause you grievous bodily

harm. Every patients who was hypothyroid was treated with natural thyroid

extract and nothing else for well over 50 years, and it had proved safe and

effective in all of that time. This was before synthetic T4 was manufactured.

T4 is a mainly inactive thyroid hormone that has to convert to the active

thyroid hormone T3. Without T3, we die.

Not

being able to sleep at night could well be your hormones are completely shot.

Your cortisol secretion may be running high when you go to bed, when it should

be running low, to help you to sleep - but you won't know that unless you do

the 24 hour saliva test. Cortisol secretion should be tested at four specific

times during the day.

It

might help if you started to take natural Melatonin 3mgs. You take this half an

hour before going to bed, you start to feel sleepy and in the morning you find

you have had an excellent nights sleep. You must, however, sleep in a very dark

room, no chinks of light showing. Insomnia has many causes and can occur in

both hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism as well.

It

matters not whether your doctor has heard of Armour or not. Tell her that there

are many, many patients getting their health back on natural thyroid extract,

because it contains T4, T3, T2, T1 plus calcitonin for the bones. If she has

not heard of this, then she should start to do some research, or better, still

ask her to join this forum *grin*. She would soon have her eyes opened.

Professor

Weetman (former President of the British Thyroid Association) gave evidence in

court that thyroid extract should NOT be taken in a morning because it makes

the results flawed. This is especially true of anybody taking synthetic T3 or

the T3 in natural thyroid extract because the T3 peaks in the blood between 2

to 3 hours after taking it, and would make a free T3 reading very high. Listen

to the professionals Judy. Doctors are dangerous who treat their patients when

they know nothing about the medication they are taking. 1 grain (60 mg) of

Armour thyroid contains 9 mcg of T3 and 38 mcg of T4 and T3 is approximately four times as potent

as T4? So, multiply the 9 mcg of T3 times 4 and then add that to the 38 mcg of

T4:

36

mcg (9 mcg of T3 times 4)

+ 38 mcg of T4

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74 mcg

so

1 grain (60 mg) of Armour equals approximately 74 mcg of T4 (Levothyroxine)

- but you are taking only half of that. Not sure how she worked out 100mcgs. Also I would find it

extremely worrying if she really believe you were suffering with

HYPERTHYROIDISM that she tells you to take your Armour on the morning you have

your blood test. Seriously, find a different doctor, or get referred to an

endocrinologist.

Hope

that helps.

Sheila

Saw GP today who will do blood test (TSH + T4)

- but NOT T3 unless T4 is abnormal. Well at least a start.

I started by telling her a major sympton is Chronic Insomnia - her response -

You Are HyPER NOT HyPO. Saying " You would sleep if HyPO and Not sleep if

HyPER " . Well as far as I can tell from reading Insomnia is a common

symptom of HyPO?

This DR had Never heard of ARMOUR T, had to look it up on the computer &

then was horrified that I was self medicating on 1/2 grain which is the equiv of

100mcg of Levo according to her.... Proceeded to tell me all the dire

consequences to my health if I am taking AMOUR T when HyPER. (I told her I had

been under care of therapists for some while - - she seethed)

SHE SUGGESTED I STILL TAKE ARMOUR ON THE MORNING OF THE BLOOD TEST - THIS SEEMS

ODD TO ME?

My initial inclination was I should not be taking ARMOUR on the test day as it

will show a false reading?

But as I am new to the GP route I thought I would ask opinion of anyone here

who has more experience than me.

Thanks

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[Guest guest]

How this person is a doctor i have no idea, its as if they are making it up off

the top of their head. Find another doctor ASAP or if you want to stick with

this doctor then do as much researching as possible and take the reasearch with

you in to the appointment.

Steve

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> Saw GP today who will do blood test (TSH + T4) - but NOT T3 unless T4 is

abnormal. Well at least a start.

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[Guest guest]

I started by telling her a major sympton is Chronic Insomnia - her response -You Are HyPER NOT HyPO. Saying " You would sleep if HyPO and Not sleep ifHyPER". Well as far as I can tell from reading Insomnia is a common symptom ofHyPO?

(((LOL))) please thank your doctor from me, will you? I needed a good laugh today and I just had one! I think this is one for our bloomers section, Sheila ....

This DR had Never heard of ARMOUR T, had to look it up on the computer & thenwas horrified that I was self medicating on 1/2 grain which is the equiv of100mcg of Levo according to her.... Proceeded to tell me all the direconsequences to my health if I am taking AMOUR T when HyPER. (I told her I hadbeen under care of therapists for some while - - she seethed)

This is just getting better and better..... SHE SUGGESTED I STILL TAKE ARMOUR ON THE MORNING OF THE BLOOD TEST - THIS SEEMS ODD TO ME?My initial inclination was I should not be taking ARMOUR on the test day as itwill show a false reading?

..... even better still !!!! LOLBut as I am new to the GP route I thought I would ask opinion of anyone here whohas more experience than me.

Well, Judy – being new to the GP route and all that, your novice gut instinct is a damn site better than the "knowledge" of your doctor. Trust your instincts and keep taking your Armour (but not on the morning before your blood draw!) . Let's wait for your results and take it from there, but one thing I can tell you even without knowing your blood results – if you really were hyper, I assure you, you'd know about it !!! Nobody in his or her right mind will overdose on thyroid hormone without noticing it !

With best wishes,

[Guest guest]

Dear Judy.........that's just such a typical typical story! I had chronic

insomnia for 6 years on T4, I would be so exhausted, had a very stressy job,

cold, tired all the hypo stuff.........but sleep, oh no, I felt like a lived on

adrenalin. It mad me feel, look and act mad.

I have been on Erfa for 2 years, this has made a massive difference, I sleep

like a baby, feel warm, nice clear head and a sense of humour that I thought had

died!

Do get another GP if you can who will at least get the blood tests you require.

Hang in there too, don't give up and stay on T4 if you feel unwell.

Lv Tammy

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> Saw GP today who will do blood test (TSH + T4) - but NOT T3 unless T4 is

abnormal. Well at least a start.

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> I started by telling her a major sympton is Chronic Insomnia - her response -

You Are HyPER NOT HyPO. Saying " You would sleep if HyPO and Not sleep if

HyPER " . Well as far as I can tell from reading Insomnia is a common symptom of

HyPO?

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for all responses so far - v heartening. Please I gave some a good

laugh!!!I will post blood tests on here when I get them back. Adrenal saliva

test being processed too & will post on here when back

Thanks again

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