Re: problems raising ferritin- HELP! please x

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> Hello all

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> I've had borderline anaemia all my life and it was really very bad just before

I was diagnosed with coeliac disease 7 years ago. I've no idea what my ferritin

was then.

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> I had my second child 3 years ago and was anaemic whilst pregnant. I didn't

find out the importance of ferritin levels until sometime after that, but it's

safe to assume they've been low for some time. I've been supplementing with all

the types of iron under the sun since being pregnant and subsequently breast

feeding, but can't seem to get my ferritin up by much.

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> It was measured on Monday of this week as 38. I'm still borderline anaemic,

though I don't know the numbeer for that. I'm taking 3x blue bonnet iron a day

(27mg each) as they're supposed to be well absorbed, but I'm wondering if I

should try something else.

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> Any suggestions?

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> My gastro has said i will always have absorbtion problems, as many with

coeliacs apparently do, despite me being very strictly gluten free. But because

my ferritin is 'normal' and my haemoglobin is only borderline, there's no way

the hospital would ever give me iron ivs. I've been told the only thing I can do

is come off iron so my ferritin drops out of range. I refuse to do that as I

believe it's tantamount to self-harming given how rough i feel already.

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> I've never had the full 'iron panel' done. Do I really need to given that I

know my ferritin is low? If I should get it, where do I get it done - happy to

go privately.

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> I must get this sorted as I can't tolerate any thyroid meds (I great really

bad tachycardia) and this may well be down to the low ferritin.

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> Any suggestions as to what I can do next? Try ferrous fumerate again? Do

anywhere do iron ivs privately?

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> Many thanks

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> Susie

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For background, I am broadly in the same situation as Susie, although not as

bad. I have tried, Floravital and Spatone, which kept my levels steady only,

ferrous sulphate, ferrous bisglycinate and ultimately ferrous fumarate, all of

which gave me unacceptable GI problems. There is no help available through our

local hospital, although my endo says I need iv iron and on that basis, at my

next appointment I shall be asking about a referral on, but that may depend on

my current levels.

In the meantime my homeopath had me on tissue salts, a fortnight of Calc Phos

followed by a fortnight of Ferr Phos and repeat. I haven't been tested yet, but

half way through that process my hair started growing back. Apparently it kick

starts the body into remembering that it is supposed to absorb iron.

Who knows? It cost me a tenner plus the consultation fee and I certainly don't

feel any worse.

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> > Any suggestions as to what I can do next? Try ferrous fumerate again? Do

anywhere do iron ivs privately?

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> > Many thanks

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> > Susie

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Hi Susie,

As you have problems with taking supplements you may want to tey a transdermal

form of Iron The following link takes you to the

page of the site for all of its transdermal products:

http://www.neemgenie.co.uk/transdermal-products/cat_14.html

This means that it is absorbed directly into the body,bypassing the usually

absorption problems in the gut etc.

Kind regards,

Tina.

- In thyroid treatment , " susiewensley " <susiewensley@...>

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Thanks Tina that looks very, very interesting. Have you tried any? I have used

magnesium oil which made my skin very itchy. I wonder if this would do the same.

Got to be worth a try though. Thanks!

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Thanks for the link, going to look into this. I'm trying to get my ferritin up

(currently at 18) before I start taking Levthyroxine, but I can barely tolerate

any supplemental iron, even Spatone. Ferrous fumarate was disastrous, and

Floradix, I can't even manage 1ml (a 20th of the daily dose) without a bad

stomach. One Spatone sachet a day is all I'm managing at the moment and it gives

me awful gas!

> As you have problems with taking supplements you may want to tey a transdermal

form of Iron The following link takes you to the

> page of the site for all of its transdermal products:

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I wonder if it was the magnesium or the carrier oil which caused that? They

don't say what the carrier oils are, slightly annoyingly.

I have used magnesium oil which made my skin very itchy. I wonder if this would

do the same. Got to be worth a try though. Thanks!

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Hi Helen

the one I've been using is Better You magnesium oil. It's called oil but is

actually just a very concentrated solution of magnesium salts in water. I think

that it's because my skin is so dry and sensitive coz of the hypot that the high

salt content bothers it. I'm hoping that something that's in an oil will

actually be kinder to my skin. I'll give the iron a go and if my skin copes with

that I'll try the magnesium too.

Susie x

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Hi Susie,

All of thier transdermals have an additive called ADC which is a

carrier derived from tree bark that accelerates the absorbtion into

the body. I have tried most of them and he sent me a trial of

Lugols iodine to try (but this is not listed for public use on his site at the

moment).

I have not had any problems with itching, but everbodys different.

Just to confirm to others that Magnesium oil does not have oil in it, it is a

very concentrated liquid form of Magnesium salts, its just

called Magnesium Oil ( a bit like mincemeat pies!). I think it could be because

when you rub it on it has an oil like texture on the skin.

Kind regards,

Tina

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> Thanks Tina that looks very, very interesting. Have you tried any? I have used

magnesium oil which made my skin very itchy. I wonder if this would do the same.

Got to be worth a try though. Thanks!

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Afternoon all; I found the magnesium spray stung to the point that it was

unusable, waste of money for me.

Regards

Jane

> I have used magnesium oil which made my skin very itchy. I wonder if this

would do the same. Got to be worth a try though. Thanks!

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Magnesium can be absorbed through the feet, via an Epsom salt foot bath. Just

make it a daily ritual to soak your feet. A treat and treatment at the same

time.

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> Hi Helen

> the one I've been using is Better You magnesium oil. It's called oil but is

actually just a very concentrated solution of magnesium salts in water. I think

that it's because my skin is so dry and sensitive coz of the hypot that the high

salt content bothers it. I'm hoping that something that's in an oil will

actually be kinder to my skin. I'll give the iron a go and if my skin copes with

that I'll try the magnesium too.

> Susie x

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I've ordered the transdermal iron. Will see how it goes! Thanks for the tip.

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> Hi Susie,

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> All of thier transdermals have an additive called ADC which is a

> carrier derived from tree bark that accelerates the absorbtion into

> the body.

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Hi All

I use the magnesium spray too and I also find it itches/stings - it mentions on

the side of the bottle that it may cause tingling but will pass once mineral

levels increase.

I also have a book " The Magnesium Miracle " by Carolyn Dean MD,ND and it mentions

magnesium oil and says that if the oil tingles or burns you can dilute the oil

by pouring half into another bottle and filling it with distilled/mineral water.

This will cut the dosage by half so you would need twice as many sprays to get

the right amount you use.

The book also says that after 30 minutes the magnesium has been absorbed so if

you feel itchy you can then wash it off.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes, Kerry x

> > I have used magnesium oil which made my skin very itchy. I wonder if this

would do the same. Got to be worth a try though. Thanks!

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