Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Can anybody give me an answer please. If the Administrators decide to delete any of the questions and answers sent to their forums - and somebody had previously made copies of these, are those questions and answers still the copyright of TalkHealth sites? Not sure I have worded this right but hope you know what I mean. How can anything be copyrighted if it doesn't exist anymore.? Luv - Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 > The overriding principle of copyright is that you don't pass somebody else's work off as your own. Therefore if you wanted to use anything from the forum as long as you cite exactly where you got the information from you are not in breach. I really know zilch about this whole subject, but when hubby published his book, citing references was not quite as plain sailing at he first thought. He found out that the whole thing was a mine field. It depends on who holds the copyrights and whoever holds them can make up the rules. Some publishers allowed up to 750 words to be published with references without permission, but it varied greatly. To obtain permission from the copyright holder was sometimes free, but more often had to be handsomely paid for. The only safe way around it is to paraphrase and refer to whoever said what, where and when, but not to reproduce the exact written word. That, apparently, is allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 MODERATED TO REMOVE MOST OF PREVIOUS MESSAGE AND LEFT JUST A FEW LINES. PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE CLICKING SEND. LUV - SHEILA _____________________________________ Regarding this copyright law a firm will design say a washing machine and then another firm will make a look a like version of the same machine, and when my former Husband used to be a mechanic on cars. They sell patten parts and not the originals. He said that there has to be so many differences in the patten part. I notice that there were a few spelling errors on the Talkhealth clinic, so could correcting these errors constitute a similar to a patten part. When I went into a lot of copyright issues with my handicraft work. I photographed a car with Mickey Mouse at the wheel, and even put one of my handicraft works with Mickey Mouse on ebay, until my daughter brought the copyright issue to my attention as MICKEY MOUSE is a copyright issue, so I quickly took it off ebay. My work was not going to be wasted however, as I placed my Grandchildren at the wheel, so it was no longer a copyright issue. If somebody designs an ornament, even to photograph it and use it in a competition is in breach of copyright. Can anyone remember signing over the copyright of our messages to Talkhealth, as I think we only gave them permission to use our messages and questions. With the answers from Talkhealth I should think you have to have permission to use them, unless the same rule could apply as in patten parts. Kathleen > > While I worked in Intellectual Property up to retirement, my involvement with copyright was limited to industrial designs so I am no expert on copyright in general. However, in registering with Talkhealth, I note that they did not ask me to agree to any restrictions on my use of the site. Their restrictions only come into play by virtue of their Terms & Conditions which I suppose we agree to by using the site - although that could be debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Sheila, the answer to this is yes they do - so far as I or anyone else understands it. I posted a couple of links on this issue yesterday* which reveal however that this is a murky area in law so there is no definitive, court-tested answer. As to the idea that copyright only applies if you try to pass work off as your own, I'm afraid this is not the case. You may not reproduce the copyright property of others, even if you give the attribution. A lot of people seem to think that you can, but legally it isn't so. I work with this rule every day (I am a moderator on messageboards) and the most we can allow people to post (from a book, song, article elsewhere on line, etc) is a brief paragraph, within the spirit of 'fair use'. More than that and it is breach of copyright. Wikipedia is one exception, as it is all public domain. Establishing what other sources are public domain can be difficult, unless the author has been dead for over 70 years. (When copyright expires). In this case, I don't think it will matter if Talkhealth delete the messages, they were still 'published' on their site and Talkhealth, according to the Terms and Conditions of that forum (which I have to admit, I didn't read) will presumably still have copyright on the posts. x H * http://www.forumdr.com/who-owns-forum-posts/67/ and: http://www.copyrightaid.co.uk/forum/topic27.htm > > Can anybody give me an answer please. > > If the Administrators decide to delete any of the questions and answers sent > to their forums - and somebody had previously made copies of these, are > those questions and answers still the copyright of TalkHealth sites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Sheila I have placed a question to the copyright dept of the UK.GOV on copyright issues, and if they send be a respose I will then put your question to them, unless you want me to place a link here to the site. Kathleen PS-Was this Talkhealth site situated in the UK, as I had noticed a time difference in the messages and they were ahead of my PC time. If it wasn't it might not come under UK law. > > Can anybody give me an answer please. > > If the Administrators decide to delete any of the questions and answers sent > to their forums - and somebody had previously made copies of these, are > those questions and answers still the copyright of TalkHealth sites? Not > sure I have worded this right but hope you know what I mean. How can > anything be copyrighted if it doesn't exist anymore.? > > Luv - Sheila > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 It must be situated in the UK because I telephoned them and it was a UK number. Sheila I have placed a question to the copyright dept of the UK.GOV on copyright issues, and if they send be a respose I will then put your question to them, unless you want me to place a link here to the site. Kathleen PS-Was this Talkhealth site situated in the UK, as I had noticed a time difference in the messages and they were ahead of my PC time. If it wasn't it might not come under UK law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Sheila The messages were under an hour ahead, but I did put a message on their board, but there was no answer when it shut down. I thought that they had blocked me out, but so was every one else.Can you send me any questions you want me to add as has a good point. Kathleen > > Kathleen, I can't answer, they may have chosen to use US time or another .. > > Luv =- sheila > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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