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In a message dated 8/6/00 11:58:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< Krugman S, Hoofnagle MD, Gerety RJ, Kaplan PM and Gerin JL. Viral

hepatitis type B: DNA polymerase activity and antibody to hepatitis B core

antigen. New England Journal of Medicine 1994; 290;24:1331-1335. NYU Medical

Center, NY 10016.

" Under US army contracts, Saul Krugman from the New York University Medical

Centre (another Army biological weapons contractor according to US

Congressional Record) injected hundreds of mentally retarded children with

cancer causing hepatitis B viruses. " --Len Horowitz (p219 Healing Codes).

>>

john,

is this saying what i think it is saying?? when did this happen??

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It is funny you have posted this information. My mother and i were talking about this type of stuff the other night on the phone.

Maybe someone here remembers the show my mother has been trying to remember for like 10 to 15 years. She says it was a true story, she though it was called project something or other. Anyway, it was true accounts of things the CIA were doing with biochemical warfare, I think that is the name. Men in nice outfits would drive around neighborhoods and some type of toxic gas was released into the air. Then they would wait to see what would happen in the hospitals.

Then the same type of men were going on subways and I guess leaving the toxic gases on them to see how many people would die or react. She says she has looked all over the internet but has had no luck, she said it was on TV what channel or the exact name she doesn't remember. We all know these things happen with the CIA but to actually see a show about it and how they did it would be a reality check.

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In a message dated 8/6/00 10:28:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

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Maybe someone here remembers the show my mother has been trying to remember

for like 10 to 15 years. She says it was a true story, she though it was

called project something or other. Anyway, it was true accounts of things

the CIA were doing with biochemical warfare >>

I just watched a show regarding these.One I remembered was the subway

exposure and the other about exposing school kids to a toxin that damages the

kidney and liver.This was about the CIA and experiments done on citizens.And

there was also another about experimenting with LSD for mind control,but I

can't remember if it was the CIA or the military that did that. I watched

these things on the history channel sometime last week.

sara

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I don't know what your post was in response to, but anyway:

1--Len terms it " cancer causing hepatitis B viruses " . The journal article

doesn't call it that.

2--You can't determine the cause of a disease by looking only at a

selective sample of people without a control. Maybe the cafeteria food

was bad. Maybe the proteins in the vaccine caused the cancer, and not the

Hep-B virus.

3--What proportion of the tested got cancer? Was it significant? How long

after the vaccinations did cancer develop. Was the delay consistent, or

did it vary.

4--I wrote to you privately about the Gays that got the vaccine. Their

cancers (KS) were consistent with their behavior (nitrite inhalents). Not

the vaccine, regardless how toxic vaccines themselves happen to be. How

many of the mentally retarded subjects contracted KS? If none of them

did, then the cancers were caused by toxological agents; not viral.

5--There is still controversy among mainstream scientists over cancer

causing viruses. Not all believe that viruses can cause human cancers. It

is only proven in animal cancers. How many papers did Horowitz reference

to support the ability of viruses to cause cancer, independent of other

toxins of course.

Will this debate never end?

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writes:

> Krugman S, Hoofnagle MD, Gerety RJ, Kaplan PM and Gerin JL. Viral

> hepatitis type B: DNA polymerase activity and antibody to hepatitis

> B core antigen. New England Journal of Medicine 1994;

> 290;24:1331-1335. NYU Medical Center, NY 10016.

>

> " Under US army contracts, Saul Krugman from the New York University

> Medical Centre (another Army biological weapons contractor according

> to US Congressional Record) injected hundreds of mentally retarded

> children with cancer causing hepatitis B viruses. " --Len Horowitz

> (p219 Healing Codes).

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I believe it was the military that did the mind control experiments using

LSD on unwitting, low rank soldiers. There's a document somewhere on the

web concerning those experiments. I came across it while doing research

trying to figure out why my brother lost his mind after being in the army.

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> In a message dated 8/6/00 10:28:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> tomnrachel@... writes:

>

> <<

> Maybe someone here remembers the show my mother has been trying to

remember

> for like 10 to 15 years. She says it was a true story, she though it was

> called project something or other. Anyway, it was true accounts of things

> the CIA were doing with biochemical warfare >>

>

> I just watched a show regarding these.One I remembered was the subway

> exposure and the other about exposing school kids to a toxin that damages

the

> kidney and liver.This was about the CIA and experiments done on

citizens.And

> there was also another about experimenting with LSD for mind control,but I

> can't remember if it was the CIA or the military that did that. I watched

> these things on the history channel sometime last week.

> sara

>

>

>

>

>

>

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This was in 74 not 94 it seems. May have a look at that one

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_ui

ds=4827643 & dopt=Abstract

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> In a message dated 8/6/00 11:58:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> whale@... writes:

>

> << Krugman S, Hoofnagle MD, Gerety RJ, Kaplan PM and Gerin JL. Viral

> hepatitis type B: DNA polymerase activity and antibody to hepatitis B core

> antigen. New England Journal of Medicine 1994; 290;24:1331-1335. NYU

Medical

> Center, NY 10016.

>

> " Under US army contracts, Saul Krugman from the New York University

Medical

> Centre (another Army biological weapons contractor according to US

> Congressional Record) injected hundreds of mentally retarded children with

> cancer causing hepatitis B viruses. " --Len Horowitz (p219 Healing Codes).

> >>

> john,

> is this saying what i think it is saying?? when did this happen??

> brigit

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In a message dated 8/7/00 9:44:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

queenearth@... writes:

<< I came across it while doing research

trying to figure out why my brother lost his mind after being in the army.

>>

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So sorry about your brother.It is horrible what they did and continue to do

to military personel as well as civilians. It is so *not* funny to see that

most people believe things like this still do not happen.

Sara

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Thank you . I remember several guys being in the army back in the 70's

and came back...different. My brother wasn't even in a war, not physical

combat anyway.

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> In a message dated 8/7/00 9:44:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> queenearth@... writes:

>

> << I came across it while doing research

> trying to figure out why my brother lost his mind after being in the

army.

>

> >>

> ,

> So sorry about your brother.It is horrible what they did and continue to

do

> to military personel as well as civilians. It is so *not* funny to see

that

> most people believe things like this still do not happen.

> Sara

>

>

>

>

>

>

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