Guest guest Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 > I would be really grateful if someone would help me understand recent some blood tests that I have just had.> Free T3 4.91 pmol/L ref range [2.63-5.70]> Free T4 14.38 pmol/L ref range [9.01-19.05]> TSH level Lo <0.01 mIU/L [0.35-4.94] > I currently take 4 grains of Erfa Thyroid and support my adrenals with 15mg Cortef daily.> > I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's Disease about 11 years ago and have been trying to get well ever since.This site has been a godsend,it has helped me take control of my health although I still have to do battle with NHS!I think my results are ok although I'm not sure if my FT4 needs to be a little higher.I am better than I have ever been,diagnosed with M.E. 24 years ago, but still feel I have a way to go.My day to day life is still limited by fatigue and other Hypo Symptoms.Any thoughts and feedback would be greatly appreciated,my brain still struggles with numbers! Hi Ginny, Your lab results look good to me. On natural thyroid the FT4 is usually a little lower in relation to the FT3. This is because the ratio of T4:T3 is a little higher in NDT than it would be if our thyroid glands would work normally. If you wanted your FT4 a little higher, you could always supplement with 25 mcg Levothyroxin in addition. Personally I don't think it is necessary, because the T4 is only the back-up hormone, waiting to be converted into the active T3. But we are all different and some people say it helps. Rule of thumb - if things feel right, then things ARE right.... but even on the right medication it still takes a few months to a year for the body to recover its former health - we hypos need a lot of patience.... All the best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Ginny, if you have not had the following blood tests done recently, can you ask your GP to do these in case any are low in the reference range. If any of these are low, the thyroid hormone cannot be properly utilised at the cellular level and you will still continue to suffer symptoms until whatever is low has been increased with supplements. Iron, transferrin saturation%, ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc. Your blood test results look fine, and your fT4 is OK. For anybody taking natural thyroid extract, the fT4 is often low and TSH completely suppressed. However, it matters whether you took your Erfa Thyroid on the morning you had your blood drawn for the test. If you did, then I would have expected your fT3 to have been a lot higher, but if you stopped it the day before, then your fT3 result is fine. Also, check out the following by way of a process of elimination to make sure none of these associated conditions with hypothyroidism are getting in the way. There are MANY reasons and many medical conditions associated with thyroid disease that stop thyroid hormone from getting into the cells, where it does its work. I mention these over and over and over again - ad nauseum - people must be bored with the same old stuff, but as each new member joins us, they need to know about these. The main condition responsible for stopping thyroid hormone from working is, quite simply, a patient’s thyroxine dose is too low because the doctor or consultant refuses to increase it, because the serum thyroid function test results appear OK. Sometimes, the thyroxine dose is too high, yet patients still don't feel well. They continue to suffer. Some reasons for this: They may be suffering with low adrenal reserve. The production of T4, its conversion to T3, and the receptor uptake requires a normal amount of adrenal hormones, notably, of course, cortisone. (Excess cortisone can shut production down, however.) This is what happens if the adrenals are not responding properly, and provision of cortisone usually switches it on again. But sometimes it doesn’t. If the illness has been going on for a long time, the enzyme seems to fail. This conversion failure (inexplicably denied by many endocrinologists) means the thyroxine builds up, unconverted. So it doesn’t work, and T4 toxicosis results. This makes the patient feel quite unwell, toxic, often with palpitations and chest pain. If provision of adrenal support doesn’t remedy the situation, the final solution is the use of the active thyroid hormone, already converted, T3 - either synthetic or natural. Then, we have systemic candidiasis. This is where candida albicans, yeast, which causes skin infections almost anywhere in the body, invades the lining of the lower part of the small intestine and the large intestine. Here, the candida sets up residence in the warmth and the dark, and demands to be fed. Loving sugars and starches, candida can make you suffer terrible sweet cravings. Candida can produce toxins which can cause very many symptoms of exhaustion, headache, general illness, and which interfere with the uptake of thyroid and adrenal treatment. Sometimes the levels - which we usually test for - can be very high, and make successful treatment difficult to achieve until adequately treated. Then there is receptor resistance which could be a culprit. Being hypothyroid for some considerable time may mean the biochemical mechanisms which permit the binding of T3 to the receptors, is downgraded - so the T3 won’t go in. With slow build up of T3, with full adrenal support and adequate vitamins and minerals, the receptors do come on line again. But this can be quite a slow process, and care has to be taken to build the dose up gradually. And then there are Food allergies. The most common food allergy is allergy to gluten, the protein fraction of wheat. The antibody generated by the body, by a process of molecular mimicry, cross reacts with the thyroperoxidase enzyme, (which makes thyroxine) and shuts it down. So allergy to bread can make you hypothyroid. There may be other food allergies with this kind of effect, but information on these is scanty. Certainly allergic response to certain foods can affect adrenal function and imperil thyroid production and uptake. Then we have hormone imbalances. The whole of the endocrine system is linked; each part of it needs the other parts to be operating normally to work properly. An example of this we have seen already, with cortisone. But another example is the operation of sex hormones. The imbalance that occurs at the menopause with progesterone running down, and a relative dominance of oestrogen is a further case in point – oestrogen dominance downgrades production, transportation and uptake of thyroid hormones. This is why hypothyroidism may first appear at the menopause; the symptoms ascribed to this alone, which is then treated – often with extra oestrogen, making the whole thing worse. Deficiency in progesterone most especially needs to be dealt with, since it reverses oestrogen dominance, improves many menopausal symptoms like sweats and mood swings, and reverses osteoporosis. Happily natural progesterone cream is easily obtained: when used it has the added benefit of helping to stabilise adrenal function. Then, we must never forget the possibility of mercury poisoning (through amalgam fillings) - low levels of iron, transferring saturation%, ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc - all of which, if low, stop the thyroid hormone from being utilised by the cells - these have to be treated. As Dr Peatfield says " When you have been quite unwell for a long time, all these problems have to be dealt with; and since each may affect the other, it all has to be done rather carefully. Contrary to cherished beliefs by much of the medical establishment, the correction of a thyroid deficiency state has a number of complexities and variables, which make the treatment usually quite specific for each person. The balancing of these variables is as much up to you as to me – which is why a check of morning, day and evening temperatures and pulse rates, together with symptoms, good and bad, can be so helpful. The above problems must be eliminated if thyroid hormone isn't working for you. Luv - Sheila I currently take 4 grains of Erfa Thyroid and support my adrenals with 15mg Cortef daily. I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's Disease about 11 years ago and have been trying to get well ever since.This site has been a godsend,it has helped me take control of my health although I still have to do battle with NHS!I think my results are ok although I'm not sure if my FT4 needs to be a little higher.I am better than I have ever been,diagnosed with M.E. 24 years ago, but still feel I have a way to go.My day to day life is still limited by fatigue and other Hypo Symptoms.Any thoughts and feedback would be greatly appreciated,my brain still struggles with numbers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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