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I feel your pain. My brother's wife had a confirmed case of the flu. Apparently

my brother now has it. One of the kids let it slip to my mom, and she asked them

to wait to come over till we left. Never crossed their minds. They just planned

for her to stay away from my kids. Hello, the kids will probably get it from the

parents. All I could say was, " Good save, Mom! " People just don't think.

Actually, they were very nice about it.

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This is so irritating!! Everyone in our family knows of our childrensPIDD's. We

have four asthmatic kids, three of those with CVID.Everyone knows to check in

with me before a family gathering ifsomeone in their household is sick.

So.......we went to my parents house for Christmas, as usual. AFTER wecome in

and give hugs all the way around the family......AFTER we sittogether to

eat.......AFTER we all hand out gifts and give, again,hugs for those

received.....my brother tells me his wife has beenpuking all day, and having

diarrhea, and he had it the day before. WHY??? why would anyone go to a family

Christmas puking? esp when youknow your sisters kids have CVID? It just blows my

mind they wouldntthink to call and let me know they had this, and that they were

stillcoming, I would have stayed home!! Now Ive got one puking kid, andvery

likely the other three will catch it, and we'll be home puking,or at the

hospital puking, for all of the kids winter break. GGRRRRR!!!!valariemom to 3

w/cvid

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I would be furious! I hope you guys recover quickly and feel free to send

your brother some coal grrr.

RANT!!

> This is so irritating!! Everyone in our family knows of our childrens

> PIDD's. We have four asthmatic kids, three of those with CVID.

> Everyone knows to check in with me before a family gathering if

> someone in their household is sick.

> So.......we went to my parents house for Christmas, as usual. AFTER we

> come in and give hugs all the way around the family......AFTER we sit

> together to eat.......AFTER we all hand out gifts and give, again,

> hugs for those received.....my brother tells me his wife has been

> puking all day, and having diarrhea, and he had it the day before.

>

> WHY??? why would anyone go to a family Christmas puking? esp when you

> know your sisters kids have CVID? It just blows my mind they wouldnt

> think to call and let me know they had this, and that they were still

> coming, I would have stayed home!! Now Ive got one puking kid, and

> very likely the other three will catch it, and we'll be home puking,

> or at the hospital puking, for all of the kids winter break.

>

> GGRRRRR!!!!

>

> valarie

> mom to 3 w/cvid

>

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It's happened to us too. In my parents in law's minds, they thought if they all

washed their hands and kept the gastro child in another room, everything would

be fine.

Hello? Gastro is contagious before the V & D starts too.

My FIL had actually picked it up from the one grandchild that isn't ours, passed

it on to one of our oldest, before he had any signs and symptoms, who then

brought it home!

My eldest daughter was devastated when she discovered there was gastro in the

house. SHE got it and she's only 12 but my in laws still don't understand.

They just don't get it.

I hope your family recover okay and that you can avoid the hospital.

Tiff

RANT!!

This is so irritating!! Everyone in our family knows of our childrens

PIDD's. We have four asthmatic kids, three of those with CVID.

Everyone knows to check in with me before a family gathering if

someone in their household is sick.

So.......we went to my parents house for Christmas, as usual. AFTER we

come in and give hugs all the way around the family......AFTER we sit

together to eat.......AFTER we all hand out gifts and give, again,

hugs for those received.....my brother tells me his wife has been

puking all day, and having diarrhea, and he had it the day before.

WHY??? why would anyone go to a family Christmas puking? esp when you

know your sisters kids have CVID? It just blows my mind they wouldnt

think to call and let me know they had this, and that they were still

coming, I would have stayed home!! Now Ive got one puking kid, and

very likely the other three will catch it, and we'll be home puking,

or at the hospital puking, for all of the kids winter break.

GGRRRRR!!!!

valarie

mom to 3 w/cvid

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  • 3 years later...

Just got back from seeing my GP, whose a personal friend, what a @~%*@@*

pillock, excuse my French.

I've had Hashi's since February 2011 and was on 100 mcgm of Levo when I went

backwards in September, I've been increasing since then and now on 200 mcgm

since just over a week and not feeling too bad, but far from right. He reckoned

that I should be on 150 mcgm because my TSH was ok on that in November,

regardless of how I was feeling, my TSH 3 weeks ago on 175 mcgm was 0.02 with a

whole host of niggling little symptoms.

I've been getting him to test various things, tips from this group, but his

reasoning this time was completely flawed and I took great delight (maybe I

shouldn't) in discrediting almost everything he put forward.

At this point I think he realised he was out of his depth and is referring me to

an endo.

Interestingly, after I got him to get more bloods done for the essential

vitamins and minerals, he looked back in my notes and said I was slightly

anaemic! That doesn't help. I kept telling him that for healthy people being low

in any range vitamin, mineral or whatever might not have any effect, but when

you're ill it can have implications as to how well you might recover. At this

point he then went back to 'we must go out cycling soon' at which point I

thought time to leave after telling him 'when I'm better'.

Rant over, sorry. It's just that you will all understand what I'm rambling on

about.

Geraint.

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Hi

Just curious what's your T4?

Lele x

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> Just got back from seeing my GP, whose a personal friend, what a @~%*@@*

pillock, excuse my French.

>

> I've had Hashi's since February 2011 and was on 100 mcgm of Levo when I went

backwards in September, I've been increasing since then and now on 200 mcgm

since just over a week and not feeling too bad, but far from right. He reckoned

that I should be on 150 mcgm because

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Hi Geraint,

I'm sure you've got most of the tests covered.

I'd just like to add that not many patients get a 100% recovery on T4 only.

You've probably been told that also.

You'd be better off with either natural thyroid or a T4/T3 combo.

Also in terms of iron you really need transferrin saturation % to be in the

35-45% region and a decent level of serum iron - well over half way up the

reference range, ideally ferritin would be at/over 90 also. Don't be fobbed off

with just getting your numbers in range.

Best wishes,

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Geraint

- next time you see him, copy out the list below and ask him to take these into

account next time he has a patient not recovering their health on thyroid

hormone replacement. These are just a few of the references to some of the research/studies

that have been done to show the association between low levels of nutrients and

low thyroid.

Low

iron/ferritin:

Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 conversion, increase

reverse T3 levels, and block the thermogenic (metabolism boosting) properties

of thyroid hormone (1-4). Thus, iron deficiency, as indicated by an iron

saturation below 25 or a ferritin below 70, will result in diminished

intracellular T3 levels. Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate

thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present (1-4)).

1. Dillman E, Gale C, Green

W, et al. Hypothermia in iron deficiency due to altered triiodithyroidine

metabolism. Regulatory, Integrative and Comparative Physiology

1980;239(5):377-R381.

2. SM, PE,

Lukaski HC. In vitro hepatic thyroid hormone deiodination in iron-deficient

rats: effect of dietary fat. Life Sci 1993;53(8):603-9.

3. Zimmermann MB, Köhrle J.

The Impact of Iron and Selenium Deficiencies on Iodine and Thyroid Metabolism:

Biochemistry and Relevance to Public Health. Thyroid 2002;12(10): 867-78.

4. Beard J, tobin B, Green

W. Evidence for Thyroid Hormone Deficiency in Iron-Deficient Anemic Rats. J.

Nutr. 1989;119:772-778.

Low vitamin B12: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403

Low vitamin D3: http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/113/3/329

and http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/VitaminD.pdf

Low magnesium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC292768/pdf/jcinvest00264-0105.pdf

Low folate: http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/47/9/1738

and http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.1999.9.1163

Low  copper http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htm

http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm

http://www.rjpbcs.com/pdf/2011_2(2)/68.pdf

http://ajplegacy.physiology.org/content/171/3/652.extract

Low zinc:http://www.istanbul.edu.tr/ffdbiyo/current4/07%20Iham%20AM%C4%B0R.pdf

and http://articles.webraydian.com/article1648-Role_of_Zinc_and_Copper_in_Effective_Thyroid_Function.html

Luv - Sheila

Interestingly, after I got him to get more bloods done for the essential vitamins

and minerals, he looked back in my notes and said I was slightly anaemic! That

doesn't help. I kept telling him that for healthy people being low in any range

vitamin, mineral or whatever might not have any effect, but when you're ill it

can have implications as to how well you might recover. At this point he then

went back to 'we must go out cycling soon' at which point I thought time to

leave after telling him 'when I'm better'.

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