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Hi all,

My Natural Killer Cell count after 6 weeks of glutathione/ATP injections

went from 90 to 108.

I am pleased they went up but was expecting a higher number since I am

feeling so much better.

Is this a good jump? Can others share their progress?

Thanks,

Marty Z.

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How much of a increase in energy did you get from the APT injections?\\

thanks

Steve

Marty Zavala wrote:

> From: " Marty Zavala " <martyz@...>

>

> Hi all,

> My Natural Killer Cell count after 6 weeks of glutathione/ATP injections

> went from 90 to 108.

>

> I am pleased they went up but was expecting a higher number since I am

> feeling so much better.

>

> Is this a good jump? Can others share their progress?

>

> Thanks,

> Marty Z.

>

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>From: " Dr. Steve " <moores@...>

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>How much of a increase in energy did you get from the APT injections?\\

>

I did not notice a burst or increase in energy as much as a reversal of

symptoms. I am detoxing so I feel slightly sleepy, brain fogged and a

little tired. There have been days of clarity not just cognitive but

physical. I felt great as in no pain, no soreness, no fatigue. Only lasts

a few hours. I have to discipline myself to not take full advantage or else

I will pay the piper.

Before I started the injections, though, I had:

joint pain - Went away

muscle pain - Decreased significantly - can move easier - don't have to make

an effort to walk

FATIGUE - Decreased - going for walks now instead of just across my kitchen

Fever - Went away

Swollen glands - decreased in size and tenderness slightly

tingling, under scalp headache - now, I get this only when I overdo it

dry, painful eyes - got slightly better

vision distortion - regained 50% of loss then stopped

insomnia - off Elavil, sleep well even without Valerian Root

tingling in elbows, hands, fingers - gone

poly-migratory arthritis - only get this 2 out of 10 days

basically the entire CDC list

I don't know if the ATP is to boost energy as much as it is to carry the

glutathione across the cell membrane because the body does not absorb

glutathione from blood very well. Which I think is why Dr. Salvato does not

recommend supplemental glutathione (capsule form of GSH) and uses the

injections instead. Does someone know if this is the case?

This is my understanding from research on medline on glutathione. Do not

have the reference since I did not keep copies of the studies I was ready.

GOBS of stuff on glutathione.

Marty Z.

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Hi, I got back the result of my potassium and it has dropped again to 2.7. And I had to increase my "slow K" to 3 pills (1800 mg) a day. (This has happened steadily over the last four months.) Have other people encountered this problem? I didt not get the aldosterone test result. But my Dr. expects it to show abnormal amounts. Thanks Carol-

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yup i did i was on 50 meqs aday for a while after the aldosterone it has held for a month or so

Re: blood test results

Hi, I got back the result of my potassium and it has dropped again to 2.7. And I had to increase my "slow K" to 3 pills (1800 mg) a day. (This has happened steadily over the last four months.) Have other people encountered this problem? I didt not get the aldosterone test result. But my Dr. expects it to show abnormal amounts. Thanks Carol-

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Carol:

I am concerned about your potassium and your amount of

potassium. This amount can be very hard on the stomach, and result

in severe diarrhea. Also epigastric pain, pain in the stomach, with

reflux. A diuretic that spares potassium is amiloride, and that

might ease your taking of potassium. Be agressive in finding a

better way to manage your health. There are some good alternatives.

Wayne Bongianni

> Hi, I got back the result of my potassium and it has dropped again

to 2.7. And I had to increase my " slow K " to 3 pills (1800 mg) a

day. (This has happened steadily over the last four months.) Have

other people encountered this problem? I didt not get the aldosterone

test result. But my Dr. expects it to show abnormal amounts. Thanks

Carol-

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Hi, Thanks for your reply. I do not take

any diuretics, and I think the reason I am losing potassium may be because the aldosterone is over active. I hope to get the blood results this

week. Thanks again, Carol

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Carol:

I am concerned about your

potassium and your amount of

potassium. This amount can be very hard on

the stomach, and result

in severe diarrhea. Also epigastric pain,

pain in the stomach, with

reflux. A diuretic that spares potassium is

amiloride, and that

might ease your taking of potassium. Be

agressive in finding a

better way to manage your health. There are

some good alternatives.

Wayne Bongianni

> Hi, I got back the result of my potassium and

it has dropped again

to 2.7. And I had to increase my " slow

K " to 3 pills (1800 mg) a

day. (This has happened steadily over the last

four months.) Have

other people encountered this problem? I didt not

get the aldosterone

test result. But my Dr. expects it to show

abnormal amounts. Thanks

Carol-

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you are prpbly right let me know what u get on your tast i still havent seen mine and the 1 i did wasnt right so i have to do it over

RE: Re: blood test results

Hi, Thanks for your reply. I do not take any diuretics, and I think the reason I am losing potassium may be because the aldosterone is over active. I hope to get the blood results this week. Thanks again, Carol

-----Original Message-----From: wbongianni [mailto:wbongianni@...] Sent: 30 March 2003 15:33hyperaldosteronism Subject: Re: blood test results

Carol: I am concerned about your potassium and your amount of potassium. This amount can be very hard on the stomach, and result in severe diarrhea. Also epigastric pain, pain in the stomach, with reflux. A diuretic that spares potassium is amiloride, and that might ease your taking of potassium. Be agressive in finding a better way to manage your health. There are some good alternatives. Wayne Bongianni> Hi, I got back the result of my potassium and it has dropped again to 2.7. And I had to increase my "slow K" to 3 pills (1800 mg) a day. (This has happened steadily over the last four months.) Have other people encountered this problem? I didt not get the aldosterone test result. But my Dr. expects it to show abnormal amounts. Thanks Carol-

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> Hi, I got back the result of my potassium and it has dropped again

to 2.7. And I had to increase my " slow K " to 3 pills (1800 mg) a

day. (This has happened steadily over the last four months.) Have

other people encountered this problem? I didt not get the aldosterone

test result. But my Dr. expects it to show abnormal amounts. Thanks

Carol-

Are you seeing a Nephrologist? Kidney doctors are the best for

combining medications to ease your blood pressure. Many of the

medications must be " tinkered with " Some lower your blood pressure by

dumping potassium. They have to stop ar at least block some of the

aldostrone in order to slow the cycle somewhat.

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> Hi, I got back the result of my potassium and it has dropped again

to 2.7. And I had to increase my " slow K " to 3 pills (1800 mg) a

day. (This has happened steadily over the last four months.) Have

other people encountered this problem? I didt not get the aldosterone

test result. But my Dr. expects it to show abnormal amounts. Thanks

Carol-

Are you seeing a Nephrologist? Kidney doctors are the best for

combining medications to ease your blood pressure. Many of the

medications must be " tinkered with " Some lower your blood pressure by

dumping potassium. They have to stop ar at least block some of the

aldostrone in order to slow the cycle somewhat.

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Hi Jacqui,

J's blood test results are very similar to my son's, I also read the info on heart attacks and strokes and panicked, but I was told that along with the other markers, it was probably caused by a 'sluggish' liver. Is J very toxic? Was his serum Iron on the high side? My son's was elevated at 32 (ref range 10.6 - 28.3) which indicated that his liver wasn't storing his iron as it should. Is it a while before you see Dr H?

hth

Diane

Blood test results

Just received J's blood test results from DrH and can't make head nor tail of them! All are within normal limits except the following:Platelet count 470 150 - 400White Cell Count 11.25 3.0 - 10.0Monocytes 5.5% 0.7 - 1.5Bicarbonate 20 22 - 29Aspartate Transferase 38 0 - 31LDH 586 240 - 480CK 227 26 - 140Anyone understand these? I have tried to google some of them but I seem to be getting info on heart attacks - bit scary!I will email these to the lab testing group too but I would be grateful of any info/comments or ideas where I can go to have them translated into english!TIAJacqui

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Hi Jacqui,

Like you our son's blood levels were very similar (although we did

not get a platelet reading). When I looked up the stuff the elevated

levels of bicarbonate, Aspartate and LDH seemed to be linked to organ

damage, in that these are raised when damage has occurred. My son

has high levels of lead in particular and that causes damage to just

about every organ in the body unfortunately. I am assuming that this

is why the levels are elevated.

If you do contact Dr Heard would be very interested to here his

interpretation.

Regards

> Just received J's blood test results from DrH and can't make head

> nor tail of them! All are within normal limits except the

following:

>

> Platelet count 470 150 - 400

> White Cell Count 11.25 3.0 - 10.0

> Monocytes 5.5% 0.7 - 1.5

>

> Bicarbonate 20 22 - 29

>

> Aspartate Transferase 38 0 - 31

> LDH 586 240 - 480

> CK 227 26 - 140

>

>

>

> Anyone understand these? I have tried to google some of them but I

> seem to be getting info on heart attacks - bit scary!

>

> I will email these to the lab testing group too but I would be

> grateful of any info/comments or ideas where I can go to have them

> translated into english!

>

> TIA

>

> Jacqui

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Again thanks for the info - I am intending on writing a real short

email to Dr H re this (still feel guilty as I know he is SO busy) -

but lead would make sense - hair test prior any intervention showed

ALMOST red lead - now we're chelating lead may be sky high - I will

write once other tests are back. I am a little jumpy as I have RA

and I am hoping more than anything that has not inherited

this along with all the other probs she has....

Jacqui X

> > Just received J's blood test results from DrH and can't make

head

> > nor tail of them! All are within normal limits except the

> following:

> >

> > Platelet count 470 150 - 400

> > White Cell Count 11.25 3.0 - 10.0

> > Monocytes 5.5% 0.7 - 1.5

> >

> > Bicarbonate 20 22 - 29

> >

> > Aspartate Transferase 38 0 - 31

> > LDH 586 240 - 480

> > CK 227 26 - 140

> >

> >

> >

> > Anyone understand these? I have tried to google some of them

but I

> > seem to be getting info on heart attacks - bit scary!

> >

> > I will email these to the lab testing group too but I would be

> > grateful of any info/comments or ideas where I can go to have

them

> > translated into english!

> >

> > TIA

> >

> > Jacqui

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I will email these to the lab testing group too

Jacqui,

Could you post details of the labtesting group please. I have 's results back and will not be speaking to Dr H for another few weeks.

Jane

Re: Blood test results

Hi Jacqui,Like you our son's blood levels were very similar (although we did not get a platelet reading). When I looked up the stuff the elevated levels of bicarbonate, Aspartate and LDH seemed to be linked to organ damage, in that these are raised when damage has occurred. My son has high levels of lead in particular and that causes damage to just about every organ in the body unfortunately. I am assuming that this is why the levels are elevated.If you do contact Dr Heard would be very interested to here his interpretation.Regards> Just received J's blood test results from DrH and can't make head > nor tail of them! All are within normal limits except the following:> > Platelet count 470 150 - 400> White Cell Count 11.25 3.0 - 10.0> Monocytes 5.5% 0.7 - 1.5> > Bicarbonate 20 22 - 29> > Aspartate Transferase 38 0 - 31> LDH 586 240 - 480> CK 227 26 - 140> > > > Anyone understand these? I have tried to google some of them but I > seem to be getting info on heart attacks - bit scary!> > I will email these to the lab testing group too but I would be > grateful of any info/comments or ideas where I can go to have them > translated into english!> > TIA> > Jacqui

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Hi, I agree with Steph. I have been having the same thoughts

recently, that if there was a problem with some results and that you

should be stopping chelation or something you don't want to be waiting

3 months or so to find out! Do you think that they test results are

scanned at Breakspear as soon as they come back in case they highlight

something that needs addressing urgently? Or is it only just before

your appointment that Dr H would have time to look at them. Perhaps I

should be asking him this question, just sounding off..

Sally in Manchester

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Hi Jane

It's labtestingdiscussions@...

HTH

Jacqui (though I haven't had any replies to it yet!)

> > Just received J's blood test results from DrH and can't make

head

> > nor tail of them! All are within normal limits except the

> following:

> >

> > Platelet count 470 150 - 400

> > White Cell Count 11.25 3.0 - 10.0

> > Monocytes 5.5% 0.7 - 1.5

> >

> > Bicarbonate 20 22 - 29

> >

> > Aspartate Transferase 38 0 - 31

> > LDH 586 240 - 480

> > CK 227 26 - 140

> >

> >

> >

> > Anyone understand these? I have tried to google some of them

but I

> > seem to be getting info on heart attacks - bit scary!

> >

> > I will email these to the lab testing group too but I would be

> > grateful of any info/comments or ideas where I can go to have

them

> > translated into english!

> >

> > TIA

> >

> > Jacqui

>

>

>

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as

medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a

suitably qualified practitioner.

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post the results natasa many people can help on list natasa778 <neno@...> wrote: Does anyone know how to read plasma cysteine levels from lab results? They don't appear under such name... unless this particular test - 'blood pathology report' did not cover that at all??Thanks,Natasa

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Hi

If yours are the same as the ones from the Breakspear then the

Pathology Report does not show cysteine - that comes as a separate

test.

HTH

Jacqui

>

> Does anyone know how to read plasma cysteine levels from lab

results? They don't appear under such name... unless this particular

test - 'blood pathology report' did not cover that at all??

>

> Thanks,

>

> Natasa

>

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In a message dated 30/01/2006 20:58:49 GMT Standard Time, neno@... writes:

Gluthation was low so... I guess I'll have to follow my instinct on this one and continue with garlic for a while...

>>if the child does well with the sulphurous foods - means he needs em :)

Mandi in Dorset

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In a message dated 30/01/2006 17:36:27 GMT Standard Time, neno@... writes:

Are there any outside markers to recognise if levels are high? The reason I'm asking is that I recently started feeding ds tons of crushed garlic (supposed to do wonders for gut bad guys, viruses, inflammation etc) but have just read in Anita's viral file that it should not be eaten if cysteine levels are high...

>>>Going well on the garlic? If so I'd keep it up - good stuff :)

Mandi in Dorset

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In a message dated 30/01/2006 17:32:28 GMT Standard Time, Desperate4DPMSEurope@... writes:

Not 100% sure - but I thought it was very common for ASD kids to have high Cysteine levels?

>>>>I think its probably even stevens. Does effect how they react to certain supps and foods

Mandi x

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Hi Gail!

I was a non-responder to the original combo. It was 8 months of pure hell for me. Right now it's just dealing with the myriad manifestations of this disease. I lost another tooth 2 weeks ago so I think it's time to get the rest pulled out.

I see my Hepatologist on 9/1 and I'll see what he thinks about treatment. I would like to skip the peg and go right to Infergen if I can. If not than I'll probably go for the peg. At least this time I know the sides going in and I have much less responsibilities and no other "situations" (like the divorce from hell I was going through) that I have to deal with. I would like to lose weight and get in better shape before I start though.

Allan with 2 L's damn the future is bright

Blood test results

Hi Y'all,

Got my quarterly bloods back. Ammonia is down, AST/ALT is down, all the other stuff looks decent except my viral load went up 25 percent to 109,000,000.

The Dragon rages on.

Allan with 2 L's

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I

think it’s great that the other numbers went down in spite of the dragon.

Love

& hugs,

De

Blood test results

Hi Y'all,

Got my quarterly bloods back.

Ammonia is down, AST/ALT is down, all the other stuff looks decent except my

viral load went up 25 percent to 109,000,000.

The Dragon rages on.

Allan with 2 L's

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Thanks De!

Me too! My Hemoglobin A1C was actually 6.3, 2 tenths of a point from upper limit of normal.

Allan with 2 L's

RE: Blood test results

I think it’s great that the other numbers went down in spite of the dragon.

Love & hugs,

De

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ] On Behalf Of Allan W Anger JrSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 10:11 AMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Blood test results

Hi Y'all,

Got my quarterly bloods back. Ammonia is down, AST/ALT is down, all the other stuff looks decent except my viral load went up 25 percent to 109,000,000.

The Dragon rages on.

Allan with 2 L's

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