Guest guest Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 , What a mess.... why are you taking T3, T4 AND armour? Are you just hedging your bets... in as much as you hope one of them will work? I take Natural Thyroid (actully nature throid) 3 grains at night and then a little t3 in the morning, becuse I need more t3 than you get in NT... Sheil;a takes NT and adds a little T4 to it because she needs more t4 and less T3, but I've not heard of anyone who does all the meds...... Have you read in the files how to take Natural thyroid? You start slowly and build the dose.... Don't take the calcium anywhere near thyroid meds..... leave 4 hours between them minimum... > > I take: > 1/4 grain of Armour at bedtime; > 1/2 grain of Armour + 6.25 of T3 before breakfast; > 6.25 of Levo + 6.25 of T3 - mid-morning; > 1/4 grain of Armour + 6.25 of T3 around 1.30pm (lunch after 3.00); > 6.25 of T3 x 3 times over rest of day - stopping around 9.00 pm. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Thyroid supplements (T4, Armour etc.) should be separated from calcium and iron supplements by 3 to 4 hours from what I have read. Watch out for food and drink products fortified with vits and minerals too. Lots of cereal products have these added to them usually including iron. > > Can anyone tell me which Vits etc to spread out (e.g. like zinc and calcium or ANYTHING that might interfere with meds) when taking Armour, tiny amount of Levo (why I don't know!) and T3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Just for the record I take presently 100mcg Thyroxine and 3 grains of Erfa - all at bedtime and then t3 if/when I need it during the day.Dawn M From: Galathea <galathea@...> thyroid treatment Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2012, 20:40 Subject: Re: Which Vits/Mins to spread out between Thyroid meds? I've not heard of anyone who does all the meds...... > > I take: > 1/4 grain of Armour at bedtime; > 1/2 grain of Armour + 6.25 of T3 before breakfast; > 6.25 of Levo + 6.25 of T3 - mid-morning; > 1/4 grain of Armour + 6.25 of T3 around 1.30pm (lunch after 3.00); > 6.25 of T3 x 3 times over rest of day - stopping around 9.00 pm. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hi - you need to take Selenium 200mgs daily with food plus high doses of vitamin C e.g. 2/3000mgs daily, plus a good B complex and possibly zinc if your levels are low. If you are taking any calcium or iron supplements be sure to take these at least four hours away from your thyroid hormone. Who recommended that you use synthetic T3, T4 and natural thyroid extract??? You really don't need these. You should be taking either the synthetic T4 alone, T4/T3 combination, or natural thyroid extract. But not all these together. So, you are taking daily - in total: 1 grain (60mgs) Armour Thyroid 25mcgs T3 6.25mcgs levothyroxine (T4) I would stop the 6.25mcgs of levothyroxine, you wouldn't give a baby such a low dose. It is unlikely to be doing anything for you and it is a mainly inactive thyroid hormone anyway as it has to convert to the active T3 to help make every cell in your body and brain work. I would also, at this stage, be tempted to stop the T3 and see how you get on with just the natural thyroid extract. If, at some future date, you find that the T4 and T3 isn't enough for you that is in your Armour, you can then think about adding a little T3 (or T4) into the mix at a later date. Check out the attached document which tells you 'How to Treat Using Natural Thyroid Extract' and follow the instructions from there. Read it carefully, and if there is anything you don't understand, just shout. Be sure to take the minerals/vitamins you need , but please, do not try to do this on your own without first asking on the forum for recommendations. I guess you have been driven to self treat, as so many of us have, but it is absolutely essential that you read as much as you can so you understand completely the reasons why you need to do this. If you are suffering with palpitations, you are taking too much of something - this is a warning sign. To help ease palpitations, take 500mgs Magnesium. Luv - Sheila. Can anyone tell me which Vits etc to spread out (e.g. like zinc and calcium or ANYTHING that might interfere with meds) when taking Armour, tiny amount of Levo (why I don't know!) and T3? I take: 1/4 grain of Armour at bedtime; 1/2 grain of Armour + 6.25 of T3 before breakfast; 6.25 of Levo + 6.25 of T3 - mid-morning; 1/4 grain of Armour + 6.25 of T3 around 1.30pm (lunch after 3.00); 6.25 of T3 x 3 times over rest of day - stopping around 9.00 pm I would really appreciate if someone could let me know, just in case I'm making things worse by the timing of taking all of this stuff (which, incidentally, has certainly improved my life). No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4811 - Release Date: 02/15/12 1 of 1 File(s) A22.HOW TO TREAT WITH NATURAL THYROID EXTRACT.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hi Dawn I can't get my head around why anybody would want to take their Erfa at night. Surely all the good benefits you get from thyroid extract is wasted when you are fast asleep. The active T3 peaks in your blood between 2 to 3 hours after taking it and you feel the great benefit for between 6 to 8 hours, and then it starts to fade. This is why we recommend taking half your dose when you first wake, and the other half dose around 2.00p.m. to 3.00p.m. - this keeps the engine topped up. If you took your Erfa during the day Dawn, you probably wouldn't need to extra T3. It's good to take levothyroxine at night though and studies have proved this works better than taking it during the day. Luv - Sheila Just for the record I take presently 100mcg Thyroxine and 3 grains of Erfa - all at bedtime and then t3 if/when I need it during the day. Dawn M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Hi Shelia, I can see where you're coming from but when I changed from taking it at night from taking it in the morning (I was on Armour then)I just felt better. Since I've been on this dose my husband is amazed by the difference it has made - if I have a very energetic day I can do the same the next day and the next without getting worn out or jelly legs - which hasn't happen for years. All I can say is it works for me - I very rarely need the T3 and it's usually when I am coming down with something or if something has happened that is really stressful. Dawn M x > > Hi Dawn > > I can't get my head around why anybody would want to take their Erfa at night. Surely all the good benefits you get from thyroid extract is wasted when you are fast asleep. The active T3 peaks in your blood between 2 to 3 hours after taking it and you feel the great benefit for between 6 to 8 hours, and then it starts to fade. This is why we recommend taking half your dose when you first wake, and the other half dose around 2.00p.m. to 3.00p.m. - this keeps the engine topped up. If you took your Erfa during the day Dawn, you probably wouldn't need to extra T3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Presumably that should read 200mcgs? (micrograms) x H > > Hi - you need to take Selenium 200mgs daily with food Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Yes, well spotted. Selenium 200mcgs daily with food. Many thanks Luv - Sheila From: thyroid treatment [mailto:thyroid treatment ] On Behalf Of Helen Sent: 17 February 2012 14:08 thyroid treatment Subject: Re: Which Vits/Mins to spread out between Thyroid meds? Presumably that should read 200mcgs? (micrograms) x H > > Hi - you need to take Selenium 200mgs daily with food No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4814 - Release Date: 02/16/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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