Guest guest Posted February 7, 2000 Report Share Posted February 7, 2000 I've been taking DHEA at varying doses between 25-100mg/day for the past four years. The other day I bought Twin Lab brand for the first time and was interested to read the warning on the label: Warning: This product should not be taken by any person under 40 years of age. Not for use by children. Also, this product should not be used by pregnant or nursing women or women capable of bearing children. Do not use if you are a woman at risk or being treated for heart disease. Do not use this product if you have breast, uterine, ovarian or prostate cancer or prostate problems. Persons suffering from or at risk for any disease should consult a physician before using this product. This is the first time that I've seen such an extensive warning on a DHEA bottle. I bet there is research behind the warning that might be worth looking at. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 Theresa, I took DHEA for about four years. I varied my dose from 25mg/day to 100mg/day, most of the time took 50mg/day. From what I've been told by docs, people under 40 shouldn't take it, and everyone over 40 should discuss it with their docs before taking it. DHEA blood levels can be helpful, and there are several books you can browse at the bookstore or library about how to interpret the blood levels, and decide on dosage. There are some serious side effects and possible ties to cancer; testicular cancer in men, ovarian cancer in women. I liked it, felt it gave me a bit more energy and improved on my feelings of being so sick. Now that I've been off it for several months I don't miss it. When I was very sick, if I missed a few days I crashed. Now that I'm just moderately sick I just don't think that I need it anymore, in view of the risks associated with taking it. Barb << For those of you who take DHEA, how much do you take (did you work up to this dose) and at what time of day? Does it affect sleep if taken too late? How soon did you feel any better? I have tried supplementing with thyroid but only felt really wired and anxious. I want to try DHEA and see if it will help my energy levels at all. Thanks! -Theresa >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 Dear Barb, Thank you for the information! I'll be 41 in October, so I guess that part is ok ; ) . I'll check out my library/bookstores. What I have is in 25mg tablets. Was there a particular time of day that you found best to take it? -Theresa >Theresa, >I took DHEA for about four years. I varied my dose from 25mg/day to >100mg/day, most of the time took 50mg/day. From what I've been told by docs, >people under 40 shouldn't take it, and everyone over 40 should discuss it >with their docs before taking it. DHEA blood levels can be helpful, and >there are several books you can browse at the bookstore or library about how >to interpret the blood levels, and decide on dosage. There are some serious >side effects and possible ties to cancer; testicular cancer in men, ovarian >cancer in women. > I liked it, felt it gave me a bit more energy and improved on my feelings of >being so sick. Now that I've been off it for several months I don't miss it. > When I was very sick, if I missed a few days I crashed. Now that I'm just >moderately sick I just don't think that I need it anymore, in view of the >risks associated with taking it. > >Barb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2000 Report Share Posted July 30, 2000 Hi Theresa - I take 10mg of DHEA in the morning. I started at 4mg, then built up. At first I had some acne from the increased hormone when I went to 8 mg so backed off for awhile, then increased slowly with no problems. I do notice an increase in energy and believe I could take more, but I'm trying some other energy supplements like NADH and Ginseng which are also working well for me so I'm staying at this level for now. Best, Jennie --- Theresa Romani <tromani@...> wrote: > For those of you who take DHEA, how much do you > take (did you work up to > this dose) and at what time of day? Does it affect > sleep if taken too late? > How soon did you feel any better? I have tried > supplementing with thyroid > but only felt really wired and anxious. I want to > try DHEA and see if it > will help my energy levels at all. > > Thanks! > -Theresa > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2001 Report Share Posted May 27, 2001 http://www.ceri.com/dhea.htm This article commments on a variety of effects that DHEA has had on experimental animals. At one point, the article comments on DHEA's relationship with appetite, stating: " DHEA and Appetite In different experiments, DHEA supplementation has resulted in increased, decreased and unchanged food consumption. Dr. Schwartz found that it is the level of dietary fat influences food consumption. DHEA-treated rats on a high-fat diet ate less food than control rats while those on a low-fat diet ate more. Since DHEA inhibits G6PDH activity and suppresses the body's ability to synthesize fat from carbohydrate, dietary sources of fat become more important. This can affect changes in appetite. But despite possible increases in food intake, DHEA-treated animals consistently weighed less than control animals. In other words, increases in appetite, when indulged, did not negate the anti-obesity property of DHEA. " As stated in the article, use DHEA supplements causes glucose utilization to decrease and force fat consumption to increase. While DHEA is known to help reduce weight, I feel that supplementing DHEA into one's diet would increase LDL and cholesterol intake, which can increase the chance for heart problems. This is just an opinion, any comments or references supporting or negating this inference? ph Munaretto Cornell University Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 Hi, n, >then my result was for DHEA-S (not DHEA) = 2.1 vs range of 1.8-15. So my >DHEA-S was low. Free DHEA is more variable, so less meaningful, than DHEA-S. DHEA-S is the number that should be used for determining whether you are low in DHEA. Jerry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 Does anyone know what time of day and frequency one should supplement with either dhea or keto-7. I'm confused whether to take this stuff at night or in the morning, empty stomach or full. Tell me, when does dhea naturally peak in the body, and does it correlate at all with when gh is released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 Dhea, like T, is highest in the morning, though not so dramatic as cortisol is normally. Therefore, taking DHEA first thing in the AM, and perhaps again before sleep, is the most common recommendation. We at RxforWellness prefer low dose sublingual and transdermal applications where possible. Also, we often recommend DHEA be taken along w/ pregnenalone in a 3 or 4 to 1 ratio, respectively, based on the research if Dr Bill Timmons. Without saliva testing, DHEA supplementation in women not yet post menopausal should likely stick to the 7 Keto form. DHEA supplementation is NOT an effective way to raise T in men, in my experience, but it is useful in androgen deficiency syndromes in post menopausal females. Finally, high cortisol levelsd are generally more problematic and common than low DHEA levels as such. DHEA is often relativelty low, as a ten to one ratio of AM DHEA to cortisol is considered ideal. See my post, " Dhea: Fad or Folly " to learn more http://www.rxforwellness.com/articlearchives/rxstresswellness_0.shtml Vitally yours, Dr. H. Maher, A.B.A.A.H.P. Editor, " Longevity News " subscribe@... http://www.RxforWellness.com " Your FREE Anti-Aging Home Study Course On-Line! " Re: dhea > Does anyone know what time of day and frequency one should > supplement with either dhea or keto-7. I'm confused whether to take this > stuff at night or in the morning, empty stomach or full. Tell me, when > does dhea naturally peak in the body, and does it correlate at all with > when gh is released? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Good eve one and all. I have been subscribed to this list for sometime, but this is the first time I have posted. I have MS, FM, arthritis, bursitis, and the list goes on As with most, the symptoms have been around for about 15 yrs or so, but only started getting some diagnoses the last 3 years and am on the " typical " type meds. Now, to my question. Would there be anyone from Canada on this list who could tell me where i could get DHEA? I have several US friends who are taking it for FM and CFS and find it helps them considerably. I talked with my doc and she said if I can find a Canadian source, she will do whatever is required, Rx or whatever, so that I can give it a try. When I contacted London Drugs, I was advised they used to carry it, but the pharmasist said to try a health food store instead. So tried that too but no luck. May you all find peace this night. Vampyra -------------------------------------- I have seen the truth and it makes absolutely no sense! -------------------------------------- Web: http://vampyra.com Web: http://spiritbytes.com Web: http://bytesbydesign.net Coming Soon: WolfenDreams.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 All health food stores in these parts sell it, COSTCO also sells it, I can get it at just about any grocery store. erik Re: DHEA > Good eve one and all. I have been subscribed to this list for sometime, but this is > the first time I have posted. I have MS, FM, arthritis, bursitis, and the list goes > on As with most, the symptoms have been around for about 15 yrs or so, but only > started getting some diagnoses the last 3 years and am on the " typical " type meds. > > Now, to my question. Would there be anyone from Canada on this list who could tell me > where i could get DHEA? I have several US friends who are taking it for FM and CFS > and find it helps them considerably. I talked with my doc and she said if I can find > a Canadian source, she will do whatever is required, Rx or whatever, so that I can > give it a try. When I contacted London Drugs, I was advised they used to carry it, > but the pharmasist said to try a health food store instead. So tried that too but no > luck. > > May you all find peace this night. > Vampyra > -------------------------------------- > I have seen the truth and it makes absolutely no sense! > -------------------------------------- > Web: http://vampyra.com > Web: http://spiritbytes.com > Web: http://bytesbydesign.net > Coming Soon: WolfenDreams.com > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 on 8/28/01 8:03 pm, vampyra at vampyra@... wrote: > Now, to my question. Would there be anyone from Canada on this list who could > tell me where i could get DHEA? I have several US friends who are taking it > for FM and CFS and find it helps them considerably. I talked with my doc and > she said if I can find a Canadian source, she will do whatever is required, Rx > or whatever, so that I can give it a try. When I contacted London Drugs, I was > advised they used to carry it, but the pharmasist said to try a health food > store instead. So tried that too but no luck. I'm in Canada--near toronto--and I can tell you pretty certainly that DHEA is a controlled substance in Canada and so it is is illegal to sell it here and illegal to import from other countries. unbelieveable, huh? They consider it a form of anabolic-androgenic steroid, at Health Canada. However that said, I know of at least one pharmacist in Toronto who carries DHEA. Myself, I order it in powder from Beyond-a-century.com and have them ship it to an American contact who then forwards it to me after putting a different label on the bottle. You can get like 25 grams for around 20 USD, if I recall correctly. -- Hud (8 >{D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 I confirm from discussions with suppliers that DHEA is a controlled substance in Canada as it is in Australia where I live. However it might pay to investigate 7-Keto DHEA which in Australia is NOT a controlled substance and which I am allowed to import. The same may apply in Canada. n At 13:26 29/08/01, you wrote: >on 8/28/01 8:03 pm, vampyra at vampyra@... wrote: > > > Now, to my question. Would there be anyone from Canada on this list who > could > > tell me where i could get DHEA? I have several US friends who are > taking it > > for FM and CFS and find it helps them considerably. I talked with my > doc and > > she said if I can find a Canadian source, she will do whatever is > required, Rx > > or whatever, so that I can give it a try. When I contacted London > Drugs, I was > > advised they used to carry it, but the pharmasist said to try a health food > > store instead. So tried that too but no luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 Hi! 7-Keto is advised to be better form of DHEA for woman.Just keep in mind. Thanks. Nil DHEA | Donna | Keats Publishing has a good cheap book on DHEA and several methods of | increasing it in the body..... plus the importance of testing to see where | your level of DHEA is currently. | Because of cost alone, I've been taking 50 mg of DHEA about 5 times a | week and am seeing some nice results. Will increase to 75 mg tomorrow.... | 50mg am and 25 mg before 4pm. | I also tried the Pro-Gest 3% cream and did not see as much effect, but | I may have not been using enough since it is $30.00 a tube. | the book has two other methods of increasing DHEA also..... | mjh | | | | In a message dated 8/18/02 8:21:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, | writes: | | | > Nil, | > How much pregnenolone do you take? I just bought some, but don't really know | > where to start. I take 10 mg DHEA/day, but don't really think it is doing | > anything. It is not the 7-keto DHEA, perhaps that is why. | > Donna in NC | > | | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 DHEA Hi-- (I'm a new person in here) You can get the progesterone creams for a lot less at Vitacost.com. That's where I get all my Atkins drinks that are helping me stay high protein. Got severe hypoglycemia. Soon, it will be my turn for the Progest too, ha ha! June I also tried the Pro-Gest 3% cream and did not see as much effect, but I may have not been using enough since it is $30.00 a tube. the book has two other methods of increasing DHEA also..... mjh In a message dated 8/18/02 8:21:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 What is the safest max dosage for DHEA? 75 mg sounds little too high for me.Are you sure it is safe? Nil DHEA | Donna | Keats Publishing has a good cheap book on DHEA and several methods of | increasing it in the body..... plus the importance of testing to see where | your level of DHEA is currently. | Because of cost alone, I've been taking 50 mg of DHEA about 5 times a | week and am seeing some nice results. Will increase to 75 mg tomorrow.... | 50mg am and 25 mg before 4pm. | I also tried the Pro-Gest 3% cream and did not see as much effect, but | I may have not been using enough since it is $30.00 a tube. | the book has two other methods of increasing DHEA also..... | mjh | | | | In a message dated 8/18/02 8:21:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, | writes: | | | > Nil, | > How much pregnenolone do you take? I just bought some, but don't really know | > where to start. I take 10 mg DHEA/day, but don't really think it is doing | > anything. It is not the 7-keto DHEA, perhaps that is why. | > Donna in NC | > | | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 Thanks mj, I'll look into it. I was taking 50 mg when I first crashed, and it helped a lot, I think. Then I switched doctors, and he bumped me from 50 to 5 mg, then up to 10 mg after my GSDL saliva test showed it below normal. I also see Dr. Cheney, who for some reason which I don't understand or remember, except something about a potential negative feedback loop, doesn't think too much of it. He does say that my 10 mg won't hurt, so maybe my doc who bumped me down has the same reasoning as Dr. Cheney. Who knows. I have just started Ray Peat's Pro-Gest Complex, which is a 10% solution in Vitamin E, and is very economical. I take 3 drops/day at the moment, which is more or less equal to a physiologic dose, sublingual. My GYN ok'd it, as he would have put me on a compounded natural progesterone pill anyway in attempts to reduce a painful fibroid. My testosterone levels (all of these tests are now two years old) were/are at the bottom end of normal, so I think I might benefit from pregnenolone, if my body can make the proper conversions. Donna in NC DHEA > Donna > Keats Publishing has a good cheap book on DHEA and several methods of increasing it in the body..... plus the importance of testing to see where your level of DHEA is currently. > Because of cost alone, I've been taking 50 mg of DHEA about 5 times a week and am seeing some nice results. Will increase to 75 mg tomorrow.... 50mg am and 25 mg before 4pm. > I also tried the Pro-Gest 3% cream and did not see as much effect, but I may have not been using enough since it is $30.00 a tube. > the book has two other methods of increasing DHEA also..... > mjh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2002 Report Share Posted August 19, 2002 Nil There is a scale in the booklet, one for men and another for women, of optimal levels of DHEA, and please remember that there is more than one way to increase DHEA in our bodies. The only way to tell where your DHEA level stands is to have a blood test now and then every few months as you work to increase DHEA no matter by what route. Optimal levels via DHEA blood test: men --- 750 to 1250 women -- 550 to 980 Mine tested at 140. Hope this helps mjh In a message dated 8/19/02 10:20:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: > > Sorry!This dosage still sounds too much for me.It might be fine for men but > for woman.Don't know!I would make more research on this.Sorry for > insisting..Thanks.. Nil > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 I've tried DHEA bec I too have very low DHEAS in blood. Supplemental DHEA turns me into an aggressive, edgy, wired person, so it is not for me. Bear in mind that supplemental DHEA is a very blunt weapon and it is not clear what the result of supplementing any of these hormones is likely to be, since the pathways are complex and there are many feedback paths and alternative paths. Somewhere I saw an excellent diagram on the web showing some of the hormonal pathways; it was very interesting reading. I'll post the address if I can find it. How is your testosterone level? Mine are very high which doesn't make a lot of sense with low DHEA when you look at the above pathways. But maybe if your testosterone is not high then DHEA supp might work for you??? n At 08:36 06/08/03, you wrote: >Hello, >Has anybody had success with DHEA? Dr. Baulieu from France has done >long-term studies on its use >and has this web site: >http://biorganic.ifrance.com/biorganic/dhea-eng.htm > >My DHEA levels are always very low. I noticed that the Santa >Homeopathic Pharmacy has a >sublingual product with DHEA & Pregnenolone. I have also heard that timed >release form is available from >some companies. > Du Pre >Website: http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/isaiah40soaringeagle/index.html > " By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes n Canberra, Australia http://members.austarmetro.com.au/~julian/photo-an/photo-an.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 My dhea has been so low for a very long time but even miniscule amts per oral make me so wired I can't tolerate it. I just learned that my testosterone was low and when I saw the new doc he ordered testosterone cream and also dhea cream. When I called the compounding pharmacy they said that folks who get wired on dhea in pill/capsule form seem to get the very same reaction from the skin cream form! Gingerly, I will try the testosterone cream as I fear getting a mustache or acne!!!! If the dhea cream is cheap enuf I'll also order it and try a very tiny tad on my arm but I'm somewhat pessimistic given what the compounding pharmacy said. Judith Wisdom The doc said I should ask my endo to test aldosterone and renin but I'm not sure if I'll have time for an appt this century. > >Hello, > >Has anybody had success with DHEA? Dr. Baulieu from France has done > >long-term studies on its use > >and has this web site: > >http://biorganic.ifrance.com/biorganic/dhea-eng.htm > > > >My DHEA levels are always very low. I noticed that the Santa > >Homeopathic Pharmacy has a > >sublingual product with DHEA & Pregnenolone. I have also heard that timed > >release form is available from > >some companies. > > Du Pre > >Website: http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/isaiah40soaringeagle/index.html > > " By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes > > > n > Canberra, Australia > http://members.austarmetro.com.au/~julian/photo-an/photo-an.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 n, I had a similar experience. DHEA can function as a GABA antagonist. Maybe this is why it made you wired? Zippy =========================================================== > I've tried DHEA bec I too have very low DHEAS in blood. Supplemental DHEA > turns me into an aggressive, edgy, wired person, so it is not for me. Bear > in mind that supplemental DHEA is a very blunt weapon and it is not clear > what the result of supplementing any of these hormones is likely to be, > since the pathways are complex and there are many feedback paths and > alternative paths. Somewhere I saw an excellent diagram on the web showing > some of the hormonal pathways; it was very interesting reading. I'll post > the address if I can find it. > > How is your testosterone level? Mine are very high which doesn't make a > lot of sense with low DHEA when you look at the above pathways. But maybe > if your testosterone is not high then DHEA supp might work for you??? > > n > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2003 Report Share Posted August 8, 2003 I dunno, I assumed it was pushing my testosterone levels even higher, but you could well be right. Since I don't have access to any doctor who is even slightly interested in this aspect, it probably is not much use me spending time on it. But it is interesting that you, me and a number of other people feel this very strongly, and yet quite a few people seem to have no probs whatsover. You would think that finding out why would be a useful and informative study. Cheers. n >n, > >I had a similar experience. DHEA can function as a GABA antagonist. >Maybe this is why it made you wired? > >Zippy n Canberra, Australia http://members.austarmetro.com.au/~julian/photo-an/photo-an.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 I did DHEA for a long time. It was absolutely the greatest. I had tons more energy. Felt lean and strong. But something took a terrible turn for the worst. It makes no since, but it got so that any bed I sleep in felt hard as cement. I had to quite taking the DHEA, and sleep on an air mattrice for about 3 months. One day I hope to try it again, but I'll go super slow maybe 2 1/2 mgs every 4 days to start. Ron (but I wasn't monitoring it. If yours is low and you keep it at normal, maybe it will be fine. I don't know if my poor immune system was part of the trouble, so I will probably wait until its in better shape before I try it again.) DHEA In recent bloodwork done by my new CFIDS doctor, my DHEA levels were low. I bought some DHEA to try, but then began reading up on it and became confused as to whether ot not it's a good idea. I read some DHEA horror stories on the web, and I'm also not certain why one would choose DHEA (which raises testosterone but can also raise estrogen) instead of low-dose oral testosterone. Any thoughts? Peggy This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Peggomatic@... wrote: > In recent bloodwork done by my new CFIDS doctor, my DHEA levels were > low. I > bought some DHEA to try, but then began reading up on it and became > confused > as to whether ot not it's a good idea. I read some DHEA horror > stories on the > web, and I'm also not certain why one would choose DHEA (which raises > testosterone but can also raise estrogen) instead of low-dose oral > testosterone. Any > thoughts? The horror stories I've read re DHEA all had to do with the effect of raising sex hormones too high. For this reason, I switched to the 7-Keto form of DHEA. It does the other stuff (such as fighting inflammation) that DHEA does without affecting the sex hormones as much. I tried taking low-dose oral testosterone a few years back, when I was entering menopause, but found out that I didn't like the side effects* even at low doses. However, Pregnenolone did a bang-up job of raising my testosterone level and balancing out some of the other hormones, without any side effects (for me - YMMV, of course!). (*testosterone side effects in women: oily face, acne, moustache (darker, heavier), and EXTREME irritability with some aggressiveness, not a pleasant or familiar state of mind!) -- el (andreafrankel at sbcglobal dot net) " wake now! Discover that YOU are the song that the morning brings... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 hi i took prescriptoin dhea years ago think about 5 units and it messed up my menstral cycle badly so topped within a wek of starting it... ... then a few years later an altnerative person put me on sublingual dhea which i tolearted and then when i chagned again to another alternative person they put me on a dhea cream which i used up to 50 units daily for a long time without any promblems( combination dhea sublingual and dhea cream: i rubbed into my skin and it gets absorbed) ..i stopped just as i had been on it for a long time and developed fiborids while on it .... more recently i started dhea cream , more transdermal like aliva @ 15 mg in the am when i wake up then middle of the day/early afternoon take it again with my other homrones. as my dhea sulfate levels are low in the 200s while most alternative people feel it should be in the 300s and now have a low testerone level also ...( dont think their is any hormone i havent been low in with this dd )..btw ; my ob /gyn doesnt like cream products as they feel you dont get as accurate amounts or standardiztion while my alternative person has claimed good resluts on the cream. ...i just restarted hrt but very low dose with my history of fibroidds as it seems to have been helping my bones which is the opposite of the stuff published in the past year or so about hrt ..also still have very high hdl levels though ldl levels higer now from using shredded coconut, butter 1x day and some chocolate here and there ...so cutting all back and waiting to see if my ldl levels go down or did chagning suppliment compnays mean i am using an inferior products now to save $$$? goodluck peggy. > [Original Message] > From: Ron <salesman11@...> > < > > Date: 10/21/2004 10:15:54 AM > Subject: RE: DHEA > > > I did DHEA for a long time. > > It was absolutely the greatest. I had tons more energy. Felt lean and > strong. > > But something took a terrible turn for the worst. > It makes no since, but it got so that any bed I sleep in felt hard as > cement. > I had to quite taking the DHEA, and sleep on an air mattrice for about 3 > months. > > One day I hope to try it again, but I'll go super slow maybe 2 1/2 mgs every > 4 days to start. > Ron > > (but I wasn't monitoring it. If yours is low and you keep it at normal, > maybe it will be fine. > I don't know if my poor immune system was part of the trouble, so I will > probably wait until its in better shape before I try it again.) > > DHEA > > > In recent bloodwork done by my new CFIDS doctor, my DHEA levels were low. I > > bought some DHEA to try, but then began reading up on it and became confused > > as to whether ot not it's a good idea. I read some DHEA horror stories on > the > web, and I'm also not certain why one would choose DHEA (which raises > testosterone but can also raise estrogen) instead of low-dose oral > testosterone. Any > thoughts? > > Peggy > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 rudedog89@... wrote: > I have started supplementing > my DHEA. My immunologist checked me and found out that my DHEA production > was nil. I'm not sure what the normal numbers are for my age and sex but > I do know zero is not consistent with life for long. Our DHEA is a > hormone that has a great deal to do with the energy production in our > cells...at least this is what I got from his explanation. The production > of this hormone declines as we get past our prime years as potential > child producers (men included). So I reluctantly started taking - (yet > another pill)! To my surprise, it has seemed to help. I don't seem to be > as knocked down by the fatigue, although I still have my really bad days. > For women, 25 mg is the suggested dosage and men should take 50 mg. I'd > love to hear if anyone else has tried or benefitted from this. Hi, Teena! I have been using DHEA for a couple of years now. There is a precaution: if you have or have had any hormone-sensitive cancers or precancerous lesions, you should not be taking the regular form of DHEA, which serves as a precursor to all of the sex hormones. I couldn't take more than 10 mg/day of DHEA without starting to get a mustache and acne (at 51, I need acne like a hole in the head :@). Another supplement to consider if you are low in sex hormones but don't want to do HRT is Pregnenolone, the " mother hormone " . I switched to the " 7-Keto " form of DHEA about 8 months ago (in addition to Pregnenolone), and found I tolerated it much better (@ 25 mg/day) and still get the energy boost from it. Like any other energy booster, I have to be careful not to overexert myself just because I'm feeling incrementally better! (I have a long history of crash-n-burn from overdoing things.) Just remember Dr. Collinge's " 50% rule " : take stock of how you are feeling, decide what you can reasonably hope to accomplish today, do 50% of that, and stop. Rest the remainder of the day. This simple (but hard to do!) technique has helped me avoid crashes more than any treatment, and I've tried a good many of them. Hope this helps! -- el (andreafrankel at sbcglobal dot net) " wake now! Discover that YOU are the song that the morning brings... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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