Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Jacki, It was great seeing you again too. I am glad to hear Siobhan will be going into another series of casts. Sorry that the brace is not working out well. Good luck with Siobhans surgery, her and your family will be in our thoughts and prayers. I know I have fought to get Tyler back in a cast but you know how it is, now I am anxious since it has been awhile since he has had to wear one. And he will be having it put on once again in the middle of summer. Oh Well, we are so lucky to be getting a cast at all. Hopefully this will be his last series of casts. He really does look wonderful and we are so blessed. So hopefully this next series will completely straighten him. , Thanks for the well wishes. Hope your little angel is doing well. 14 weeks in a cast doesn't seem that long to me. But Tyler has had it changed at all different lengths. I didn't like it when he had it changed in eight weeks, it just didn't seem like he had a lot of time to grow in it. Mehta had said to leave Tyler in the next cast three to four months. , We will be getting casted on Wed. the 13th so I am sure we will see each other. It will be great to see you again. Take Care Everyone, Tawney jabostock <jabostock@...> wrote: Hi TawneyIt was great to meet up again! Siobhan is going into another seriesof casts in August, as the brace is not really supporting her spine the way the casts do.Great news for Tyler though! All your hard work is really going topay off!Hope to see you all again soon.... (And say Hi to Tony from me!!!)Love Jacki> Hi Everyone,> Like always it has been forever since I posted. So nice to see all the > new people on the group. It was great seeing everyone in Utah. Hope > everyone is doing well. Tyler is going back in a cast July 13th. > Hopefully this will be his last series of casts. I was wondering if > anyone is going to be in Utah at the same time? thanks so much > for the card. I need to take a couple hours and catch up on all the > posts. Take Care Tawney Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Hi Robyn, Wow, you're off to a running start and you have the right attitude. Check out the club photo section for some pictures of major transformations. Quite a few people here have lost 70-100 pounds. When you posted, I immediately thought of Kai who has six kids and went from something like 210 to 135 pounds. She's in the " Now THAT'S Inspiration " folder. And of course you can't miss " Mina's Transformation Pics. " My jaw literally hit the floor when she posted those. There are several other women here who have already lost major weight or are in the process. One blog that I love is Meg's " I am that girl now. " http://iamthatgirlnow.blogspot.com/ I believe she started with Weight Watchers and is now doing BFL. I can't for the life of me remember if Meg is a member here or if I found her some other way, but she's dropped a lot of weight and changed her whole life. She posts the most thought-provoking messages about motivation and mindset and the inner turmoil associated with weight loss, stuff that stays with me for days after I read it. It's possible to accomplish some truly amazing things if you're determined and you have support. I'm glad you joined us! Keep us posted and let us know if you have any questions. :-) On 6/29/05, Robyn <mrsmac6265@...> wrote: > I am new here and to the challenge. I am 39, I turn 40 come October. > I weighed in at the begining at 203. I am at 196. 1 week into the > challenge. I am 5'3 " . I have had 5 children myself but have am the > mother of 7. I have two grandbabies. I am serious about this and I am > determined. I hope to find instruction, motivational support and > inspiration from this group. I took before pictures..BLKKK. SO > anyway....I jumped on the wagon, here to stay, I am planning for my > first two challenges. I know where I want to be in my BMI and I have a > total of 70 lbs I am going to remove. Anyone here imbarked on a > challenge such as mine? Would love to here your story. > Removing it, > Robyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Hi ie. I'll give you some idea of what to expect from treatment. I can only speak for myself. Before treatment, the clinic wouldn't go into great detail about symptoms. I assumed 20% couldn't hack and quit, and 20% felt little or nothing. Then the day of my first shot they told me that no one feels absolutely nothing. For me day one was the worst. First few hours were ok, then flu symptoms set in for one awful night. But then things got much better to where now shot night is nothing at all. Interferon doesn't bother me, it's the Ribavarin that is starting to bother me after two months of treatment. Hard to sleep, less able to enjoy food, constantly having to drink water, a feeling of embalming fluid running through my veins, etc. One thing that helps is meeting friends. It takes my mind off the treatment. It is harder to enjoy things in general, but for some reason meeting people helps more than just enjoying regular hobbies. Another thing that seems true for me is that being a slender person, and possibly taking a Riba dose that's too high for my weight, I feel it helps to make myself exercise and sweat to help eliminate the Riba. Since my liver is doing better (I cleared the virus at week 4, genotype 1b), I'm able to get more use out of my muscles, though the Riba makes me fatigued and anemic. Also, be prepared to let yourself just bide away the time, without challenging yourself to do anything major. It's probably a good time to hybernate as much as possible. Hope this helps. Pete 'We get by with a little help from our friends.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Peggy, welcome back. So good to see your smiling face again. Glad you had such a terrific trip. You wrote: My biggest problem is the spasms. I cannot see a pattern at all. I don't have spasms as bad or often as you but I have never been able to find a pattern either. I can't associate it with any food or drink, nor to stress as some do. I thought I was the only one. Hugs Maggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 On 9/8/2005 at 3:43:37 P.M. Central Standard Time you wrote: Whoops, Maggie meant Kathie, not Peggy I sure did . Thanks Peggy for correcting the old brain. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Whoops, Maggie meant Kathie, not Peggy. Welcome home Kathie -- I bet the cruise was beautiful. I wondered where you had wandered off to. Peggy > > > My biggest problem is the spasms. I > cannot see a pattern at all. > > I don't have spasms as bad or often as you but I have never > been able to find a pattern either. I can't associate it with any > food or drink, nor to stress as some do. I thought I was the > only one. > > Hugs > Maggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Kathie, It's great to hear about your cruise, Kathie. I'm so glad your A was not a huge issue for you on your trip. It's so hard when you feel apart from most other people in any way. Even though I never suffered from achalasia, I understand almost as well, how not being able to eat as other people feels especially in a social situation. I hope things continue to go well for you, and I hope the spasms occur with less frequency or at least as well as you can deal with. Jan from Northern KY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 > My biggest problem is the spasms. I > cannot see a pattern at all. I I want to " pipe in " here about post-surgical spasms as well, knowing the risk that Pepto Debbie will soon be splashing pepto pink typeface before our eyes! My spasms started at the beginning of my swallowing symptoms, quite intensely and then dissipated to almost none by the time I had my surgery -- just an occasional twinge or spasm at odd moments. My surgeon never mentioned spasms, but I knew I might have them again after surgery because of the great information on this site. Had I not known about the possibility and the usual course, I would have been very frightened and discouraged in the early recovery phase. During the first three days, spasms were frequent, intense and intractable. I would feel nauseous, faint and sweaty. By the end of the second week, they were more intermittent and less overwhelming and seemed to respond to sucking on popsicles and heating pads. By the end of the third week, they were nearly gone. Every once in a while, I will get a glimmer of a spasm coming on, but now, about 4 1/2 weeks out, they seem to be about finished. Another thing I noticed -- if I was having an emotional reaction, even (and especially) when I wasn't too aware I was having the reaction, a spasm would tend to come on. If I acknowledge the feeling and alter my behavior to deal with it, the spasm will abate faster. Now that I am " listening to my spasms " they seem to be less intense and less frequent. I am not saying they are in my head, mind you, just that I can use the information of the spasm as kind fo a guidance system. That's my two cents. Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 But young at heart! > > > Whoops, Maggie meant Kathie, not Peggy > > I sure did . Thanks Peggy for correcting the old brain. > > M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Hi Kathie, Wow, long time no post! J Glad to see you back! I can’t believe its already been 6 months for your surgery. That is awesome. I just have one comment about your email – you said that you didn’t have to call attention to yourself while eating, etc. You shouldn’t feel silly explaining yourself to anyone about why you are eating so little. I simply use the “I have a swallowing problem” and people generally don’t need to know any more. If they do ask, I happily explain a bit about whats up. You don’t need to “hide” anything! J (You never know what they’re really thinking about you going to the bathroom, etc J ) I am so thrilled to hear that your swallowing is going pretty good. Sorry to hear about your spasms, I sure hope they continue to lessen as the weeks/months go by. Generally they go down a little more by now, but each of us is different as you well know! Love ya lots, in BC From: achalasia [mailto:achalasia ] On Behalf Of zekenoahme Sent: September 8, 2005 9:12 AM achalasia Subject: Hello Everyone Just wanted to pipe in ... I can't believe it, but on September 16, it will be 6 months since my Myotomy and Toupet Wrap. Life is so much better, and I am very grateful for my surgeon, my family, and especially for my friends here in the group. Your support and help before my decision and kindness and assistance after, have been fabulous. Thank you. Mostly, the eating process is good. I still cut things VERY small and chew everything to a pulp. When I sit down to eat, I divide the dish into 3rds and eat 1 third and pack the rest to come home. I was always a fast eater, now it takes me as long to eat the third as everyone else to eat their meal. I do find, when I hurry or take too big of a bite, there is stickage! That forces me to regurge and think about slowing down! My biggest problem is the spasms. I cannot see a pattern at all. I can go a week or the longest is 10 days then suddenly, the severe pain in my chest, radiating thru my body and up both shoulder blades and both jaws! They are VERY intense. They are lessening in the time the go on ... used to last almost 2 hours, now about an hour. Every once in a while .. 2 times a day. I choose not to take any medicines as a preventative because they are so unpredictable. Personally I would not have wanted to take medicines every day during the week or 10 days they do not appear. I realize that is a personal choice. I am learning to live with them, and I do believe they are occuring somewhat less than before. I just came off a beautiful Alaska Cruise. This was my first time that the food on the cruise was NOT the primary attraction. Thru the entire week, I only had to excuse myself 4 times from the table to regurge, and 2 spasms. I thought that was pretty good. Believe it or not, this was a work related cruise where I had to share a stateroom with someone I never met. I was so proud of myself, I told absolutely NO ONE about my problem. The first 2 days, people would ask why I was eating so little ... I said I had ice cream earlier, or something like that ... after 2 days they quit asking. I ALMOST felt normal and did not call too much attention to myself. It was great!!! Enough about me. I have been catching up on the posts ... lots of people going in for tests and surgery ... hope everyone is doing great! I wish you all well and will keep you in my prayers. Again, we have a GREAT A family here. Thank you. Kathie in Pittsburgh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Hello Rob and ... Usually I do not hesitate to explain the problem to people, but this was a totally different situation. I was with a group of 20 strangers that I will never see again. I guess I just wanted to be NORMAL with this people. Although I am VERY friendly and open, I just did not want to be the topic of discussion with these ladies. Perhaps it was silly, but I really wanted a week of not talking about it! , you are quite lucky if people let it drop after such a short explanation. I find people either know someone with Acid Reflux that they are sure they are diagnosing for me, offer many remedies that they just know will help, or want to go into great detail over dinner and then, I feel, treat me differently. Maybe it is all in my mind, but I needed to prove to myself that I could take a week off. I am not ashamed of the disease, I just hate regurging to be discussed with strangers over dinner ... (and that is mostly where I sat and talked with these people ... you could not do it during the seminars or meetings). I know this is with me for the rest of my life. I just hate people feeling sorry for me. I am the caretaker ... I am not suppossed to have people taking care of me. Life could be so much worse (I could live in Mississippi or Louisiana), so the week off was refreshing. Thanks for the input. Kathie in Pittsburgh > > Hi Kathie, you said that you didn't have to call attention to yourself while eating, etc. You shouldn't feel silly explaining yourself to anyone about why you are eating so little. I simply use the " I have a swallowing problem " and people generally don't need to know any more. If they do ask, I happily explain a bit about whats up. You don't need to " hide " anything! > > I agree. When I was at my worst - everyone new about my problem - > there is no need to be embarrassed because its not anything that you can avoid. I still tell people today what happened to me. > _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Hi Kathie, I’m totally glad to hear that you’re not ashamed or other about having achalasia! You are one of the “lucky” ones that God gave this to! J He knew you could handle it!! I understand that you wanted a week “off” of A. That’s awesome. I hope you get more weeks like that, and the more on a cruise ship, the better!!! Love and Hugs, From: achalasia [mailto:achalasia ] On Behalf Of zekenoahme Sent: September 9, 2005 1:56 PM achalasia Subject: Re: Hello Everyone Hello Rob and ... Usually I do not hesitate to explain the problem to people, but this was a totally different situation. I was with a group of 20 strangers that I will never see again. I guess I just wanted to be NORMAL with this people. Although I am VERY friendly and open, I just did not want to be the topic of discussion with these ladies. Perhaps it was silly, but I really wanted a week of not talking about it! , you are quite lucky if people let it drop after such a short explanation. I find people either know someone with Acid Reflux that they are sure they are diagnosing for me, offer many remedies that they just know will help, or want to go into great detail over dinner and then, I feel, treat me differently. Maybe it is all in my mind, but I needed to prove to myself that I could take a week off. I am not ashamed of the disease, I just hate regurging to be discussed with strangers over dinner ... (and that is mostly where I sat and talked with these people ... you could not do it during the seminars or meetings). I know this is with me for the rest of my life. I just hate people feeling sorry for me. I am the caretaker ... I am not suppossed to have people taking care of me. Life could be so much worse (I could live in Mississippi or Louisiana), so the week off was refreshing. Thanks for the input. Kathie in Pittsburgh > > Hi Kathie, you said that you didn't have to call attention to yourself while eating, etc. You shouldn't feel silly explaining yourself to anyone about why you are eating so little. I simply use the " I have a swallowing problem " and people generally don't need to know any more. If they do ask, I happily explain a bit about whats up. You don't need to " hide " anything! > > I agree. When I was at my worst - everyone new about my problem - > there is no need to be embarrassed because its not anything that you can avoid. I still tell people today what happened to me. > _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 Hi there! I do know exactly what you mean. I got really tired of that too, I found my inlaws were the worst...they really thought it was in my head, or something I had done. It seemed everyone had a cure, or thought it was just bad heartburn. I actually ended up not speaking to my best friend for a couple of years because she was so offended I would not try a certain type of expensive holistic healing thing. Take care, Janet. > > > Hi Kathie, > you said that you didn't have to call attention to yourself while > eating, etc. You shouldn't feel silly explaining yourself to anyone > about why you are eating so little. I simply use the " I have a > swallowing problem " and people generally don't need to know any > more. If they do ask, I happily explain a bit about whats up. You > don't need to " hide " anything! > > > > > I agree. When I was at my worst - everyone new about my problem - > > there is no need to be embarrassed because its not anything that > you can avoid. I still tell people today what happened to me. > > _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Kitty, Yes. I have experienced all my life what you just mentioned. We are disadvantaged but also ADVANTAGED in what we are. My problem is that I am swimming in a sea of intellectual mediocrity. My sister who is a veterinary surgeon is very educated but still not like me. I hate the blank stares, I hate the subject changes, I hate the arogance and just plain hate the mediocrity. My ex wife now calls me a "basket case", my parents and relatives whisper about me, some even talk slower to me like I've got the mind of a six year old. Unfortunately for me I have turned this into bitterness and because I am a man of substantial physical attributes, I find myself battling just to not rip their heads off. Shaun.catgrrl522 <catgrrl522@...> wrote: I haven't posted here in a while, I've been really busy. I hope you all are well. Some of you who remember me might remember I was self-diagnosed with AS. A couple of days ago I finally got my official diagnosis, and have been trying to think how I feel about it. Mostly I feel just the same as I always have, but also vindicated towards all the people in my life who've said I was "imagining things," I just needed to "make an effort," I was "too smart" to be acting that way!, I shouldn't be so "shy," I shouldn't "hide behind a book," I was just "stubborn," "acting out," "seeking attention," "spoiled," "manipulative," it's "all in your head" and there's "really nothing wrong with you!" Well, they were right on the last one. There is nothing "wrong" with me. I just have Asperger's Syndrome. There's a REASON I do all those things you don't understand.So, I am mostly feeling good right now. Anyone else have similar feelings after being diagnosed?Kitty__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hi Kitty, I am glad you feel vindicated. I had read an article about AS and thought to myself " Hey, that sounds like me. " So I brought it to my counslor and then " got honest " with her about many of the things I wasn't telling her. I was diagnosed and then I thought, " I KNEW it. " For me it now means that I can be who I was born to be WITHOUT GUILT because that was the way I was made. It also means that if somebody tells me I am being socially inept, etc., I now see it as a compliment because I am behaving true to my God-given nature. Also I can just point to the diagnosis and say " This describes me. Read it and you'll understand me better and how to relate to me too. And if you CAN'T underdstand, then get lost, because we'll never get along. " (Sorry. I'm feeling a bit caustic tonight.) Tom I haven't posted here in a while, I've been really busy. I hope you all are well. Some of you who remember me might remember I was self-diagnosed with AS. A couple of days ago I finally got my official diagnosis, and have been trying to think how I feel about it. Mostly I feel just the same as I always have, but also vindicated towards all the people in my life who've said I was " imagining things, " I just needed to " make an effort, " I was " too smart " to be acting that way!, I shouldn't be so " shy, " I shouldn't " hide behind a book, " I was just " stubborn, " " acting out, " " seeking attention, " " spoiled, " " manipulative, " it's " all in your head " and there's " really nothing wrong with you! " Well, they were right on the last one. There is nothing " wrong " with me. I just have Asperger's Syndrome. There's a REASON I do all those things you don't understand. So, I am mostly feeling good right now. Anyone else have similar feelings after being diagnosed? Kitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Shaun, You wrote: " I hate the subject changes. " I'm glad to hear it. It seems there are at least two of us that seem to see just about 95% of the population as having an extreme form of attention defecit disorder. And for those of you who have ADD, this was not meant as an insult. No offense was intended. The point is that some people seem to feel their is something going WRONG in a conversation if you stay on the same subject for more than 30 seconds, and the only way I can describe it is by using the ADD label. Again, soory. No offense was intended. Personally, I think the reason non-Aspies change subjects so much is because they change subjects just before their knowledge of the subject wears out so as not to seem stupid. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hi Kitty and welcome back. I have an appointment on Wednesday to find out if I have AS or not - at moment am dreading it though. No idea what to excpect - someone I've never met and place I haven't been to before :-( > I haven't posted here in a while, I've been really busy. I hope you all > are well. > > Some of you who remember me might remember I was self-diagnosed with > AS. A couple of days ago I finally got my official diagnosis, and have > been trying to think how I feel about it. Mostly I feel just the same > as I always have, but also vindicated towards all the people in my life > who've said I was " imagining things, " I just needed to " make an > effort, " I was " too smart " to be acting that way!, I shouldn't be > so " shy, " I shouldn't " hide behind a book, " I was > just " stubborn, " " acting out, " " seeking > attention, " " spoiled, " " manipulative, " it's " all in your head " and > there's " really nothing wrong with you! " Well, they were right on the > last one. There is nothing " wrong " with me. I just have Asperger's > Syndrome. There's a REASON I do all those things you don't understand. > > So, I am mostly feeling good right now. Anyone else have similar > feelings after being diagnosed? > > Kitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hi Kitty and welcome back. I have an appointment on Wednesday to find out if I have AS or not - at moment am dreading it though. No idea what to excpect - someone I've never met and place I haven't been to before :-( > I haven't posted here in a while, I've been really busy. I hope you all > are well. > > Some of you who remember me might remember I was self-diagnosed with > AS. A couple of days ago I finally got my official diagnosis, and have > been trying to think how I feel about it. Mostly I feel just the same > as I always have, but also vindicated towards all the people in my life > who've said I was " imagining things, " I just needed to " make an > effort, " I was " too smart " to be acting that way!, I shouldn't be > so " shy, " I shouldn't " hide behind a book, " I was > just " stubborn, " " acting out, " " seeking > attention, " " spoiled, " " manipulative, " it's " all in your head " and > there's " really nothing wrong with you! " Well, they were right on the > last one. There is nothing " wrong " with me. I just have Asperger's > Syndrome. There's a REASON I do all those things you don't understand. > > So, I am mostly feeling good right now. Anyone else have similar > feelings after being diagnosed? > > Kitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 " ...and the only way I can describe it is by using the ADD label. " What about soundbites? buzz words? I think it is like a Western Society thing - quick fixes - like 30 second ad's - instant gratification, otherwise they think it is not worth it - people needing constant stimulation, instead of just sitting and thinking - texts, messaging, mobile phones etc. Often in RL conversation I get the impression non-Aspies rarely want to go deep into things. They say thier piece and then I think they excpect some rote response - one of which I never get right - they seem totally unprepared for someone like me infront of them asking them questions :-) or wanting to delve further into the matter - they've usually moved on to what to cook for tea or the latest fashion - (sigh). As I've said many times before - I much prefer writing as a form of communication - I can take my time over a letter - now email :-) and the other person probably takes it in more than they would if the conversation was verbal. These boards are quite good for getting deeper into conversation too - a subject/conversation is started and many add their opinions/thoughts on the matter and things rapidly get quite deep and intense - it truely is great :-) Strangest thing is peoples re-actions to my brother and my conversations together - we can really debate with one another when we get going :-) but people observing our conversations seem to think we are argueing when we are not - we really enjoy a good heated debate and neither of us get upset and quite often agree with some of the others points, but not all of course :-) > > " I hate the subject changes. " > > I'm glad to hear it. It seems there are at least two of us that seem > to see just about 95% of the population as having an extreme form of > attention defecit disorder. > > And for those of you who have ADD, this was not meant as an insult. > No offense was intended. The point is that some people seem to feel > their is something going WRONG in a conversation if you stay on the > same subject for more than 30 seconds, and the only way I can > describe it is by using the ADD label. > > Again, soory. No offense was intended. > > Personally, I think the reason non-Aspies change subjects so much is > because they change subjects just before their knowledge of the > subject wears out so as not to seem stupid. > > Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 " ...and the only way I can describe it is by using the ADD label. " What about soundbites? buzz words? I think it is like a Western Society thing - quick fixes - like 30 second ad's - instant gratification, otherwise they think it is not worth it - people needing constant stimulation, instead of just sitting and thinking - texts, messaging, mobile phones etc. Often in RL conversation I get the impression non-Aspies rarely want to go deep into things. They say thier piece and then I think they excpect some rote response - one of which I never get right - they seem totally unprepared for someone like me infront of them asking them questions :-) or wanting to delve further into the matter - they've usually moved on to what to cook for tea or the latest fashion - (sigh). As I've said many times before - I much prefer writing as a form of communication - I can take my time over a letter - now email :-) and the other person probably takes it in more than they would if the conversation was verbal. These boards are quite good for getting deeper into conversation too - a subject/conversation is started and many add their opinions/thoughts on the matter and things rapidly get quite deep and intense - it truely is great :-) Strangest thing is peoples re-actions to my brother and my conversations together - we can really debate with one another when we get going :-) but people observing our conversations seem to think we are argueing when we are not - we really enjoy a good heated debate and neither of us get upset and quite often agree with some of the others points, but not all of course :-) > > " I hate the subject changes. " > > I'm glad to hear it. It seems there are at least two of us that seem > to see just about 95% of the population as having an extreme form of > attention defecit disorder. > > And for those of you who have ADD, this was not meant as an insult. > No offense was intended. The point is that some people seem to feel > their is something going WRONG in a conversation if you stay on the > same subject for more than 30 seconds, and the only way I can > describe it is by using the ADD label. > > Again, soory. No offense was intended. > > Personally, I think the reason non-Aspies change subjects so much is > because they change subjects just before their knowledge of the > subject wears out so as not to seem stupid. > > Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Shaun wrote:> My problem is that I am swimming in a sea of intellectual mediocrity. ROTFL! Sorry, I know that must be frustrating beyond words, but I just found that sentence so delightfully humorous. My sympathies. Inger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Shaun wrote:> My problem is that I am swimming in a sea of intellectual mediocrity. ROTFL! Sorry, I know that must be frustrating beyond words, but I just found that sentence so delightfully humorous. My sympathies. Inger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hey Kitty, welcome back! I can sure understand your feeling now! I too was doubted by just about everyone when I first voiced my suspicions of having some form of autism/AS. Reading your list of misinterpretations below all piled together like that, I'm really amazed at how judgemental people in general are - especially of things and persons they have no real understanding of. You are sure not the only Aspie who has been told similar things. :-( Glad you got your dx anyway. :-) Congratulations! Inger Hello everyone I haven't posted here in a while, I've been really busy. I hope you all are well. Some of you who remember me might remember I was self-diagnosed with AS. A couple of days ago I finally got my official diagnosis, and have been trying to think how I feel about it. Mostly I feel just the same as I always have, but also vindicated towards all the people in my life who've said I was " imagining things, " I just needed to " make an effort, " I was " too smart " to be acting that way!, I shouldn't be so " shy, " I shouldn't " hide behind a book, " I was just " stubborn, " " acting out, " " seeking attention, " " spoiled, " " manipulative, " it's " all in your head " and there's " really nothing wrong with you! " Well, they were right on the last one. There is nothing " wrong " with me. I just have Asperger's Syndrome. There's a REASON I do all those things you don't understand. So, I am mostly feeling good right now. Anyone else have similar feelings after being diagnosed? Kitty FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hey Kitty, welcome back! I can sure understand your feeling now! I too was doubted by just about everyone when I first voiced my suspicions of having some form of autism/AS. Reading your list of misinterpretations below all piled together like that, I'm really amazed at how judgemental people in general are - especially of things and persons they have no real understanding of. You are sure not the only Aspie who has been told similar things. :-( Glad you got your dx anyway. :-) Congratulations! Inger Hello everyone I haven't posted here in a while, I've been really busy. I hope you all are well. Some of you who remember me might remember I was self-diagnosed with AS. A couple of days ago I finally got my official diagnosis, and have been trying to think how I feel about it. Mostly I feel just the same as I always have, but also vindicated towards all the people in my life who've said I was " imagining things, " I just needed to " make an effort, " I was " too smart " to be acting that way!, I shouldn't be so " shy, " I shouldn't " hide behind a book, " I was just " stubborn, " " acting out, " " seeking attention, " " spoiled, " " manipulative, " it's " all in your head " and there's " really nothing wrong with you! " Well, they were right on the last one. There is nothing " wrong " with me. I just have Asperger's Syndrome. There's a REASON I do all those things you don't understand. So, I am mostly feeling good right now. Anyone else have similar feelings after being diagnosed? Kitty FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hello Catgrrl522. I'ts unbelievable how many people don't seem to care, especially teachers and one's own parents at times. Being called stupid, manipulative, selfish, seeking attention(I hated when they said that one in particular), and all those things. Believe me when I say I know exactly what it's like to be mislabeled, discarded as waste, rejected from all my peers, and spat upon because of social "Inadequacy". In reality, Aspies see deep down, exactly what goes on with another's body language and tone of voice. In reality Aspies are highly intuitive. In reality, Aspies are more advanced in many areas than the average Neuro-typical. I've, at times wondered what all those nasty teenagers and teachers would feel if I came back and told them in the most polite way possible that I was born different from them because of a social disorder, and more capable of forgiving them now that I don't blame myself for every little blunder I made. I would tell them all how I am freed from the confusion that made me hate myself. Even if I did that, it would be up to each one of those people to actually listen. I believe some of them would listen and some would not. That's not the point. The point is, I lead my own life after diagnosis. I am what I am. Accept it or get out of my space. One has to wonder though, what impact on society those bullies and the silent, enablers have nowadays. Wouldn't it be reasonable to say over the last 60 years, many have become psychologists, psychiatrists, Diagnosers/labelers? Wouldn't it be safe to say that these people are relatively the same in terms of not standing up for others and/or bullying their way up the corporate chain in many sectors.Isn't it safe to say that Us Aspies have accepted some "Official diagnosis" instead of going after the real causations? Words are no doubt powerful. Hurtful words that mostly emphasize weakness ( in my opinion) are given as parts to the whole of the diagnosis of an Aspie. Societal conditioning. That's exactly what it is. The world would be alot better of a place if there were no sexists, weak politicians, lobbyists, wars, terrorists, bullies, uncaring teachers, liars, goof-offs etc......... It's so common, the herd mentality. Even if people know about a bully, most of the time ( from my experience) no one will stand up for the one being bullied. They stay silent, unprovoking because they know if they try to get the bully to shut up, theyr'e likely to get attacked by the bully or other bullies. In this way, they are just like the bullies, uncaring and cruel, like watching someone kill another person and not doing something about it, just standing there emotionless as a grave. I've developed some skills to stop bullies from using their words as bullets. I look them square in the eye, raise my hand to indicate that she or he needs to shut up and take every advantage possible to indicate that I did not appreciate his or her attitude towards me and that they are worthless. Kill or be killed is the one and only way to get at bullies. I'm not saying kill them literally! I just mean bring their ego down to size, where it belongs. If that doesn't happen, sorry! I hate to break the news and be at risk of someone calling me "Anti-social/depraved" etc., but the only way to beat the enemy and not let harm come to one's self is by destroying the enemy's ego. This shouldn't be news to anybody. It's simply survival instinct. Let me make a distinction here. Survival Instinct is totally different from herd instinct. Herd instinct is likened unto tolerance of bad, evil things because keeping a clean-looking business is the best way to get customers. Herd instinct is simply conformity. Survival instinct is simply choosing words and body langauge as weapons against a misguided person's deceptive, fear-invoking. essentially evil, bullying. It works. Have you had experiences similar to what I had in the past? If so, what were they?, If you don't mind my asking. catgrrl522 <catgrrl522@...> wrote: I haven't posted here in a while, I've been really busy. I hope you all are well. Some of you who remember me might remember I was self-diagnosed with AS. A couple of days ago I finally got my official diagnosis, and have been trying to think how I feel about it. Mostly I feel just the same as I always have, but also vindicated towards all the people in my life who've said I was "imagining things," I just needed to "make an effort," I was "too smart" to be acting that way!, I shouldn't be so "shy," I shouldn't "hide behind a book," I was just "stubborn," "acting out," "seeking attention," "spoiled," "manipulative," it's "all in your head" and there's "really nothing wrong with you!" Well, they were right on the last one. There is nothing "wrong" with me. I just have Asperger's Syndrome. There's a REASON I do all those things you don't understand.So, I am mostly feeling good right now. Anyone else have similar feelings after being diagnosed?Kitty__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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