Re: Sit down before reading this - Dr. Skinner

February 23, 2012

This now seems to be beyond the realms of credence!On what range are they basing their complaint - do you know?It seems that with so many professionals differing on the right reference range to go by how can one doctor make a complaint. Would the GMC then have to investigate every single doctor who used a different range to another doctor? It would appear that the GMC far from being professional are very emotive with regard to complaints made against Dr Skinner and very hasty in sending out letters before doing their due diligence on the subject and indeed looking at the motive of the doctor making the complaint.I wish him all the best in dealing with these time wasting, puerile idiots.Vickyanne

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Sit down before reading this - Dr. Skinner

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Dr. Skinner woke up this morning to another letter from the GMC to get him to appear again before them. Another doctor has reported him for treating a patient with thyroxin when they were within normal range.

There must be something going on, a steady campaign maybe to get him to give up the ghost and quit. Lilian

February 23, 2012

The whole point is that a doctor can choose whatever thyroid

guidelines he wishes. There ARE NO thyroid guidelines in the UK issued by NICE

or any other organisation. A doctor can choose to use a guideline even if it is

written by an organisation in another country, so long as he can give the

reasons as to why he chose that particular guideline. Dr Skinner uses guidelines

from Europe where the TSH recommended reference range is 0.3 to 2.5. This has

been stated by the Department of Health.

Dr Skinner was exonerated in November and it is there in the

official transcript that they accepted if thyroid function test results were

within the reference range (whichever one he chose to work to) but the patient

still suffered with symptoms and signs and after a thorough clinical

investigation, Dr S felt the patient would benefit from thyroid hormone

replacement that it was OK for him to carry on doing this. How can they change

the rules when another doctor complains about his method of diagnosing when he

is up before a brand new GMC Panel again???

Luv - Sheila

This now seems to be beyond the realms of credence!

On what range are they basing their complaint - do you know

It would appear that the GMC far from being professional are very emotive

with regard to complaints made against Dr Skinner and very hasty in sending

out letters before doing their due diligence on the subject and indeed

looking at the motive of the doctor making the complaint.

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February 23, 2012

I'm pretty sure that they can't change the rules once they have made a decision!

The panel made their decision quite quickly yesterday once all the evidence had

been heard. I'm guessing that they have to investigate all of these complaints

to follow procedure even if it turns out to be a massive waste of time (and

money).

Jen

>

> The whole point is that a doctor can choose whatever thyroid guidelines he

> wishes. There ARE NO thyroid guidelines in the UK issued by NICE or any

> other organisation. A doctor can choose to use a guideline even if it is

> written by an organisation in another country, so long as he can give the

> reasons as to why he chose that particular guideline. Dr Skinner uses

> guidelines from Europe where the TSH recommended reference range is 0.3 to

> 2.5. This has been stated by the Department of Health.

>

> Dr Skinner was exonerated in November and it is there in the official

> transcript that they accepted if thyroid function test results were within

> the reference range (whichever one he chose to work to) but the patient

> still suffered with symptoms and signs and after a thorough clinical

> investigation, Dr S felt the patient would benefit from thyroid hormone

> replacement that it was OK for him to carry on doing this. How can they

> change the rules when another doctor complains about his method of

> diagnosing when he is up before a brand new GMC Panel again???

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

> This now seems to be beyond the realms of credence!

>

> On what range are they basing their complaint - do you know

>

> It would appear that the GMC far from being professional are very emotive

> with regard to complaints made against Dr Skinner and very hasty in sending

> out letters before doing their due diligence on the subject and indeed

> looking at the motive of the doctor making the complaint.

>

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February 23, 2012

HiPrecisely my point. If there are no guidelines then how can the GMC justify wasting public money and time when they have no guidelines to base any complaint on. They appear to be making it up as they go along. If there is an Omudsman for the medical profession then I really think that Dr skinner should appeal to them for help against the hounding and harassment being doled out to him by these doctors and the GMC who should know better and are looking more and more like they do not know what they are doing. Apart from being very unprofessional in the way this is being handled it appears to be unnaturally hastily done.The doctors concerned and the GMC are guilty of misappropriation of public money each time they act like this and they should be made accountable and explain why there is this unhealthy rush to discredit

Dr Skinner.If there no governing body the GMC have to answer to?Vickyanne

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RE: Sit down before reading this - Dr. Skinner

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Thu, Feb 23, 2012 2:29:31 PM

The whole point is that a doctor can choose whatever thyroid

guidelines he wishes. There ARE NO thyroid guidelines in the UK issued by NICE

or any other organisation. A doctor can choose to use a guideline even if it is

written by an organisation in another country, so long as he can give the

reasons as to why he chose that particular guideline. Dr Skinner uses guidelines

from Europe where the TSH recommended reference range is 0.3 to 2.5. This has

been stated by the Department of Health. Dr Skinner was exonerated in November and it is there in the

official transcript that they accepted if thyroid function test results were

within the reference range (whichever one he chose to work to) but the patient

still suffered with symptoms and signs and after a thorough clinical

investigation, Dr S felt the patient would benefit from thyroid hormone

replacement that it was OK for him to carry on doing this. How can they change

the rules when another doctor complains about his method of diagnosing when he

is up before a brand new GMC Panel again??? Luv - Sheila

This now seems to be beyond the realms of credence!

On what range are they basing their complaint - do you know

It would appear that the GMC far from being professional are very emotive

with regard to complaints made against Dr Skinner and very hasty in sending

out letters before doing their due diligence on the subject and indeed

looking at the motive of the doctor making the complaint.

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February 23, 2012

Unbelievable but the GMC are now equally the bad beggers in this: any agency

would simply return the complaint stating their decision from November 2011...

can't help but feeling that they're enjoying this (i.e. day after 70th, then day

after him attending 5 complaints)!

Prof B, who was so discredited that he could no longer be the expert (yeah!)

witness in July, had used the word " WE've got him now " . I know its been asked

before (especially by Sheila) but who are the WE? This seems little short of

conspiracy to bring down a doctor (who has been exonerated for the very same

thing). The GMC continue to fuel...

The C4? programme of Monday night (where a veritable rascal doctor simply

refused to go before the GMC by not turning up), needs to be told what is being

done to Dr S... SOMEONE needs to take this up.

>

> Dr. Skinner woke up this morning to another letter from the GMC to get him

> to appear again before them. Another doctor has reported him for

> treating a patient with thyroxin when they were within normal range.

>

> There must be something going on, a steady campaign maybe to get him to

> give up the ghost and quit.

>

> Lilian

>

February 23, 2012

this is outrageous!

he was exonerated for this, so why can they keep harassing him?

they are deliberately wasting every ones time and money on complaints for a

charge which has already been settled.

>

> Dr. Skinner woke up this morning to another letter from the GMC to get him

> to appear again before them. Another doctor has reported him for

> treating a patient with thyroxin when they were within normal range.

>

> There must be something going on, a steady campaign maybe to get him to

> give up the ghost and quit.

>

> Lilian

>

February 23, 2012

Maybe this is something we can approach our MP on. Wasting public money.LilianOn 23 February 2012 14:42, Vickyanne <vickyanne58@...> wrote:

HiPrecisely my point. If there are no guidelines then how can the GMC justify wasting public money and time when they have no guidelines to base any complaint on. They appear to be making it up as they go along. If there is an Omudsman for the medical profession then I really think that Dr skinner should appeal to them for help against the hounding and harassment being doled out to him by these doctors and the GMC who should know better and are looking more and more like they do not know what they are doing.

A

February 23, 2012

You have hit the nail on the head, ... "we've got him now" said it all. I am sure they (whoever they are) are enjoying this pitiful game and the GMC must be in it as well, or they would simply reject the same old chestnut allegations against one and the same doctor once he has been cleared for similar "crimes".

Thing is... if this carries on, then sadly, I fear, they will have got him. – Dr. Skinner does not do NHS, he earns his money with private practice.... if he gets a letter once a week and is summoned in front of the GMC regularly, he will need to prepare his defence and consequently he can't see patients – so loss of earnings. He also has to keep employing a legal team to work for him – and that doesn't come cheap either. It does not matter to those GP's whether they win or lose their case against Dr. S. – Dr. S. will be kept busy and bankrupted at the same time.... they are onto a win-win situation unless they can be stopped from playing this cruel game ... somehow.

If we knew the individual names of this medical mafia, that would help.... we could make up voodoo dolls, name them and stick needles into their throats.... and the patients of such doctors could make complaints against them to the GMC themselves and perhaps change their GP's.... if their names were made public, thyroid patients would think twice before signing on with such bastards.

February 24, 2012

Hi,

So if GP letters of referral are needed to see Dr S - then this Gp would have

already surely known the TSH levels prior to this patient going to Dr S but had

still effectively agreed to send the patient?!

Secondly, if this patient had mental capacity to make a decision to see a

particular health practitioner and decided how their health and wellbeing care

was delivered - however unwise that choice may seem to certain groups like BTF

etc - then -n who the hell has the right to go over that patients head and

complain about their treatment - The question is did that patient ask for the

complaint - I bet not, in fact I bet they were glad to have their problem

recognised and dealth with finally.

So once again like mushrooms we are kept in the dark and fed sh-t!

Wasting public money - pursuing Dr S - now that is an idea for making noises -

maybe we should be approaching our MP as suggested and making a blanket

complaint - in fact as I suggested in the past - maybe we could have a planned

date where we all approach our MP's or at the very least, date our letters on

the same date.

How many MP's and how many of us - surely we could make a real statement of

intent??

Anyway - let us hope that this witch hunt is called off soon and I also fear

that eventually Dr S will have to give up! There are many of us still for

whatever reason, financially etc that are yet to go and see him - it may be too

late at this rate.

Stacey

February 24, 2012

Each complaint has to be treated as a separate complaint Jen. He

was exonerated over the previous complaints, these five recent one's are 'new'

and the complaint after that is another 'new' one, and each one has to be

investigated. These complaints, I feel are being orchestrated, and will

probably go on and on ad infinitum with the hope that he will get so sick of

them he will retire, leaving them free to carry on with their dangerous diagnostics

and refusal to treat those diagnosed with any other thyroid hormone other than

thyroxine.

Luv - Sheila

I'm pretty sure that they can't change the

rules once they have made a decision! The panel made their decision quite

quickly yesterday once all the evidence had been heard. I'm guessing that they

have to investigate all of these complaints to follow procedure even if it

turns out to be a massive waste of time (and money).