Re: PLEASE HELP!! need to build my adrenals up first

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Hi Hayley

>Whats the point in doing the 24hr saliva test when the docs don't beleive in

adrenal fatigue?(only addisons and cushings)- so they wont prescribe me

cortisol-which is the ONLY(?)real way forward to cure them ready for tackling

the hypo-am i right? I'm so confused.....

I wouldn't just do the 24hr saliva test, but ideally i would see what the 9am

cortisol levels were too, along with ACTH (how hard are the adrenals asked to

work), and also CBG levels - cortisol binding

globulin ; this affects how much free cortisol is available.

I would also do the 24 hour urinary free cortisol test, since i've read that

saliva cortisol levels can be low, but urinary free cortiol levels can be

normal, due to fast clearance in the body.

I have also read that low levels of thyroid hormones will affect the adrenal

output.

low vitamins and minerals may affect the adrenals too.

i was unable to tolerate more than 1/4 of a grain of thyroid for more than a day

or two before correcting other nutrient deficiencies such as Vitamin A,

ferritin, pregnenolone, vitamin D, copper. If any of these (or other) nutrients

are low it'll cause problems with thyroid hormone uptake.

some people also take adrenal glandulars to support the adrenals. but some

people do need hydrocortisone. but i wouldn't take that without doing proper

testing (urine, adrenal, blood) and without proper guidance, and also, taking

DHEA to offset the catabolic effects.

ideally you'd need very thorough testing but i appreciate that's not possible on

the NHS. you can get it easily in belgium, but not on the NHS :-(

do you have adrenal symptoms from this list:

http://www.hertoghe.eu/patients/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=131\

& Itemid=89 & lang=en

chris

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Some people take adrenal glandulars to support their adrenals.

I found this product to be good:

http://www.mandimart.co.uk/adrenal-cortex-50mg-by-thorne-research-60-capsules-71\

9-p.asp

Others have success with Nutri adrenal glandular, which you can buy at a

discount

thyroid treatment/files/DISCOUNTS%20ON\

%20SUPPLEMENTS%20and%20TESTS/

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And packing

3201 90 Nutri Thyroid (thyroid gland concentrate) 10.45 7.00 £1.70 single

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3206 100 Nutri Adrenal (adrenal gland concentrate) 10.94 7.33 £1.70 "

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3205 60 Nutri Adrenal Extra (high potency concentrate) 13.60 9.11 £1.70 "

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3360 90 AdrenoMax (vits,mins,herbs for adrenal support) 24.44 16.37 £1.70 "

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3550 60 T-Convert (minerals to support the Thyroid 17.75 11.89 £1.77

" "

3171 90 Caprylate 16.25 10.88 £1.77 " "

3240 60 Selenium 200 ug 10.45 7.00 £1.77 " "

44044 60 Intrinsic B12 Folate (Vitamin B12) 14.24 9.54 £1.77 "

"

3400 28ml Vitamin D3 Drops (Liquid. Keep in Fridge) 9.98 6.68 £1.77 "

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44112 90 ISO (Vitamin D3) 23.60 15.89 £1.70 (4 items or more free of

charge

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Hayley

Go to our FILES section thyroid treatment/files/

and on the page that opens, scroll down to the ADRENALS folder. Read everything

there is in there. Do the adrenals questionnaire and see how you score.

Ask y our GP to test your levels of iron, transferrin

saturation%, ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and

zinc, because if any of these are low in the reference range, no amount of

thyroid hormone is able to be fully utilised at the cellular level. Once you

get these results, post them here on the forum and we will help with their

interpretation.

The point of doing the 24 hour salivary adrenal test is NOT to

tell your doctor that you have adrenal fatigue, but to convince yourself and to

find out what level of cortisol and DHEA you are secreting at four specific

times during the day. Your doctor will only recognise 's (too little to

no cortisol secretion) and Cushing's (too high a level of cortisol section) and

they refuse to recognise any of the stages leading up to either of these two

diseases. This is one problem that you have to take into your own hands and

diagnose and self treat accordingly. We can help you with this.

Low adrenal reserve is easy to treat once you have learned how

to do this, so read everything you can.

Luv - Sheila

Hi everyone,

I really need pointing in the right direction. I've been ill with hypo for a

staggering 22 yrs (docs mis-diagnosed me) and am quite frankly a mess.My

adrenals are very obviously (from my symtoms and basal temp,pupil test

etc)majorly stressed.I've also tried taking levothyroxine at two different

doses and felt awful at both (classic sign of stressed adrenals,i'm told)I have

now given up thyriod meds altogether.I know i need to sort my adrenals first.My

question is- Whats the point in doing the 24hr saliva test when the docs don't

beleive in adrenal fatigue?(only addisons and cushings)- so they wont prescribe

me cortisol-which is the ONLY(?)real way forward to cure them ready for

tackling the hypo-am i right? I'm so confused.....

I have many other questions,but thought wise to ask one at a time..