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Hi,

i am currently take 120 tab erfa around 6.30am and 120 tab around 5pm and i am

waiting for my latest blood results but feel a bit weird, i am getting pressure

type headaches nearly every day as the side of my head and its worse when i bend

down and have found my bowel habits are loose and very gassy. I keep having

bouts of these and find when i feel a bit poorly i have the same symptoms all

the time, also my teeth are decaying and gums are receeding i am 36 and my

dentist says i need to brush more often but i do and havent changed anything so

why are they changing all of a sudden, is it low vits or minerals. Has any one

had this.

Ali

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hello ali

please post your results a soon as you can ...your headache and loose bowels may

be due to too much ndt. do you have any other symptoms of being a bit hyper

such as fast pulse or raised temperature, hand temors?

regarding your gums i believe this can be a classic sign of thyroid problems

....a very good remedy that works quickly is to take a lot of vitamin c on a

daily basis but because you already have bowel problems it would be best to take

quite small doses (say 250mg) every two or three hours.

b vitamins are also essential and i have read that b3 is particularly gum

friendly. a good quality b complex should help you.

you could also think about rinsing you mouth with a weak solution of hydrogen

peroxide.

best wishes

trish

>

> Hi,

>

> i am currently take 120 tab erfa around 6.30am and 120 tab around 5pm and i am

> waiting for my latest blood results but feel a bit weird, i am getting

pressure

> type headaches nearly every day as the side of my head and its worse when i

bend

> down and have found my bowel habits are loose and very gassy. I keep having

> bouts of these and find when i feel a bit poorly i have the same symptoms all

> the time, also my teeth are decaying and gums are receeding i am 36 and my

> dentist says i need to brush more often but i do and havent changed anything

so

> why are they changing all of a sudden, is it low vits or minerals. Has any one

> had this.

>

> Ali

>

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hello ali

please post your results a soon as you can ...your headache and loose bowels may

be due to too much ndt. do you have any other symptoms of being a bit hyper

such as fast pulse or raised temperature, hand temors?

regarding your gums i believe this can be a classic sign of thyroid problems

....a very good remedy that works quickly is to take a lot of vitamin c on a

daily basis but because you already have bowel problems it would be best to take

quite small doses (say 250mg) every two or three hours.

b vitamins are also essential and i have read that b3 is particularly gum

friendly. a good quality b complex should help you.

you could also think about rinsing you mouth with a weak solution of hydrogen

peroxide.

best wishes

trish

>

> Hi,

>

> i am currently take 120 tab erfa around 6.30am and 120 tab around 5pm and i am

> waiting for my latest blood results but feel a bit weird, i am getting

pressure

> type headaches nearly every day as the side of my head and its worse when i

bend

> down and have found my bowel habits are loose and very gassy. I keep having

> bouts of these and find when i feel a bit poorly i have the same symptoms all

> the time, also my teeth are decaying and gums are receeding i am 36 and my

> dentist says i need to brush more often but i do and havent changed anything

so

> why are they changing all of a sudden, is it low vits or minerals. Has any one

> had this.

>

> Ali

>

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How much T3 are you taking. Is this synthetic or natural? I am

guessing that you took your medication on the morning before you had your blood

drawn to test your thyroid function. You should stop thyroid hormone after the

last dose the day before, otherwise a doctor might tell you that you are over

replaced and need to decrease your dose.

Whenever posting results, always post the reference range for

each test too so we can tell whether they are at the bottom, the middle or the

top of the range.

Glad that you are feeling better today, lets hope this continues

Ali.

Luv - Sheila

Hi,

my results

FT4 19.3pmol/l

FT3 10.2pmol/l

TSH<0.01mU/l

i feel alot better today, is it possible to be over for a few days and then go

back to normal?

Cheers

Ali

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>> How much T3 are you taking. Is this synthetic or natural? I am taking that 125 erfa in the morning and 125 at around 5pm> you took your medication on the morning before you had your blood drawn to. No i always take it after> > Whenever posting results, always post the reference range for each test too> so we can tell whether they are at the bottom, the middle or the top of the> range. I am not sure what you mean as i have just copied down what was on my form?> what should i do?loveALi> my results > FT4 19.3pmol/l> FT3 10.2pmol/l> TSH<0.01mU/l>

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Hi Sheila,

thank you i will call them tommorow to find out my reference range, i

have not taken any Erfa today as i had a bit of a panic attack whilst on

my way to work and staright after i felt sick and really tired due to my

heart going fast, this is the only thing that scares me because i have

had a few whilst driving.

cheers

Ali

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Alison,

Go to our FILES SECTION http://health.group./group/thyroid treatment/files/

and in the ADRENAL folder, click on the Adrenal Questionnaire. Answer all of

those questions and see how you score and let us know. You may need to do the

24 hour salivary adrenal profile to see what your level of cortisol and DHEA is

at four specific times during the day. You can get this done through Genova

Diagnostics or Blue Horizon (see our Folder 'Discounts on Tests and

Supplements).

Meanwhile, if you have not taken any Erfa since the day before

yesterday, can you let us know if you are feeling any better now. Having a free

T3 of 10.2 after not taking the Erfa on the day of your test shows that you

were definitely taking too high a dose at 250mgs daily.

Are you self treating or being directed on dosing via your

doctor?

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila,

thank you i will call them tommorow to find out my reference range, i

have not taken any Erfa today as i had a bit of a panic attack whilst on

my way to work and staright after i felt sick and really tired due to my

heart going fast, this is the only thing that scares me because i have

had a few whilst driving.

cheers

Ali

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Hi Sheila,

i feel a bit better today and yes i am self treating as all the endos i have

seen are arrogant, but i chose to use erfa because my sister is suffering on T4

but she does nothing about it!

I phoned the hospital and they said the reference ranges were

TSH 0.27 - 4.2

FT4 12-22

FT3 3.95 lower 6.8 upper

i am not sure whether this is correct as i just asked for thyroid reference

range?

Cheers

Ali

> Meanwhile, if you have not taken any Erfa since the day before yesterday,

> can you let us know if you are feeling any better now. Having a free T3 of

> 10.2 after not taking the Erfa on the day of your test shows that you were

> definitely taking too high a dose at 250mgs daily.

>

> Are you self treating or being directed on dosing via your doctor?

>

> Luv - Sheila

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Thanks for letting us have the ranges. If your GP's don't have

the reference ranges, how on earth are they able to interpret blood results.

You really should be asking them this Ali. We should not have to telephone the

hospital laboratory to find out what these are.

Did you stop the Erfa and if so, are you starting to feel a lot

better by now and have the headaches been relieved?

Luv - Sheila

i feel a bit better today and yes i am self treating as all the endos i have seen

are arrogant, but i chose to use erfa because my sister is suffering on T4 but

she does nothing about it!

I phoned the hospital and they said the reference ranges were

TSH 0.27 - 4.2

FT4 12-22

FT3 3.95 lower 6.8 upper

i am not sure whether this is correct as i just asked for thyroid reference

range?

Cheers

Ali

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Hi Sheila,

i didn't take any erfa yesterday and i am going to take 1 x 60mg today this

later on today, i had a bit of runny bowels yesterday but today i feel ok. I

have an endo appointment on the 27th March.

Thanks for all your help Sheila

Ali

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Hi,

i do feel better now i have reduced my dose to 2 x 60mg daily of Erfa, but for

the past two nights i have woke up with a racing heart has any body know why or

have had this?

Regards

Ali

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>

>

> Hi,

>

> i do feel better now i have reduced my dose to 2 x 60mg daily of Erfa, but for

the past two nights i have woke up with a racing heart has any body know why or

have had this?

>

> Regards

>

> Ali

>

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Hi Ali

Maybe your adrenals have been struggling to cope with the high dose of Erfa?

Have you completed the adrenals questionnaire like Sheila suggested?

Maybe you could try splitting your 2 x 60mg doses into 4 x 30mg doses and space

them out more evenly through the day? It's worth a try, and it might help with

the palpitations.

Hope this helps.... Gill

> Hi,

> i do feel better now i have reduced my dose to 2 x 60mg daily of Erfa, but for

the past two nights i have woke up with a racing heart has any body know why or

have had this?

> Regards

> Ali

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Pleased that your decreasing the dose has helped you feel

better. You probably woke up with a racing heart because your body is still getting

used to the new hormones in your Erfa Thyroid. If you get these again Ali, take

500mgs Magnesium Citrate, this should help.

Luv - Sheila

> i do feel better now i have reduced my dose to 2 x 60mg daily of Erfa, but

for the past two nights i have woke up with a racing heart has any body know

why or have had this?

>

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i found Erfa very strong and ended up with palpitations, very loose bowels and

sleepless nights. Personally I find that Armour suits me a lot better and is

more of a gentle experience. We are all different, so perhaps you will need to

reduce your dose and move up gently with your dosage. good luck.

>

> Hi Ali

>

> Maybe your adrenals have been struggling to cope with the high dose of Erfa?

Have you completed the adrenals questionnaire like Sheila suggested?

>

> Maybe you could try splitting your 2 x 60mg doses into 4 x 30mg doses and

space them out more evenly through the day? It's worth a try, and it might help

with the palpitations.

>

> Hope this helps.... Gill

>

>

> > Hi,

>

> > i do feel better now i have reduced my dose to 2 x 60mg daily of Erfa, but

for the past two nights i have woke up with a racing heart has any body know why

or have had this?

>

> > Regards

> > Ali

>

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Jan, how much ERFA were you taking? It sounds as if you were on

too high a dose or you increased your dose too quickly.

Luv - Sheila

i found Erfa very strong and ended up with palpitations, very loose bowels and

sleepless nights. Personally I find that Armour suits me a lot better and is

more of a gentle experience. We are all different, so perhaps you will need to

reduce your dose and move up gently with your dosage. good luck.

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