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My 15yo (in 7 days) says he needs a good spanking!!!!!!!!

Then I say move the trampoline to where the van can not be pulled close to

it (away from the house and trees also).

It is possible to have stress fractures that act just as you describe. I

would try a chiropractor first. You can always go to the er for a diagnosis.

Just make sure when he is x-rayed, they cover all other body parts with lead

jackets/blankets.

Hope he gets better!

Love and Blessings,

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> I'm looking for advice please. My husband did a silly thing... he jumped

> off the roof of our van on to a big trampoline on the 4th of July and hurt

> his leg. It is very painful and aches but it doesn't act like it is

> broken. It did not swell, he can walk on it, there's not one outward sign

> that it is hurt. It aches real bad, especially at night. When he puts

> pressure on it, it doesn't hurt but when pressure is off, it hurts. It

> hurts to touch it. The pain began under his knee but he aches on the top

> of his foot too. He said the pain has now moved to near his butt. Could

> this be a pinched nerve and what do you do for it? I am reluctant to send

> him to the doctor... I am almost sure they are going to x-ray it and I

> don't think it is broke. I know they will give him some sort of pain

> medication and tell him to be off of it. I know that! Should I still

have

> him go? Any advice would be helpful.

>

> Blessings Be

>

> Margaret White

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He has swelling. I would have started Feverfew immediately.

This what I think may have happened now that I have stopped laughing. The

kids agree that they only thought the Harvley Kids would do such a thing!

If he landed on his feet, tell him he should have landed on his butt. He may

have stress fractures on his foot and legs. I would say the spine is out of

alignment and may be pinching a nerve. The two leg bones probably jammed at

the knee joint and may have even dislocated the knee cap, possibly even

bursting the 3 little lubricating thingys under there.

I would get the x-ray for diagnostic purposes.

Then I would continue the traction 2-3 times weekly if possible, get an

adjustment as soon as advisable. Massage daily. feverfew or some eo or Bach

remedy for the inflammation. Heat for 20 minutes one hour cold for 20

minutes next hour.

Love and Blessings,

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> Margaret - Where have you been? Sorry to hear about you husband. I think

he

> should ck it out, since it is getting worse and not better. Do you have a

> chiropractor you could call?

> You should pop over to Momwithminds -they were asking about you. Take

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Just curious Margaret, but where do you live? I know someone in the area that

could probably help, but it won't do any good if you're not near Illinois.

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I'm looking for advice please. My husband did a silly thing... he jumped

off the roof of our van on to a big trampoline on the 4th of July and hurt

his leg. It is very painful and aches but it doesn't act like it is

broken. It did not swell, he can walk on it, there's not one outward sign

that it is hurt. It aches real bad, especially at night. When he puts

pressure on it, it doesn't hurt but when pressure is off, it hurts. It

hurts to touch it. The pain began under his knee but he aches on the top

of his foot too. He said the pain has now moved to near his butt. Could

this be a pinched nerve and what do you do for it? I am reluctant to send

him to the doctor... I am almost sure they are going to x-ray it and I

don't think it is broke. I know they will give him some sort of pain

medication and tell him to be off of it. I know that! Should I still have

him go? Any advice would be helpful.

Blessings Be

Margaret White

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You're right Sandy. It's hard to know what to do in these type cases. I

tend towards a " wait and see " philosophy. If an injury continues to worsen,

then yes if my naturopath couldn't treat/diagnose it, then I would seek

allopathic help.

Just a few weeks ago, my doberman was trying to maneuver open a closed double

gate and managed to hurt her foreleg with her shenanigans. That poor leg -

it swelled up pretty good at the joint and was so painful she could not put

any weight on it. I was scared and was definitely wondering if I should take

her to the vet. But all I have near me are ridiculous allopathic vets as

opposed to holistic and I felt I already knew what the allopathic treatment

would be. And since I wasn't sure that it was the best course of action, I

chose to " wait and see " . Thankfully, within a couple days there was

noticeable improvement, but it still took over a week before she started

putting any weight on it. The leg appears almost completely well now.

Kathleen

In a message dated 7/12/2001 11:53:44 PM Central Daylight Time,

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> The problem here is we are diagnosing what is wrong, and we're doing it over

> the Internet. We are not trained in diagnosis, yet we are doing it long

> distance . I broke my leg when I was a kid and until they x-rayed it, they

> thought it was something minor. It didn't swell or anything. In my case,

> it hurt like heck to walk on, but that didn't phase them. I realize that

> your husband's leg does not hurt to walk on, so that may not be it, but I

> believe you need a diagnosis before you can know what to do. Find someone

> you can trust, if that is possible. Sandy

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> WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE

> MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER.

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>

> well, my husband is going through this right now

> the surgeon said the only thing to do is to rest the muscle, which may

> be hard considering it is his leg

> they do not do surgery (thankfully)

> Kathy

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> :

> : Any idea what they will do for muscle damage other than wait for it to

> : heal? I sort of feel like it is muscle damage too. Can you tell I

> just

> : don't do doctors?

> :

> : Margaret White

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> :

> :

> : " K & T "

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Thanks but I live in Michigan.

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that could probably help, but it won't do any good if you're not near

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ADVICE PLEASE

I'm looking for advice please. My husband did a silly thing... he jumped

off the roof of our van on to a big trampoline on the 4th of July and

hurt

his leg. It is very painful and aches but it doesn't act like it is

broken. It did not swell, he can walk on it, there's not one outward

sign

that it is hurt. It aches real bad, especially at night. When he puts

pressure on it, it doesn't hurt but when pressure is off, it hurts. It

hurts to touch it. The pain began under his knee but he aches on the top

of his foot too. He said the pain has now moved to near his butt. Could

this be a pinched nerve and what do you do for it? I am reluctant to

send

him to the doctor... I am almost sure they are going to x-ray it and I

don't think it is broke. I know they will give him some sort of pain

medication and tell him to be off of it. I know that! Should I still

have

him go? Any advice would be helpful.

Blessings Be

Margaret White

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Hey Sandy, I'm glad to see you posting more. I missed ya! :)

By the way, keep up the good work with your website. It is so great and just

like me, it just gets better with age! Heeheehee

Kathleen

In a message dated 7/13/2001 1:44:47 PM Central Daylight Time,

sandym@... writes:

> Kathleen, It's true that most things get better on their own. And I rarely

> go to the doctor, any kind, actually. The trick is to know when you need

> help, I guess.

>

> But as long as you're not easily coerced, and trust the diagnostic abilities

> of the person you are seeing, I can't see any harm in going when there is an

> acute injury of this sort. The problems arise when you aren't sure about

> the person' abilities and/or advice, and can be talked into following what

> they recommend. But I believe information, as long as it is good

> information, is (almost?) always beneficial.

>

> When my kids were really little, I used to call the doctor all the time.

> And I still tend to call more often than go. If I think there is a way to

> avoid going in, then I don't go in. But I learned a lot from those calls.

> And slowly, with all the reading I did on top of it, began to trust my own

> judgement. Sandy

>

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Kathleen, It's true that most things get better on their own. And I rarely

go to the doctor, any kind, actually. The trick is to know when you need

help, I guess.

But as long as you're not easily coerced, and trust the diagnostic abilities

of the person you are seeing, I can't see any harm in going when there is an

acute injury of this sort. The problems arise when you aren't sure about

the person' abilities and/or advice, and can be talked into following what

they recommend. But I believe information, as long as it is good

information, is (almost?) always beneficial.

When my kids were really little, I used to call the doctor all the time.

And I still tend to call more often than go. If I think there is a way to

avoid going in, then I don't go in. But I learned a lot from those calls.

And slowly, with all the reading I did on top of it, began to trust my own

judgement. Sandy

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IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS

REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE

CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION

WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE

MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER.

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>

>

> well, my husband is going through this right now

> the surgeon said the only thing to do is to rest the muscle, which may

> be hard considering it is his leg

> they do not do surgery (thankfully)

> Kathy

>

> -----

>

>

> :

> : Any idea what they will do for muscle damage other than wait for it to

> : heal? I sort of feel like it is muscle damage too. Can you tell I

> just

> : don't do doctors?

> :

> : Margaret White

> :

> :

> :

> : " K & T "

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It's good to be back! Although I must admit, summer in Alaska has a lot of

distractions. So I'm afraid it'll be a bit sporadic for awhile yet.

And thanks for your comment about my website and you! I think that we all

can get better with age - we just have to see the changes as positive!

I have a magnet on my frig which says " I'm not 50, I'm 18 with 32 years of

experience', and darn it if I don't choose to wear that experience well -

although those 32 years have now grown to 33........ :)

Sandy

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CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION

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Hey Sandy, I'm glad to see you posting more. I missed ya! :)

By the way, keep up the good work with your website. It is so great and

just

like me, it just gets better with age! Heeheehee

Kathleen

In a message dated 7/13/2001 1:44:47 PM Central Daylight Time,

sandym@... writes:

> Kathleen, It's true that most things get better on their own. And I

rarely

> go to the doctor, any kind, actually. The trick is to know when you need

> help, I guess.

>

> But as long as you're not easily coerced, and trust the diagnostic

abilities

> of the person you are seeing, I can't see any harm in going when there is

an

> acute injury of this sort. The problems arise when you aren't sure about

> the person' abilities and/or advice, and can be talked into following what

> they recommend. But I believe information, as long as it is good

> information, is (almost?) always beneficial.

>

> When my kids were really little, I used to call the doctor all the time.

> And I still tend to call more often than go. If I think there is a way to

> avoid going in, then I don't go in. But I learned a lot from those calls.

> And slowly, with all the reading I did on top of it, began to trust my own

> judgement. Sandy

>

> ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE

>

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In a message dated 7/12/01 12:04:31 PM Alaskan Daylight Time,

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> Hello Jill... all. He did go to our Chiropractor yesterday and they did

> traction and gave him an alignment. He felt better for about 2 hours, then

> it got bad again. I am worried because it is getting worse.

>

Margaret~

He needs to continue going to the chiropractor. You can't expect an injury

like that to heal instantly, give it some time.

Cheryl

Alaska

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Thanks Cheryl... he has been going everyday except yesterday. The

Chiropractor thinks it is a sprain too and told him to keep off it and use

heat to cold alternation for pain. He goes again today.

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> Hello Jill... all. He did go to our Chiropractor yesterday and they did

> traction and gave him an alignment. He felt better for about 2 hours,

then

> it got bad again. I am worried because it is getting worse.

>

Margaret~

He needs to continue going to the chiropractor. You can't expect an injury

like that to heal instantly, give it some time.

Cheryl

Alaska

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I forgot to post to a reply to this

message.<br><br>Seeing your position that your employer isn't entirely

cooperative towards your needs I wonder if you could approach

this from a different angle? <br><br>Instead of

finding pills or surgery what about something where don't

have to be standing?<br><br>Do you have to stand or

can you can use a tall stool and is it easier to

stand on something softer like gym mats or something to

that effect?<br><br>I'm curious about how mobile you

are during work, also what your lower body is doing

and post it here because I know an occupational

therapist and will relay your dilemma.

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In a message dated 3/25/2002 1:05:40 PM Central Standard Time,

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> There is

> disagreement about her Special Education Consult, specifically the number

> of

> times

> per week and whether the services are (or should be) direct or indirect.

> Since it appears that Corrie's IEP is not being followed, we would

> appreciate

> setting a meeting date ASAP. We are available most days during the next two

> weeks,

> except Tuesday the April 2nd and the morning of Tuesday April 9.

> Sincerely,

>

Ah yes the old direct/indirect thing. BTDT, and technically the school was

doing what they had stated in the IEP because I had been remiss in making

sure the stuff discussed was put INTO the IEP. (the old we won't put it in

because we'll just do it anyway type of thing)

You really need to get that cleared up. our state forms have or used to have

direct/indirect where they had to put in the actual time that was direct and

indirect. This is where we got taken. It was very hard to read these

numbers the way most districts wrote them. sigh.

You might say something like, that in order to access the situation before

deciding how to proceed in assuring that C's educational rights are upheld we

would like the clarification of the issue. hehe this way you would be

kinda hinting that you are willing to proceed to due process or whatever.

I'm sure someon can come up with a better way of saying it. :-)

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That's always good to follow a verbal conversation or a phone conversation up

with it in writing. That way you have it for your records. Also, always ask

them to put something in writing if they tell you verbally.

The letter sounds good to me and I would refrain from any type of mention of

lawyers or legal action right now. The fact that you mentioned that they IEP

is not being followed lets them know that YOU know that they are out of

compliance and that's enough for now. My opinion anyway.

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I agree with you . I don't want to be offensive (yet) . I think they'll

get it. Thanks for your input.

B

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That's always good to follow a verbal conversation or a phone conversation up

with it in writing. That way you have it for your records. Also, always ask

them to put something in writing if they tell you verbally.

The letter sounds good to me and I would refrain from any type of mention of

lawyers or legal action right now. The fact that you mentioned that they IEP is

not being followed lets them know that YOU know that they are out of

compliance and that's enough for now. My opinion anyway.

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I started Autumn on the peak flow about 6 months ago. For about 2

months, I didn't consider the readings accurate. It was more

practice time for her. She thought it was a lot of fun learning.

She now reminds me to do a peak flow if I forget. I think the #'s we

get are fairly accurate now. If she's tired, has nasal congestion,

or just doesn't feel like it, the #'s appear to be low. I usually

make a note in the margin & have her do another one when I think

she's doing better. Then, if we get two bad readings in a row, I do

a preventative treatment just to see if it helps. If it doesn't I go

back to the chart & note it there.

It's mostly just trial & error. There are also different types of

peak flows. I would get several different ones & see which one works

best for him. Then, I would stick with that same meter every single

time. My ped told me I was a little anal about this, but to me it

makes sure I'm getting accurate results. We do some in the office

when she's having & they use a completely different meter. The #'s

still turn out to be close to mine, but I just want to be sure.

Is that helpful?

Ray, mother to Tabitha (age 6), Autumn, age 4 (IgG def.,

asthma, chronic sinusitis, and allergies), and Duncan (11 months)

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Have you tried " Wilby? " It's a peak flow meter that also measures her FEV1.

Ask you doc about it. also, you send the results to the doctor via the

phone line.

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> I started Autumn on the peak flow about 6 months ago. For about 2

> months, I didn't consider the readings accurate. It was more

> practice time for her. She thought it was a lot of fun learning.

> She now reminds me to do a peak flow if I forget. I think the #'s we

> get are fairly accurate now. If she's tired, has nasal congestion,

> or just doesn't feel like it, the #'s appear to be low. I usually

> make a note in the margin & have her do another one when I think

> she's doing better. Then, if we get two bad readings in a row, I do

> a preventative treatment just to see if it helps. If it doesn't I go

> back to the chart & note it there.

>

> It's mostly just trial & error. There are also different types of

> peak flows. I would get several different ones & see which one works

> best for him. Then, I would stick with that same meter every single

> time. My ped told me I was a little anal about this, but to me it

> makes sure I'm getting accurate results. We do some in the office

> when she's having & they use a completely different meter. The #'s

> still turn out to be close to mine, but I just want to be sure.

>

> Is that helpful?

>

> Ray, mother to Tabitha (age 6), Autumn, age 4 (IgG def.,

> asthma, chronic sinusitis, and allergies), and Duncan (11 months)

>

>

>

>

>

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sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional

advice.

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In a message dated 3/3/2003 6:55:40 PM Central Standard Time, ekck98@...

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> Even if our elementary school cannot provide for

> Chase I do not see why he needs to go so far away. Has anyone else been in

> this situation? I was really hoping for the 12-1-1 class.

>

> I appreciate any input.

>

> Carolyn (Will, 7 Chase, 4 ds)

>

>

Hi carolyn

mary was the first child in our local district with significant delays to

actucally stay there. (we've since placed her i a different setting, lol)

but she was there through her elem years.

We were given the same crap you were told, only our school added the

statement that because they are such a small district that THEY can decide

have her placed in a different school district that does have a program.

hehe. its' not true of course, our parent advocate said that the only way

they could get by us9ing that type of excuse would have been if she required

significant physical/medical help that they really couldn't have done. (even

that I have my doubts about but we didn't have to go there)

Your child has the right to begin in the least restrictive eviroment, WITH

the accomodations and adaptations needed to ensure his success.

good luck

joy

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In a message dated 3/3/2003 6:55:50 PM Central Standard Time, ekck98@...

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> Hi everyone I am really hoping this goes through to you. I keep trying to

> send the email but it never males in to the site.

>

> My name is Carolyn and I live in Putnam County, NY. Last week my husband

> and

> I learned that our son Chase (DS) who will be entering kindergarten in the

> fall will be the only child with ds entering the school district.

> Therefore

> the school feels that they will be unable to meet all of his needs and that

> he should ld be bussed 45 minute to a facility that has a ds program.

> Chase

> has never been in a solely ds class at preschool and there have been no

> issues whatsoever. Without rambling on does anyone have any ideas of what

> our next step would be> Even if our elementary school cannot provide for

> Chase I do not see why he needs to go so far away. Has anyone else been in

> this situation? I was really hoping for the 12-1-1 class.

>

> I appreciate any input.

>

> Carolyn (Will, 7 Chase, 4 ds)

HI :)

Glad you made it through :)

The opposite happened to us. When it came time for Kindergarten I wanted Sara

included with her age appropriate peers. She had been attending a school not

labeled her home school because they had a preschool class ........... which

she was in ages 4 and 5. This school was designed for kids with special

needs. At an IEP meeting deciding placement, I said I wanted Sara included in

Kindy, they said she will have to go to her home school. I think they wanted

to scare me because no child with a disability like Sara's has ever gone

there. Anyway I hopped on this and I know this was a great decision. Yes, its

been trial and error, yes they've made tons of mistakes BUT Sara has grown

immensely in this school.

If your home school has a Resource teacher for LD labels then that teacher is

qualified to work with your child.

Remember Special Education is a service not a place ..... Services come to

your child no matter what setting he is in :)

Kathy mom to Sara 11 ............. 4th grade now

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Yeppers, Kathy. LOL. I'm Beth, mom to twins, Austin, who has ds, and

Dakota, who doesn't. They are 6.

Both boys attend our " home " school, and are in separate kindy classes. The

first words out of the school system's mouth were " we are going to send him

to for school. " Well, we had just packed up and moved away from

to get away from the schools. So, long story short, he's included

in a regular kindy class. He has a full time paraprofessional (aide), and

he's pulled out of class 40 minutes a day, 4 days a week for resource. He

also gets speech and occupational therapies. The system is small, and they

don't have an OT on staff. But, they are required to contract out, so one

comes from an area hospital to work with the few kids in the system that need

it. (There are only around 1000 kids ((Reg and sped combined)) in the entire

system, and that is probably a high estimate.)

It wasn't too much of a fight, when they realized that I knew the laws, or at

least could look them up in my copy of IDEA at the table, lol, and gave me

everything I asked for when it came to him. There have been struggles, let

me tell you. But, it can all be worked out. I wish you well. Just holler

if you need anything.

Beth

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In a message dated 3/3/2003 7:53:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, ekck98 writes:

> facility that has a ds program.

Did they tell you what a " ds program " is?

Cheryl in VA

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Actually they were not forthcoming with any information. My husband thought

to ask where the district saw Chase fitting in next year and then this came

out. If he had not asked this would have been dropped on us in meetings to

be held later this month. Now we are getting all of the information we can

before going in.

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The law states that the child should be served in the school he/she would attend

if he/she were not handicapped. It also states that a FAPE (free and

appropriate public education) be in the LRE (least restrictive environment).

That is lawyer and eduspeak for their neighborhood school in the regular

classroom with appropriate aids and services unless it has been proven that the

child cannot benefit from that placment. I take it this is a small town?

Elaine

advice please

Hi everyone I am really hoping this goes through to you. I keep trying to

send the email but it never males in to the site.

My name is Carolyn and I live in Putnam County, NY. Last week my husband and

I learned that our son Chase (DS) who will be entering kindergarten in the

fall will be the only child with ds entering the school district. Therefore

the school feels that they will be unable to meet all of his needs and that

he should ld be bussed 45 minute to a facility that has a ds program. Chase

has never been in a solely ds class at preschool and there have been no

issues whatsoever. Without rambling on does anyone have any ideas of what

our next step would be> Even if our elementary school cannot provide for

Chase I do not see why he needs to go so far away. Has anyone else been in

this situation? I was really hoping for the 12-1-1 class.

I appreciate any input.

Carolyn (Will, 7 Chase, 4 ds)

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Remember to write the goals and objectives before the placement decision is

made. They (meaning the team) aren't allowed to discuss placement prior to

goals and objectives being written.

Re: advice please

Actually they were not forthcoming with any information. My husband thought

to ask where the district saw Chase fitting in next year and then this came

out. If he had not asked this would have been dropped on us in meetings to

be held later this month. Now we are getting all of the information we can

before going in.

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Elaine writes: >>>>>>>>>>>

The law states that the child should be served in the school he/she

would attend if he/she

were not handicapped. It also states that a FAPE (free and appropriate

public education) be

in the LRE (least restrictive environment). That is lawyer and eduspeak

for their

neighborhood school in the regular classroom with appropriate aids and

services unless it has

been proven that the child cannot benefit from that placment.

<<<<<<<<<<<,

I believe that law and reality have to separate here. Our children are

individuals (maybe we are as well?). The assumption that your child

must be restricted to the school she/he would have attended if she/he

were not handicapped can be very wrong. I believe that we need to seek

out the best environment to educate our children, whether it is in the

local district or somewhere else. Back in what some consider the dark

ages, we chose the class environments for our daughter (she, not he) by

choosing the teachers and programs that we thought would teach her to

her limits.

No, she never went to school in her home district. She usually had an

hour bus ride each way to school. My only angst tonight is: " Where is

my email. " She hasn't written me today, but maybe she's mad because I

didn't directly address the email she sent me on Sunday. I regard her

education as a success and have great respect for the teachers who had

the patience to teach this wonderful and awful chld all that she could

learn.

Your child will be different. You and your co-parent (if there is one)

may be different. Your school district may be different. Given the

child we had and the school options we had, I have no regrets about

Jan's education .. even when we backed down a couple of times when it

was clear that the environment we wanted her in was not shared by the

teacher who would have her.

Rick ... proud dad of Jan .. 30 years old

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Rick-

How did you go about selecting a school for your daughter. Each year, there

are new teachers and new situations. The child almost has to settle in with

a teacher before it becomes apparent how the child will get along with a

specific teacher/class. Did you ask the teachers specific questions before

the school year started to test the waters?

Schulte

Back in what some consider the dark

> ages, we chose the class environments for our daughter (she, not he) by

> choosing the teachers and programs that we thought would teach her to

> her limits.

>

> No, she never went to school in her home district. She usually had an

> hour bus ride each way to school. My only angst tonight is: " Where is

> my email. " She hasn't written me today, but maybe she's mad because I

> didn't directly address the email she sent me on Sunday. I regard her

> education as a success and have great respect for the teachers who had

> the patience to teach this wonderful and awful chld all that she could

> learn.

>

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