Re: Newbie - can anyone help please? Questions, questions!

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> hi,

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> I've been reading quite a lot on the site, but feel really boggled by it all!

Can I ask some questions please?

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> 1. Are there doctors who I can see who will prescribe for someone who is

within the " normal range " (just) without a referral from a GP? My GP is useless

and I'm too ill to deal with changing him at the moment!

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> Either NHS or Private.

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> 2. Who are the best private doctors - I know about Dr Skinner, but not sure

if he's seeing people or not - and I think he needs GP referral.

>

> 3. Can you buy natural throid without a prescription, and if so, where?

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> 4. What is the lowest dose you can get? Is it in tablet or capsule form? If

tablet, can you cut in half to get smaller dose?

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> 5. Does natural thyroid (Erfa etc) contain T4 and T3? At what ratio?

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> 6. Has anyone here attempted to treat themselves without a doctor, or is that

too risky?

>

> thanks!

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Hi,sorry your not well at the moment,i'm not able to advice you but you are in

the right place to get help,i'm sure someone will be on soon to give you the

right advice.I think you will need to post your Blood thyroid Results before

anyone can help you. Helen

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Instead of putting p with a useless GP, find a GP that isn't

useless. You don't have to stick with the one you started with if he is no

good. If there is nobody else at your surgery, contact your local Primary Care

rust and tell them you have no faith in the doctors at your present practice

and that you would like another doctor in another surgery and they will find

you one.

1. Are there doctors who I can see who will prescribe for someone who is within

the " normal range " (just) without a referral from a GP? My GP is

useless and I'm too ill to deal with changing him at the moment!

Yes, good doctors recognise that thyroid function test results

on their own are useless and will take into account your symptoms, signs,

family history, background and the results of a thorough clinical examination.

Either NHS or Private.

Both - I have sent you a list of recommended doctors - but these

are doctors who will prescribe using T4 and T3, in combination or alone, or

natural thyroid extract.

2. Who are the best private doctors - I know about Dr

Skinner, but not sure if he's seeing people or not - and I think he needs GP

referral.

Dr Skinner now demands GP referral but yes, he is seeing people.

3. Can you buy natural throid without a prescription, and if

so, where?

Yes. Check our FILES SECTION of this forum. Go to the Home Page,

click on FILES in the Menu. Scroll down the list to 'INTERNET PHARMACIES' and

you will see the list of reputable Internet Pharmacies where you can buy NDT

without the need of a prescription.

Learn how to use the FILES section, this is a very valuable

resource.

4. What is the lowest dose you can get? Is it in tablet or

capsule form? If tablet, can you cut in half to get smaller dose?

It is in tablet form and the lowest dose you can get is 30mgs

(half a grain).

5. Does natural thyroid (Erfa etc) contain T4 and T3? At

what ratio?

All natural thyroid extract contains T4, T3, T2, T1 plus

calcitonin. Check out the information in the 'All Natural Thyroid Extract'

FOLDER. You will find the information you need in there.

6. Has anyone here attempted to treat themselves without a

doctor, or is that too risky?

Most have. Most have had no option but to do this themselves.

Again, all the information you need to do this is in the FILES SECTION. In the

'All Natural Thyroid Extract' folder, there is one document entitled 'How to

Treat Using Natural Thyroid Extract'. Check it out and all of the rest of the

information there.

Luv - Sheila

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Hi Helen, we cannot advise until we no if you have been tested.

borderline well their is no such thing. you are or you are not.!

the tests are reference intervals not normal ones and the TSH is not a thyroid

test. the best teats to ask for are Ft4,Ft3, and TPOab,also

tgAB. get your dotor to do these and post the results so we can help

you. Angel.

> >

> > hi,

> >

> > I've been reading quite a lot on the site, but feel really boggled by it

all! Can I ask some questions please?

> >

> > 1. Are there doctors who I can see who will prescribe for someone who is

within the " normal range " (just) without a referral from a GP? My GP is useless

and I'm too ill to deal with changing him at the moment!

> >

> > Either NHS or Private.

> >

> > 2. Who are the best private doctors - I know about Dr Skinner, but not sure

if he's seeing people or not - and I think he needs GP referral.

> >

> > 3. Can you buy natural throid without a prescription, and if so, where?

> >

> > 4. What is the lowest dose you can get? Is it in tablet or capsule form?

If tablet, can you cut in half to get smaller dose?

> >

> > 5. Does natural thyroid (Erfa etc) contain T4 and T3? At what ratio?

> >

> > 6. Has anyone here attempted to treat themselves without a doctor, or is

that too risky?

> >

> > thanks!

> >

> Hi,sorry your not well at the moment,i'm not able to advice you but you are in

the right place to get help,i'm sure someone will be on soon to give you the

right advice.I think you will need to post your Blood thyroid Results before

anyone can help you. Helen

>

[Guest guest]

hi there

If you can advise roughly whereabouts you live, someone else may be able to

recommend a good GP in that area...

> 3. Can you buy natural throid without a prescription, and if so, where?

www.inhousepharmacy.vu

www.internationalpharmacy.com

http://www.1drugstore-online.com/showprice.asp?name=thyroid & bysearch=ok & Go.x=0 & G\

o.y=0

> 4. What is the lowest dose you can get? Is it in tablet or capsule form? If

tablet, can you cut in half to get smaller dose?

1/4 grain in Naturethroid/westhroid and I believe in Armour, too. 1/2 grain is

the smallest amount you can get in Erfa. (1 grain = 60mg)

They are tablets.

Yes, you can cut them. With Erfa, you can let it dissolve under your tongue

(some people prefer this way, others don't - it may help some people who have

problems absorbing it via the intestines)

Most people do well on Erfa, it's supposed to be as good as the old armour, but

unfortunately you cannot get erfa without a prescription (that i know of).

There is also the thyroid medications from Thailand (1drugstore link) - some

people do very well on these. I think you can also take the Thai thyroid under

the tongue, too.

Naturethroid/westhroid have the same ingredients , some don't do so well on

these because they reformulated the ingredients. Same as Armour - that used to

be the best, but they changed the formula.

> 5. Does natural thyroid (Erfa etc) contain T4 and T3? At what ratio?

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2009/09/02/erfas-canadian-thyroid-details/

" Erfa's very friendly and helpful Medical Director, Henri Knafo, MD, states that

they follow the USP (United States Pharmacopoeia) specifications. But I do see

some slight differences. The USP specifications ratio for one grain that we are

used to in the US is 38 mcg. T4 and 9 mcg T3, i.e 38/9. The above ratio is

35/8.

Likewise, US patients are used to 2 grains of 120 mgs having 76 mcg of T4 and 18

mcg of T3, i.e. 76/18. In Erfa's medication of 125 mg, you will get a ratio of

73/17. I don't know if this will make much of a difference but want you to be

aware as you work to adjust Erfa's desiccated thyroid to the treatment you were

used "

Any questions please ask

chris

[Guest guest]

1.

Are there doctors who I can see who will prescribe for someone who is within the

" normal range " (just) without a referral from a GP? My GP is useless

and

I'm too ill to deal with changing him at the moment! Either NHS or Private.

I have

sent you privately a list of doctors who have been recommended.

2.

Who are the best private doctors - I know about Dr Skinner, but not sure if he's

seeing people or not - and I think he needs GP referral.

Yes,

he is seeing patients and yes, your GP needs to refer you to him.

3. Can you buy natural throid without a prescription, and if so, where?

Yes.

Go to our FILES SECTION http://health..group.thyroid treatment/files/

and scroll down to the FOLDER entitled 'INTERNET PHARMACIES' You will find a

lot there.

4. What is the lowest dose you can get? Is it in tablet or capsule form? If tablet,

can you cut in half to get smaller dose?

Again,

go to the above link to our FILES, and open the FOLDER 'All Natural Thyroid

Extract. In the page that opens, scroll down to the one entitled 'How to Use

Natural Thyroid Extract. Read it all to fully understand.

5. Does natural thyroid (Erfa etc) contain T4 and T3? At what ratio?

Yes,

all the different brands and generics of natural thyroid extract contain T4,

T3, T2, T1 plus calcitonin. Erfa has a ratio of 38mcgs T4 and 9mcgs T3.

6.

Has anyone here attempted to treat themselves without a doctor, or is that too

risky?

Many

of us have done this. The majority of us have been forced into this situation

because our doctors refuse to recognise that we have a problem with our thyroid

if our results come back anywhere within the thyroid reference ranges. It is

either going down the self treatment route, or putting up with continuing

symptoms and ill health. If you follow the recommendations in THIS forum, you

should not have any problems. For some of us, it is more risky sticking with

our uneducated and often, uncaring doctor. I would not hesitate. I do know of

one 'support' group who refuse to allow their members any discussion regarding

self medication, which I personally believe is irresponsible and dangerous. If

a patient has no other option left other than to self medicate, then s/he needs

to have access to as much information and discussion about this as possible.

This is the ONLY safe way to do it. You will find as much information that you

need in our FILES SECTION and asking questions.

You

might want to see what our wonderful Dr Peatfield thinks about self medication

and you can read about this on our web site

http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/self_medication.php

Luv - Sheila