Anyone tried 'NATURAL SOURCES.RAW THYROID'? (it's on EBAY!)

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I'm trying to find uk suppliers of NDT'S without the need for perscription or

seeing a specialist.Is this wise? also, has anyone tried the above?- its BOVINE

not PORCINE(from new zealand)....

hayley x

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I recently stocked up on natural desiccated thyroid and searched around the internet including Ebay. I opted to stay with a USP (United States Pharmacopeia) grade medicine - in this case Nature-throid.  I'd be a bit nervous about the levels of T4 and T3 in stuff which doesn't have a USP type quality assurance. But I'll be interested in other replies about the Ebay raw thyroid!

Lynne

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Hi Hayley,

Amazon.com has reviews on the above product:

http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Sources-Raw-Thyroid-capsules/dp/B00014DQGU/ref=sr_\

1_1?ie=UTF8 & qid=1330212545 & sr=8-1

and

http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Sources-Raw-Thyroid-Caps/dp/B003GLJ6VY/ref=sr_1_2?\

ie=UTF8 & qid=1330212545 & sr=8-2

Ingredients

Thyroid Tissue: 50mg, Adrenal Tissue: 20mg, Pituitary Tissue: 10mg, Thymus

Tissue: 5mg, Spleen Tissue: 5mg, Kelp: 300mg

Directions

As a dietary supplement, take one capsule daily, following a meal.

The content seems rather low on thyroid and adrenal tissue. More experienced

members can advise on whether it is worth taking.

You could try Nutri Thyroid as a starting point- see the the file section for

how to order at a discounted rate. Otherwise you could import some NDTs without

the need for a prescription. Take a look at the internet pharmacies document in

the files section.

Colin

also, has anyone tried the above?- its BOVINE not PORCINE(from new zealand)....

> hayley x

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Hi Lynne

Thanks very much for answering. I seem to be having a similar experience with

Levothyroxine. I am now under Dr Skinners care, who increased the Levothyroxine

to 200mcg gradually (from 75mcg under my GP) I am going back to see him this

week as I am unable to tolerate 200mcg and have reduced it back to 150mcg

myself. I am going to ask Dr S to try something else. I found have found that my

sleep is even worse on higher doses of Levo, I wake up hot during the night and

feel really dreadful. My GP thinks I'm over replaced going by my bloods, (T4

just over the top of the range, T3 just above the bottom of the range & TSH

supressed). but Dr Skinner is not concerned and questions this. Although many of

my symptoms have improved on 150mcg Levo, I feel I could be even better,

especially if my sleep improved. I daren't talk to my GP about my sleep problems

because in the past when I have asked for sleeping tablets she has said it's

because I was on too high a dose of Levo and reduced it, making me feel even

worse & still poor sleep!. It also says in the Levo leaflet that insomnia can be

a side effect!

Do you self treat with Natural Thyroid, is your GP aware and does he tolerate

it?

Sorry to rant on and thank you so much for listening, it helps a lot!

And I am glad that you seem to be on the right road now.

Kind Regards

Sue

> Yes, the upset sleep was when I was trying to switch from Natural

> desiccated thyroid to thyroxine.

>

> I'd been on Natural desiccated thyroid for about 6 years but, under the

> " care " of endocrinologists, tried to shift to thyroxine last November.

>

[Ed]

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Do you self treat with Natural Thyroid, is your GP aware and does he tolerate it?Hi Sue

In 2005 my GP referred me to Dr Skinner, who I saw 2 or 3 times. Dr Skinner diagnosed my hypothyroidism and prescribed thyroxine. 

My GP was happy to continue prescribing 150mcg thyroxine and so I carried on under my GP's care. Later that year I decided to try Armour and my GP looked into it for me. Said he couldn't prescribe it, but it probably wouldn't do me any harm! So he has known all along that I've switched over to it and has let me get on with it. 

Since about 18 months ago, the GP has been much more concerned about my suppressed TSH. And I agreed to have appointments with endocrinology. They recently discharged me, saying I'm over medicated.

The best doctor I've seen has been Dr Skinner. I'd stick with him as long as you can. I keep thinking I should try to see Dr Skinner again, but my GP seems reluctant to refer me again. I obviously do better on natural desiccated thyroid, but while my GP knows I'm taking it, he and none of the 4 endocrinologists I saw have been particularly helpful. NDT is just not anything they are experienced in and unfortunately they don't seem to want to learn about it either. 

However, all of the medical people I've seen within the NHS seem to take the view that I am entitled to choose the medicine I want to be on. And also one of the endocrinologists allowed for the fact that some individuals particularly women, feel better when they are " over medicated " by about 25mcg thyroxine!!!

So they do " tolerate " what I'm doing - and you're allowed to be different. But there don't seem to be many NHS practitioners who have the skill or the will to treat somebody who is different from what they think is the norm. I was recently told by an endocrinologist, after making the journey to the hospital for the 4th appointment in 9 months, that the Natural desiccated thyroid which I'm taking might not show up on the lab's " assays " so they are unable to monitor me. 

Lynne