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Hi Elena,

Welcome! I'm Debbie mom to 2 sets of identical twins. They are 3 1/2 years and

18 months.

Debbie from IL

Elena <elenabg@...> wrote:

Hi everyone

My name is Elena and I have a 7 month old son . Basically I became aware

of this topic when my son had his first vaccinations. The paedritican told me

that I had no choice and that vaccination was mandatory. I found out that this

was a lie, but blame myself as I did not find out sooner. Anyway after doing

some research I found out some information on vaccinations, which is hair

raising to put it mildly.

I am looking forward to exploring this topic in depth.

Elena

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Thank you, Elena. I hadn't even thought that it might be illegal in this state

(WA). I just did a quick search, and there are exemptions, and (at first

glance) no requirement until school age (and exemptions for that as well).

The first physician I chose for dd was an alternative physician. On day 5 of

her life we had a scare, and he showed himself to be completely unfamiliar with

newborn care (we say he 'punted' us to the ER - $$$$ to find out she was

fine....). I decided I needed a pediatrician that could assess more rapidly and

accurately, but the vaccine conversation I have tomorrow will be very telling.

The alternative MD probably would not have blinked, but the ped may have some

qualms. Thank you for mentioning that. I do need to get prepared.

Thank you for all of the introductions! I am so pleased to be a part of this

list group.

Racheal

mother of a

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Hello,

My name is Racheal, and I am mother to 10 week old (today!) daughter.

I did not do any research on vaccines until recently, and am very upset at

myself for not paying attention sooner. I allowed the first dose of the Hep B

vaccine to be administered to dd at 2 weeks. In retrospect, that was absurd.

There is absolutely no risk to my daughter of Hep B. It is very frustrating.

Tomorrow I have the 2 mos well baby exam, and I am not going to vaccinate.

Is there a danger to not administering the 2nd dose of Hep B?

I am happy that I found this list, and am looking forward to learning a lot

about vaccines so that I can make an informed decision.

warmly,

Racheal

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Thank you Randall. I was concerned about the consequences of interupting.

A friend went to a well-baby today. The Dr told her that vaccines gave 100%

immunity. She laughed a that. She said many dr's don't even know what they

are talking about. they just believe what they are taught.

Racheal

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> Hello,

>

> My name is Racheal, and I am mother to 10 week old (today!) daughter.

>

> I did not do any research on vaccines until recently, and am very upset at

myself for not paying attention sooner. I allowed the first dose of the

Hep B vaccine to be administered to dd at 2 weeks. In retrospect, that was

absurd. There is absolutely no risk to my daughter of Hep B. It is very

frustrating.

>

> Tomorrow I have the 2 mos well baby exam, and I am not going to vaccinate.

>

> Is there a danger to not administering the 2nd dose of Hep B?

>

> I am happy that I found this list, and am looking forward to learning a

lot about vaccines so that I can make an informed decision.

>

> warmly,

>

> Racheal

>

>

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Hello Jen,

Welcome! I've been a social worker as well. Good information gathering skills

; ) is one of the bene's of SW.

Smiles,

Racheal

mother to a (10 weeks today!), and sleeping on my lap as I type (hbak)

introduction

Hello all,

Just wanted to introduce myself. I am mom to a beautiful non vaxed 13 month

old. I am very interested in this topic as I have worked as a Social Worker

with Autistic and developmentally delayed children. I do believe there is a

link between vaccinations and dev. delayed problems and autism. I'd write

more...but a 13 month old is tugging at my leg

Jen

Proud mama to Tess

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Hi Debbie,

Thank you!

Blessings,

Racheal

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Hi Racheal,

Welcome to the group! Congrats to you also on the birth of your daughter.

I'm Debbie mom to 2 sets of identical twins. They are 3 1/2 years and 18

months. All are not vaxed.

Debbie from IL

Racheal <rachealwright2@...> wrote:

Hello,

My name is Racheal, and I am mother to 10 week old (today!) daughter.

I did not do any research on vaccines until recently, and am very upset at

myself for not paying attention sooner. I allowed the first dose of the Hep B

vaccine to be administered to dd at 2 weeks. In retrospect, that was absurd.

There is absolutely no risk to my daughter of Hep B. It is very frustrating.

Tomorrow I have the 2 mos well baby exam, and I am not going to vaccinate.

Is there a danger to not administering the 2nd dose of Hep B?

I am happy that I found this list, and am looking forward to learning a lot

about vaccines so that I can make an informed decision.

warmly,

Racheal

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and there is no proof that antibody titres mean immunity.

That is another misconception promoted

Titres just indicate exposure

The immune system is way more complicated than just antibody titres.

Sheri

At 02:53 PM 06/04/2003 -0700, you wrote:

>There is no danger in stopping any series of vaccines. The worst that can

>happen is an inadequate antibody response so that antibodies do not persist.

>Of course, there are many dangers involved in continuing the vaccines.

>

>Randall Neustaedter OMD, LAc

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> Introduction

>

>

>> Hello,

>>

>> My name is Racheal, and I am mother to 10 week old (today!) daughter.

>>

>> I did not do any research on vaccines until recently, and am very upset at

>myself for not paying attention sooner. I allowed the first dose of the

>Hep B vaccine to be administered to dd at 2 weeks. In retrospect, that was

>absurd. There is absolutely no risk to my daughter of Hep B. It is very

>frustrating.

>>

>> Tomorrow I have the 2 mos well baby exam, and I am not going to vaccinate.

>>

>> Is there a danger to not administering the 2nd dose of Hep B?

>>

>> I am happy that I found this list, and am looking forward to learning a

>lot about vaccines so that I can make an informed decision.

>>

>> warmly,

>>

>> Racheal

>>

>>

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Thanks

Actually I was too flabbergasted at the time. I spoke to my doctor at home *(I'm

originally from South Africa) and he was disgusted as I was, so I did some

reseearch. It didn't help that my husband who is american pushed the issue in

the firts place and said well without them he won't get into schools etc. and

will gets sick. After I presented him with the literature, he changed his mind.

The thing is my first instinct was horror as well. Why should babies get

vaccinate particularly if they are still breastfeeding. It's no excuse but as an

immigrant I didn't know much about this procedure in the states and as officials

and my husband said it was mandatory I believed them. Well not anymore.

Anyone who is battling with this issue with their relatives stand your ground.

You're doing your child a favour.

Elena

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Welcome Elena! you sure found out fast about doctors lying! Took me much

longer!

All the best,

" Parents should decide through informed choice, which vaccines if any should

be

given to their children "

<A HREF= " http://www.vaccinetruth.org/ " > Vaccine Information</A>

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Thanks Racheal. I found it was better to be informed of my legal rights than go

into it blindly. Someone sent me school immunization record which has the

personal waiver on the back. I signed it and it just makes me feel better. It's

great that there is a such a large group supporting this issue.

Elena

Introduction

Hello,

My name is Racheal, and I am mother to 10 week old (today!) daughter.

I did not do any research on vaccines until recently, and am very upset at

myself for not paying attention sooner. I allowed the first dose of the Hep B

vaccine to be administered to dd at 2 weeks. In retrospect, that was absurd.

There is absolutely no risk to my daughter of Hep B. It is very frustrating.

Tomorrow I have the 2 mos well baby exam, and I am not going to vaccinate.

Is there a danger to not administering the 2nd dose of Hep B?

I am happy that I found this list, and am looking forward to learning a

lot about vaccines so that I can make an informed decision.

warmly,

Racheal

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Hi

I am also new to this group and am very excited to see that there is finally

a place to go to to get information and hopefully some kind of a consensus

in terms of nutritional guidelines for our bariatric patients. I work at

Wood University Hospital in New Brunswick, NJ as the

dietitian/research coordinator/exercise advisor/education coordinator ( I

wear many different hats) for a very busy laparoscopic bariatric surgery

program. We offer both RYGB and the Lap Band as options for our patients.

I look forward to offering any information I can and learning from all of

you.

Thanks, Sheila Buckley

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Hello.

My name is and I am a registered Dietitian with

Grinnell Regional Medical Center in Iowa.

My interest in this group is that I see a large number of Gastric

Bypass patients both in Pre-Op and Post-Op. I have been doing this

for a few months now, and I was just curious on how other facilities

manage this patient population. I have called the ADA and they have

not yet developed any protocol for this procedure and diet. This

facility that I work for is currently doing about ten surgeries a

week and I see about two to three pre-op patients a day as well.

This patient population requires a lot of my day so I want to make

sure that I am doing the best that I can and providing the most

accurate information.

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I would be most grateful if I could be removed from the list to receive all

further emails.

Thank you.

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Thanks

Actually I was too flabbergasted at the time. I spoke to my doctor at home

*(I'm originally from South Africa) and he was disgusted as I was, so I did

some reseearch. It didn't help that my husband who is american pushed the

issue in the firts place and said well without them he won't get into

schools etc. and will gets sick. After I presented him with the literature,

he changed his mind. The thing is my first instinct was horror as well. Why

should babies get vaccinate particularly if they are still breastfeeding.

It's no excuse but as an immigrant I didn't know much about this procedure

in the states and as officials and my husband said it was mandatory I

believed them. Well not anymore.

Anyone who is battling with this issue with their relatives stand your

ground. You're doing your child a favour.

Elena

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Welcome Elena! you sure found out fast about doctors lying! Took me much

longer!

All the best,

" Parents should decide through informed choice, which vaccines if any

should

be

given to their children "

<A HREF= " http://www.vaccinetruth.org/ " > Vaccine Information</A>

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welcome Summer.

> Hi all,

>

> I've been lurking for a bit and thought I should introduce myself.

My name

> is Summer, and I intend to start BFL a week from Monday.

>

> A dear friend of mine is doing BFL and she loves it. I've toyed

with the

> idea, but just recently decided I want to start it because my eating

is out

> of control. My grandfather is dying, so I just moved home to be

with my

> family. I'm living with my parents for the foreseeable future, and I'm

> worried about getting a job. I weigh more now then I ever have in

my life,

> and I'm feeling like food is controlling *me* instead of the other way

> around. I *hate* this feeling, so I've decided to do something

about it. I

> like the emphasis BFL puts on balance.

>

> I'm taking this next week to do serious preparation -- doing more

research

> on protein (I've been a vegetarian for 14 years, and I don't think I

could

> bring myself to eat meat), finding a new gym, etc. Does anyone have any

> suggestions on how to prepare myself? I'm researching foods, and

will have

> my entire first week's meals planned out, but I don't know what else

to do.

> When I join a gym, I imagine they'll be able to determine my body-fat

> percentage, but any help would be appreciated.

>

> I'm 23, 5'11 " and at this point I'm pretty sure I weigh around 275.

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Hi Lee,

You want a happy healthy little guy? --NO vaccines. Then, if he is a little

fusy you will know it is probably gas or he is tired, etc. and you won't have to

live with the fear that it could be the DPT frying the poor little guys brain.

The fact is vaccines are toxic poisons injected deep into the body of a tiny

infant that can't tell you how it is ravaging his body and they do NOTHING to

build immunity. Instead, vaccines hinder and interfer with the proper function

of the immune system.

Homeopathy is the way to go. Take Sheri's class if you can. Learn all you can.

And best wishes to you and your little guy.

Lynda

Introduction

Hi there,

My name is Lee. I am a new mom to a wonderful 11 week old little boy.

I have been grappling with the decision to vaccinate for some time now, as I

started researching the issue long before I even became pregnant.

Really, it boils down to the fact that I am afraid to vaccinate, but also

afraid to not vaccinate.

Fortunately, we live in British Columbia, where vaccination is not manditory

(as far as my public health nurse has led me to believe).

He is due for his 2 mo vaccines. I won't vaccinate him until I am completely

comfortable with my decision.

I am quite interested in learning about homeopathic alternatives.

Thanks!

Lee

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Welome ! I'm pretty new on here as well. Everyone on here

has been wonderful...ready to help and support one another. We're

all here for you.

Congrads with BFL! I was on the BFL program for about 3 weeks before

I stopped...due to vacation. But I will be starting up again. There

were a few things that I did and didn't do the first time that I will

change the second time around.

Where are you from?

> Hey all. I've been reading for the last couple of days and wanted

> to make a formal introduction. I've just started the Challenge for

> the first time and love it so far. It's so nice to enjoy exercise

> and be able to eat like a real person again. I've been an serious

> athlete (ran cross country in college...I'm 24) for years, and got

> so burnt out on it that I've not been doing much of anything for

the

> last several months. I'm also in recovery from anorexia and

> bulimia...and while recovery is great...I still find that having

> a " plan " to what I eat works so much better. Anyway, I'm so

excited

> to have plan and there's even a " team " again! (a wonderful group to

> support each other).

>

> I'm only on my 3rd day and all is well...but I figured I'd better

> jump in here before I decide to lurk forever!

>

> Look forward to getting to know everybody!

>

>

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Hi , I'm Dani W. There is another Dani around here somewhere,

haven't seen her post in a while. My Grandma was from Ripley MS. She

moved to IL in 1938. I've been in IL most of my life. 6 months in

Mobile AL. and I spent some time in Columbia SC when I was in the

National Guard. I'm rambling... My nick name in JH was Babble, wonder

why...

> Hey. I'm from Mississippi...

>

> M

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Anita,

Happy birthday!!! Got any big plans?? Mine is the 10th I'll be 35.

My anniversery is tomorrow -12 years!! I have no plans for either,

play it by ear.

Planning for your challange is great, You'll do excellantly!!

Dani W

> Hi, this is going to be my first challenge. Today is my birthday,

so I'm living it up a little, and then it's all business come Monday

morning. My goal is to lose 25 lbs of body fat and gain about 10

pounds of muscle. I've being doing cardio, tons of it, for about the

last 2 or 3 weeks, and I've lost about 5 lbs so far. I've also done

weights just to prepare myself with the correct form and stuff. I'm

having quite a bit of trouble with the six meals per day, but I'm

getting the hang of it gradually. Anyway, game on!

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Thanks! I'm 31. I don't have any big plans, but I am looking forward to all my

homemade gifts that my kids made for me. They are just the sweetest things,

much better than store bought. I love that kind of stuff. I think I might

treat myself to a new video card this weekend. That's the kind of gift that

makes me happy, yes, I'm a nerd. Happy early birthday to you and Happy

anniversary.

Anita

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Anita,

Happy birthday!!! Got any big plans?? Mine is the 10th I'll be 35.

My anniversery is tomorrow -12 years!! I have no plans for either,

play it by ear.

Planning for your challange is great, You'll do excellantly!!

Dani W

> Hi, this is going to be my first challenge. Today is my birthday,

so I'm living it up a little, and then it's all business come Monday

morning. My goal is to lose 25 lbs of body fat and gain about 10

pounds of muscle. I've being doing cardio, tons of it, for about the

last 2 or 3 weeks, and I've lost about 5 lbs so far. I've also done

weights just to prepare myself with the correct form and stuff. I'm

having quite a bit of trouble with the six meals per day, but I'm

getting the hang of it gradually. Anyway, game on!

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> Hi, this is going to be my first challenge. Today is my birthday,

so I'm living it up a little, and then it's all business come Monday

morning. My goal is to lose 25 lbs of body fat and gain about 10

pounds of muscle.

Happy Birthday!!! And Welcome!

Colleen

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Brandan,

Great to have you on board mate ,remember me Tony ,jimmys back to back in

algreria you dont know of any work going do you mate.

Yours aye

Tony M

>From: " brendan_oday " <brendanbod11@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Introduction

>Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 14:47:29 -0000

>

>Hi Everyone,

>

>Just a quick note to introduce myself, I think I know a number of you

>guys out there already!

>My name is n O'Day, and have been a remote medic for quite a

>few years now.

>

>I have been a subscriber in the past but have never gotten around to

>re-subscribing once the group changed to the site.

>

>Anyway, hello to all and look forward to becoming a part of the group

>again.

>

>Best Regards

>

>n

>

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Toni,

you might want to try the following

www.oilfieldmedics.com

They have several jobs on offer

regards

Neil Poole

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Brandan,

Great to have you on board mate ,remember me Tony ,jimmys back to back in

algreria you dont know of any work going do you mate.

Yours aye

Tony M

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>Reply-

>

>Subject: Introduction

>Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 14:47:29 -0000

>

>Hi Everyone,

>

>Just a quick note to introduce myself, I think I know a number of you

>guys out there already!

>My name is n O'Day, and have been a remote medic for quite a

>few years now.

>

>I have been a subscriber in the past but have never gotten around to

>re-subscribing once the group changed to the site.

>

>Anyway, hello to all and look forward to becoming a part of the group

>again.

>

>Best Regards

>

>n

>

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Toni,

E-mail me off line with your back ground.

Cheers

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>

>Subject: Re: Introduction

>Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 15:07:36 +0100

>

>Brandan,

>Great to have you on board mate ,remember me Tony ,jimmys back to back in

>algreria you dont know of any work going do you mate.

>Yours aye

>Tony M

>

>

> >From: " brendan_oday " <brendanbod11@...>

> >Reply-

> >

> >Subject: Introduction

> >Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 14:47:29 -0000

> >

> >Hi Everyone,

> >

> >Just a quick note to introduce myself, I think I know a number of you

> >guys out there already!

> >My name is n O'Day, and have been a remote medic for quite a

> >few years now.

> >

> >I have been a subscriber in the past but have never gotten around to

> >re-subscribing once the group changed to the site.

> >

> >Anyway, hello to all and look forward to becoming a part of the group

> >again.

> >

> >Best Regards

> >

> >n

> >

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Hi everyone,

I am new at this. In what I believe to me more than a coincidence, I met Chifu in NY and got turned on to this forum. The topic of discussion today is very close to my heart and I'm jumping in. My name is Mwende Edozie. I am originally from Kenya but reside in the US. During a visit to Kenya (and my village) in 2001, I was shocked by the number of AIDS-related deaths there were in Kenya. Subsequently, I found out that there were about 1.3 million orphans whose future, without intervention, was bleak. In response, I have founded a non-for-profit organization called Twana Twitu (which in my language, means "our children"). Please visit our website, if you have a chance. www.twanatwitu.com. We just recently incorporated in the US and are making lots of difference in the lives of children in my region. I look forward to exchanging ideas on how we can better serve this important but overlooked segment of our population.

Mwende

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Welcome to the group. While I dont have any great wrods of wisdome for you I

wanted to just say I can imagine how you must feel. I have a nephew with

aspergers. I think you have great concern and reason to be. I hope some of the

women here can help you in your quest. I can say I think i would have to pass on

the vaccines. If the odds are stacked against you why put full to the fire.

Welcome to the group

Amy

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Pam,

I'm glad you're out there researching this.

Hubby and I have a 17 month old and he hasn't gotten all of this shots up to

this point. We stopped all vaccinations at 15 months when we started

questioning their safety. Now I'm online doing research and trying to make a

decision about whether or not to continue...He's due for MMR, Prevnar, and DTaP.

We're leaning towards doing NO MORE vaxing.

A lot of people on this list and other lists talk about " detoxing " and improving

autistic symtoms. Have you read anything like that? There may be some

supplements that you can use to affect your older children's development. Good

luck.

Jan

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> From: Pam <mythreesons2410@...>

> Date: 2003/09/18 Thu PM 06:20:06 EDT

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