Introduction

[Guest guest]

> Introduction

>

>

> I was a past member and am rejoining. My name is Holly. I am a SAHM to

iel (9) and Jenavieve (3). My husband is Jim. We live in lower Michigan.

> iel was full vaxed. Even when he had a reaction to the flu and

chicken pox vaccines at 18 months old that landed us in children's

hospital, I did what the doctor told me to do. I hated it but didn't know

better.

> When I had my daughter, I started researching. I couldn't get my husband

on board until after our daughter had received two rounds of vaccinations.

Then he finally said no more until a year old. At a year old, I convinced

him to wait till she was two. He finally stopped asking when she is be

vaccinated. He even stands behind the decision now but I know he's not

comfortable with it.

> My mom gives me a hard time about it. I have tried giving her info but

she won't read it. She believes the doctors no matter what they say.

> I discovered my son needed a booster MMR. I signed a waiver. Last week

the health department and school have me a hard time. I did a new waiver

and a statement and all seems fine now.

> I am concerned because we live in a community with a large Amish

population. I was told that an Amish family in another state had Polio and

that the Amish families in my area had contact with the same family that

had polio.

This IS NOT true. They found polio on testing but they are not ill. They

do NOT " have " polio.

I'll send this info again to you as I sent it to the list last week.

> Both my children have asthma. My son is on singulair and it helps him.

My daughter is the sickly one. She is frequently on antibiotics for ear

infections, sinus infections and lung issues. I have tried homeopathic,

herbs and supplements. But none of it has helped them.

We really can't treat chronic things on our own. You need the help of a

good homeopath.

We are hoping to move into a different home FAST and hope that is what

helps the kids.

> My son was sickly and ADHD until he had his tonsils out a year ago. We

found out he had sleep apnea and after the tonsils came out, he is a

different kid. He and I take DMAE.

> So I try to use natural treatments first. But I also have to depend on

mainstream medication because of the asthma issues. I wish my daughter

didn't have to be on antibiotics but nothing else has helped her. I have

tried everything suggest that we can afford. She is still nursing at almost

3.5 years old.

> I guess that is my long intro.

A homeopath can really help

Welcome Holly

> ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

> Holly;

> Mommy to iel (5/96) & Jenavieve (5/02)

> My blog... http://hosier77.blogspot.com/

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sheri:

You are right. That's why medicinal drugs are the number one cause of disease in

our society today. Every medicine chest in America is plum full of drugs. Senior

citizens are especially hard hit. The first step in this battle would be to stop

political contributions to our Congressmen by the Medical Industry.

Bob Catalano

From: Sheri Nakken

Vaccinations

Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:22 AM

Subject: Re: Introduction

At 11:58 PM 10/24/2005 -0400, you wrote:

>HI Holly:

>

>In my opinion there are drugs that offer relief from various unwanted

symptoms. There are drugs that offer relief from pain and other physical

aliments. Other than that, I believe that no drug or vaccine ever ever

cured, helped to cure, prevented or helped to prevent any disease or

disorder. The 300,000 drugs and vaccines in the nations medicine chests

today are doing nothing but polluting the nations bloodstream, let alone

ruining us financially. I believe the use of drugs and vaccines In the

treatment, control and prevention of disease, will prove to be a dark

chapter in American Medicine.

>

>Bob Catalano

All drugs do is SUPPRESS - they suppress symptoms which are trying to

dissipate a disturbance. They are the outlet. If you stop the symptoms,

you drive the disturbance deeper. NO DRUGS EVER cure.

Sheri

> Introduction

>

>

> I was a past member and am rejoining. My name is Holly. I am a SAHM to

iel (9) and Jenavieve (3). My husband is Jim. We live in lower Michigan.

> iel was full vaxed. Even when he had a reaction to the flu and

chicken pox vaccines at 18 months old that landed us in children's

hospital, I did what the doctor told me to do. I hated it but didn't know

better.

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

Boniboo2002,

Welcome.

Just wanting to know how you discovered that your daughter's thyroid is no

longer functioning.

Thanks!

Sheri B. (not to be confused with the group leader, Sheri Nakken)

boniboo2002 <boniboo2002@...> wrote:

Hello!

Just a quick (but long, sorry) introduction.

I'm a working mom of two, 6 & 9; married 15 years.

My background is in healthcare, holistic until this year, now more

mainstream.

My daughter is 9. After receiving her last round of shots @ 5, she

began to deteriorate dramatically. After months of test, questions,

and a variety of symtoms, we learned that her thyroid stopped

funtioning. She was diagnosed with Auto-Immune Thyroid Disease. We

certainly believe this is a direct result of her vaccinations.

She currently battles thyroid issues and ADD symtpoms.

A few years ago, we discovered that she had heavy metal toxicity as

well.

We have not continued vaccinations for our son. He's asthmatic.

Although he's been medication free for almost a year and a half.

Our physician is an MD who specializes in immunology and

endocrinology BUT he's a nutritionist as well. The children are

treated with homeopathic, and natural supplements.

Last week, the Nurse's Office at the kids school offered flu shots

to the faculty and staff. This began another round of questions for

me regarding vaccinations. I work in the Nurse's Office, and

refused the shot.

I'm looking for continued insight as to the dangers of vaccinations!!

[Guest guest]

There is one homeopath in my area and she charges way more than we could afford.

We are a one income family and pinch pennies now.

I have worked with homeopathic online who gave suggestions. I also have a friend

who is in homeopathic who tries to help. But everything that has been tried

didn't help.

~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

Holly;

Mommy to iel (5/96) & Jenavieve (5/02)

My blog... http://hosier77.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

I don't think my son would go for acupuncture. He is terrified of needles and

will put up a fight. He doesn't care if it will hurt or not. He see's a needle

and goes into panic mode.

The kids do see a chiropractor. That has helped my daughter with ear infections

some what and my son likes it. But no real improvement health wise.

But I will check to see if our insurance covers it.

~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

Holly;

Mommy to iel (5/96) & Jenavieve (5/02)

My blog... http://hosier77.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

Well, really need a good one. Sometimes you can't afford not to have one.

But it is hard to find a good one - many now do telephone consultations and

I refer to many who do that.

Sheri

At 08:11 AM 10/25/2005 -0400, you wrote:

>There is one homeopath in my area and she charges way more than we could

afford. We are a one income family and pinch pennies now.

>I have worked with homeopathic online who gave suggestions. I also have a

friend who is in homeopathic who tries to help. But everything that has

been tried didn't help.

>~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

>Holly;

>Mommy to iel (5/96) & Jenavieve (5/02)

>My blog... http://hosier77.blogspot.com/

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

Sheri B,

How did we find out? Eek. It's a long story.....

My dd(when she was 5) had bizarre symptoms that started directly

after her kindergarden round of vaccinations: stopped eating -

litterally,not one morsal of food, lost the color in her

complextion, had dark circles under her eyes, started loosing hair -

she has hair to her waist so we didn't really think much of it,

slept through the night - went to kindergarten - came home and slept

for the rest of the day,fine motor skills decreased, coulnd't read

words on a page anymore, she stopped growing - not one inch or pound

in 6 months, she couldn't focus on any task - like brushing her

teeth.

Her diagnosis came to us as an amazing miracle. One day my son(2 at

the time) woke up and could not walk. Yes, it was scary, freaked us

out. Went to their pedicatric chiropractor. He worked on him, but

didn't see a direct cause of the problem. To make an incredible

long story slightly shorter....we took him to the pediatrician. He

felt that due to a previous illness it was possible he had toxic

tennosivitis (sp?) in his hip. So he ordered labs. I asked if he

would check my daughter for anemia - totally grasping for an answer.

The doc asked more questions and decided to check a few more

things. He called me at 9:00 that night to tell me her thyroid labs

came back and her TSH was off the charts.

It's unusual for a 5 year old to suddenly have symptoms of an

autoimmune disorder. We've been able to trace it back to her last

round of shots. Her immune system could have been slightly

compromised (or, not) and her body was totally attacked. In

addition, she exhibited signs of ADD (inattentive) a short time

after the vaccinations. Like she suddenly just wasn't there.

It took us more than 6 months to get her thryoid problem diagnosed.

I would call the ped with a complaint of a symptom. Indivually, for

a while, the symptoms could be chocked up to toddlers and kids doing

what they do to make us crazy. During those 6 months, she had NO

developement. No growth in any manner. It seems that her brain has

never recovered. She still has some processing issues.

That's the story. Whew!

boni

> Hello!

>

> Just a quick (but long, sorry) introduction.

>

> I'm a working mom of two, 6 & 9; married 15 years.

>

> My background is in healthcare, holistic until this year, now more

> mainstream.

>

> My daughter is 9. After receiving her last round of shots @ 5,

she

> began to deteriorate dramatically. After months of test,

questions,

> and a variety of symtoms, we learned that her thyroid stopped

> funtioning. She was diagnosed with Auto-Immune Thyroid Disease.

We

> certainly believe this is a direct result of her vaccinations.

>

> She currently battles thyroid issues and ADD symtpoms.

>

> A few years ago, we discovered that she had heavy metal toxicity

as

> well.

>

> We have not continued vaccinations for our son. He's asthmatic.

> Although he's been medication free for almost a year and a half.

>

> Our physician is an MD who specializes in immunology and

> endocrinology BUT he's a nutritionist as well. The children are

> treated with homeopathic, and natural supplements.

>

> Last week, the Nurse's Office at the kids school offered flu shots

> to the faculty and staff. This began another round of questions

for

> me regarding vaccinations. I work in the Nurse's Office, and

> refused the shot.

>

> I'm looking for continued insight as to the dangers of

vaccinations!!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Holly,

Same for my son. I'm working on him.

I just know that every single intervention we tried w/my daughter

just didn't quite work. Helped some, but not totally.

Some acupuncturists or chiropractors have a non-needle technique

that might be worth looking into.

boni

>

> Bonnie,

> I don't think my son would go for acupuncture. He is terrified of

needles and will put up a fight. He doesn't care if it will hurt or

not. He see's a needle and goes into panic mode.

> The kids do see a chiropractor. That has helped my daughter with

ear infections some what and my son likes it. But no real

improvement health wise.

> But I will check to see if our insurance covers it.

> ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~

> Holly;

> Mommy to iel (5/96) & Jenavieve (5/02)

> My blog... http://hosier77.blogspot.com/

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

bicharjulien wrote:

> Guess which designer perfume these ingredients belong to?

>

> INGREDIENTS: ALCOHOL. PARFUM (FRAGRANCE). BENZYL SALICYLATE. LIMNENE.

> HYDROXY CITRONELLAL. EUGENOL. LINALOOL. GERANIOL. COUMARIM. HEXYL CINNAMAL.

> CITRONELLOL. BENZYL BENZOATE. HYDROXYISOHEXYL 3. CYCLOHEXENE CARBOXALDEHYDE.

> CINNAMYL ALCOHO. EVERNIA FURFURACEA EXTRACT. BENZYLE ALCOHOL. EVERNIA

> PRUNASTRE EXTRACT. CITRAL.

> ISOEUGENOL. BENZYL CINNAMATE. AMYL CINNAMAL.

>

>

> Since march 11, 2005 the ingredients of all cosmetics, and that includes

> perfumes, sold within the EU have to be labeled on the packaging (the 7th

> amendment of the European directive on cosmetics). The very Honorable

> Monsieur YSL who always claimed that only natural ingredients were used in

> his formulas, sorry I meant compositions, is probably having a nervous

> breakdown and is in need of aromatherapy. Sadly enough this perfume contains

> 20 out of the 26 dangerous chemicals the EU lightly calls allergens that

> cosmetic manufacturers have to print on the packaging if they are in the

> product. Switzerland is still debating whether it should do the same.

>

> Hi, my name is n and I just joined the group. The group came to my

> attention because I am very allergic to almost all commercial perfumes on

> the market.

You do realize that limonene, eugenol, linalool, geraniol, coumarin,

citronellol, citral, and isoeugenol are found in natural essential oils

and generally isolated from them, right? Some of the others may be as

well, but I can't speak to that. Evernia furfuracea and prunastri are

mosses (the latter is oakmoss).

Phrases like " dangerous chemicals the EU lightly calls allergens " make

you sound like a chemophobe. Do you know which of these " dangerous "

chemical(s) you're allergic to? Have you done any kind of testing? Or

are you just assuming that anything with a chemical-sounding name must

be some horrible artificial lab-created poison?

Would you like a refreshing glass of potentially-fatal dihydrogen

monoxide? *laughs*

Personally, I think the EU legislation, and paranoid industry watchdogs

like the IFRA, are ridiculous. Perfumes have the potential to be

allergenic or sensitizing whether they contain synthetics or not, and

forcing manufacturers to list relatively innocuous ingredients in order

to warn consumers is on par with forcing food companies to put the

warning " may contain peanuts " on a jar of peanuts.

-Xplo

[Guest guest]

bicharjulien wrote:

> Guess which designer perfume these ingredients belong to?

>

> INGREDIENTS: ALCOHOL. PARFUM (FRAGRANCE). BENZYL SALICYLATE. LIMNENE.

> HYDROXY CITRONELLAL. EUGENOL. LINALOOL. GERANIOL. COUMARIM. HEXYL

CINNAMAL.

> CITRONELLOL. BENZYL BENZOATE. HYDROXYISOHEXYL 3. CYCLOHEXENE

CARBOXALDEHYDE.

> CINNAMYL ALCOHO. EVERNIA FURFURACEA EXTRACT. BENZYLE ALCOHOL. EVERNIA

> PRUNASTRE EXTRACT. CITRAL.

> ISOEUGENOL. BENZYL CINNAMATE. AMYL CINNAMAL.

>

>

> Since march 11, 2005 the ingredients of all cosmetics, and that includes

> perfumes, sold within the EU have to be labeled on the packaging (the

You do realize that limonene, eugenol, linalool, geraniol, coumarin,

citronellol, citral, and isoeugenol are found in natural essential oils

and generally isolated from them, right? Some of the others may be as

well, but I can't speak to that. Evernia furfuracea and prunastri are

mosses (the latter is oakmoss).

Xplo

Greetings n,

Glad to see you came to explore the Natural end of the spectrum. I felt I

should add a note here about some of these aromatics, and say that yes many of

these can be found in natural source as well as synthetic. Where the problem

occurs in the commercial market is when the dollar gets in the way.

For example lets say I am making a white flower composition and I feel

Dimethyl Anthranilate is going to give the compound that little something I am

looking for, I would of course use the Natural source material, and pay the

850.00 per pound. Now the big company that is putting out thousands of gallons

of the compound to create a similiar end result would opt for the synthetic

version at 5.80 per pound.

The bottom line here literally, is natural verses synthetic and you can be

assured that allergies will be rampant in the use of synthetics. Perhaps the EU

should take the time to modify there ruling to state on these labels whether or

not each component is naturally derived or synthetically produced, this would

add more clarity in general. But the downside would be the icreased cost in

selling a product that is accopanied by a book to explain what is in the

product.

Virtually all aroma chemicals and even essential oils can be created

synthetically, and the only time that it really is avoided is when it is cheaper

to use a natural. Those who want a better product will pay the price to obtain

natural source materials, and true to form it will show in the end result.

Be Well ~

[Guest guest]

> > Guess which designer perfume these ingredients belong to?

> >

> > INGREDIENTS: ALCOHOL. PARFUM (FRAGRANCE). BENZYL SALICYLATE. LIMNENE.

> > HYDROXY CITRONELLAL. EUGENOL. LINALOOL. GERANIOL. COUMARIM. HEXYL

CINNAMAL.

> > CITRONELLOL. BENZYL BENZOATE. HYDROXYISOHEXYL 3. CYCLOHEXENE

CARBOXALDEHYDE.

> > CINNAMYL ALCOHO. EVERNIA FURFURACEA EXTRACT. BENZYLE ALCOHOL. EVERNIA

> > PRUNASTRE EXTRACT. CITRAL.

> > ISOEUGENOL. BENZYL CINNAMATE. AMYL CINNAMAL.

> >

> >

> > Since march 11, 2005 the ingredients of all cosmetics, and that includes

> > perfumes, sold within the EU have to be labeled on the packaging (the 7th

> > amendment of the European directive on cosmetics). The very Honorable

> > Monsieur YSL who always claimed that only natural ingredients were used in

> > his formulas, sorry I meant compositions, is probably having a nervous

> > breakdown and is in need of aromatherapy. Sadly enough this perfume contains

> > 20 out of the 26 dangerous chemicals the EU lightly calls allergens that

> > cosmetic manufacturers have to print on the packaging if they are in the

> > product. Switzerland is still debating whether it should do the same.

> >

> > Hi, my name is n and I just joined the group. The group came to my

> > attention because I am very allergic to almost all commercial perfumes on

> > the market.

>

> You do realize that limonene, eugenol, linalool, geraniol, coumarin,

> citronellol, citral, and isoeugenol are found in natural essential oils

> and generally isolated from them, right? Some of the others may be as

> well, but I can't speak to that. Evernia furfuracea and prunastri are

> mosses (the latter is oakmoss).

>

> Phrases like " dangerous chemicals the EU lightly calls allergens " make

> you sound like a chemophobe. Do you know which of these " dangerous "

> chemical(s) you're allergic to? Have you done any kind of testing? Or

> are you just assuming that anything with a chemical-sounding name must

> be some horrible artificial lab-created poison?

>

> Would you like a refreshing glass of potentially-fatal dihydrogen

> monoxide? *laughs*

>

> Personally, I think the EU legislation, and paranoid industry watchdogs

> like the IFRA, are ridiculous. Perfumes have the potential to be

> allergenic or sensitizing whether they contain synthetics or not, and

> forcing manufacturers to list relatively innocuous ingredients in order

> to warn consumers is on par with forcing food companies to put the

> warning " may contain peanuts " on a jar of peanuts.

>

> -Xplo

>

The only problem is that these ingredients are the man made versions of the real

thing and since they are not perfect they have side effects. I am not allergic

to any of the EO I*ve tried so far (about 30 of them). I am on the other hand

allergic to the senthetic versions of most of the isolates in them. n

[Guest guest]

bicharjulien wrote:

>

>

>

>>You do realize that limonene, eugenol, linalool, geraniol, coumarin,

>>citronellol, citral, and isoeugenol are found in natural essential oils

>>and generally isolated from them, right? Some of the others may be as

>>well, but I can't speak to that. Evernia furfuracea and prunastri are

>>mosses (the latter is oakmoss).

>

> The only problem is that these ingredients are the man made versions of the

real thing

That's not a problem at all, because it's the same exact chemical no

matter what its origin. If you are allergic to eugenol, for instance,

then you will also be allergic to clove bud oil, which is primarily

composed of eugenol. If you are not allergic to clove bud oil, then

neither are you allergic to synthetic eugenol. If anything, you are MORE

likely to have an adverse reaction to the natural product simply because

it has a number of constituents not present in the isolate, thereby

increasing the chance that one or more of them will affect you.

As you are probably aware, modern mainstream perfumes are typically

composed of dozens of aroma chemicals. It's quite possible that you are

allergic to one of the more common ones. But to refer to all those

isolates as " dangerous chemicals " when they're the same as the

ingredients in your favorite essential oils is just silly.

-Xplo

[Guest guest]

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:53:21 -0700, you wrote:

> >>You do realize that limonene, eugenol, linalool, geraniol, coumarin,

> >>citronellol, citral, and isoeugenol are found in natural essential oils

> >>and generally isolated from them,

Moot point. Lack of understanding of the regulations.

Limonene in most " fine " fragrance, if not all, including personal care products

comes from naturals in the product.

The label reports the chemical content, not the source, so all the limonene

comes from natural ingredients.... The label does not mention Bergamot, Lemon,

Orange, etc, only the total limonene content is above the limit, and thus

reportable on the label. Maybe some are allergic to labels?

-= ß =-

_______________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

At 10:32 AM 10/28/2005, you wrote:

>

> Since march 11, 2005 the ingredients of all cosmetics, and that includes

>perfumes, sold within the EU have to be labeled on the packaging (the 7th

>amendment of the European directive on cosmetics).

Welcome to the group, n. You will find links to this amendment, and

other relevant information, in our Files section. HTH

Anya

http://.com

The premier site on the Web to discover the beauty of Natural Perfume

" The Age of the Foodie is passé. It is now the Age of the Scentie. "

[Guest guest]

At 10:32 AM 10/28/2005, you wrote:

>

> Since march 11, 2005 the ingredients of all cosmetics, and that includes

>perfumes, sold within the EU have to be labeled on the packaging (the 7th

>amendment of the European directive on cosmetics).

Welcome to the group, n. You will find links to this amendment, and

other relevant information, in our Files section. HTH

Anya

http://.com

The premier site on the Web to discover the beauty of Natural Perfume

" The Age of the Foodie is passé. It is now the Age of the Scentie. "

[Guest guest]

________________________________

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of misslotus78

Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 7:07 PM

Subject: Introduction

Hello,

I have taken quite a long time to introduce myself.

I work in R & D for a small natural perfumery in Venice CA. Coming

from

a scientific backround, I have fallen in love with natural perfumery

through the experience of blending and distilling some of our oils.

I

have not had much time to get involved with the natural perfumery

group and hope to do so in the future. It is great to see that there

are people as passionate about naturals as we are.

Thank you all for your time.

Warm regards,

Odegaard

Hi , :-) Nice to see you here. Take time to peruse the archives;

you will find aromatic gems there.

Be well,

Marcia Elston, Samara Botane, http://www.wingedseed.com/katrina.htm

" First of all, cultivate a contented spirit; a garden is a good place to

begin. "

[Guest guest]

At 10:07 PM 12/12/2005, you wrote:

>Hello,

>I have taken quite a long time to introduce myself.

>I work in R & D for a small natural perfumery in Venice CA. Coming from

>a scientific backround, I have fallen in love with natural perfumery

>through the experience of blending and distilling some of our oils. I

>have not had much time to get involved with the natural perfumery

>group and hope to do so in the future. It is great to see that there

>are people as passionate about naturals as we are.

>Thank you all for your time.

Hi

Thanks for introducing yourself. Can you tell us a little bit about your

day-to-day duties in R & D?

Since so many of us do our own R & D, and that may be slapdash, someone with

a scientific background could help us by sharing their experiences.

Anya

http://.com

The premier site on the Web to discover the beauty of Natural Perfume

/

Join to study natural perfumery

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[Guest guest]

Hi Anya,

I have a scientific backround in chemistry and molecular/micro biology. This

job in perfumery is a bit of a 180 degrees away from what I have been used to,

except from the distilling and processing- rather a blessing. It is fun to work

out and try new technigues for extractions and distillations. It is also great

to learn of the traditional techniques as there is much knowledge to gain.I hope

to share more...

[Guest guest]

At 09:58 PM 12/13/2005, you wrote:

>Hi Anya,

> I have a scientific backround in chemistry and molecular/micro biology.

> This job in perfumery is a bit of a 180 degrees away from what I have

> been used to, except from the distilling and processing- rather a

> blessing. It is fun to work out and try new technigues for extractions

> and distillations. It is also great to learn of the traditional

> techniques as there is much knowledge to gain.I hope to share more...

Sounds like a lot of fun, . Most of us do not have access to

distillation equipment, and our extractions tend to be tincturing and

infusing fresh botanicals that are not generally available in the

marketplace. Have fun cruising the archives, and in the meantime, can you

tell us anything extraordinary you've observed in the " new techniques "

(company secrets excepted, of course ;-)

Anya

http://.com

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At 09:26 AM 12/21/2005 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi,

>

>I'm , and I've been on this list before.

>

>I've got two children, a son aged 1 and a daughter who is 6.

>

>My daughter has had all the vaccinations, my son had the first batch but

>almost certainly won't be having MMR. I am pretty sure I don't want him to

>have it, DH did want him to (which is why I joined this list so I could get

>things for him to read) though last night he said he's not bothered about

>him giving it a miss. My Mum has always been pro-vaccine but she's now

>changed her mind and said she thinks there is no point in messing around

>with his body (she says what I want her to hear I think!)

>

>Either way, I need to make a final decision about what we're going to do re

>MMR and whether to get him the single mumps vaccine when he's older (before

>puberty) if it's available and if there are any issues with that single

>vaccine and what we can do if it's not available.

>

>

MUMPS is NOT a huge issue even after puberty although you would think its

the end of the world.

I'll send info

Sheri

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ....<waving madly>

Sue

> > introduction

> >

> >

> >Hi,

> >

> >I'm , and I've been on this list before.

> >

> >I've got two children, a son aged 1 and a daughter who is 6.

> >

> >My daughter has had all the vaccinations, my son had the first batch but

> >almost certainly won't be having MMR. I am pretty sure I don't

> >want him to

> >have it, DH did want him to (which is why I joined this list so

> >I could get

> >things for him to read) though last night he said he's not bothered about

> >him giving it a miss. My Mum has always been pro-vaccine but she's now

> >changed her mind and said she thinks there is no point in messing around

> >with his body (she says what I want her to hear I think!)

> >

> >Either way, I need to make a final decision about what we're

> >going to do re

> >MMR and whether to get him the single mumps vaccine when he's

> >older (before

> >puberty) if it's available and if there are any issues with that single

> >vaccine and what we can do if it's not available.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

,

Welcome to the group.I hope you would enjoy the various and relevant topics

our co medics have around the globe.

Fair winds,

Felix

Ziegman <ziegmann@...> wrote:

Hello all,

My name is Ziegman, I'm a Paramedic from the U.S. and have been in

the remote industrial field for a relatively short time. I started in

Emergency Medicine about 10 years ago as a US Army Medic assigned to the ER

(A & E) in a regional hospital. While in I attended Paramedic school and when

I got out I worked for a year in a busy ER in a major metropolitan area.

Following that was 2 years of ambulance duty. From there I moved to Alaska

and worked as a Flight Medic doing fixed wing Critical Care and remote evec

transport. After about 1 year doing that I spent 2 years in this line of

work at a pumping station 20 mile north of the Arctic Circle on the

Trans-Alaska Pipeline. The Medevac company hired me away from the Line to

open their first satellite station in Southeast Alaska, which I ran and

continued to fly full time until November of 05. I took a position with

Frontier Medical in December and at the moment am on a seismic boat.

I'm very interested in talking with others in the industry and am always

keen to stimulate the mind. If you're ever bored, drop me an email.

Has any thought been given to a topic of the week/moth/until interest runs

out? I'd like to hear the way others would approach certain complaints.

Look forward to browsing the site,

[Guest guest]

> He gave me a beaver castor that he got

> from his father in 1969, it is that old if not older. He says he

> crunches it up with a pliers and that it makes good bait for

> trapping ! It smells like musty amber, just beautiful. It is about

> 5 inches long and very hard, and I'm not sure how I would use it.

> Any advice.

> Della

>

Hi Della, and welcome!

You could try tincturing some in perfumer's alcohol. Grind it up and

macerate it for maybe 2 weeks, shaking now and then. then let it age

for 2-3 months. I read this in Arctander.

-linda

the Perfumer's Apprentice

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello everyone,

> My name is Della and I am a soap maker>

Hi Della,

I believe we have met (at the wpg. folk fest.) You and your twin chose

a couple Virgo pendants I made in exchange for some of your lovely

soap. I really enjoyed your " Raw Sugar " soap. My housesitter ended

up using almost all of it. Hope we cross paths again.

[Guest guest]

Welcome back !!! I went to the NDSS in Arizona - not sure what year

though. I remember your name, just trying to place you with your old screen

name/address.

Introduction

> Hello, I just thought I would introduce myself as I am a returning

> member to this group after 7+years. My name is and my son

> Garrett is 9 years old and has Down syndrome. I have 2 older

> children both 12 and (my step-daughter)Katelyn. I am

> married to a wonderful man, Chuck, (we will be celebrating our 5

> year anniversary next month). Garrett is in the 2nd grade and is

> fully included in our neighborhood school (not without its

> challenges and brick walls that need knocking down on a regular

> basis!!) I work as a consultant in the state of MA working with

> state agencies, legislators, and families to promote positive public

> policies around disability issues. I am also an educational

> advocate. I worked for 5 years as a family support coordinator,

> helping families access public and private services to help families

> live rewarding lives in their communities.

>

> I am excited to be back in the loop with this board and look forward

> to getting and giving support and information.

>

> If there is anyone on the board who attended the NDSC conference in

> Arizona in 1997 please get in touch with me. We had a group that

> would chat online and we met at the conference. I would love to

> hear how you are doing. I have video and pictures from our trip and

> think of all of you fondly when I look back at that life changing

> trip.

>

> Thanks for letting me (re)introduce myself.

>

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