Introduction

September 29, 2006

At 05:37 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote:

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > My name is Eva and I live in Ireland with my husband and 2 year old

> > daughter,

>Well how're ya Eva agus ta failte!

>(Irish for welcome for all of you *non* Irish members, GLOAT

>We're thin on the ground in this group, although I think Anya our

>lovely group Mother has a bit of the old Irish stock in her boy!!!

Speak English, woman! Not that I do all the time, cat baby talk is big in

my house.

Hey, that reminds me to ask -- who distills aromatics in Ireland besides

Burren? Do they sell the essences, or just the finished perfumes? I do miss

their old website, it was so pretty and inviting, don't like the new one

--- brrr!

Anya

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September 29, 2006

At 06:01 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote:

> OT

>ruth wrote:

> > We're thin on the ground in this group, although I think Anya our

> > lovely group Mother has a bit of the old Irish stock in her boy!!!

>

>I actually wrote that,it looks so nuts, but it is to be said with an

>Irish accent...a bit o' the aoul Irish shtock in her baye! It does not

>mean in her 'boy' HA HA HA I crack myself up!

Now I'm afraid to ask whay baye is.

Anya

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November 18, 2006

Hi Lori

Welcome

Visiting my parents right now in Tucson!

The homeopath I usually recommend here in Tucson isn't taking new patients

at present.

Many just stop seeing PEDS - mostly the visits are for vaxes anyway

Welcome

Sheri

listowner

At 11:44 PM 11/18/2006 EST, you wrote:

>Hello all, happy to be here finally!

>

>I'm Lori, from Tucson, AZ. I have 1 child, who turned 10 months old

>yesterday. I'm a SAHM, spending my time trying to keep up with has

his

>works hard at exploring his world.

>

>My story is boring really....nothing too exciting.

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November 19, 2006

Wahh. Go figure. There's several I have in mind here in Tucson....may I

ask which one isn't taking new patients? You can email me privately if need

be.

You're right about the stupid doctors visits....vaxes are ALL they are for.

I'm paranoid about CPS though.....I do it for a paper trail so in case for

some odd reason my parenting decisions about no vaxing and refusing certain

forms of medical treatments come back to haunt me, they can see that yes, I

care about my son. That's the only reason why I've taken him, however wrong

that reasoning may be lol.

Lori

Tucson, AZ

November 19, 2006

Lori,

Welcome!

I'm curious as to what other " hooey " your pediatrician is suggesting. Would

you mind sharing? I know most of them love to just throw meds around for

nothing.

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December 14, 2006

Natasha,

I myself live in canada and you DO NOT have to immunize. non of my

nieces and nephews are and the still attend regualr school. the only

thing is if an outbreak of something occurs they will be pulled from

school. I myself will not be vaccinating my son when he is born in

jan. do not let them bully you you do have rights!!!!

nicci

Canada

HEALTH CANADA STATEMENT ON IMMUNIZATION

" Unlike some countries, immunization is not mandatory in Canada; it

cannot be made mandatory because of the Canadian Constitution. Only

three provinces have legislation or regulations under their health-

protection acts to require proof of immunization for school

entrance. Ontario and New Brunswick require proof for diphtheria,

tetanus, polio, measles, mumps, and rubella immunization. In

Manitoba, only measles vaccination is covered. It must be emphasized

that, in these three provinces, exceptions are permitted for medical

or religious grounds and reasons of conscience; legislation and

regulations must not be interpreted to imply compulsory

immunization. "

Ontario

Current Statutes & Laws (English):

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/DBLaws/Statutes/English/90i01_e.htm

Current Statutes & Laws (French):

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/DBLaws/Statutes/French/90i01_f.htm

Medical, Religious & Philosophical

Vaccine exemption forms can be obtained from your local health

department. Ask for form #2. This needs to be filled out, and

notarized and given to your child's school. Parents are advised to

retain a copy for their own files, as schools often lose the forms,

and the process then has to be repeated. Form #2 can be accessed in

PDF format at: (.pdf) http://www.vran.org/docs/form-2.pdf

>

> Hi!

>

> My name is Natasha (aka Tash), I am WOHM to lovely Kiera who is

now 29

> months and still breastfeeding.

>

> I partook in some vaccinations until Kiera was 18 months of age

and have

> stopped since to research the issue further. So I am hoping to

learn a lot

> from this list in that respect. I'd also like to know if there is

anything I

> can do to reverse the effects of the vaccines that she has had on

her immune

> system?

>

> I would also like some information on Hep B and our rights to not

vaccinate

> for it in Canada.

>

> I was born in Guyana, the entire family carries Hep B as a result

some have

> developed immunity others, including me, have not but I carry

perfect

> balance of antibodies while not fully immune. It meant when Kiera

was born

> that under Public Health and the Communicable Disease Act I was

told I had

> to vaccinate her which didn't make a lot of sense to me because I

have never

> been vaccinated and am fine.

>

> After the first round of vaccinations (three shots), which I late

found out

> contained pediatric levels of mercury in them Kiera was not

immune and

> they began another round of a different vaccine.... I actually

stopped this

> after the first dose of three when I found out about the mercury

and she

> hasn't had any since. No one in family has been adversely affected

by their

> exposure so I tend not to worry about Kiera but the Doctor's keep

saying we

> have just been " lucky " to date.

>

> I have also refused Public Health's repeated requests to have her

immune

> status checked now. My Doctor has indicated this could lead to the

Canadian

> equivalent of CPS' intervening. If there is anyone Canadian here -

do you

> know what my rights are in this situation?

>

> Thanks so much,

>

> Tash

>

December 20, 2006

At 02:37 PM 12/16/2006, you wrote:

>Hi All,

>

>My name is Mel (female) and I wanted to thank the moderators for letting

>me join the group.

>

>I am a " newbie " perfumer I've just received my first batches of EOs, but

>they are still in the boxes awaiting the holidays. I'm sooo anxious to

>get started formulating though!

Hi Mel

Welcome to the group, just catching up on answering new members who

posted intros.

Re: your perfume creations...Don't forget to get concretes and

absolutes -- IMO, they're necessary to create true perfumes. EOs are

great, but you may wind up with something more like an aromatherapy

blend, which can be beautiful, but not a perfume as we define it.

>I am interested in aromatherapy as well as perfumes. I had migraines for

>several years and peppermint oil EO " cured " them. Exploring the healing

>aspects of EOs is a priority as well as the lovely scents.

You should check out group

oils_herbs_etc/ and Stacey's

ATFE/ for more AT chat.

>I've been fascinated by the discussion on distilling and wish I could

>see one up close and personal (grin).

Well, here in Florida we have a lot of liquor distilleries, but I

don't think that'll fill the bill! I wish I knew where they pressed

citrus rinds for EO here, I'd like to check that out. I guess in the

Central part of the state, near where you are, maybe Haines City area?

Anya McCoy

Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://anyasgarden.com

Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://artisannaturalperfumers.org

Natural Perfumers Community Group

/

December 20, 2006

> Re: your perfume creations...Don't forget to get concretes and

> absolutes -- IMO, they're necessary to create true perfumes.

I have a couple of resins to start as well. I do have oakmoss absolute

and a sample of Jasmine abs as well. I'll look for more abs and

concretes to round off my organ. Thanks for the tip!

> You should check out group

> oils_herbs_etc/

> <oils_herbs_etc/> and Stacey's

> ATFE/

> <ATFE/> for more AT chat.

Thank you! I will check out the groups.

> Well, here in Florida we have a lot of liquor distilleries, but I

> don't think that'll fill the bill! I wish I knew where they pressed

> citrus rinds for EO here, I'd like to check that out. I guess in the

> Central part of the state, near where you are, maybe Haines City area?

Gee, I didn't know we had a lot of liquor distilleries. Maybe that's a

good thing! LOL!

I live in Deltona, which is half way between Orlando and Daytona Beach.

I'm not near Haines City.

There used to be some kind of huge orange processing facility in Orlando

downtown area. I'd drive into work on I-4 and the smell would sicken me.

It was really nasty. They were processing orange juice concentrate

back then (80's)and who knows what else. I don't believe they are in

operation any longer.

There is still an area in Clermont where some oranges are grown, where

the Citrus Tower is. Perhaps they process the EOs there.

Mel

December 21, 2006

> I am Raven, a practicing solitary Wiccan in Denver, Colorado and will be

> 51 in January.

>

> I finally have the time to pursue some of my interests, so I am starting

> to explore candlemaking, making soap and body care products, and scent

> blending, so I am slowl;y but surely purchasing things I need to get

> started.

>

> I work online doing Tarot readings, dream interpretations, and tutoring

> others who are truly interested in Wicca, as I am alos an ordained

> minister. The use of scent is very i mportant in ritual construction.

> I feel that learning how to use scent more effectively fits perfectly

> with my spirituaI path. I also work part time with emotionally

> disturbed and other special needs students.

Welcome Raven! I had to reply specifically because from your bio we have a lot

in common, including an obvious affection for a certain highly

intelligent black bird. :-) I agree completely about the power of scent,

especially in spiritual work. I don't have the skill of many members of this

list and at the moment my creations are all-natural room sprays, not proper

perfumes, but someday, with what I learn here, that'll change. I'm also a

color therapist and all the color therapy systems I use (both ColourWorks and

Aura-Soma) incorporate scent very prominently.

I hope you enjoy the list! Oh, and check out the archive of recent messages for

Marcia's message last night on Winter Solstice. It was lovely and

included some facts even I didn't know (I'm a bit of a research hound).

Beth

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December 23, 2006

At 09:34 AM 12/22/2006, you wrote:

>I hope I'm posting this correctly. I'm not sure of the format of this

>forum. I am happy to have found this group, as I have decided to make

>a commitment to myself to get serious about the art of natural

>perfume. I also paint, draw and make jewelry. I am looking for help

>finding courses of online study in aromachology and natural

>perfumery. Can anyone make recommendations? I am also looking for an

>online supplier of EOs, concretes and absolutes and I would like to

>hear about your favorites. I would like to thank the group leader for

>this wonderful community and just let you all know how happy I am to

>be here.

Hi

Welcome to the group. When you signed on, you got a welcoming

statement that steered you towards the archives, file and links. I'm

sure you can find the answers to your search questions there. After

you cruise through there, if you need more clarification, you can

post with more specific questions.

Anya McCoy

Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://anyasgarden.com

Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://artisannaturalperfumers.org

Natural Perfumers Community Group

/

December 23, 2006

> >I hope I'm posting this correctly. I'm not sure of the format of this

> >forum. I am happy to have found this group, as I have decided to make

> >a commitment to myself to get serious about the art of natural

> >perfume. I also paint, draw and make jewelry. I am looking for help

> >finding courses of online study in aromachology and natural

> >perfumery. Can anyone make recommendations?

Hi Jessie,

Welcome to the group, I am one of the moderators here. Let me tell you

that you are in the right place to learn about natural perumery. Here

you will find, guidance, support, advice, answers, tools, great

resources and wonderful comradery. If you are looking for a good

course recommendation I am doing Mandy Aftels Level 1 course

http://www.aftelier.com/perfumeworkbook.html.

actually I am getting ready to submit my work for grading. I highly

recommend the course. I recommend getting the workbook and the kit of

essences. It's something about the way the course is laid out, it's

very simple and it takes commitment and hard work but follow it

strictly without trying to rush ahead and make a perfume. It all

starts to come together and make sense. IMO it's worth every single cent.

Anyway's enjoy the group, and Happy Christmas!

Ruth

http://www.whitewitch.ie

December 26, 2006

sudsup <sudsup@...> wrote: Hi -

My name is Randie and I'm soooo excited to be a part of this group.

On the up side - I've been collecting perfume bottles for over 25

years and have some amazingly beautiful antique and modern pieces.

I'll be really happy when I have some place to display and appreciate

them....

....

Randie ....

Randie ...... Hi.......

I am sure many members would love to see some of your collection of antique

and modern pieces. Anya has put up a photo gallery for items such as this

.......

Do please post up and take a look ..... and as others have welcomed new

members..... do take time out to peruse the files and many posts and links,

enjoy the on going experience... There is much to learn and continue learning in

this most extraordinary of groups....

happy boxing day

Janita

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December 31, 2006

> Hello, All!

>

> I'm a newbie, just ordering my first large batch of essential oils,

> absolutes, etc. after having played with my smaller selection fairly

> casually yet excitedly over the past few years. Instead of the simple

> bathtub, skincare, and aromatherapy-type blends, I'm ready to begin

> making real perfumes. What a fun yet laborious process it's becoming.

>

> I just learned of this group two or so days ago and am thrilled to now

> be a part of it. I hope to contribute to your inspiration as much as

> I anticipate you all will do for me. Thank you all for sharing your

> knowledge and asking your questions.

>

> And since I'm largely here to learn, I'll begin with a question.

>

> One on which I'm stumped at the moment is how to blend my interest in

> oil-based perfumes with that of tinctures. Some essences, like hyrax

> seem to only be available and usable in tincture form. But I've been

> making oil blends with no intention (so far) to switch to

> alcohol-based blends.

>

> And so came an experiment. I seem to have been successful in blending

> a few drops of hyrax tincture in a sample vial of jojoba (with

> vigorous shaking to suspend the alcohol in the wax). And then, when

> using hyrax essence in my experimentations I end up using mostly

> jojoba (maybe a drop of the ~1% dilution in jojoba) which, of course,

> blends well with jojoba and fractionated coconut oil.

>

> My idea is to make super concentrated tinctures of other materials

> (roses maybe?)...so concentrated that I can use a similar dilution

> effectively. But I'm wondering about alcohol (and the teeny bit of

> water that's contained in a high-proof alcohol) with oil or wax...

> Just what will that result in? Since I'm not a chemist,

> experimentation seems to be the answer. Maybe one of you has already

> tried this.

>

> I'm also wondering just how much plant material I might need to make a

> tincture as concentrated as I desire. The aroma strength of the

> material tinctured as well as how soluble the aromatic materials are

> in alcohol...these things will partly determine the results, I'm sure.

>

> in Austin, TX

>

Dear ,

Hello there..you should go back and read all the posts I have no idea how

many there are now but when I joined the group I did and learned an

amazing amount of info by doing so...It took me a couple of months giving

it quite a bit of my time and I have a filing cabinet with 4 file folders

for history, blending info, dilutions, and then a compilation from all of

my dear teachers along the way many that have been a part of this dear

group from its origin...wow I have learned a lot from this group!!!You may

then after reading all back posts that you'd like to work with alcohol

there is something very intriguing about it and the citrus oils bloom in

alcohol..where they don't so much in oil base. I started off with oil and

solids then moved onward to alcohol and am glad that I did. I believe

Alfred mentioned in the last couple of weeks how nice it is to add a

little spritz to the hair or lightly on the clothing..can't do that very

well with the oil base..

If you are using an oil base you can infuse the herb or flower on a low

heat in a double boiler..sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't

because of the dreadful volatility...you can leave in a jar to infuse for

6 weeks or so but almost impossible to mix the tincture with the oil and

if you have added h20 to the tincture then there is the bacteria problem

and oh what a problem...better if you have a tincture use an alcohol base

and oil infused with oil base..my quite humble opinion is that I love my

oil bases love my solids more but it wouldn't be the same without my eau

de parfum sprays..

Hope this helps and happy new year!

Lesle Faye

January 1, 2007

Thank you, Lesle!

> you should go back and read all the posts

What a lovely tip! I will do that...search for answers already given

before posting questions.

>You may then after reading all back posts that you'd like to work

>with alcohol there is something very intriguing about it and the

>citrus oils bloom in alcohol..where they don't so much in oil base.

I don't doubt the truth of your statement, and I will use your tip,

but would like to add that I have several oil-based perfumes that seem

to contain a lot of citrus oils...and no, I agree that maybe they

don't bloom AS much, but the experience is fine enough for my current

tastes. But then again, I usually don't reach for high-citrus perfumes

anyway. If I'm inspired to make one, maybe I'll switch over to alcohol

for that particular blend.

>I started off with oil and solids then moved onward to alcohol and am

>glad that I did. I believe Alfred mentioned in the last couple of

>weeks how nice it is to add a little spritz to the hair or lightly on

>the clothing..can't do that very well with the oil base..

>

Good point. Not as effective with oil (especially if it's the sort of

oil that could go rancid)...I may agree. A little on a palm with a

tad extra jojoba to facilitate distribution would do as well. I'm

guessing so since I use jojoba for shine in my hair (and I can get it

pretty evenly distributed with ease) if it's needed after doing a

vinegar rinse in place of conditioner. BTW, a vinegar (diluted) rinse

is one of the best ways to whip straw-like (which is what mine was)

hair back into shape. Throw some essential oils for hair shine,

anti-dandruff etc. in the mix and...your hair will smell and look

delightfully fresh and plump...youthful.

> If you are using an oil base you can infuse the herb or flower on a

>low heat in a double boiler..sometimes it works and sometimes it

>doesn't because of the dreadful volatility...

What about volatility could cause a problem for an infusion?...If the

container were not capped, the fragrant oils might escape???

>you can leave in a jar to infuse for 6 weeks or so but almost

>impossible to mix the tincture with the oil and if you have added h20

>to the tincture then there is the bacteria problem and oh what a

>problem...

I'll try the long infusion. Sounds like a good plan. I've got great

news from an experiment of mine... Inspired by the delighful Siam

Benzoin I recently received from Eden Botanicals, I tried an

infusion/tincture combination. And it worked very well. Here's what

I did. I first suspended (through vigorous shaking) 3 drops of

Everclear (though at some point I might switch over to a completely

water-less alcohol if I continue working with oil bases) in 25 drops

of organic jojoba (which had a fairly strong odor...stronger than that

which I purchased from Eden Botanicals last year). Once the alcohol

remained suspended for 4 hours, I decided to add 1 lg. drop-equivalent

of thick Siam Benzoin resin + 2 more drops of Everclear. My hope was

that the alcohol would dissolve the benzoin and that the alcohol would

remain suspended in the jojoba. So I shook vigorously to break up the

resin. Then I capped the sample vial. Over the next day, the resin

appeared to settle again. And so I was disappointed. But then, two

days later I opened the vial and tested the oil up top...spread it on

my skin and was rewarded handsomely with a strong mouth-watering

benzoin aroma. Then frustrated with the 'sediment', I shook up the

vial and the resin, to my surprise, blended perfectly and quickly into

the oil. From there, I just had to take another sample for my skin.

About an hour later, a tad bit of resin has settled out again, but

this time I have no fear.

>better if you have a tincture use an alcohol base and oil infused

>with oil base..my quite humble opinion is that I love my oil bases

>love my solids more but it wouldn't be the same without my eau de

>parfum sprays..

Actually, I can see what you mean about alcohol. My room and linen

fresheners need it.

Happy new year to you, too! Again, thanks for your time and help!

~

January 1, 2007

> Thank you, Lesle!

>

A dear friend Carolyn years ago told me of the group and suggested I

read all the posts and am so glad that I did...hope that you enjoy the

journey...

>

>>You may then after reading all back posts that you'd like to work

>>with alcohol there is something very intriguing about it and the

>>citrus oils bloom in alcohol..where they don't so much in oil base.

>

> I don't doubt the truth of your statement, and I will use your tip,

> but would like to add that I have several oil-based perfumes that seem

> to contain a lot of citrus oils...and no, I agree that maybe they

> don't bloom AS much, but the experience is fine enough for my current

> tastes. But then again, I usually don't reach for high-citrus perfumes

> anyway. If I'm inspired to make one, maybe I'll switch over to alcohol

> for that particular blend.

>

>>I started off with oil and solids then moved onward to alcohol and am

>>glad that I did. I believe Alfred mentioned in the last couple of

>>weeks how nice it is to add a little spritz to the hair or lightly on

>>the clothing..can't do that very well with the oil base..

>>

> Good point. Not as effective with oil (especially if it's the sort of

> oil that could go rancid)...I may agree. A little on a palm with a

> tad extra jojoba to facilitate distribution would do as well. I'm

> guessing so since I use jojoba for shine in my hair (and I can get it

> pretty evenly distributed with ease) if it's needed after doing a

> vinegar rinse in place of conditioner. BTW, a vinegar (diluted) rinse

> is one of the best ways to whip straw-like (which is what mine was)

> hair back into shape. Throw some essential oils for hair shine,

> anti-dandruff etc. in the mix and...your hair will smell and look

> delightfully fresh and plump...youthful.

>

>> If you are using an oil base you can infuse the herb or flower on a

>>low heat in a double boiler..sometimes it works and sometimes it

>>doesn't because of the dreadful volatility...

>

> What about volatility could cause a problem for an infusion?...If the

> container were not capped, the fragrant oils might escape???

I see that I didn't take enough time with this one...All of the oils are

volatile because they are natural...their volatility is in a way how we

are able to smell the essence when the oil hits the air the oxidation

reaction occurs and the oil disperses...citrus oils otr top notes the most

volatile and base notes the least..when you infuse an oil with heat it

increases its volatility and many times you loose the scent..or most of

it...why in the summer or warm weather we smell more fragrances than we

will typically in the winter...I forgot to add if you infuse an herb or

root or flower in oil make sure that it has been dried first. Any water

in oil creates bacteria and you don't want your oil based to go off and

become rancid...this is what I meant by problem with volatility but yes

uncapped container will do the same...I have a glass blower that I work

with and creating fitted jewel pieces have posed small problems in

creating perfume bottles..so we were on the same track with volatility I

was just coming from a different point sorry I wasn't more clear:).

>

>>you can leave in a jar to infuse for 6 weeks or so but almost

>>impossible to mix the tincture with the oil and if you have added h20

>>to the tincture then there is the bacteria problem and oh what a

>>problem...

>

> I'll try the long infusion. Sounds like a good plan. I've got great

> news from an experiment of mine... Inspired by the delighful Siam

> Benzoin I recently received from Eden Botanicals, I tried an

> infusion/tincture combination. And it worked very well. Here's what

> I did. I first suspended (through vigorous shaking) 3 drops of

> Everclear (though at some point I might switch over to a completely

> water-less alcohol if I continue working with oil bases) in 25 drops

> of organic jojoba (which had a fairly strong odor...stronger than that

> which I purchased from Eden Botanicals last year). Once the alcohol

> remained suspended for 4 hours, I decided to add 1 lg. drop-equivalent

> of thick Siam Benzoin resin + 2 more drops of Everclear. My hope was

> that the alcohol would dissolve the benzoin and that the alcohol would

> remain suspended in the jojoba. So I shook vigorously to break up the

> resin. Then I capped the sample vial. Over the next day, the resin

> appeared to settle again. And so I was disappointed. But then, two

> days later I opened the vial and tested the oil up top...spread it on

> my skin and was rewarded handsomely with a strong mouth-watering

> benzoin aroma. Then frustrated with the 'sediment', I shook up the

> vial and the resin, to my surprise, blended perfectly and quickly into

> the oil. From there, I just had to take another sample for my skin.

> About an hour later, a tad bit of resin has settled out again, but

> this time I have no fear.

>

>>better if you have a tincture use an alcohol base and oil infused

>>with oil base..my quite humble opinion is that I love my oil bases

>>love my solids more but it wouldn't be the same without my eau de

>>parfum sprays..

>

> Actually, I can see what you mean about alcohol. My room and linen

> fresheners need it.

>

Working with Benzoin has puzzled us all and no it doesn't dissolve in oil

and sometimes its just as irksome in alcohol..at least it has been for me.

I work with oil and alcohol and solids and I have met many perfumers that

like to work exclusively with one medium..I see you are very happy with

the oil based and it makes me smile...much of perfumery is trial and error

and experimentation sounds like you are in a very good place with where

you are and what you are learning and I promise you you won't be

disappointed by the back posts many a talented aromatic artist have shared

much and what a great forum to grow in this beautiful field...wishing you

much happiness on your journey and ask a way... many caring and helpful

people here.

Njoy,

Lesle Faye

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January 4, 2007

In a message dated 1/4/2007 7:33:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wendy_rvp@... writes:

I wanted to introduce myself. I am from Washington State.

Hi (( waving )) - where are you at in Washington? I am and also in Washington (Spokane)

I am 34, married, and have one child.

I'm 39, single mom of 3 boys (10, 12 and 14)

I just jumped back on the weight loss wagon. I have struggled with weight loss my entire life, and have been as high as 411 pounds 4 years ago.

I started June 2005 @ 310 :'(

I lost a significant amount of weight over two years and then it slowed to a stop. I am currently 266 and still need to lose another 100 pounds to be at a healthy BMI.

WOW - that is fantastic that you have lost that much weight!! Congrats and way to go!!

I have been at this weight for about one year.I have tried many diets and for now am just going to go with what I know and learned from many of those diets as far as healthy eating. I am trying to limit my calories to 1200 a day and get some form of exercise. I have started walking at work during lunch.

They say it gets harder - as you get toward the end... even in the middle. SUE, what do they say?? LOL... I don't pay attention to the rules a lot as I am not "on a diet" - I want to say have you considered increasing your calories just a bit for a few days to a week to get your metabolism to move??

This sounds wacked, but that is what they recommend to us at Curves - just enough to gain a pound or two, then decrease your calories again to get back on the losing side of things. I weigh 288 right now and sparkpeople.com recommends I have about 2000 calories a day (that seems too high, but whatever).... anyway, maybe try adding a snack or something small - don't go crazy - just an extra 100-200 calories a day for a few days and then take it back out... or increase your exercise. Something.

I love to get and share healthy snack and meal ideas. I know my biggest problem is nighttime snacking... AAAGGGHHH!

Is there something you can do at night to alleviate this snacking? Try a piece of fruit, it may curb the cravings? Or go for a small walk?? I know the past couple of days I have had a piece of fruit before dinner and notice I don't go to town eating after dinner - then again, both nights I walked a lot too... (( so wishy washy ))

I have lost 5 pounds in the week since I started this, but know I need some support system to keep me motivated.

WOoOOOOHOOOOOoooo - see?! Something is working, so getting on here and checking with us every once in a while might just be what you need.

How are dh and the kidlet? Does he (they) support your goals, needs, etc? I am sure he must (I hope) since you have already lost the size of a person!! Keep up the great work!!

January 4, 2007

- walking is the BEST way to start your exercise. You will get

stronger and stronger as you go. Make sure your walking shoes are in

good shape, and just GO for it!!!

Regarding the calorie level - 1200 sounds really low. It might be

okay as you get close to your goal weight, but I would bet almost

anything that you will find yourself REALLY hungry on that level of

calories. You want to make sure and keep your calories high enough

that your body doesn't think it is starving and get rid of muscle

instead of fat. Remember, your heart is a major muscle!

Anyway, you might want to try aiming for around 1500 calories a day or

even a little more if you start working out hard. At 266, this should

be plenty low enough to result in at least a 1-2 pound per week loss -

ON AVERAGE. Good luck!!!

>

> Hello all,

> I wanted to introduce myself. I am from Washington State... I

> am trying to limit my calories to 1200 a day and get some form of

> exercise. I have started walking at work during lunch.

> S

>

January 4, 2007

,

I agree with twinmom2701. Even though you might loose weight at the beginning faster you do not have much room to lower your calorie intake once you lost a bit of weight. STart with 1500 cal and for every 20 lb cut 50 calories....

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- walking is the BEST way to start your exercise. You will get stronger and stronger as you go. Make sure your walking shoes are in good shape, and just GO for it!!! :)Regarding the calorie level - 1200 sounds really low. It might be okay as you get close to your goal weight, but I would bet almost anything that you will find yourself REALLY hungry on that level of calories. You want to make sure and keep your calories high enough that your body doesn't think it is starving and get rid of muscle instead of fat. Remember, your heart is a major muscle!Anyway, you might want to try aiming for around 1500 calories a day or even a little more if you start working out hard. At 266, this should be plenty low enough to result in at least a 1-2 pound per week loss - ON AVERAGE. Good luck!!!>> Hello all,> I wanted to introduce myself. I am from Washington State... I > am trying to limit my calories to 1200 a day and get some form of > exercise. I have started walking at work during lunch.> S>

January 4, 2007

Wow, ,

Now that I read the whole tread.... You rock, you lost a lot of weight in the past....

I am amazed!

So, far when I lost weight it always worked best when I included walking.... Once I stop walking it's all down hill from there....

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In a message dated 1/4/2007 7:33:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wendy_rvp writes: