Introduction

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/28/01 10:19:57 AM Central Daylight Time, CKEverett

writes:

> . I will cherish the day when no parent of a child with disabilities has to

> " fight " for what they believe is best for their child.

>

>

AMEN!!!! Jessie

[Guest guest]

hi Lizz-do you have a website too?

Debbie S.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/28/01 1:35:37 PM Central Daylight Time,

sbntwong@... writes:

> . He is tho now

> the most delightful teenage one could wish for, got all that rebellion out

> of him early!!

>

> Sue Wong

>

Well, that's one blessing. But of course you know, it's ALWAYS the

mother's fault. Not the brightness, of course, but anything bad. Jessie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/28/01 1:35:37 PM Central Daylight Time,

sbntwong@... writes:

> . He is tho now

> the most delightful teenage one could wish for, got all that rebellion out

> of him early!!

>

> Sue Wong

>

Well, that's one blessing. But of course you know, it's ALWAYS the

mother's fault. Not the brightness, of course, but anything bad. Jessie

[Guest guest]

Hi Katy,

It is nice to hear from you again. ! You will enjoy this group .As I can see you have already fit in.

You missed the gathering we just had But the Rochester group will be having another lunch together this fall . We make sure we pick a day when every one can show up . The last lunch we had was in the spring and it was a lot of fun.

If anybody else wants to show up they can .

well have a nice night.

Kim

Kim Fuoco

[arsoap.com] introduction

Hi everyone.....I guess it's time that I quit lurking and introduce myself.I received an email from Kim a couple of weeks ago inviting me to join andsince then I've been so busy that I haven't taken the time to sit down andpost. My name is Katy and I have a very small soap business called NaplesCreek Soaps & Sundries. I'm located in Naples (NY of course) and mainly justsell my product at craft shows and from my website. I do have my soaps in 2gift shops (co-ops) but haven't really done wholesale yet. Soapmaking hasbeen my hobby and passion since 1998 but, unfortunately, I have a full timejob (gotta pay for those soap supplies!) that keeps me very busy as well. Ido most of my soaping on weekends but try and get a few batches in duringthose late nights in the week when I've got time to myself. I'm divorcedwith 2 daughters (12 and 16) and have been engaged for about 7 years! Myfiance' and I have been together for almost 10 years now, have built a housetogether (that we now live in) and may even be considered married by commonlaw. :-)One of these days we will have that wedding. I've been readingeveryones messages and sure wish I could have made the gathering. Soundedlike a lot of fun. I looked at the map but it's still hard to tell justwhere everyone is from. A few from Rochester maybe? I know Kim is inLeicester which isn't far from me and I drive through there everyday to goto work. I've been getting almost all of my supplies online so if anyone hasany hints on suppliers close to me (or Rochester even), I would be forevergreatful. The shipping kills me. Nice to "meet" you all!KatyNaples Creek Soaps & Sundrieswww.naplescreeksoaps.comOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

[Guest guest]

Lizz,

How is your Play going?

I have not gotten around to go over to the park yet to check things out .

Kim Fuoco

Re: introduction

SMALL WORLD!!! Yes, is my hubby! I read your note to him and he was amazed! "I know her! She's so nice!"I'm so glad you like my soap. Thimbleberry Hill is going strong! I've opened a shop on Main Street in Geneseo. I give classes out of the shop also. Right now I'm thinking of adding soaping supplies. Do you think there's enough call around here?LizzOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

[Guest guest]

I was very involved in our local DS support group when was

younger...around 1 yr. old. Basically all members had little children as it

was a newly formed group. The group fell apart after about 5-7 yrs due to

low attendance of monthly meetings. I formed some wonderful friendships and

still are very close to the original members even after the group fizzled. A

new group has formed in our area again and I attended one meeting. It was

just like the group that we used to have......all parents of children under 3

yrs old.

Then I found this place and absolutely love it because it is so chock full of

information and if I have a particular worry or problem, I can post and get

tons of help from wonderful people. Thank goodness for technology, huh? We

are all very lucky.

Jackie, Mom to 13ds, 10, and Bradley 7

[Guest guest]

I was very involved in our local DS support group when was

younger...around 1 yr. old. Basically all members had little children as it

was a newly formed group. The group fell apart after about 5-7 yrs due to

low attendance of monthly meetings. I formed some wonderful friendships and

still are very close to the original members even after the group fizzled. A

new group has formed in our area again and I attended one meeting. It was

just like the group that we used to have......all parents of children under 3

yrs old.

Then I found this place and absolutely love it because it is so chock full of

information and if I have a particular worry or problem, I can post and get

tons of help from wonderful people. Thank goodness for technology, huh? We

are all very lucky.

Jackie, Mom to 13ds, 10, and Bradley 7

[Guest guest]

Hello:

I am the co-leader of a DS Support Group in my area and our attendance has been

very low. I think alot of people forget about it, as the leader before me said

he had very few people come unless he called a few days before the meetings.

Also, we have tried changing our time to a Saturday morning instead of a week

night evening. This itself I think has helped. Right now we are also meeting

at a park so the kids can play while we have our meeting. Even though I'm not a

big outdoors fan, I have to say it has been kind of nice. Also, in a couple of

weeks we are having a picnic and I'm expecting alot more attendance for those as

they seem to be pretty popular.

We are also sometimes combining our meetings with the Autism Support Group

depending on what is going on and if we have similar issues. For instance, in

September we are having a Legislature meeting in conjunction with the Autism

Support Group. We will have at least one congressman from our area there and

are working on some more. I, luckily, don't have to coordinate this as our

local Easter Seal's Children's Developmental Center is where our DS Support

Group is through and the Parent Liasion takes care of this kind of stuff.

Well, I think that's about it. If you have any questions, please feel free to

ask.

Mommy to - 3 and Noah - 21 mos. DS

Sign up for FREE and receive CASH for filling out surveys and referring friends

up to 3 levels

http://www.surveysavvy.com/?ref_email_id=numom93097inwave

Want to win Free Cash every day? Try the newest Freebie site on the Internet

today, FreebieClub.com. The more people you tell, the more chances YOU get

for cash.

http://www.freebieclub.com//FC_myfreebies.asp?m=265416 & a=25847

Sign up and Receive $10 FREE

http://www.resource-a-day.com/members2/numom1/

[Guest guest]

Hello:

I am the co-leader of a DS Support Group in my area and our attendance has been

very low. I think alot of people forget about it, as the leader before me said

he had very few people come unless he called a few days before the meetings.

Also, we have tried changing our time to a Saturday morning instead of a week

night evening. This itself I think has helped. Right now we are also meeting

at a park so the kids can play while we have our meeting. Even though I'm not a

big outdoors fan, I have to say it has been kind of nice. Also, in a couple of

weeks we are having a picnic and I'm expecting alot more attendance for those as

they seem to be pretty popular.

We are also sometimes combining our meetings with the Autism Support Group

depending on what is going on and if we have similar issues. For instance, in

September we are having a Legislature meeting in conjunction with the Autism

Support Group. We will have at least one congressman from our area there and

are working on some more. I, luckily, don't have to coordinate this as our

local Easter Seal's Children's Developmental Center is where our DS Support

Group is through and the Parent Liasion takes care of this kind of stuff.

Well, I think that's about it. If you have any questions, please feel free to

ask.

Mommy to - 3 and Noah - 21 mos. DS

Sign up for FREE and receive CASH for filling out surveys and referring friends

up to 3 levels

http://www.surveysavvy.com/?ref_email_id=numom93097inwave

Want to win Free Cash every day? Try the newest Freebie site on the Internet

today, FreebieClub.com. The more people you tell, the more chances YOU get

for cash.

http://www.freebieclub.com//FC_myfreebies.asp?m=265416 & a=25847

Sign up and Receive $10 FREE

http://www.resource-a-day.com/members2/numom1/

[Guest guest]

> I know I don't say this enough but THANK YOU for providing this needed

arena

> for us to share

DITTO!

R.

Mom to (7, ds) and Grace (4)

[Guest guest]

> I know I don't say this enough but THANK YOU for providing this needed

arena

> for us to share

DITTO!

R.

Mom to (7, ds) and Grace (4)

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

I live in Grafton, near Alton, IL. Where did you live when you were

here?

I ask because Karrie will be the first child with ds fully included in

kindergarten here in our district. One other child was

" mainstreamed " ...in other words, she had so many pull-outs, she wasn't

really in the reg ed class much at all. Plus she had an aide velcro'd to

her side all the time.

Karrie's teacher will have an aide, to help with the whole class. Karrie

will not have any pull-outs, both OT and ST will be in reg ed classroom.

Sue mom to Kate 11 and Karrie 5 w/ds

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

I live in Grafton, near Alton, IL. Where did you live when you were

here?

I ask because Karrie will be the first child with ds fully included in

kindergarten here in our district. One other child was

" mainstreamed " ...in other words, she had so many pull-outs, she wasn't

really in the reg ed class much at all. Plus she had an aide velcro'd to

her side all the time.

Karrie's teacher will have an aide, to help with the whole class. Karrie

will not have any pull-outs, both OT and ST will be in reg ed classroom.

Sue mom to Kate 11 and Karrie 5 w/ds

[Guest guest]

I'm so thankful that we support each other in all matters of life. I'm

thankful that and Tim know how we each have other " life issues "

besides ds.

Sue mom to Kate 11 and Karrie 5 w/ds

[Guest guest]

I'm so thankful that we support each other in all matters of life. I'm

thankful that and Tim know how we each have other " life issues "

besides ds.

Sue mom to Kate 11 and Karrie 5 w/ds

[Guest guest]

Maybe you should try the naturalfamilylife group also. It is a group

as well. Some of the people here are there. It is more centered on health

issues where this group is vaccine centered.

>From: dinumber1@...

>Reply-Vaccinations

>Vaccinations

>Subject: Introduction

>Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 22:02:05 EDT

>

>Hello group, as a new member I've been asked to introduce myself. My name

>is

>Diane. I'm married to a wonderful man, Greg who lives admirably with

>multiple sclerosis. He is a pillar of strength in a weak world. We have a

>beautiful 4 year old daughter named Hanna and a mini lop eared bunny called

>Elroy (trouble for short!).

>A friend of mine has been a member of this group for sometime. Due to the

>number of medical conditions we " suffer " from she has passed on many

>articles

>and e-mails from the group. As my own confidence in the medical

>establishment has erroded she has provided links and sites that provide the

>answers the establishment would rather us not have. I was intrigued and

>wanted this information first hand.

>We didn't think twice when Hanna was born, she was vaccinated without any

>mention of potential complications, side effects and especially long term,

>life changing conditions. After reading articles from this group, I regret

>that I didn't do my " homework " on this issue. As she nears age 5 and the

>start of school, a whole slew of boosters for the poison she already has

>cursing through her body will be required. With Multiple Sclerosis,

>Diabetes, Heart Disease, Numerous Cancers not to mention the " minor " health

>issues that run in her family, I have started taking her preventitive

>health

>much more seriously. I want her to have a healthy life, she lives with

>enough disease and distress as it is. Learning more about the hazzards of

>vaccinations is therefore very important to me.

>On a personal note, I joined this group to learn about vaccinations for

>Hanna, to find out more information about Multiple Sclerosis (since Doctors

>don't know much) and to these ends I have been pleased so far. I didn't

>realize that within the first week a posting would so significantly impact

>ME. Diagnosed the vexing non-diagnosis of " irritable bowel syndrome " 3

>years

>ago and told to " learn to live with it " I have been muddling along.

>Recently, the pain has increased and so too, the other symptoms of the

> " disorder " . Today, after receiving a warning on Celiac Disease and doing

>additional research I'll be revisiting that gastro dr. for a reevaluation.

>With my husbands condition, I long ago realized that in health care, we are

>our own best advocate. No Doctor, no matter how wonderful cares as much

>about your health and well being than you do. He will do what insurance

>allows for and with you passified send you on your way. That is not

>acceptable to me. I want answers, I want information, I want knowledge. I

>love presenting the Doctor with something he doesn't know, keeps 'em human!

>I look forward to information from the group that will help us with the

>varying conditions we have as well as the other postings from the group.

> Diane

>

> " Everything comes to him who hustles while he waits " Edison

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Be sure to go to scdiet.com and to also look up Specific Carbohydrate

Diet at www.google.com.

Three days onto it and my son and I stopped having diarrhea (I went

the route of Celiac, IBS, IBD, Chrons's etc with no diagnosis or

explanation of what was causing us to have 1-3 watery stools per day).

>Diagnosed the vexing non-diagnosis of " irritable bowel syndrome " 3

years

> ago and told to " learn to live with it " I have been muddling

along.

> Recently, the pain has increased and so too, the other symptoms of

the

> " disorder " . Today, after receiving a warning on Celiac Disease and

doing

> additional research I'll be revisiting that gastro dr. for a

reevaluation.

[Guest guest]

Hi !!

Nice to meetcha!

LOVE the lil dog next to your name! Adorable!!

Hehehee

Im Sue, live in Wales in the Uk, 35 ,married with one adorable daughter -

Ruby, age 2yrs. She has been vaccinated up to but not including the MMR and

Men C jabs. She wont be having anymore vaccines. I have recently linked up

with a homeopath too but havent seen her for anything major ,thankfully.

We hope to try for another baby next year.

This group is fab! We exchange info. on alot of stuff! Some of the girls on

this list are sooo knowledgable, its great to know them!

Enjoy!

SUE

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Aren't kids great and so much better when we

know the best way to take care of them:)

We have daschunds, so that is what the little dog is

about.

I have noticed how intelligent everybody is and lots

of info. Talk to ya'll soon, shannon

--- suziesparkle <suziesparkle@...> wrote:

> Hi !!

> Nice to meetcha!

> LOVE the lil dog next to your name! Adorable!!

> Hehehee

> Im Sue, live in Wales in the Uk, 35 ,married with

> one adorable daughter -

> Ruby, age 2yrs. She has been vaccinated up to but

> not including the MMR and

> Men C jabs. She wont be having anymore vaccines. I

> have recently linked up

> with a homeopath too but havent seen her for

> anything major ,thankfully.

> We hope to try for another baby next year.

> This group is fab! We exchange info. on alot of

> stuff! Some of the girls on

> this list are sooo knowledgable, its great to know

> them!

> Enjoy!

>

> SUE

>

>

=====

< " ();::::;~

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Heidi..is your hubby at Quantico? 's boyfriend will be stationed

there once he graduates from college. I think he has to be there for 6

months, then he will be stationed somewhere else. They are hoping

Hawaii...lol!

There is a list for parents who have children with DS and live in Northern

VA here at groups. Do you know about that yet?

introduction

> hello all... just wanted to introduce myself... again. lol i was

> a member of this group, and the ds chats a few years ago. i took a

> bit of a break for a couple years, but now i'm back.

>

> my husband is in the marine corps, and we're currently stationed in

> VA, we just moved here about 5 weeks ago. i am a stay at home mommy,

> and can't wait for school to start! LOL

>

> i see many familiar faces here, and a bunch of new ones too. i look

> forward to getting back into discussions and conversations with ya'll.

>

> ~Heidi... mom to (5 yrs w/ds) and (6yrs)

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Heidi..is your hubby at Quantico? 's boyfriend will be stationed

there once he graduates from college. I think he has to be there for 6

months, then he will be stationed somewhere else. They are hoping

Hawaii...lol!

There is a list for parents who have children with DS and live in Northern

VA here at groups. Do you know about that yet?

introduction

> hello all... just wanted to introduce myself... again. lol i was

> a member of this group, and the ds chats a few years ago. i took a

> bit of a break for a couple years, but now i'm back.

>

> my husband is in the marine corps, and we're currently stationed in

> VA, we just moved here about 5 weeks ago. i am a stay at home mommy,

> and can't wait for school to start! LOL

>

> i see many familiar faces here, and a bunch of new ones too. i look

> forward to getting back into discussions and conversations with ya'll.

>

> ~Heidi... mom to (5 yrs w/ds) and (6yrs)

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/13/01 12:35:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

hrsfvr@... writes:

> We live on a farm, and have lots of animals

> also. Horses, dogs, cats, ducks, chickens, turkeys, a

> cow, plus a natural pond full of home grown fish. We

> grow a large garden and barter for meat that is

> steroid and chemical free. We also grow our own

> chickens for the purpose. They are free range. I

>

,

Welcome to the list, and when can I move in? LOL

Chelly

San Diego, CA

Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots!

" Time may be a great healer, but it's a lousy beautician. "

[Guest guest]

We can build on how many in your party:)heeeheeeIt is

great to meet you chelly(love the name)..shannon

--- Trentonsmom@... wrote:

> In a message dated 8/13/01 12:35:53 PM Pacific

> Daylight Time,

> hrsfvr@... writes:

>

>

> > We live on a farm, and have lots of animals

> > also. Horses, dogs, cats, ducks, chickens,

> turkeys, a

> > cow, plus a natural pond full of home grown fish.

> We

> > grow a large garden and barter for meat that is

> > steroid and chemical free. We also grow our own

> > chickens for the purpose. They are free range. I

> >

>

> ,

> Welcome to the list, and when can I move in? LOL

> Chelly

> San Diego, CA

> Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots!

>

> " Time may be a great healer, but it's a lousy

> beautician. "

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

=====

< " ();::::;~

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Gees, when I saw your introduction, I realized that I forgot to post an

intro myself as I'm new to the list and enjoying all the great info! ,

I think its great that you are learning about all this before you have

children! I was blessed to learn the truth about vaccinations before I had

my son, from a very painful experience with a vaccine-damaged dog. She was

selectively vaccinated - and I watched her turn into a completely paranoid

basket case right before my eyes the week after a rabies vaccination which I

had deliberately delayed and kept separate from the other puppy shots the

breeder had given her before she came to us. Rabies was the only vax I was

planning to do every 3 years (as it is the only one we had to do by law).

Needless to say, no more vaccinations for any animals in my family, and

definitely none for the humans!

Since then, I've been educating myself and reading everything I could on the

subject. I went through the list of vaccines and researched each one

individually, and in each case the risk of giving the vaccine was higher

than the risk of not giving it, at least in our case.

-JeN

--------------------------------------------------------------------

The Continuum Concept (In Search of Happiness Lost)

" If the world could be saved by a book, this just might be the book "

- Holt

http://www.continuum-concept.org/cc_defined.html

--------------------------------------------------------------------

>From: klyoung2424@...

>

>I just wanted to introduce myself to the group! I recently joined

>this group in my quest for the truth about vaccinations. I am from

>NC and plan on having kids in a couple years, and just wanted to make

>sure I knew what to do or not to do to my kids. I was confused on

>whether it was all vaccines, or just some that were questionable. I

>have alot to learn, but there certainly are alot of messages to go

>back and read from everyone, so that is what I plan on doing first!

>

> Young

_________________________________________________________________

Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp