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> For testing purposes at least, surely there must be some device that

would be adequate. Those moon suits that gov't guys use? It certainly

would be a good way to prove or disprove.

> Adrienne

No, not really.

Have to read Shoemakers description of " dissociation " .

When the immune system is damped down, the toxins dissociate from

Toll receptors and then recirculate, causing inflammation, so

amazingly enough, getting away from the source can actually make you

feel worse for quite a while.

This peculiarity convinces people that mold is surely not the

problem, or the response would have gone away when they change

locations or wear a mask.

But that's not quite how it works.

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Tylenol is STILL the SAFEST Pain med for us as long as we dont exceed 2 grams or 2000 mg PER DAY of tylenol in ALL products.. Aspirin is not good for us as it causes stomach problems and also makes the clotting less effective. Advil is ok as long as you do not exceed 1600 mg also in a 24 hour period,,, you can take BOTH each day as long as you do not exceed the 2000 mg and the 1600 mg.. unless you are allergic or something to any of the products,, WHO told you not to take tylenol? Even the drug companies who manufacture our treatment meds advocate tylenol as long as you do not exceed the above total amounts in any given day. jaxLone Wolf <nutn2it56@...> wrote: New member here, wondering what you guys take for headaches. I was diagnosed 8 years ago so I know to avoid acetomeniphen but aspirin and ibuprophen don't seem to help much.Thanks, LWJackie

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I had to take Imitrex , but that is only if its a migrane . Otherwise tylenol is the best choice .

Headaches

New member here, wondering what you guys take for headaches. I was diagnosed 8 years ago so I know to avoid acetomeniphen but aspirin and ibuprophen don't seem to help much.Thanks, LW

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how can you tell if it is a migraine or a regular headache?i get bad

headaches a lot, especially at night a few hours after my second dose

ofribaviran. sometimes tylenol or ibuprofen, or excedring does not

work for me. What is imitrex?

>

> I had to take Imitrex , but that is only if its a migrane .

Otherwise tylenol is the best choice .

> Headaches

>

>

> New member here, wondering what you guys take for headaches. I was

> diagnosed 8 years ago so I know to avoid acetomeniphen but aspirin

and

> ibuprophen don't seem to help much.

> Thanks, LW

>

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how can you tell if it is a migraine or a regular headache?i get bad

headaches a lot, especially at night a few hours after my second dose

ofribaviran. sometimes tylenol or ibuprofen, or excedring does not

work for me. What is imitrex?

>

> I had to take Imitrex , but that is only if its a migrane .

Otherwise tylenol is the best choice .

> Headaches

>

>

> New member here, wondering what you guys take for headaches. I was

> diagnosed 8 years ago so I know to avoid acetomeniphen but aspirin

and

> ibuprophen don't seem to help much.

> Thanks, LW

>

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> WHO told you not to take tylenol?

>

I think I read that it was hard on the liver and assumed it should be

avoided in any doseage. I went through treatment ( 5 million units of

Intron A 3X/week for 3 months) 8 years ago and was a non-responder,

got no advice from the quack, and did my own research on line. I've

been out of touch with people in the know for a while now so any help

is appreciated.

Thanks, LW

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Imitrex is a injected medicine that is used for migraines,, altho I do think now that they have a pill to take,, the problem with it is that IF you have any kind of vascular issues, you should NOT take Imitrex as it has been known to cause stroke.. my former step daughter had a rupture in her brain from Imitrex several years ago. It does NOT work for everyone who takes it either,, but when it does work, it works very well.richlee7 <rnewton8@...> wrote: how can you tell if it is a migraine or a regular

headache?i get bad headaches a lot, especially at night a few hours after my second dose ofribaviran. sometimes tylenol or ibuprofen, or excedring does not work for me. What is imitrex?>> I had to take Imitrex , but that is only if its a migrane . Otherwise tylenol is the best choice . > Headaches> > > New member here, wondering what you guys take for headaches. I was > diagnosed 8 years ago so I know to avoid acetomeniphen but aspirin and > ibuprophen don't seem

to help much.> Thanks, LW>Jackie

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Imitrex is a injected medicine that is used for migraines,, altho I do think now that they have a pill to take,, the problem with it is that IF you have any kind of vascular issues, you should NOT take Imitrex as it has been known to cause stroke.. my former step daughter had a rupture in her brain from Imitrex several years ago. It does NOT work for everyone who takes it either,, but when it does work, it works very well.richlee7 <rnewton8@...> wrote: how can you tell if it is a migraine or a regular

headache?i get bad headaches a lot, especially at night a few hours after my second dose ofribaviran. sometimes tylenol or ibuprofen, or excedring does not work for me. What is imitrex?>> I had to take Imitrex , but that is only if its a migrane . Otherwise tylenol is the best choice . > Headaches> > > New member here, wondering what you guys take for headaches. I was > diagnosed 8 years ago so I know to avoid acetomeniphen but aspirin and > ibuprophen don't seem

to help much.> Thanks, LW>Jackie

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Migraines tend to cause pain on one side of the head along with sensitivity to light and sounds . Imitrex works as a vaso dilators for the cerebral arteries , migraines are from constriction of the cerebral vessels so Imitrex works great . But if u have any heart problems then there is not way u can take it .

Headaches> > > New member here, wondering what you guys take for headaches. I was > diagnosed 8 years ago so I know to avoid acetomeniphen but aspirin and > ibuprophen don't seem to help much.> Thanks, LW>

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ok, well that makes sense hon! BUT Tylenol is still the safest for us to use for pain! Most people who do not have any liver disease can safely take up to 4000mg ( 4 grams) of tylenol a day as long as they dont mix alcohol with it,. but you and me, WE can ONLY safely take up to 2000 mg (2grams) per day of tylenol unless of course you have an allergy to it. As I said before too, you can ALSO, IN ADDITION to the 2000 mg of TYLENOL CAN take 1600 mg of ADVIL ( Ibuprofen) ALONG WITH THE TYLENOL... THEY both work differently so they CAN be taken together! My doc told me that several years ago and it works great... Ask your doc about it and see what he has to say! But as long as you DONT EXCEED the 2000 milligrams of tylenol per day, you are ok .. but look at EVERYTHING you are taking, lots of over the counter stuff has tylenol in it and you have to count for that too! I hope you can find a better doc so that if you wish to treat

again, you can get some REAL help! THAT doc should be reported to the AMA! jaxLone Wolf <nutn2it56@...> wrote: >> WHO told you not to take tylenol? >I think I read that it was hard on the liver and assumed it should be avoided in any doseage. I went through treatment ( 5 million units of Intron A

3X/week for 3 months) 8 years ago and was a non-responder, got no advice from the quack, and did my own research on line. I've been out of touch with people in the know for a while now so any help is appreciated. Thanks, LWJackie

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THAT doc should be reported to the AMA!

> jax

Won't be able to do that. The evil doctor died from a heart attack at

an early age while jogging. Actually his hands were tied regarding

what treatment he could prescribe that long ago. Combo treatment was

not considered standard treatment at the time and only non-responders

to traditional interferon regimens were allowed to receive alternative

treatments. Probably an insurance issue. His office contacted me

several months after the initial treatment to get me on a new

treatment but I wasn't ready to be a guinea pig pin cushion again. I'm

still not ready but I think time is running out.

Thanks for your advice on the acetamenophen. LW

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You are very welcome LW for the info about Tylenol,, Im sorry that you cannot report him but the good news is that he cannot hurt anyone else! Remember that this virus moves in decades so you may still have plenty of time left to wait for better treatment. How long has it been since you have had a biopsy? You might need to have another one to see how far you have progressed.. keep us posted! jaxLone Wolf <nutn2it56@...> wrote: >THAT doc should be reported to the AMA!> jaxWon't be able to do that. The evil doctor died from a heart attack at an early age while jogging. Actually his hands were tied regarding what treatment he could prescribe that long ago. Combo treatment was not considered standard treatment at the time and only non-responders to traditional interferon regimens were allowed to receive alternative treatments. Probably an insurance issue. His office contacted me several months after the initial treatment to get me on a new treatment but I wasn't ready to be a guinea pig pin cushion again. I'm still not ready but I think time is running out.Thanks for your advice on the acetamenophen. LWJackie

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sounds like i have migraines then as i get the pain at the left

temple always, and i am very sensitive to sound and light. it

triggers my headaches i think.

> >

> > I had to take Imitrex , but that is only if its a migrane .

> Otherwise tylenol is the best choice .

> > Headaches

> >

> >

> > New member here, wondering what you guys take for headaches. I

was

> > diagnosed 8 years ago so I know to avoid acetomeniphen but

aspirin

> and

> > ibuprophen don't seem to help much.

> > Thanks, LW

> >

>

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Hi LW,

Sorry you had a doctor that didn't seem to know what he was doing. I find the

medical

community so frustrating at times - at a time when we really need to be able to

trust, we

have to be more on our guard and really find out what the people that are

treating us

know or don't know. Doesn't seem right or fair. There are some really good

doctors and

teams out there and it sounds like you are overdue to find one :-). with good

thoughts,

karen

> >

> THAT doc should be reported to the AMA!

> > jax

> Won't be able to do that. The evil doctor died from a heart attack at

> an early age while jogging. Actually his hands were tied regarding

> what treatment he could prescribe that long ago. Combo treatment was

> not considered standard treatment at the time and only non-responders

> to traditional interferon regimens were allowed to receive alternative

> treatments. Probably an insurance issue. His office contacted me

> several months after the initial treatment to get me on a new

> treatment but I wasn't ready to be a guinea pig pin cushion again. I'm

> still not ready but I think time is running out.

> Thanks for your advice on the acetamenophen. LW

>

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Yup sounds like a migrane to me , but you should describe your symptoms to the doc so he can confirm or deny it...and treat it if you do have migranes ...

Headaches> > > > > > New member here, wondering what you guys take for headaches. I was > > diagnosed 8 years ago so I know to avoid acetomeniphen but aspirin > and > > ibuprophen don't seem to help much.> > Thanks, LW> >>

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Dear Guy,

You are getting detox symptoms. Itchiness usually is related to healing

processes.

Do a series of liver cleanses, and that should help the headache problem.

Also, you might see a chiropractor, since misalignment of the atlas and axis

can cause headaches.

Also, if the trapezoid muscles between the shoulders and the neck are

constricted, the blood flow to the brain is reduced, and that can result in

headaches.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

ozonated olive oil

Upon recieving my olive oil,I started using it in small amounts in my

ear canals.I have had itchy ears and some intermitent blockages in my

left ear now , for many years.I also had headaches and this has only

started recently over the last few months.The itchyness finally went

away after a few weeks and my ears felt better.

The headaches seem to have come back with a vengeance and I was

wondering if possibly this was a healing crisis.I stopped the olive oil

treatment and did a Bob Beck blood purifyer treatment (frequency ).

Almost miraculously the pain went away overnight.So needless to say I

continue to use the frequency.I tried the olive oil in my ears again

yesterday as the itchyness was returning and again the headaches

returned.I suspect Lyme.

I am a bit stumped.Yes , I am a firm believer in ozone but I don't

know what is happenning.

Any comments would be most appreciated.

Warm regards to all for the new year.

Guy

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Dear Guy,

You are getting detox symptoms. Itchiness usually is related to healing

processes.

Do a series of liver cleanses, and that should help the headache problem.

Also, you might see a chiropractor, since misalignment of the atlas and axis

can cause headaches.

Also, if the trapezoid muscles between the shoulders and the neck are

constricted, the blood flow to the brain is reduced, and that can result in

headaches.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

ozonated olive oil

Upon recieving my olive oil,I started using it in small amounts in my

ear canals.I have had itchy ears and some intermitent blockages in my

left ear now , for many years.I also had headaches and this has only

started recently over the last few months.The itchyness finally went

away after a few weeks and my ears felt better.

The headaches seem to have come back with a vengeance and I was

wondering if possibly this was a healing crisis.I stopped the olive oil

treatment and did a Bob Beck blood purifyer treatment (frequency ).

Almost miraculously the pain went away overnight.So needless to say I

continue to use the frequency.I tried the olive oil in my ears again

yesterday as the itchyness was returning and again the headaches

returned.I suspect Lyme.

I am a bit stumped.Yes , I am a firm believer in ozone but I don't

know what is happenning.

Any comments would be most appreciated.

Warm regards to all for the new year.

Guy

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Thank you for the reply Dr.Pressman.I will do the liver detox

program.My daughter, who is studying naturopathy has told me the same

thing, so this is a very good second opinion.

I have been seeing a chiro also and will again,but the adjustments

did not seem to last for any lenght of time,good for a few days and I

would have to go for another adjustment.I certainly felt a tightness

in my collarbone area,neck and head.So there is a problem there.

Thanks for the advice.

Guy

-- In oxyplus , " Saul Pressman " <saul@...> wrote:

>

> Dear Guy,

>

> You are getting detox symptoms. Itchiness usually is related to healing

> processes.

>

> Do a series of liver cleanses, and that should help the headache

problem.

>

> Also, you might see a chiropractor, since misalignment of the atlas

and axis

> can cause headaches.

>

> Also, if the trapezoid muscles between the shoulders and the neck are

> constricted, the blood flow to the brain is reduced, and that can

result in

> headaches.

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman

>

>

> ozonated olive oil

>

>

> Upon recieving my olive oil,I started using it in small amounts in my

> ear canals.I have had itchy ears and some intermitent blockages in my

> left ear now , for many years.I also had headaches and this has only

> started recently over the last few months.The itchyness finally went

> away after a few weeks and my ears felt better.

> The headaches seem to have come back with a vengeance and I was

> wondering if possibly this was a healing crisis.I stopped the olive oil

> treatment and did a Bob Beck blood purifyer treatment (frequency ).

> Almost miraculously the pain went away overnight.So needless to say I

> continue to use the frequency.I tried the olive oil in my ears again

> yesterday as the itchyness was returning and again the headaches

> returned.I suspect Lyme.

> I am a bit stumped.Yes , I am a firm believer in ozone but I don't

> know what is happenning.

> Any comments would be most appreciated.

> Warm regards to all for the new year.

> Guy

>

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Dear Guy,

Chiropractic adjustments will not hold if the energy in the adrenal meridian

is down. You will need to address that with a supplement program. Go see

your naturopath and get an adrenal support program. Then go back to your

chiro.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

ozonated olive oil

>

>

> Upon recieving my olive oil,I started using it in small amounts in my

> ear canals.I have had itchy ears and some intermitent blockages in my

> left ear now , for many years.I also had headaches and this has only

> started recently over the last few months.The itchyness finally went

> away after a few weeks and my ears felt better.

> The headaches seem to have come back with a vengeance and I was

> wondering if possibly this was a healing crisis.I stopped the olive oil

> treatment and did a Bob Beck blood purifyer treatment (frequency ).

> Almost miraculously the pain went away overnight.So needless to say I

> continue to use the frequency.I tried the olive oil in my ears again

> yesterday as the itchyness was returning and again the headaches

> returned.I suspect Lyme.

> I am a bit stumped.Yes , I am a firm believer in ozone but I don't

> know what is happenning.

> Any comments would be most appreciated.

> Warm regards to all for the new year.

> Guy

>

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Hi Marsha…

I didn’t know what to think of your headache so I Googled “headache

above left ear” and came up with some links. I do think you should talk

with your doc or nurse, but I’d guess they are stress related from what

the internet says. Here is a site describing different types of headaches,

interesting stuff: http://www.webnat.com/ht/HeadacheTest.asp

Let us

know what the doc says.

Hi group its marsha, for the last two days I

have been getting

sharp stabbing pain just above the left ear. It only lasts seconds,

but it hurts alot when it happens. before I can say ouch, its gone.

There is no set schedule for this pain it can happen once an hour or

sometimes numerous times in a row. I have heard of a ice pick headache

that sounds like what I'm experiencing. I thought it might be part of

the sides of tx. I'm calling my doc in the morning anyways, but just

thought I'd ask you all if you have ever heard of such a side? Marsha

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Marsha

I have talked to people who had terrible migraines and others who had none. I have had a headache since february and since starting treatment it has been terrible. I need to see what else the dr can do to help. I am sure it is from treatment but make sure you talk to your dr.

D

From: Llinda <Llinda@...>Subject: RE: HeadachesHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 10:25 AM

Hi Marsha… I didn’t know what to think of your headache so I Googled “headache above left ear” and came up with some links. I do think you should talk with your doc or nurse, but I’d guess they are stress related from what the internet says. Here is a site describing different types of headaches, interesting stuff: http://www.webnat. com/ht/HeadacheT est.asp

Let us know what the doc says.

Hi group its marsha, for the last two days I have been gettingsharp stabbing pain just above the left ear. It only lasts seconds, but it hurts alot when it happens. before I can say ouch, its gone. There is no set schedule for this pain it can happen once an hour or sometimes numerous times in a row. I have heard of a ice pick headache that sounds like what I'm experiencing. I thought it might be part of the sides of tx. I'm calling my doc in the morning anyways, but just thought I'd ask you all if you have ever heard of such a side? Marsha

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Marsha

I have talked to people who had terrible migraines and others who had none. I have had a headache since february and since starting treatment it has been terrible. I need to see what else the dr can do to help. I am sure it is from treatment but make sure you talk to your dr.

D

From: Llinda <Llinda@...>Subject: RE: HeadachesHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 10:25 AM

Hi Marsha… I didn’t know what to think of your headache so I Googled “headache above left ear” and came up with some links. I do think you should talk with your doc or nurse, but I’d guess they are stress related from what the internet says. Here is a site describing different types of headaches, interesting stuff: http://www.webnat. com/ht/HeadacheT est.asp

Let us know what the doc says.

Hi group its marsha, for the last two days I have been gettingsharp stabbing pain just above the left ear. It only lasts seconds, but it hurts alot when it happens. before I can say ouch, its gone. There is no set schedule for this pain it can happen once an hour or sometimes numerous times in a row. I have heard of a ice pick headache that sounds like what I'm experiencing. I thought it might be part of the sides of tx. I'm calling my doc in the morning anyways, but just thought I'd ask you all if you have ever heard of such a side? Marsha

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-Mike

Hve you had this checked out???? you really should tell your Dr about

them,,, years ago I was having heasaches,, never thought anything

about them,,, well I went in for my yearly checkup,,, dr didnt like me

having so many headaches,,, sent me for an MRI,,, they found that i

had a brain anurisium(sp?).... that was in " 95 " ... very rearly have

headaches now,,, please tell your Dr about them

soft hugs

T

-- In Stimulator , " Mike " <mike2boys@...> wrote:

>

> I get sezuire headaches no other heachach compars to a brain achy

pain

> mike group owner

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These aren't the seizure headaches. These are chronic migraines caused from

removal of a scar caused from high fever. It was a chance issue that they

could happen however I was not going to live with a huge scar across my

brain affecting it either. I have brief headaches after a seizure but it is

nothing like what has been going on throughout the month of September. My

head feels like it is in a vice grip. Because of these migraines and the

intensity, I have been put in situations where I not been able to function

for days and stuck on the couch. The only thing that has made me feel human

has been a heavy narcotic after it kicks into gear.

Today was actually the first day I've been able to read for more than 15

minutes on the computer, I felt spoiled.

-Sue

> I get seizure headaches no other headache compares to a brain achy pain

mike group owner

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