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> I am on day 4 of thyroid meds and I can't believe how good I feel already. Is this even possible? Or could it be something else? I woke up today not feeling my normal sleepy self I was refreshed and ready to start my day I have vener felt this way not even as a child, I get sick if I wake up to early too many times in a row. With things like strep throat. So is it possible to already feel good after only 4 days of thyroid meds after 10+ years being hypo?

Hi ,It is not unheard of, but not the norm either... What are you taking and how much ? If you are on NDT then it's quite possible,although most people report a significant improvement after about 10 days. Long may it last Best wishes

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I am taking a 1/2 grain of Armour right now.

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> Hi ,It is not unheard of, but not the norm either... What are you

> taking and how much ? If you are on NDT then it's quite

> possible,although most people report a significant improvement after

> about 10 days. Long may it last [:)]

> Best wishes

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> I am taking a 1/2 grain of Armour right now.

Nothing is impossible and the improvement on NDT is often dramatic, but on 1/2 grain after 4 days I would be surprised about such a significant turn around. However, if I remember correctly, Sheila had such a dramatic improvement herself when she switched from years on Levo to Armour.... although in her case it was after 9 days and she has never looked back.

How are you feeling today? - still good, I hope

Another explanation for sudden wellbeing might be a "thyroid dump", which happens when autoantibodies have destroyed yet another bit of thyroid tissue and the hormones stored in that tissue get pushed out into the bloodstream, giving us a sudden boost of wellbeing. So if your improvement doesn't last, then it has likely been the after-effects of a thyroid attack. But even if that were the case - keep going. You are going in the right direction

with best wishes,

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Hi,

I don't want to put a damper on your feelings, but I am just changing over to

NDT as well, and after 3 days, had two fantastic days where I cleaned out

cupboards and felt great. I then had a slump, which is now gradually improving.

I hope the feeling lasts for you as it was like waking up for a couple of days.

Good luck.

Sue

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> I am on day 4 of thyroid meds and I can't believe how good I feel already. Is

this even possible? Or could it be something else? I woke up today not feeling

my normal sleepy self I was refreshed and ready to start my day I have vener

felt this way not even as a child, I get sick if I wake up to early too many

times in a row. With things like strep throat. So is it possible to already

feel good after only 4 days of thyroid meds after 10+ years being hypo?

>

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Blame the day you did too much Sue, you really do have to take

it easy for a few weeks when starting NDT. Remember you have been feeling bad

for such a long time and your body needs time to get used to all of these

lovely new hormones it has not had around for quite some time.

What dose are you taking right now Sue and when was your last

increase, if, indeed, you have had an increase. We recommend taking half a

grain (30mgs) daily for 7 days, and then increasing by another 30mgs and

staying on that dose for 3 weeks, and if no adverse reaction, increase by

another 30mgs daily. Split your dose by taking half when you wake and the other

half dose around 2.00p.m. to 3.00p.m. to 'keep the engine topped up',

remembering that T3 has a short half life and the effects starts to wear off

after 6 to 8 hours.

Also, are you taking high doses of vitamin C, i.e. 2/3000mgs

daily and also 200mcgs Selenium?

Luv - Sheila

Hi,

I don't want to put a damper on your feelings, but I am just changing over to

NDT as well, and after 3 days, had two fantastic days where I cleaned out

cupboards and felt great. I then had a slump, which is now gradually improving.

I hope the feeling lasts for you as it was like waking up for a couple of days.

Good luck.

Sue

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Add another half grain (30mgs) after 7 days and then add another

half grain after 3 weeks on that dose. Take things easy though, don't go mad

suddenly finding all this extra energy and go overboard as some of us do, and

found our body was not ready to cope, so slipped back again. Seriously, treat

yourself like very expensive porcelain for the next few weeks and enjoy this

(hopefully) new found health. This is how it happened to me, but I didn't

realise until Day 9 after starting Armour. I always say that the sun came out

for me that day, and has never gone back in since, and that was 8 years ago.

Honestly, it is the one day in my life that I will never forget.

Luv - Sheila

I am taking a 1/2 grain of Armour right now.

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> Hi ,It is not unheard of, but not the norm either... What are you

> taking and how much ? If you are on NDT then it's quite

> possible,although most people report a significant improvement after

> about 10 days. Long may it last [:)]

> Best wishes

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We recommend taking half a grain (30mgs) daily for 7 days, and then increasing by another 30mgs and staying on that dose for 3 weeks, and if no adverse reaction, increase by another 30mgs daily.

Is this correct, Sheila? 1/2 grain daily? I had not heard this before. Is this a new recommendation for NDT dosing ?

Love,

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MODERATED TO REMOVE PREVIOUS MESSAGES. Please delete these and leave just a few

lines of what you are responding to. Many thanks. Luv - Sheila

___________________________________

It's me...the newbie again :) To Sheila and others on Armour,

Are you self-treating or with guidance from a UK doctor? Perhaps Dr. P?

I've got an appt with my GP tomorrow to hopefully get referral to an Endo

through private insurance, but from what I've read here, it may not be that

simple. Thanks in advance for any insights!

>

> Blame the day you did too much Sue, you really do have to take it easy for a

> few weeks when starting NDT. Remember you have been feeling bad for such a

> long time and your body needs time to get used to all of these lovely new

> hormones it has not had around for quite some time.

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Yes, it's possible . Took me 9 days and I thought that was

good, but perhaps you are going to break the records.

Luv - Sheila

I am on day 4 of thyroid meds and I can't

believe how good I feel already. Is this even possible? Or could it be

something else? I woke up today not feeling my normal sleepy self I was

refreshed and ready to start my day I have vener felt this way not even as a

child, I get sick if I wake up to early too many times in a row. With things

like strep throat. So is it possible to already feel good after only 4 days of

thyroid meds after 10+ years being hypo?

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Isn't it great to feel normalish again. However because you feel so well you tend to do too much and use up all the medication in your system, so can have a relapse, so take it easy and pace yourself for a while. No looking back now. All the very best. Ina

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Ooooops!

Well spotted , and NO, this MOST DEFINITELY isn't a new

recommendation. We would have to pick bits and bobs of you off the ceiling and

the walls if you increased your dose by half a grain (30mgs) DAILY. The

recommendation that you increase your dose by half a grain after 3 weeks is

correct, but PLEASE, PLEASE, not daily. So sorry.

Luv

- Sheila

We recommend taking half a

grain (30mgs) daily for 7 days, and then increasing by another 30mgs and

staying on that dose for 3 weeks, and if no adverse reaction, increase

by another 30mgs daily.

Is this correct, Sheila? 1/2 grain daily?

I had not heard this before. Is this a new recommendation for NDT dosing

?

Love,

xx

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I am one of the lucky ones . I have a wonderful

endocrinologist who recommends Erfa Thyroid for me (I started on Armour

Thyroid) and my GP is happy to prescribe it, because they can see how well I

have become and I never have to visit the doctor for any other complaints.

When you get your appointment with the endocrinologist, find out

from us what comments s/he is likely to make and be ready for them by

collecting answers. First, check out my rebuttal to the British Thyroid

Association's Statement on their web site about Armour Thyroid - versus -

Levothyroxine only. They have so much wrong in there it is unbelievable and

they have not backed up any of the statements by citing references to

scientific evidence. This will give you an idea of why not many

endocrinologists will recommend it, because they believe what the BTA write as

gospel http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/resp_bta_armour.pdf

Also, if the endocrinologist tries to tell you that they are not

allowed to prescribe natural thyroid extract because it is not licensed, then

copy the attached documents from the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory

Agency (MHRA) who allow doctors to prescribe particular unlicensed medicines

when the licensed product doesn't work for them. This covers Armour Thyroid,

Nature Throid, Westhroid and Erfa Thyroid. There is also a letter from the

Medical Director of Erfa 'Thyroid' that was sent to a local Primary Care Trust

because they were giving out incorrect information.

You may find you will have to fight your corner because most

endocrinologists have been given incorrect information. Natural thyroid extract

has been used for over 100 years safely and effectively and it was the ONLY

medication for all those suffering with symptoms of hypothyroidism before the

synthetic levothyroxine was manufactured. NDT has never been licensed because

it never required a license as it was 'grandfathered' in as being safe.

Good luck.

Luv - Sheila

It's me...the newbie again :) To Sheila and others on Armour,

Are you self-treating or with guidance from a UK doctor? Perhaps Dr. P?

I've got an appt with my GP tomorrow to hopefully get referral to an Endo

through private insurance, but from what I've read here, it may not be that

simple. Thanks in advance for any insights!

>

>

3 of 3 File(s)

MHRA confirmation re Natur1.doc

The following is a response from the Medical Director of ERFA Thyroid to a letter sent by Derbyshire PCT to one of our members

MHRAletter.doc

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Well, I am still feeling very well. I should have upped it today a 1/2 grain

but I forgot I will do that tomorrow. I feel like I can get up and not require

a pot of coffee to get going. I am very happy so far with the meds.

Hopefully, the pounds will come off too. With all this energy I can't wait to

start a regular exercise program that I won't be too tired to keep with.

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Don't rush this and please take it easy. As soon as people

start to feel their energy returning in abundance, they naturally want to get

up and do all those jobs they have not been able to do before, including, at

this time of the year, gardening. This is fine, but in the early days, it

nearly always happens that you get up the following day, and find yourself back

to square one, with little to no energy, feeling completely drained and

worrying that your new treatment regime might have stopped working. It hasn't,

it is just that your body needs to be given sufficient time to acclimatise to

these lovely new hormones your body has forgotten it used to have. So, pace

yourself, and I really mean it when I say, TAKE IT EASY and care for that body

that is now returning to normal health.

Well doneā€¦.and isn't it a wonderful feeling?

Luv - Sheila

Well, I am still feeling very well. I should

have upped it today a 1/2 grain but I forgot I will do that tomorrow. I feel

like I can get up and not require a pot of coffee to get going. I am very happy

so far with the meds.

Hopefully, the pounds will come off too. With all this energy I can't wait to

start a regular exercise program that I won't be too tired to keep with.

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> Don't rush this and please take it easy. As soon as people start to> feel their energy returning in abundance, they naturally want to get up and> do all those jobs they have not been able to do before, including, at this> time of the year, gardening. This is fine, but in the early days, it nearly> always happens that you get up the following day, and find yourself back to> square one, with little to no energy, feeling completely drained and> worrying that your new treatment regime might have stopped working. ...

I can only echo Sheila's caution, - DO take it easy, please. No more streneous exercise than an half hourly daily walk or something like that. You won't be ready to conquer the world just yet. Give your body a chance.... and don't worry, you will soon start losing some weight, even without any exercise. There is still time for the gym in a couple of months time. Until then - put your feet up and reduce any stress you may have

with best wishes,

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