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[Guest guest]

Also, my nutritionist had originally given me adrenal support pills: ADRESET

Should I reorder them and just start taking them for 2 weeks for support before

starting Eltroxin? Or do these affect my kidney?

I have also found my latest vitamin and full blood count results (December and I

stopped taking my vitamins . Don't know which ones are useful to post here, so

here are some:

B12 (my apology thought my doctor hadnt done this): 550 pg/mL (211.0 - 911.0)

ESR : 10 mm/hr (1.0 - 12.0)

Plasma Fasting Glucose level (44g1) : 5.1 mmol (2.5 - 6.1)

Serum Iron Level (X76tH) : 12 umol/L (11.0 - 332.0)

Serum TIBC (XE2mF) : 61umol/L (36.0 - 81.0)

Transferrin saturation index (XaERN) : 20% (12.0 - 57.0)

My kidney was not doing so well:

Creatinine : 114 (58 - 96)

GFR : 52 (90 - 99999)

but since stopping the high protein diets and becoming a vegetarian, these

levels are better although still mildly impaired (as opposed to moderately

before)

Serum Total Cholesterol : 4.89 (0.0 - 5.10)

Serum Tryglyceride : 1.28 (0.0 - 2.23)

Serum HDL cholesterol : 2.24 (>= 0.9)

Calculated LD cholesterol : 2.07 (0.0 - 3.35

Serum cholesterol/HDL ratio : 2.2 (0.0 - 4.3)

ThANKS FOR *ANY* HELP - Sophie

moderated.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sophie,

Wow it sounds like you have been through a lot. It will get better though. I am

somewhat new here too, but I can share what I have learned so far. Also, I am

from the US living in the UK. As much as I get frustrated with the GPs here, my

family doctor back home was no help either. So unless by some stroke of luck

you get a GP that has extensive experience with what you're dealing with, they

probably won't help. You need to see a specialist. Did you check out mary

shomans list of recommended thyroid docs? Google it and you will find a list for

the UK. Better yet, why don't you make an appointment with Dr. Peatfield in

London? Yes, you will probably have to wait a month or a few but better to have

the appointment than keep waiting. Also, under the files section is everything

you need to know about ordering tests and administering your own doses of

thyroid. This is what Sheila wrote to me:

" You will find all the information you need in our 'All Natural Desiccated

Thyroid' FOLDER in the files section of this forum, together with a document on

'How to Use Natural Thyroid Extract' which you should read through to thoroughly

understand everything about why you need to follow such recommendations "

I was able to order armour thyroid no problem..it just took about a week to get

here.

You should do the genova adrenal test...it is quite helpful. I just got my

results and am now figuring out how to treat it.

It does seem like there is no quick fix given that so many parts of your body

are involved. That is why it seems so important to see an expert who deals with

this stuff all the time. I am trying to get as many tests and information

together for my appt with dr peatfield at the end of april. I figure thats my

best bet.

I know it's incredibly frustrating and also expensive for all the tests and

docs. This site is so helpful though..make sure you look through the files.

I hope you get some more experienced opinions too, as I mentioned I am new to

this also (not the symptoms, just the proper treatment! I have learned that

you really have to take control and ownership of your own health..there is

obviously no more sitting there passively while the doctor tells you what you

should and should not do. If we did that, we probably wouldn't be treated at

all. I am not saying it's easy...I walked out of a GP appt last week crying

(like you, just can't handle stressors anymore). So look through the files and

stay connected. There is so much to learn.

Good luck, you will feel better!

[Guest guest]

Hi Sophie

Sorry to hear you're having such a bad time.

To answer your questions, Eltroxin is supposed to be a good brand.

The pure thyroid your pharmacist referred to might be martindale's pure

thyroxine?

> I did the questionnaires on this group for adrenals and they appeared to be

positive

If you do this test, what does it indicate you are deficient in?

http://www.editgrid.com/user/saravanan.balakrishnan/Dr_Thierry_Hertoghe's_Hormon\

e_Questionnaire?ro=1

Are you in a position to travel to Belgium for help? If so, I expect the

Hertoghe clinic would be very helpful - they prescribe Erfa thyroid there.

chris

[Guest guest]

Thank you and for your responses! I will take a closer look at

the files.

How do I get an appointment with Dr. Peatfield? Apologies if this has been asked

a million times. Thank you.

To answer your question I took the questionnaire and it says I am:

probably deficient in:

- Pregnenolone

- Testosterone

and possibly deficient in:

- ACTH

- Aldosterone

- DHEA

- EPO

- Growth Hormone

- Thyroid Hormones

- Vasopressin

Thanks, Sophie

>

> Hi Sophie

>

> Sorry to hear you're having such a bad time.

>

> To answer your questions, Eltroxin is supposed to be a good brand.

>

> The pure thyroid your pharmacist referred to might be martindale's pure

thyroxine?

>

>

> > I did the questionnaires on this group for adrenals and they appeared to be

positive

>

>

> If you do this test, what does it indicate you are deficient in?

>

>

http://www.editgrid.com/user/saravanan.balakrishnan/Dr_Thierry_Hertoghe's_Hormon\

e_Questionnaire?ro=1

>

>

> Are you in a position to travel to Belgium for help? If so, I expect the

Hertoghe clinic would be very helpful - they prescribe Erfa thyroid there.

>

> chris

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/drpeatfield_clinics.php

Dr. peatfield clinic Telephone: 01883 623 125

I also saw an endo in london (dr. shotliff) last week out of desperation (I

live in cardiff) but am waiting to get more blood tests done and then the

results before he will recommend treatment. He seemed like a good doctor and

good listener ( then again I also paid a good fee) but I don't want to make any

recommendations until I see what he advises and if he takes my adrenal saliva

test seriously. I will let you know.

Good luck!!

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much . I will call tomorrow and try to get an appointment.

Anyone used Adreset before? I can also get Nutri Adrenals. Don't know how they

compare or if I should be taking them before attempting an adrenal test. Do the

files show how to order these tests, and of there is a discount for being part

of this group? Going to go read up now.

Thank you all for any information.

I forwarded my results from that questionnaire, but I am not sure what to

do about that?

[Guest guest]

Dear Sophie

There are thyroid related diseases which have the symptoms of hypothyroidism but

are not. One is euthyroid (your thyroid is OK) hypometabolism (but you are

dragging about anyway). It is diagnosed with metabolic tests like basal

metabolism rate (BMR) or resting metabolism rate (RMR). Other indicators are

body temperature and excessive skin thickness on the outside (between the front

and back upper arm muscles) of your upper arm.

The other possibility is hormone reception resistance. Even though you have

adequate T3 in your system does not mean that it is getting to the cells were it

controls the nucleus and mitochondria.

There is a description of the Greater Thyroid System on the TPA home page. Just

visit the TPA forum.

Have a better day,

[Guest guest]

Hi Sophie

What are your plans, going forward?

i asked if you were able to go to belgium to the Hertoghe clinic - is this

possible for you?

>Are you in a position to travel to Belgium for help? If so, I expect the

Hertoghe clinic would be very helpful - they prescribe Erfa thyroid there.

I found the blood tests matched the questionnaire quite well, and over time,

they changed.

Have you looked into vitamin and mineral deficiencies that might also be

affecting you?

http://www.hertoghe.eu/patients/pdf/All%20vitamins%20deficiency%20tests.pdf

best regards

chris

>

> I forwarded my results from that questionnaire, but I am not sure what

to do about that?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for your response. How do you test BMR and RMR?

I doubt I could financially afford to go to Belgium often, perhaps once.

Would it be much more worth it than attempting to make an appointment with Dr.

Peatfield?

Lastly, can anyone tell me if they have personally tried ADRESET or Nutri

Adrenals? Which is better?? I tried searching the files (have read a LOT

thanks).

If most of the signs indicated in the Adrenal section in the files are turning

up positive, do I still test anyway with Genova, or treat?

THANK YOU all so much. I have struggled with this for years but I have NEVER

felt as tired and just dead as this.

Sophie

>

> Dear Sophie

>

> There are thyroid related diseases which have the symptoms of hypothyroidism

but are not. One is euthyroid (your thyroid is OK) hypometabolism (but you are

dragging about anyway). It is diagnosed with metabolic tests like basal

metabolism rate (BMR) or resting metabolism rate (RMR). Other indicators are

body temperature and excessive skin thickness on the outside (between the front

and back upper arm muscles) of your upper arm.

>

> The other possibility is hormone reception resistance. Even though you have

adequate T3 in your system does not mean that it is getting to the cells were it

controls the nucleus and mitochondria.

>

> There is a description of the Greater Thyroid System on the TPA home page.

Just visit the TPA forum.

>

> Have a better day,

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks again, , I am still not exactly sure what to do, have read through

the files.

Which way/comapny did you end up ordering your Armour Thyroid?

I may do the Genova tests but we are off on holiday for 2 weeks so I imagine the

results will be waiting for me then.

Which office are you seeing Dr Peatfield at? Where is it in London?

[Guest guest]

Hi

Can the Hertoghe clinic help with Adrenal Fatigue? If so, might they prescribe

Hydrocortisone?

I think taking Hydrocortisone is probably my next move but if I do go down that

route, I want to be well supported by a professional.

Thanks

Bryony

>

> Hi Sophie

>

> What are your plans, going forward?

>

> i asked if you were able to go to belgium to the Hertoghe clinic - is this

possible for

[Guest guest]

Hi Bryony,

Yes, the clinic prescribe whatever is necessary based on blood tests, 24hr urine

tests *and* symptoms. I have been given HC by them. They know what they are

doing...

I think you are right not to take HC without support from a professional, and

thorough evaluation, too

C

>

> Hi

>

> Can the Hertoghe clinic help with Adrenal Fatigue? If so, might they prescribe

Hydrocortisone?

>

> I think taking Hydrocortisone is probably my next move but if I do go down

that route, I want to be well supported by a professional.

>

> Thanks

>

> Bryony

[Guest guest]

> I doubt I could financially afford to go to Belgium often, perhaps

once. Would it be much more worth it than attempting to make an appointment with

Dr. Peatfield?

Dr Peatfield is excellent, the only reason for suggesting Belgium is in an ideal

world you'd get thorough testing done for everything, and they do that in

Belgium (well the lab sends you the vials etc and you get the blood taken and

it's sent back to Belgium). You get about 40 tests done for £400, including

several 24hr urine tests (cortisol, growth hormone etc). It is expensive to

test with Genova, and they don't do all of the tests that they do in preparation

for the Hertoghe clinic.

> Lastly, can anyone tell me if they have personally tried ADRESET or Nutri

Adrenals? Which is better?? I tried searching the files (have read a LOT

thanks).

I have no experience with Adreset, sorry. I tried nutri adrenals but for me ,

I got on better with whole cortex glandulars (such as the one from

mandimart.co.uk)

> If most of the signs indicated in the Adrenal section in the files are turning

up positive, do I still test anyway with Genova, or treat?

>

It's important to get proper testing done, as people on here have reported

symptoms of low cortisol but when they've had tests done, their results are ok,

or even high.

chris

[Guest guest]

Hi Sophie,

I thought the clinic was in London but I just checked my papers and it is

actually in a place called Crawley, West Sussex, about an hour drive from the

london bridge. Sorry to misinform you. I plan to rent a car and drive from

Cardiff, so I didn't really consider the location too much yet. I hope you can

still consider it given it's not in London. If you can, don't wait to make the

appointment. I also read what said about the clinic in Belgium..that

sounds really ideal.

When I ordered the thyroid I ordered from

http://www.internationalpharmacy.com/en/home

I just received my order of nutri adrenal extra today too, it came the day after

I ordered it. (under the " discounts on supplements and tests " file in the file

section, there is a nutri ltd discount doc)

I hope you have a nice vacation and good weather!

[Guest guest]

HI,

Basal Metabolism Rate is measured as soon as you wake up by measuring the net

oxygen intake and the net carbon dioxide output. It is low then the cells are

not converting much sugar and oxygen to water and carbon dioxide.

Resting Metabolism Rate is similar, except that it is measured after you have

been resting for a while during the day.

I have not found out what happens to the T3 that is supposed to control this

conversion which also produces energy...

Have a great day,

>

> Hi ,

>

> Thanks for your response. How do you test BMR and RMR?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Thanks for all the information. So do you have to travel to Belgium to the

clinic the first time? How many times? It does sound good to get thorough

testing.

When I took Adreset I felt worse, or certainly no better, so maybe testing is

the better option. I just didnt want to start Eltroxin without treating

adrenal(s) first if that was a problem, and yet I have to start something as I

feel awful.

Am I doing myself a disservice by starting Eltroxin as my GP has advised?

Sophie

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much and . I see the Thorne whole cortex glandular is

sold out so I will look out for it while we are on holiday in the USA (Austin,

Texas and Las Vegas) for the next two weeks. Are there any other Thyroid,

Adrenal or Candida products that I should look our for that may be easier to

find or cheaper in the USA?

My plan going forward is to do the candida and adrenal tests with Genova which I

have just received, even though I would prefer the clinic in Belgium if it were

closer or I could estimate an overall coat. I don't know how many times you

might have to go back.

I have also just found a pharmacy near me in Richmond which has Armour and the

advised a doctor who usually prescribes it, fingers crossed.

Other than that I have a drs appointment on Monday where I will show them a

letter from my friend near Newcastle who gets T3 and T4 to prove to my doctor

that we do " do that in this country " . I am at a loss what do I ask for??? She

won't even refer me to an endo :/

[Guest guest]

Ok here's what happens

you contact the clinic, and you book an appointment. they send you all the

relevant information, including the lab details. you contact the lab and they

send you the relevant test tubes etc, and you send the samples back via prepaid

24 hr courier. it costs about 400 pounds. for future lab tests, the cost would

probably only be about 200 pounds or less.

you have 2 appointments initially at the clinic, usually back to back because

you're coming from far away. in total these appointments cost 420-640 Euros

depending on who you want to see - 420 for 2 hours with an assistant, or to see

Dr Hertoghe with an assistant (he never consults alone). some assistants are

better than others, there is one i would avoid.

at the clinic they go over your symptoms, blood tests, and a 24 page

questionnaire. it's very thorough.

You take any prescriptions from the clinic to the pharmacy at the end of the

road, and they'll dispense pretty much everything you need (including erfa

thyroid). but note that some things are ordered fron a compounding pharmacy in

germany.... (eg testosterone gel, for me). You can go on the eurostar and if

you book early enough the tickets are quite cheap, or there are flights from

london airports. brussels is only about an hour away, and the public transport

over there is very good.

in the first year you might expect to go 3-4 times, then after that it'll settle

down....plus the first double appointment is more expensive because you need two

hours there - after that, you go back and you just have one hour there, so that

costs 220 euros or 330 , depending on who you see.

for me, i couldn't go on any longer.....i also choose not to take foreign

holidays and would sooner spend the money on health, there's no way i could

enjoy a holiday if i was ill.....i've had to borrow, but what price health....?

chris

>

> Hi

>

> Thanks for all the information. So do you have to travel to Belgium to the

clinic the first time? How many times? It does sound good to get thorough

testing.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sophie,

Thats good that you will have the tests done soon! Did you see under the file

" All Natural Dessicated Thyroid Information " there is a doc called " pharmacies " .

Those are all the different places you can order from. I don't think you will be

able to get any thyroid medicine without a prescription is the US. I could be

wrong, but for example, internationalpharmacy.com will not ship within the US.

That's good that found a doc who prescribes armor. Good luck. There is also a

wellness center in Texas similar to the one in Belgium,

http://www.hotzehwc.com/. However, I think it is quite expensive. Anyway check

out the site because there is useful info.on it. I hope you have luck with the(

gp?) doc on Monday, but don't count on it. I made the mistake of being too

hopeful and then just came out disappointed. make sure you have all the vitamins

and everything you need to keep your immune system up while you are traveling. I

hope you feel more hopeful now that you have a plan. good luck!

maria

-

[Guest guest]

From: thyroid treatment

[mailto:thyroid treatment ] On Behalf Of Sophie

Sent: 24 March 2012 12:15

thyroid treatment

Subject: Re: Exhausted and disillusioned but

ready to fight - PLEASE HELP *

Thanks so much and . I see the

Thorne whole cortex glandular is sold out so I will look out for it while we

are on holiday in the USA (Austin, Texas and Las Vegas) for the next two weeks.

Are there any other Thyroid, Adrenal or Candida products that I should look our

for that may be easier to find or cheaper in the USA?

My plan going forward is to do the candida and adrenal tests with Genova which

I have just received, even though I would prefer the clinic in Belgium if it

were closer or I could estimate an overall coat. I don't know how many times

you might have to go back.

I have also just found a pharmacy near me in Richmond which has Armour and the

advised a doctor who usually prescribes it, fingers crossed.

Other than that I have a drs appointment on Monday where I will show them a

letter from my friend near Newcastle who gets T3 and T4 to prove to my doctor

that we do " do that in this country " . I am at a loss what do I ask

for??? She won't even refer me to an endo :/

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[Guest guest]

Ooops - trigger finger sent

off my response to you before I had even written it  -DOH! Sophie, what I would

do is to write a letter to your GP and ask her to place this letter into your

medical notes. Doctors pay more attention to the written word, and know that if

they do not follow up on your requests, or give you a reasonable answer as to

why they cannot, you can take this matter further. Here is a rough draft of

what you might want to say. Keep a copy of this letter yourself, and if you

have one, send a copy to the Head of Practice, and make sure your doctor knows

this, by writing Cc to Dr *****

Hope this helps.

Luv - Sheila

Dear Doctor

As I have been suffering with symptoms of hypothyroidism

for a long time now without anybody apparently knowing why, I am now determined

to do whatever is necessary to find the cause, and hope that you will work with

me.

The present symptoms I am suffering are (here, list all of your symptoms and list your signs. You

can check these against those under ‘Hypothyroidism Symptoms and Signs

Checklist).

My basal temperatures before getting out of bed in a

morning and before having anything to drink for the last four mornings have

been (here, list these if they were 97.8 degrees

F (36.6 degrees C – or less.)

(If this applies…)There

are members of my family who have a thyroid and/or autoimmune disease and I am

aware this can run down the family line (here,

list those members of your family and their relationship to you).

Please, therefore, would you arrange for me to have a

FULL thyroid function test to include TSH, free T4, free T3, TPO and TgAb. I

would like a copy of all of these results together with the reference range for

each of the tests as soon as these have been returned. (You do not have to give any reason to a doctor why you

want these results. Also, doctors cannot withhold any information that is in

your medical notes under The Date Protection Act 1998).

I understand there are specific minerals and vitamins

that should be checked also to see whether any of them are low in the reference

range that stop thyroid hormone from being fully utilised at the cellular

level. Would you please arrange for my levels of iron, transferrin

saturation%,  ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and

zinc levels to be tested? Below are just some of the references to show the

reasons why these specific nutrients must be tested in patients suffering with

symptoms of hypothyroidism [1-. (If your doctor

doesn’t know about these, or tries to tell you there is no connection,

please copy out the references at the end of the ‘Standard Tests for

Thyroid Disease’ chapter to show your doctor that there is a connection).

Please would you make these results available to me together with the reference

range for each test done? (If any are shown to be low in the range, these will

need to be supplemented before the thyroid hormone will work).

I would like a referral to a specialist in thyroid

disease for a thorough clinical examination and an assessment of my clinical

history, as well as the results of serum thyroid function tests as determined

by

The Department of Health, who state:

" Blood tests are useful in helping diagnose

hypothyroidism but should not be used in isolation and other factors must be

taken into account such as the absence or presence of symptoms. This is why at

present it is considered good medical practice to rely upon clinical history

and examination, in addition to blood tests, in the diagnosis of this

condition”.

…and The GMC who state:

" Good clinical care must include: an adequate

assessment of the patient's conditions, based on the history and symptoms and,

if necessary, an appropriate examination " .

I would like a second opinion from an specialist in this

field and therefore, please would you refer me to Dr ***** at **** Hospital.

Please will you place this letter of requests in my

Medical Records?

I await hearing from you in due course.

Kind regards

******  *********

LOW LEVELS OF SPECIFIC MINERALS AND VITAMINS CAN STOP

THYROID HORMONE FROM BEING FULLY UTILISED AT THE CELLULAR LEVEL. Check

for…

Low iron/ferritin:

Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3

conversion, increase reverse T3 levels, and block the thermogenic (metabolism

boosting) properties of thyroid hormone (1-4). Thus, iron deficiency, as

indicated by an iron saturation below 25 or a ferritin below 70, will result in

diminished intracellular T3 levels. Additionally, T4 should not be considered

adequate thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present (1-4)).

1. Dillman E, Gale C,

Green W, et al. Hypothermia in iron deficiency due to altered triiodithyroidine

metabolism. Regulatory, Integrative and Comparative Physiology

1980;239(5):377-R381.

2. SM,

PE, Lukaski HC. In vitro hepatic thyroid hormone deiodination in iron-deficient

rats: effect of dietary fat. Life Sci 1993;53(8):603-9.

3. Zimmermann MB,

Köhrle J. The Impact of Iron and Selenium Deficiencies on Iodine and Thyroid

Metabolism: Biochemistry and Relevance to Public Health. Thyroid 2002;12(10):

867-78.

4. Beard J, tobin B,

Green W. Evidence for Thyroid Hormone Deficiency in Iron-Deficient Anemic Rats.

J. Nutr. 1989;119:772-778.

Vitamin B12:

5. Vitamin B12: (5)

Jabbar A, Yawar A, Waseem S, Islam N, Ul Haque N, Zuberi L, Khan A, Akhter J.

Vitamin B12 deficiency common in primary hypothyroidism. Department of

Medicine, Aga Khan University, Karachi, Pakistan. 2008 May;58(5):258-61.

Clinical Chemistry September 2001 vol. 47 no. 9 1738-1741

6. Jabbar A, Yawar A,

Waseem S, Islam N, Ul Haque N, Zuberi L, Khan A, Akhter J. Vitamin B12

deficiency common in primary hypothyroidism. Department of Medicine, Aga Khan

University, Karachi, Pakistan. 2008 May;58(5):258-61.

Vitamin D3:

7. Bársony, P.

Lakatos, J. Földes and T. Fehér. Effect of vitamin D3 loading and thyroid

hormone replacement therapy on the decreased serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D level in

patients with hypothyroidism: Acta Endocrinol November 1, 1986 113 329-334

Folate:

8. B. CATARGI, F.

PARROT-ROULAUD, C. COCHET, D. DUCASSOU, P. ROGER, and A. TABARIN. Thyroid.

December 1999, 9(12): 1163-1166. doi:10.1089/thy.1999.9.1163. Published in

Volume: 9 Issue 12: January 30, 2009

9. Bjørn G. Nedrebø,

Ottar Nygård, Per M. Ueland, and Ernst A. Lien; Plasma Total Homocysteine in

Hyper- and Hypothyroid Patients before and during 12 Months of Treatment.

Clinical Chemistry September 2001 vol. 47 no. 9 1738-1741

Magnesium:

10. JOHN E. JONES, PAUL

C. DESPER, STANLEY R. SHANE, AND EDMUND B. FLINK .Magnesium Metabolism in

Hyperthyroidism and Hypothyroidism: Journal of Clinical Investigation. Vol. 45,

No. 6, 1966

Copper:

11. Lawrence , MD

..COPPER TOXICITY SYNDROME Revised, July 2011, The Center For Development.

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htm

12. Vivek R Joshi, Ayaz

K Mallick, Manjunatha Goud B K, Ravindra Maradi, Maheshwar G Reddy, Raghavendra

Tey, Gaurav Shorey. Effect of serum copper concentration and ceruloplasmin on

lipid parameters leading to increased propensity to cardiovascular risk.

Department of Biochemistry, Melaka Manipal Medical College, Manipal University.

ISSN: 0975-8585

Zinc

13. Iham Amir Al-Juboori

, Rafi Al-Rawi, Hussein Kadhem A-Hakeim. . Estimation of Serum Copper,

Manganese, Selenium

14. Zinc in

Hypothyroidism Patients. IUFS Journal of Biology Short Communication 121 IUFS J

Biol 2009, 68(2): 121-126

 

From: thyroid treatment

[mailto:thyroid treatment ] On Behalf Of Sophie

Sent: 24 March 2012 12:15

thyroid treatment

Subject: Re: Exhausted and disillusioned but

ready to fight - PLEASE HELP *

Thanks so much and . I see the

Thorne whole cortex glandular is sold out so I will look out for it while we

are on holiday in the USA (Austin, Texas and Las Vegas) for the next two weeks.

Are there any other Thyroid, Adrenal or Candida products that I should look our

for that may be easier to find or cheaper in the USA?

My plan going forward is to do the candida and adrenal tests with Genova which

I have just received, even though I would prefer the clinic in Belgium if it

were closer or I could estimate an overall coat. I don't know how many times

you might have to go back.

I have also just found a pharmacy near me in Richmond which has Armour and the

advised a doctor who usually prescribes it, fingers crossed.

Other than that I have a drs appointment on Monday where I will show them a

letter from my friend near Newcastle who gets T3 and T4 to prove to my doctor

that we do " do that in this country " . I am at a loss what do I ask

for??? She won't even refer me to an endo :/

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[Guest guest]

Dawn,

I replied to your email - check your spam/junk folder if you didn't receive the

email in your inbox

best regards

chris

[Guest guest]

Hi Chris.

Thanks for that. Sounds really good.

How long did you take HC for? Did it help improve your adrenal function? Did you

have any side effects?

With warm wishes

Bryony

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> Hi Bryony,

>

> Yes, the clinic prescribe whatever is necessary based on blood tests, 24hr

urine tests *and* symptoms. I have been given HC by them. They know what they

are doing...

[Guest guest]

Hi Bryony

I am still on hc, dhea etc. I don't know as it is possible to heal

adrenals...depends what the course is. My view is if you need something you need

it

Probably some weight gain initially as I took hc without dhea, which was a

mistake...trick is to take physiological doses and optimize everything...

Chris

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> Hi Chris.

>

> Thanks for that. Sounds really good.

>

> How long did you take HC for? Did it help improve your adrenal function? Did

you have any side effects?

>

> With warm wishes

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Chris

Could you tell me the name of the assistant that you would want to avoid -

either on here or privately?

Thank you, Caron

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> Ok here's what happens

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> you contact the clinic, and you book an appointment. they send you all the

relevant information, including the lab details. you contact