RE: Help Please keep falling

[Guest guest]

hello julie

how are you feeling today after your fall?

> " Serum folate " 7.5 ug/L (3.1 - 19.9)

i think this is way too low and could be the reason your mch is high...your

blood cells change their shape in order to capture more nutrients is the way i

see it ...i had this and it was this abnormality that set my doctor on the path

to finding out i was hypo. at the time i was also falling over a lot...i also

associate this so-called clumsiness with low adrenal status.

your chronic low back pain may well also be adrenal related

http://www.pihealth.com/adrenal_glands_and_stress.htm

" Adrenal Gland Related to Muscle

Dr. Goodheart has identified no less than five specific muscles, which are

related to adrenal gland function. These are: 1) sartorius, 2) gracilis, 3)

posterior tibialis, 4) gastrocnemius, and 5) soleus.

Many patients with hypoadrenia seek our help for the care of sacroiliac pain

and/or low back pain, which is due to the lack of pelvic stabilization normally

provided by these muscles.

Due to the relationship of the posterior tibialis, gastrocnemius, and soleus to

the stability of the foot and ankle, many hypoadrenic patients will complain-of

symptoms of tired feet, weak ankles, or aching calves. "

the low alt reading may indicate your liver is a bit congested.

on a daily basis the adrenals need very good amounts of vitamin c (you could try

taking 500mg three or four times a day), some good quality saturated fat (e.g.

organic butter, organic cold pressed virgin coconut oil), and some unrefined sea

salt (try taking 1/4 teaspoon in water and see if that helps your back pain).

the adrenals also need proper amounts of b vitamins and in particular b5

(panothentic acid). a daily good quality (food form) b complex might be worth

trying. you could also try a folinic acid suplement (as opposed to folic acid)

http://www.integratedhealth.com/hpdspec/folinic.html

do you have a diet high in leafy green vegetables e.g. broccoli, brussel

sprouts? for me that would be the best way to raise your folate level ...i am

not a great fan of folic acid because that is not found in nature (so the body

doesn't exactly recognise it) and it has to be converted in the liver in order

to be used effectively and your liver may already be a bit sluggish.

to help your liver (and constipation) you could try taking something like

artichoke extract and also cut back on caffeine/alcohol/sugar. another liver

friendly remedy would be to take good amounts of water throughout the day and if

you add lemon juice that will also help the adrenals. another thing to help

would be to take a glass of warm water first thing in the morning (it might make

you gag a bit at first but it will help get your system moving).

> " Transferrin saturation index " 21%

i have read that saturation needs to be a minimum of 25% and preferably 35%, so

yours is on the low side.

it's good that you've been given vit d3 ..that should help with everything.

have you had your oestrogen/progesterone levels tested ...imbalance may be the

cause of your fibroids:

http://www.natural-progesterone-advisory-network.com/can-progesterone-make-fibro\

ids-grow/

best wishes

trish

>

> Hi Sheila,

>

> I posted some test results on 6th March and kindly replied but said

she didn't know that much about test results, I wonder if you or someone else

can take a look please. I had a really bad fall last night, my second one in 6

weeks and I'm pretty stressed at the moment.

>

> Briefly I was diagnosed as hperthyroid in 1996, had a partial thyroidechtomy

in

> Jan 1998 and I've been on 100 mcgs levothyroxine pretty much ever since.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

(sorry if this comes through twice)

hello julie

how are you feeling today after your fall?

> " Serum folate " 7.5 ug/L (3.1 - 19.9)

i think this is way too low and could be the reason your mch is high...your

blood cells change their shape in order to capture more nutrients is the way i

see it ...i had this and it was this abnormality that set my doctor on the path

to finding out i was hypo. at the time i was also falling over a lot...i also

associate this so-called clumsiness with low adrenal status.

your chronic low back pain may well also be adrenal related

http://www.pihealth.com/adrenal_glands_and_stress.htm

" Adrenal Gland Related to Muscle

Dr. Goodheart has identified no less than five specific muscles, which are

related to adrenal gland function. These are: 1) sartorius, 2) gracilis, 3)

posterior tibialis, 4) gastrocnemius, and 5) soleus.

Many patients with hypoadrenia seek our help for the care of sacroiliac pain

and/or low back pain, which is due to the lack of pelvic stabilization normally

provided by these muscles.

Due to the relationship of the posterior tibialis, gastrocnemius, and soleus to

the stability of the foot and ankle, many hypoadrenic patients will complain-of

symptoms of tired feet, weak ankles, or aching calves. "

the low alt reading may indicate your liver is a bit congested.

on a daily basis the adrenals need very good amounts of vitamin c (you could try

taking 500mg three or four times a day), some good quality saturated fat (e.g.

organic butter, organic cold pressed virgin coconut oil), and some unrefined sea

salt (try taking 1/4 teaspoon in water and see if that helps your back pain).

the adrenals also need proper amounts of b vitamins and in particular b5

(panothentic acid). a daily good quality (food form) b complex might be worth

trying. you could also try a folinic acid suplement (as opposed to folic acid)

http://www.integratedhealth.com/hpdspec/folinic.html

do you have a diet high in leafy green vegetables e.g. broccoli, brussel

sprouts? for me that would be the best way to raise your folate level ...i am

not a great fan of folic acid because that is not found in nature (so the body

doesn't exactly recognise it) and it has to be converted in the liver in order

to be used effectively and your liver may already be a bit sluggish.

to help your liver (and constipation) you could try taking something like

artichoke extract and also cut back on caffeine/alcohol/sugar. another liver

friendly remedy would be to take good amounts of water throughout the day and if

you add lemon juice that will also help the adrenals. another thing to help

would be to take a glass of warm water first thing in the morning (it might make

you gag a bit at first but it will help get your system moving).

> " Transferrin saturation index " 21%

i have read that saturation needs to be a minimum of 25% and preferably 35%, so

yours is on the low side.

it's good that you've been given vit d3 ..that should help with everything.

have you had your oestrogen/progesterone levels tested ...imbalance may be the

cause of your fibroids:

http://www.natural-progesterone-advisory-network.com/can-progesterone-make-fibro\

ids-grow/

best wishes

trish

>

> Hi Sheila,

>

> I posted some test results on 6th March and kindly replied but said

she didn't know that much about test results, I wonder if you or someone else

can take a look please. I had a really bad fall last night, my second one in 6

weeks and I'm pretty stressed at the moment.

>

> Briefly I was diagnosed as hperthyroid in 1996, had a partial thyroidechtomy

in

> Jan 1998 and I've been on 100 mcgs levothyroxine pretty much ever since.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Why on earth did your GP refuse to test to see whether you have

antibodies to your thyroid. Do you have members of y our family who have a

thyroid or autoimmune disease. It is important to know whether you have

antibodies because having one autoimmune disease means you may suffer with

other autoimmune diseases either now, or will do in the future. Hashimoto's

disease can come down the family line.

What happened when you fell, did you feel dizzy or faint,

or did your legs give way? It sounds to me as if you are in great need of some

form of the active thyroid hormone T3, either synthetic or natural desiccated

thyroid extract, especially as your free T3 level is low. It should be in the

upper third of the reference range for you to feel good. This is something you

need to talk to y our GP about and ask for a referral to an endocrinologists

(preferably of y our choice) and one who prescribes some form of T3 for their

patients who are not doing well on levothyroxine only.

I have deleted those blood test results that are OK, and commented

on those that are not.

" Serum free T3 level " 3.83 pmol/L (2.60 - 5.70) - See my comment above.

" Serum Iron level " 12.1 umol/L (9.0 - 30.0)

This is too low and you need some form of elemental iron such as Ferrous

Fumerate 200mgs twice daily.

" Serum Vitamin D " 14.4 ug/L (>25) " Low " - yes, this is low. We recommend taking 4000mgs vitamin

D3 daily. It is essential this is built up. Check out www.vitamindwiki.com

for information about vitamin D.

" Serum potassium " 4.1 mmol/L (3.5 - 5.4)

- this needs watching. It would be better over 4.5. If it slips below 4.0, then

see your GP or get some Slow-K and take 3 tablets daily.

" Serum Urea level " 2.3 mmol/L (2.5 - 6.7) " Low " . Low urea levels are

not common and are not usually a cause for concern. They can be seen in severe liver disease or malnutrition but are not used to diagnose or monitor these

conditions. However, your GP may want

to investigate further

" " Serum ALT level " 6 u/L (10 - 35) " Low " . This test is to see whether you might have problems

with your liver but in such cases, ALT levels are usually high. I don't think

low levels are much to worry about, but I don't know a lot about this.

Serum ferritin " 47 ug/L (15 - 200) - Your

ferritin level should be between 90 and 130. You need some form of elemental

iron such as Ferrous Fumerate 200mgs twice daily. Do take iron at least 4 hours

away from thyroid hormone replacement. You should also take large doses of

vitamin C i.e. 3/4000mgs daily.

" Serum folate " 7.5 ug/L (3.1 - 19.9) This

is low and would benefit from 400/800 mcgs Folic Acid daily

Last night I fell down the stairs, tired, lack of concentration, usual

clumsiness. I used to be a professional dancer and I wasn't a clumsy person

until I started with a thyroid disorder, I was actually very poised! I have

been falling a lot lately, bumping into things, banging my head all the time,

really hurt myself quite badly this time. Along with the chronic lower back

pain, groin pain (yes like so many people on here I have fibroids) constipation

& foggy brain I am really really feeling physically and mentally worn out.

Yup - I would say this is definitely a need for T3, but I would

also recommend you test to see if you are suffering with adrenal fatigue. I

would highly recommend you get the 24 h our salivary adrenal profile done to

check where your levels of cortisol and DHEA are at four specific times during

the day. Go to our FILES SECTION. Scroll down to the FOLDER 'Discounts on Tests

and Supplements' and then open the Genova Diagnostics document. You can get a

discount on the tests by being a member of TPS. Follow the instructions for

ordering the test. When the results are returned, post them on the forum and we

will help with their interpretation.

Luv - Sheila