RE: Feel Really Horrible

[Guest guest]

Sounds very much as if this could be adrenal related. Go to the

FILES SECTION Carol. Open the 'Adrenal' folder and then click on 'Adrenal

Questionnaire' and answer the questions in there to see how you score. Also, whilst

you are there, do the Candida and Magnesium questionnaires too. Check through

the following associated conditions that go along with hypothyroidism and

reasons why your thyroid hormone might not be working by way of a process of

elimination. You could well find the answer here. Meanwhile, start the Nutri

Adrenal Extra again taking 2 with breakfast as you did before, but add another

tablet with your lunch, and I would also try splitting your dose of Erfa three

times daily to see if that helps. You can take Erfa sublingually, so try

putting it under your tongue and allowing it to dissolve directly into the tiny

capillaries under your tongue so it gets directly into the blood stream, and

bypasses the stomach.

The main condition responsible for stopping thyroid hormone from

working is, quite simply, a patient’s thyroid hormone dose is too low

because the doctor or consultant refuses to increase it, because the serum

thyroid function test results appear OK. Sometimes, the thyroxine dose is too

high, yet patients still don't feel well. They continue to suffer. Some

reasons for this:

1. You may be suffering with low adrenal

reserve. The production of T4, its conversion to T3, and the receptor uptake

requires a normal amount of adrenal hormones, notably, of course, cortisone.

(Excess cortisone can shut production down, however.) This is what happens if

the adrenals are not responding properly, and provision of cortisone usually

switches it on again. But sometimes it doesn’t. If the

illness has been going on for a long time, the enzyme seems to fail. This

conversion failure (inexplicably denied by many endocrinologists) means the

thyroxine builds up, unconverted. So it doesn’t work, and T4

toxicosis results. This makes the patient feel quite unwell, toxic, often with

palpitations and chest pain. If provision of adrenal support doesn’t

remedy the situation, the final solution is the use of the active thyroid

hormone, already converted, T3 - either synthetic or natural. You can check for

such a possibility by going to the FILES SECTION of our forum http://health.grouops//thyroid treatment/files/

and scroll down to the folder entitled 'Medical Questionnaires' and complete the

Adrenal one. Let us know how you score. You can also get the 24 hour salivary

adrenal profile from Genova Diagnostics. See the File entitled 'Discounts on

Tests and Supplements'. When ordering, write that Thyroid Patient Advocacy is

your medical practitioner. They will send out a kit to you and the results will

be sent direct to you. When you receive these, post the results on the forum

with the reference ranges and we will help with their interpretation.

2. Then, we have systemic candidiasis. This is

where candida albicans, yeast, which causes skin infections almost anywhere in

the body, invades the lining of the lower part of the small intestine and the

large intestine. Here, the candida sets up residence in the warmth and

the dark, and demands to be fed. Loving sugars and starches, candida can

make you suffer terrible sweet cravings. Candida can produce toxins which

can cause very many symptoms of exhaustion, headache, general illness, and

which interfere with the uptake of thyroid and adrenal treatment.

Sometimes the levels - which we usually test for - can be very high, and make

successful treatment difficult to achieve until adequately treated. As above,

do the 'Candida Questionnaire' and let us know how you score, and again, you

can be tested by Genova Diagnostics to give you diagnosis.

3. Then there is receptor resistance which

could be a culprit. Being hypothyroid for some considerable time may

mean the biochemical mechanisms which permit the binding of T3 to the

receptors, is downgraded - so the T3 won’t go in. With slow build

up of T3, with full adrenal support and adequate vitamins and minerals, the

receptors do come on line again. But this can be quite a slow process,

and care has to be taken to build the dose up gradually.

4. And then there are Food allergies. The most

common food allergy is allergy to gluten, the protein fraction of wheat. The

antibody generated by the body, by a process of molecular mimicry, cross reacts

with the thyroperoxidase enzyme, (which makes thyroxine) and shuts it

down. So allergy to bread can make you hypothyroid. There may be other

food allergies with this kind of effect, but information on these is

scanty. Certainly allergic response to certain foods can affect adrenal

function and imperil thyroid production and uptake.

5. Then we have hormone imbalances. The whole

of the endocrine system is linked; each part of it needs the other parts to be

operating normally to work properly. An example of this we have seen

already, with cortisone. But another example is the operation of sex

hormones. The imbalance that occurs at the menopause with progesterone

running down, and a relative dominance of oestrogen is a further case in point

– oestrogen dominance downgrades production, transportation and uptake of

thyroid hormones. This is why hypothyroidism may first appear at the

menopause; the symptoms ascribed to this alone, which is then treated –

often with extra oestrogen, making the whole thing worse. Deficiency in

progesterone most especially needs to be dealt with, since it reverses

oestrogen dominance, improves many menopausal symptoms like sweats and mood

swings, and reverses osteoporosis. Happily natural progesterone cream is

easily obtained: when used it has the added benefit of helping to stabilise

adrenal function.

6. Then, there is the possibility of mercury

poisoning, caused through amalgam fillings - these might need to be removed but

you need to seek a Dentist who specialises in the removal of amalgam fillings.

7. One of the main reasons why thyroid hormone

is not being utilised at the cellular level is because you might be suffering

with low levels of iron, transferring saturation%, ferritin, vitamin B12,

vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc - these have to be tested

for, and treated.

When you have been quite unwell for a long time, all these

problems have to be dealt with, and since each may affect the other, it all has

to be done very carefully.

Ask your doctor to work with you to help you find the cause. The

balancing of these variables is as much up to you as to your doctor –

which is why a check of morning, day and evening temperatures and pulse rates,

together with symptoms, good and bad, can be so helpful. To this end, check out

Dr Rind's Metabolic Metabolic Temperature Graph http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-temperature-graph

If your doctor tries to tell you that low levels of the above

mentioned nutrients have nothing to do with your low thyroid state, copy out

the following of just a few references to the research/studies that have been

done to show that there is a very big connection. Doctors are not taught about

this at medical school, so we have to help them where we can - so they, in

turn, can help their other patients.

Low iron/ferritin: Iron deficiency is shown to significantly

reduce T4 to T3 conversion, increase reverse T3 levels, and block the

thermogenic (metabolism boosting) properties of thyroid hormone (1-4). Thus,

iron deficiency, as indicated by an iron saturation below 25 or a ferritin

below 70, will result in diminished intracellular T3 levels. Additionally, T4

should not be considered adequate thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is

present (1-4)).

1. Dillman E, Gale C, Green W, et al.

Hypothermia in iron deficiency due to altered triiodithyroidine metabolism.

Regulatory, Integrative and Comparative Physiology 1980;239(5):377-R381.

2. SM, PE, Lukaski HC. In vitro

hepatic thyroid hormone deiodination in iron-deficient rats: effect of dietary

fat. Life Sci 1993;53(8):603-9.

3. Zimmermann MB, Köhrle J. The Impact of Iron

and Selenium Deficiencies on Iodine and Thyroid Metabolism: Biochemistry and

Relevance to Public Health. Thyroid 2002;12(10): 867-78.

4. Beard J, tobin B, Green W. Evidence for

Thyroid Hormone Deficiency in Iron-Deficient Anemic Rats. J. Nutr.

1989;119:772-778.

Low vitamin B12: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403

Low vitamin D3: http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/113/3/329

and http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/VitaminD.pdf

Low magnesium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC292768/pdf/jcinvest00264-0105.pdf

Low folate: http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/47/9/1738

and http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.1999.9.1163

Low copper http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htm

http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm

http://www.rjpbcs.com/pdf/2011_2(2)/68.pdf

http://ajplegacy.physiology.org/content/171/3/652.extract

Low zinc:http://www.istanbul.edu.tr/ffdbiyo/current4/07%20Iham%20AM%C4%B0R.pdf

and http://articles.webraydian.com/article1648-Role_of_Zinc_and_Copper_in_Effective_Thyroid_Function.html

NOTE: When your blood tests come back, ask your doctor for a copy and remember

to always get the reference range and post them on the forum. This is because

doctors will often tell you that there is not a problem because blood tests

have come back within the reference range. You need to know where about in the

reference range they are. We will again, help with their interpretation.

I hope this helps. Let us know if you find the culprit.

Luv - Sheila

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Wonder if anyone can offer any advice - I feel really horrible at the moment

have done for a couple of weeks. It is really hard to explain, I feel really

down and upset for what I have no idea,,, I feel angry really angry, again

don't know why I feel as I could literally throw things about - this is not

like me. I also very very very shaky inside, almost like shivering, my legs

feel weak and wobbly and unsteady. Am I on too much NDT?

I am on 3.5 grains of Erfa a day split into 2 doses, early am and 3pm - have

been on this does for well over 2 years now and 2 NAX with breakfast, that is

all I'm on. Have my needs changed? I have NOT a clue.

I purchased a new pack of Erfa in January just before ValuePharma required new

requests to be supported with a px, but I have noticed with these tablets that

they are very hard to break, not like my old ones, hope they have not done

'something' like changed an ingrediant.

Or could be adreanal related, too much / too little of the NAX. I did stop the

NAX for a couple of days recently but still felt the same.

I am also putting on weight, but not sure if that is due to my feeling so down

and eating everything I can get my hands on or somthing elso going on.

Maybe it's a case of not seeing the wood from the trees here and the answer is

staring me in the face.

Any advice would be so welcome as I need to stop feeling like this. Anyone?

Thanks Carol in the UK

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[Guest guest]

Hi Carol

Has anything changed the last couple of weeks? Any stress? or less stress?

Diet changed? If you look back longer, has it been developing for sometime but

it wasn't as obvious?

Do the symptoms get better or worse during certain times of the day? (looking

to see if it gets better or worse hours after or just after taking meds)

It sounds like it might be adrenal, but i wonder if the warmer weather has meant

you need less NDT?

I have had those feelings of wanting to (or actually) throw things about ; in

2003, I just got a whole load of plates and smashed them on the floor (oops). I

don't make a habit of doing these things. I did this when I felt very stressed.

But i don't know if that's because i had high cortisol levels, or low. Low

cortisol makes me ruminate on bad memories/people. HIgh cortisol isn't any

better but gives me diffferent symptoms, like being agitated. Both high and low

cortisol can lead to me eating loads of junk. Not much help am i

How has your weight been?

are you having any cravings for specific foods, such as carbs, fat, sugar, salt?

How long have you been on nutri?

Have you ever forgot to take NDT for a day, if so, did you feel any better?

> I purchased a new pack of Erfa in January just before ValuePharma required new

requests to be supported with a px, but I have noticed with these tablets that

they are very hard to break, not like my old ones, hope they have not done

'something' like changed an ingrediant.

perhaps the old ones were more stale and easier to break?

> I am also putting on weight, but not sure if that is due to my feeling so down

and eating everything I can get my hands on or somthing elso going on.

Hmm, if you are eating everything you can get your hands on, then that's a clue

- but it can be low cortisol, and for some people it can also be high cortisol.

But also, i've had low cortisol before and lost my appetite.

where are you putting on weight - i just wondered if it was in any one place,

since too high cortisol might mean you'd put weight on in certain places

> Any advice would be so welcome as I need to stop feeling like this. Anyone?

Is it possible for you to get tests done?

Look at these and see what fits:

http://www.hertoghe.eu/patients/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=134\

& Itemid=90 & lang=en

http://www.hertoghe.eu/patients/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=131\

& Itemid=89 & lang=en

For anger, try this see if it helps: hold your hand up like you were going to

karate chop someomeone. push down on the inside (bit facing up) of your little

finger....use 2 fingers to push down on say the last 2 joints

C

[Guest guest]

Hi Thanks for your email, I reply as follows:- any ideas? really not sure what to do first.Carol

Has anything changed the last couple of weeks? Any stress? or less stress? Diet changed? If you look back longer, has it been developing for sometime but it wasn't as obvious?Umm we have been under a lot of stress, still haven't been able to get a job, no benefits whatsoever, and I think that the internal shakiness has been coming on for some time now,,, just been getting more and more obvious. I sit at home all day, don't meet anyone, don't see anyone, my husband does all the shopping on his way home in the car, so don't even get the opportunity to go to the shops as I have no money. I feel my life is just wasting away - what else is there but to comfort eat, a biscuit here, a handful of nuts there... and the tv. With this shaky feeling I don't even want to take the dogs out, I don't have any suitable clothes and shoes to wear at the moment in this warm weather - just don't have the money, so it is not easy.

Do the symptoms get better or worse during certain times of the day? (looking to see if it gets better or worse hours after or just after taking meds) The feeling is really bad just after I get out of bed, as the day wears on it seems to lessen slightly and by the evening I don't feel too bad.

It sounds like it might be adrenal, but i wonder if the warmer weather has meant you need less NDT? Umm I was thinking that so I haven't taken my am dose today, but the shaky feeling is still there.

I have had those feelings of wanting to (or actually) throw things about ; in 2003, I just got a whole load of plates and smashed them on the floor (oops). I don't make a habit of doing these things. I did this when I felt very stressed. But i don't know if that's because i had high cortisol levels, or low. Low cortisol makes me ruminate on bad memories/people. HIgh cortisol isn't any better but gives me diffferent symptoms, like being agitated. Both high and low cortisol can lead to me eating loads of junk. Not much help am i

How has your weight been? Going up!!

are you having any cravings for specific foods, such as carbs, fat, sugar, salt? Chocolate

How long have you been on nutri? Since January 2010

Have you ever forgot to take NDT for a day, if so, did you feel any better? No I have taken my NDT every day until this morning. still shaky

> I purchased a new pack of Erfa in January just before ValuePharma required new requests to be supported with a px, but I have noticed with these tablets that they are very hard to break, not like my old ones, hope they have not done 'something' like changed an ingrediant.

perhaps the old ones were more stale and easier to break?

> I am also putting on weight, but not sure if that is due to my feeling so down and eating everything I can get my hands on or somthing elso going on.

Hmm, if you are eating everything you can get your hands on, then that's a clue - but it can be low cortisol, and for some people it can also be high cortisol. But also, i've had low cortisol before and lost my appetite.

where are you putting on weight - i just wondered if it was in any one place, since too high cortisol might mean you'd put weight on in certain places All over especially on my stomach

> Any advice would be so welcome as I need to stop feeling like this. Anyone?

Is it possible for you to get tests done? No due to the costs

Look at these and see what fits: Sometime ago I asked my doctor about Dr Hertoghe and asking him for some advice about me - the answer was a fat NO!!

http://www.hertoghe.eu/patients/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=134 & Itemid=90 & lang=en

http://www.hertoghe.eu/patients/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=131 & Itemid=89 & lang=en

For anger, try this see if it helps: hold your hand up like you were going to karate chop someomeone. push down on the inside (bit facing up) of your little finger....use 2 fingers to push down on say the last 2 joints

C

[Guest guest]

Carol,

Please can you re-review the links I sent, they are links to questionnaires,

they may help. What do they point to

I also emailed you a file, which may indicate hormone excesses

Will try to reply more later

Chris

>

>

> Hi

>

> Thanks for your email, I reply as follows:- any ideas? really not sure what to

do first.

>

> Carol

>

>

>

> Has anything changed the last couple of weeks? Any stress? or less stress?

Diet changed? If you look back longer, has it been developing for sometime but

it wasn't as obvious?Umm we have been under a lot of stress, still haven't been

able to get a job, no benefits whatsoever, and I think that the internal

shakiness has been coming on for some time now,,, just been getting more and

more obvious. I sit at home all day, don't meet anyone, don't see anyone, my

husband does all the shopping on his way home in the car, so don't even get the

opportunity to go to the shops as I have no money. I feel my life is just

wasting away - what else is there

[Guest guest]

Hi

Thanks for the links - have looked at them and can identify with so many of them

but even so what do I do about it?

>

> Look at these and see what fits:

>

>

http://www.hertoghe.eu/patients/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=134\

& Itemid=90 & lang=en

>

>

http://www.hertoghe.eu/patients/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=131\

& Itemid=89 & lang=en

>

>

> For anger, try this see if it helps: hold your hand up like you were going to

karate chop someomeone. push down on the inside (bit facing up) of your little

finger....use 2 fingers to push down on say the last 2 joints

>

> C

>

[Guest guest]

Well, this morning you weren't sure whether your problems were likely to be

adrenal or thyroid, right?

Are you any clearer now?

One step at a time.

Chris

>

> Hi

>

> Thanks for the links - have looked at them and can identify with so many of

them but even so what do I do about it?

> >

> > Look at these and see what fits:

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[Guest guest]

Och no looking at the questionaire I seem to be deficient in so so many items from DHEA to thyroid and things inbetween.. just dont know where to start.. feel really down and so frustrated. WOuld be so much easier to go to sleep and never wake up.......Carolthyroid treatment From: chrisjtaylor46@...Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:15:11 +0000Subject: Re: Feel Really Horrible

Well, this morning you weren't sure whether your problems were likely to be adrenal or thyroid, right?

Are you any clearer now?

One step at a time.

Chris

>

> Hi

>

> Thanks for the links - have looked at them and can identify with so many of them but even so what do I do about it?

> >

> > Look at these and see what fits:

> >

[Guest guest]

if you want to share the questionnaire results....?

One thing at a time, please don't get over whelmed. If you look at it the other

way, the fact that you have symptoms of other deficiencies is a good thing,

because it's fixable.

I don't mean to pry but weren't you waiting for your house to sell, is there any

chance of getting some funds from that soon?

C

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>

>

> Och no looking at the questionaire I seem to be deficient in so so many items

from DHEA to thyroid and things inbetween.. just dont know where to start.. feel

really down and so frustrated. WOuld be so much easier to go to sleep and never

wake up.......

[Guest guest]

Hi It is okay, the house is still for sale and the agent has lost the keys, we haven't had anyone view the house since last August and then at the end of Feb we had 3 enquiries only to find out that the agent had lost the keys, there is another agent who wants to show someone round on 2nd April and we now have to send another set of keys out, hopefully to be there in time. Meanwhile we are still renting and still struggleing.... it is very hard..I am not sure how I get the results onto here without manually entering each one... I can answer yes to virtually everyone one of them... and yes it is so overwhelming when you don't feel well... I can't ever remember feeling this bad..A few weeks ago I caught the flu - doc wouldn't give me my annual jab saying I was no longer on the list, I ended up with it which turned into a chest infection and had to take amoxilym (SP) and suppose I have felt bad since then... not sure if i have some sort of virus, hubby has not been that well either....I also feel quite breathless and ache everywhere - I also have tendonitis in my left wrist - started a few weeks ago and is so very painful - doc says just take the paracetamol and ibro.I really am falling to bits.Carolthyroid treatment From: chrisjtaylor46@...Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:30:31 +0000Subject: Re: Feel Really Horrible

if you want to share the questionnaire results....?

One thing at a time, please don't get over whelmed. If you look at it the other way, the fact that you have symptoms of other deficiencies is a good thing, because it's fixable.

I don't mean to pry but weren't you waiting for your house to sell, is there any chance of getting some funds from that soon?

C

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>

>

> Och no looking at the questionaire I seem to be deficient in so so many items from DHEA to thyroid and things inbetween.. just dont know where to start.. feel really down and so frustrated. WOuld be so much easier to go to sleep and never wake up.......

[Guest guest]

Hi It is okay, the house is still for sale and the agent has lost the keys, we haven't had anyone view the house since last August and then at the end of Feb we had 3 enquiries only to find out that the agent had lost the keys, there is another agent who wants to show someone round on 2nd April and we now have to send another set of keys out, hopefully to be there in time. Meanwhile we are still renting and still struggleing.... it is very hard..I am not sure how I get the results onto here without manually entering each one... I can answer yes to virtually everyone one of them... and yes it is so overwhelming when you don't feel well... I can't ever remember feeling this bad..A few weeks ago I caught the flu - doc wouldn't give me my annual jab saying I was no longer on the list, I ended up with it which turned into a chest infection and had to take amoxilym (SP) and suppose I have felt bad since then... not sure if i have some sort of virus, hubby has not been that well either....I also feel quite breathless and ache everywhere - I also have tendonitis in my left wrist - started a few weeks ago and is so very painful - doc says just take the paracetamol and ibro.I really am falling to bits.Carolthyroid treatment From: chrisjtaylor46@...Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:30:31 +0000Subject: Re: Feel Really Horrible

if you want to share the questionnaire results....?

One thing at a time, please don't get over whelmed. If you look at it the other way, the fact that you have symptoms of other deficiencies is a good thing, because it's fixable.

I don't mean to pry but weren't you waiting for your house to sell, is there any chance of getting some funds from that soon?

C

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>

>

> Och no looking at the questionaire I seem to be deficient in so so many items from DHEA to thyroid and things inbetween.. just dont know where to start.. feel really down and so frustrated. WOuld be so much easier to go to sleep and never wake up.......

[Guest guest]

Carol

do you think the flu was the trigger to make you a lot worse - you said you'd

not been right for a couple of weeks this morning? as you know, the flu can be

devastating and takes it out of adrenals, as does every day stress.

you can do an online version of the questionnaire, here - you need to press edit

though. you should be able to copy and paste from tab 2 of the spreadsheet

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gwHZUj66nFYJ:blog.saravanan\

..org/%3Fp%3D40+hertoghe+questionnaire & cd=1 & hl=en & ct=clnk & gl=uk

> I am not sure how I get the results onto here without manually entering each

one... I can answer yes to virtually everyone one of them... and yes it is so

overwhelming when you don't feel well... I can't ever remember feeling this

bad..

if it stresses you out more, please don't do it (spreadsheet).

> I also feel quite breathless and ache everywhere - I also have tendonitis in

my left wrist - started a few weeks ago and is so very painful - doc says just

take the paracetamol and ibro.

has that come on since the flu?

> I really am falling to bits.

It sounds like the flu might have bought out and exacerbated your physical

problems.

have you tried upping the nutri dose?

do you do any energy work like TFT or EFT? Sometimes these can help with how

we feel (I did a TFT course recently, off topic, i know, and i appreciate fully

that if we have hormonal issues no amount of tapping will correct that, but it

might help us feel slightly less bad)

Do you think that when you start to recover from the flu that you will begin to

feel a bit better? Even 'just' chest infections and colds have really affected

me before, let alone the flu. THese illnesses can be devastating, especially

when we are already weak and not on top form. So what I wonder is, with a bit

of time and rest, do you think you will recover a little and get back to how you

were feeling before? (I appreciate that may not have been perfect, but it sounds

better than you are now).

I would perhaps consider seeing what else you can do for your adrenals?

Best regards

chris

[Guest guest]

Carol

do you think the flu was the trigger to make you a lot worse - you said you'd not been right for a couple of weeks this morning? as you know, the flu can be devastating and takes it out of adrenals, as does every day stress. Yes, I do think it was the trigger - as up to then I felt quite good really,,, although I was putting weight on

you can do an online version of the questionnaire, here - you need to press edit though. you should be able to copy and paste from tab 2 of the spreadsheet - will have a go thanks

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gwHZUj66nFYJ:blog.saravanan.org/%3Fp%3D40+hertoghe+questionnaire & cd=1 & hl=en & ct=clnk & gl=uk

if it stresses you out more, please don't do it (spreadsheet).

> I also feel quite breathless and ache everywhere - I also have tendonitis in my left wrist - started a few weeks ago and is so very painful - doc says just take the paracetamol and ibro.

has that come on since the flu? Yes I think , so together with the shakiness, the wrist problem I had before the flu

> I really am falling to bits.

It sounds like the flu might have bought out and exacerbated your physical problems.

have you tried upping the nutri dose? Yes today on the advice of Sheila this morning I took 1 x NAX at lunchtime. I have not taken my NDT this afternnon either - I do take it sublingually, I still feel shaky though although not as much as I did this morning.

do you do any energy work like TFT or EFT? Sometimes these can help with how we feel (I did a TFT course recently, off topic, i know, and i appreciate fully that if we have hormonal issues no amount of tapping will correct that, but it might help us feel slightly less bad) what are these?

Do you think that when you start to recover from the flu that you will begin to feel a bit better? Even 'just' chest infections and colds have really affected me before, let alone the flu. THese illnesses can be devastating, especially when we are already weak and not on top form. So what I wonder is, with a bit of time and rest, do you think you will recover a little and get back to how you were feeling before? (I appreciate that may not have been perfect, but it sounds better than you are now). I am hoping so.

I would perhaps consider seeing what else you can do for your adrenals?

Best regards Thanks

chris

[Guest guest]

> do you do any energy work like TFT or EFT? Sometimes these can help with how

we feel (I did a TFT course recently, off topic, i know, and i appreciate fully

that if we have hormonal issues no amount of tapping will correct that, but it

might help us feel slightly less bad)

>>what are these?

>

they are kind of tapping therapies that are supposed to help because they work

on acupressure points, when it works it can be quite effective.....google EFT or

TFT....there's lots of stuff online and youtube videos...